Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby Belligerent Savant » Thu May 05, 2016 12:31 pm

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Luther Blissett » Thu May 05, 2016 10:26 am wrote:I do want a catchy new party name though. I'm part of a team made up of folks from a bunch of different organizations that is planning, what I suppose will be, a massive general assembly outside the DNC to see about quickly founding a new unified left party. In the information age, I think things can happen very quickly.

Unity Party? New Progressive Party? Solidarity Party? Intersectional Party? Justice Party? Turnip Party? Pirate Party?



VIRAL Party
VITAL Party
The Vital Viral Party
UPROOT Party
Metamorph Party
99% Party

(All quite lame to various degrees.)
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby Nordic » Thu May 05, 2016 6:38 pm

American Party.

It includes everybody and will run on a theme of getting rid of corruption.
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby Belligerent Savant » Thu May 05, 2016 7:14 pm

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If only 'everyone' was onboard with rooting out corruption (of course most will say they are, but those that thrive amid corruption will remain. They won't vanish, unfortunately... that's why I suggest the "Fuck the Party System" Party... or better yet, "Fuck the System!" Party. Once this party wins and takes over, it'll replace the current broken system with a NEW platform underpinned with ideals that benefit the majority... until such time, inevitably, when corruption manages to infiltrate and infest the new system, and we return again to the familiar laments. No worries however: this is all very much a pipe dream -- current system ain't goin' nowhere. Unless, of course, TRUMP or Clinton inspire so much vitriol during their reign of terror that it manages to UNIFY the PEOPLE to scream in unison: "NO MORE!", followed by a nationwide revolt.
In which case: Go Trump! Go Clinton!)
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby 82_28 » Thu May 05, 2016 8:42 pm

norton ash » Thu May 05, 2016 6:51 am wrote:
82_28 » Thu May 05, 2016 1:32 am wrote:Maybe ANDP? Take after the only Canadian party in which I align with.

American National Democratic Party. Or why not completely be the same party Canada and America combined. Get rid of the borders in North America completely. We'd start from there. In truth there really are no borders.


Or just use the Canadian name 'New Democratic Party'. And I think I'd like to keep the borders, thanks. Do you really think Canadians or Mexicans would like to live under FULL-spectrum American dominance?


Well seeing that I live in the states and close to Canada, I consider Canada to be a place that is my neighbor (neighbour) but also traveling (travelling) back and forth needlessly prohibitive. The Costco in Bellingham, WA supposedly is the busiest in the chain, or was, or something. Borders are old and stupid. The cultures will remain intact. Most every fave band of mine is Canadian or British. We are already assimilated. Look at the NHL. NBA. The only thing that won't translate well are the CFL's rules to the NFL. Anyway. . .
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby Nordic » Thu May 05, 2016 9:49 pm

Don't worry, the US has been very busy trying to assimilate Canada into the US. Just look at the Harper administration. That seriously seemed to have been orchestrated by the neocon US government.
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Fri May 06, 2016 8:36 am

Belligerent Savant » Thu May 05, 2016 6:14 pm wrote:.
If only 'everyone' was onboard with rooting out corruption


Indeed, if only everyone could even understand what that sentence means.

That fact the majority of any human aggregate are gonna be morons haunts every project for the improvement of our species.

My sense of partisans on both "sides" of America's kayfabe is that they want to be right and they want to win. Actually knowing things is not a priority, nor, certainly, is fixing their country in any meaningful sense -- they just know things need to happen and they happen when you win by being right.
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby MacCruiskeen » Fri May 06, 2016 9:14 am

Wombaticus Rex » Fri May 06, 2016 7:36 am wrote:
That fact the majority of any human aggregate are gonna be morons haunts every project for the improvement of our species.


As Gwendolen said to Cecily:

It is obvious that our social spheres have been widely different.


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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby Belligerent Savant » Fri May 06, 2016 9:32 am

Wombaticus Rex » Fri May 06, 2016 7:36 am wrote:My sense of partisans on both "sides" of America's kayfabe is that they want to be right and they want to win. Actually knowing things is not a priority, nor, certainly, is fixing their country in any meaningful sense -- they just know things need to happen and they happen when you win by being right.


Succinct/astute -- a compact summary for the human condition generally, at least with respect to the modern-day lay (and not so lay) American.
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon May 09, 2016 12:36 pm

from starroute


When I've posted about reddit stuff before, a number of people have responded that they find the site too confusing. I agree it can be hard to navigate around in it -- but bookmarking one subreddit to check regularly, or subscribing if you have a reddit account, is simple and informative.

The Bern the Convention 2016 subreddit was formed just three days ago and is already close to 5000 subscribers. It's dedicated, as you might suspect, to planning by Bernie supporters for the Democratic National Convention. Affinity groups are being set up. There are plans for protests both in Philly and elsewhere. A variety of graphics are being made available.

There's also a Facebook group and a website for the protest march, but the reddit group seems to be where the serious strategizing is happening.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BernTheConvention
https://www.facebook.com/events/1262141703800004/
http://www.dctodnc.org/
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby JackRiddler » Mon May 09, 2016 12:58 pm

Wombaticus Rex » Fri May 06, 2016 7:36 am wrote:
Belligerent Savant » Thu May 05, 2016 6:14 pm wrote:.
If only 'everyone' was onboard with rooting out corruption


Indeed, if only everyone could even understand what that sentence means.


Because "corruption" is a meaningless way of putting it, of course. It's apolitical. It assumes that some lack of virtue is the problem, and if only everyone did their job things would be good. In fact, we have a system that for the most part is problematic because of the way it functions as intended. I suppose we can describe the legalized bribery of campaign financing, lobbying and the revolving door, and regulatory capture as "corruption." Or we could do the same for the media system owned by six corporations and financed by advertising, or all the other cartel arrangements that govern economy and politics. Except all of these things are (mostly) legal and predictable expressions of how the system of political economy is designed and has developed. The idea of corruption is used to criminalize small-potatoes and evade the systemic, or even at best creates some Nixon myth about how the malady is due to the personal rot of individuals.

That fact the majority of any human aggregate are gonna be morons haunts every project for the improvement of our species.


Oh my god, dude. This is just not so. Not my experience. People are mostly smart within their contexts. They tend to be very good at mastering the tasks of their lives. They tend not to be very intellectually courageous and to prefer paradigms for the world that they don't need to revise. All that. But morons is really harsh, and even with me as this board's leading misanthropist it makes me worry about you.
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon May 09, 2016 1:13 pm

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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Mon May 09, 2016 3:02 pm

JackRiddler » Mon May 09, 2016 11:58 am wrote:People are mostly smart within their contexts.


And their context is mostly "consumer" -- if anything, I'm being generous.

JackRiddler » Mon May 09, 2016 11:58 am wrote:...even with me as this board's leading misanthropist it makes me worry about you.


Please take this as a compliment: you're not even in the top ten here for that particular category. I don't think I am, either. Nurture that hope, bud.
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby JackRiddler » Mon May 09, 2016 10:48 pm

Okay, I'll start the Moderate Misanthropists Party, thanks!
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby Luther Blissett » Tue May 10, 2016 1:27 pm

Bad source but looks like real info - or at least a collection of real things that were said on twitter.

http://usuncut.com/politics/bernie-sand ... alifornia/

Despite the mainstream media’s repeated assertions that the Bernie Sanders movement is now a thing of the past, enthusiasm from his base only seems to be growing, based on the overwhelming number of people who flocked to his rally in Sacramento this Monday night.

Dave ‎@fastlife3o5
This is what 21,000+ looks like at a Bernie Sanders rally in Sacramento #BernieInSacramento #FeelTheBern #bernie2016
1:36 AM - 10 May 2016


Supporters lined up for over four hours to see Senator Sanders outside Bonney Field — some of them even longer. The following video [at link] by Our Voice Media shows the massive scope of the line, as the videographers take several minutes to drive from one end of the line to the other.

Somewhere between 15,000 and 20,000 people were estimated to have been packed inside the stadium, with more than 10,000 more continuing to wait outside.


The hashtag #BernieInSacramento quickly exploded onto the top trends on Twitter, and yet the mainstream media once again chose to ignore the massive influx of support and unprecedented turnout. The only outlet that covered the rally was local Sacramento NBC affiliate KCRA-3.

Below is the only picture attached to the article, obviously taken before the rally as people were still entering the field:
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Compare the above photo to these photos during the actual rally taken by supporters and uploaded to social media:
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby Nordic » Tue May 10, 2016 4:38 pm

We need to lose the term "mainstream media". There's nothing mainstream about them now.
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