Angry White People

[kool maudit]

Jeff just posted this on Facebook. What does it remind you of?

Soros. and his stage-managed fake "revolutions" -- all of them proclaiming "democracy" but leading straight to fascism; all of them proclaiming "freedom" but leading straight to enslavement; all of them proclaiming "peace" but leading straight to destruction and violence; all of them proclaiming "economic justice" but leading straight to their own people's dispossession by the same gang of transnational predators.

Over and over. Using the "youth" as a front. I guess young people lack the knowledge, the wisdom and the experience to see these professionally-engineered manipulations for what they are. So they keep falling for the same tricks, the same slogans, the same logos, in one country after another, never stopping to learn from those who came before.

Once we make some moderation changes, Alice, you'll be singing a different tune. We need to get rid of this decadent vacillation, this effete transnationalism, and return to our hallowed founder's goal.

There are bad elements in here and they are moving things in a bad direction.

It's time to make a stand.

We need to MAKE RIGOROUS INTUITION GREAT AGAIN.

#Antifa4eva

[jakell]

Stepping out of tongue-in-cheek mode for a while, it seems that several RI regulars are managing to find ways around this nonsense independently of my evil influence (AD take note), so it seems the forum is healthy after all.

Has anyone noticed how the rather newish idea of duty has crept into meme posters such as the one above, ie shades of service, authority, even militarism? (assuming the poster is serious)
Next it will be obligation.

Of course, some folks already feel a sort of obligation in this area and realise that certain responses are required on the production of certain images/ideas. We have seen this here when those who decline to respond 'properly', in a timely fashion, and with the right intensity are denounced.

[AlicetheKurious]

Once we makes some moderation changes, Alice, you'll be singing a different tune.

Thank you, kool maudit, for giving me my first laugh out loud of the day..

[Luther Blissett]

I'm just saying that the people-powered anarcho-punk flavor of anti-fascism has always been a part of this place, so I've been finding the recent backlash against Crass-style aesthetics (in addition to the writing) here kinda funny. If you want to talk about the mindset of the founder of this website, you have an answer right there. His focus for months has been the proto-fascistic pageantry of Trump and the quasi-paramilitaristic violence of his followers.

I don't care the least about purity and would prefer a discourse on both the Casual American Caste System and Angry White People, but I'm sensing a lot more thought policing against anti-fascism than the inverse.

We have a weird dystopian Trumpism that is being manufactured in the United States right now and the sheetrock is going up fast. You're going to go visit your sister in Bloomington for the weekend and when you get back, there's going to be a Trump Casino on your block. I'm a pacifist but I'd like to think I never would have stood in the way of dissidents at Little Bighorn or the Warsaw Ghetto. Perhaps I would have joined them. Who's to say?

[jakell]

I'm just saying that the people-powered anarcho-punk flavor of anti-fascism has always been a part of this place, so I've been finding the recent backlash against Crass-style aesthetics (in addition to the writing) here kinda funny. If you want to talk about the mindset of the founder of this website, you have an answer right there. His focus for months has been the proto-fascistic pageantry of Trump and the quasi-paramilitaristic violence of his followers.

I don't care the least about purity and would prefer a discourse on both the Casual American Caste System and Angry White People, but I'm sensing a lot more thought policing against anti-fascism than the inverse.

We have a weird dystopian Trumpism that is being manufactured in the United States right now and the sheetrock is going up fast. You're going to go visit your sister in Bloomington for the weekend and when you get back, there's going to be a Trump Casino on your block. I'm a pacifist but I'd like to think I never would have stood in the way of dissidents at Little Bighorn or the Warsaw Ghetto. Perhaps I would have joined them. Who's to say?

Staying on that 'thought policing against anti-fascism', this can hardly be the case if it is, as you describe, a recent backlash. 'Thought policing' describes a well entrenched and complex system.
'Backlash' in itself seems to cut it though

Regarding how this place used to be, and how Jeff might think, both of these seem pretty abstract to me and don't seem to be looking towards the here and now.(there is a lot of this here though)

[American Dream]

Obviously we should not want in anyway to improve the moderation around here. After the compelling proofs provided here that Jeff Wells is actually a pawn of jewish bankers like George Soros, we can therefore infer that a cabal of anti-fascist immigrants who are not white, are anarcho-communist types, "zionists", etc. are the real problem around here.

The Far Right is not a social problem in anyway, was never misguided, and promotes love not hate.

Jeff Wells in fact, may be a masonic/zionist/cultural marxist illuminatus, which means therefore that he works for them.

Everything is ok around here. Those who say they are your friends really are your friends and they are never wrong. They are spiritual people who are beyond right and left.

Drink deep from the chalice and you will be smart and strong, too.

Just trust them, and everything will be ok.

[Luther Blissett]

I'm just saying that the people-powered anarcho-punk flavor of anti-fascism has always been a part of this place, so I've been finding the recent backlash against Crass-style aesthetics (in addition to the writing) here kinda funny. If you want to talk about the mindset of the founder of this website, you have an answer right there. His focus for months has been the proto-fascistic pageantry of Trump and the quasi-paramilitaristic violence of his followers.

I don't care the least about purity and would prefer a discourse on both the Casual American Caste System and Angry White People, but I'm sensing a lot more thought policing against anti-fascism than the inverse.

We have a weird dystopian Trumpism that is being manufactured in the United States right now and the sheetrock is going up fast. You're going to go visit your sister in Bloomington for the weekend and when you get back, there's going to be a Trump Casino on your block. I'm a pacifist but I'd like to think I never would have stood in the way of dissidents at Little Bighorn or the Warsaw Ghetto. Perhaps I would have joined them. Who's to say?

Staying on that 'thought policing against anti-fascism', this can hardly be the case if it is, as you describe, a recent backlash. 'Thought policing' describes a well entrenched and complex system.
'Backlash' in itself seems to cut it though

Regarding how this place used to be, and how Jeff might think, both of these seem pretty abstract to me and don't seem to be looking towards the here and now.(there is a lot of this here though)

Fair enough. I will take your advice and only respond to what is being said. Though I do worry that the backlash is slowly turning into thought policing.

I would like to see way more support here for a culture of resistance against very real, documented assaults happening in towns across America and a swelling tide of racist, violent rhetoric. We have to stand with and support our Muslim, Latino, and black neighbors. I see precious few people in the States today even supporting a new White Rose-style movement.

[jakell]

I'm just saying that the people-powered anarcho-punk flavor of anti-fascism has always been a part of this place, so I've been finding the recent backlash against Crass-style aesthetics (in addition to the writing) here kinda funny. If you want to talk about the mindset of the founder of this website, you have an answer right there. His focus for months has been the proto-fascistic pageantry of Trump and the quasi-paramilitaristic violence of his followers.

I don't care the least about purity and would prefer a discourse on both the Casual American Caste System and Angry White People, but I'm sensing a lot more thought policing against anti-fascism than the inverse.

We have a weird dystopian Trumpism that is being manufactured in the United States right now and the sheetrock is going up fast. You're going to go visit your sister in Bloomington for the weekend and when you get back, there's going to be a Trump Casino on your block. I'm a pacifist but I'd like to think I never would have stood in the way of dissidents at Little Bighorn or the Warsaw Ghetto. Perhaps I would have joined them. Who's to say?

Staying on that 'thought policing against anti-fascism', this can hardly be the case if it is, as you describe, a recent backlash. 'Thought policing' describes a well entrenched and complex system.
'Backlash' in itself seems to cut it though

Regarding how this place used to be, and how Jeff might think, both of these seem pretty abstract to me and don't seem to be looking towards the here and now.(there is a lot of this here though)

Fair enough. I will take your advice and only respond to what is being said. Though I do worry that the backlash is slowly turning into thought policing.

I would like to see way more support here for a culture of resistance against very real, documented assaults happening in towns across America and a swelling tide of racist, violent rhetoric. We have to stand with and support our Muslim, Latino, and black neighbors. I see precious few people in the States today even supporting a new White Rose-style movement.

You're right to be worried, a backlash can always mature into something more authoritarian, but it does take time. I see it as a swing of the pendulum from one extreme to the other and something that humans have not managed to find a way around yet.

In the late Eighties, in Britain we had what some folks called the 'looney left'. the Left weren't in power at the time so could afford to do some blue-sky thinking, nevertheless, the stuff they were coming out with made them pretty much unelectable and only really a Tony Blair (unfortunately) could get them back into power.
I have mused that some of the stuff they were coming out with regarding political correctness was an (over)reaction to the extreme antics of the National Front a decade before, ie a swing of the pendulum.

[backtoiam]

Alice wrote:

Soros. and his stage-managed fake "revolutions" -- all of them proclaiming "democracy" but leading straight to fascism; all of them proclaiming "freedom" but leading straight to enslavement; all of them proclaiming "peace" but leading straight to destruction and violence; all of them proclaiming "economic justice" but leading straight to their own people's dispossession by the same gang of transnational predators.

Over and over. Using the "youth" as a front. I guess young people lack the knowledge, the wisdom and the experience to see these professionally-engineered manipulations for what they are. So they keep falling for the same tricks, the same slogans, the same logos, in one country after another, never stopping to learn from those who came before.

Luther wrote:

I would like to see way more support here for a culture of resistance against very real, documented assaults happening in towns across America and a swelling tide of racist, violent rhetoric.

Here are the results of a Soros driven utopia exactly as it was planned. A bunch of young confused idiots at a Trump rally of different races screaming at each other. All involved are too emotionally out of control and too stupid to say anything intelligent. Chaos, confusion, anger, ignorance, emotional instability, and a sincere desire to stab themselves in the back with their own ignorance.

Black guy and white guy screaming at each other making no progress toward peace at all. White boy and girl standing behind the black guy leering, jeering, attempting to earn their White Guilt Merit Badges like the dupes they are. (unless they are paid plants) This video couldn't be a more perfect example of the intended outcome.

[Wombaticus Rex]

Here are the results of a Soros driven utopia exactly as it was planned.

Consider that your attributions of omnipotence are essentially unpaid labor on behalf of Soros.

Recognize that the most effective operators in the game are not "creating" movements but manipulating existing trends.

Contemplate how many other billionaire boogeymen you could use as your short-hand for God.

[backtoiam]

He is by far not the only player and he hardly stands alone. I realize that. But in this particular situation he is knee deep in Black Lives Matter who so far have attacked Bernie, Trump, etc...it worked out real well. I realize he isn't alone though and he is not the only instigator.

[Luther Blissett]

Soros doesn't fund the Philly Coalition for Real Justice (the local Black Lives Matter core organizing group). It's almost all volunteer / donations with a small grant from Bread and Roses that couldn't cover much of anything.

To imply that Soros funds it all is to deny the agency and especially the anger of the people organizing. After Trayvon, Freddie Gray, and Eric Garner I witnessed firsthand the grassroots planning of those rallies, demos, and protests.

[backtoiam]

I didn't say he funds it alllllll...His money went through a chain of foundations, organizations, etc...but it got there. I think he may have stopped funding them now, i'm not sure. But his seed money was in there. I don't remember the chain and i'm not going to look it all up again but its not hard to find if you are interested.

[Luther Blissett]

It didn't come to black lives matter organizers in this city - 5th largest in the U.S. and with the 2nd largest downtown population. Have you ever planned a protest? How much were you paid, who handed you the briefcase, how did they reach out to you, did you pay your fellow protestors?

[backtoiam]

I'm not getting knee deep in this. That was my two cents for now.