Open Letter From Dylan Farrow on Abuse by Woody Allan

[JackRiddler]

My tip on Captain America: Civil War is to just start an hour into it and then it's great fun. You'll know you have missed nothing whatsoever, the (continuing) exposition will fill you in (as if you need it). From Spiderman forward it's really good! After the airport battle, you might skip another 20 minutes to the last bit, or let them run, up to you.

(Uh, I mean of course by being late in sneaking into the theater. Heh. And then a popcorn break. Yeah, a popcorn break. That's the ticket.)

[Cordelia]

That is an extremely sexist thing to say. Seriously. And I'm about as far from a PC Nazi as you can get.

But using the 'c' word isn't?

Seriously. And I'm also about as far from a PC Nazi as you can get.

[brekin]

My tip on Captain America: Civil War is to just start an hour into it and then it's great fun. You'll know you have missed nothing whatsoever, the (continuing) exposition will fill you in (as if you need it). From Spiderman forward it's really good! After the airport battle, you might skip another 20 minutes to the last bit, or let them run, up to you.
(Uh, I mean of course by being late in sneaking into the theater. Heh. And then a popcorn break. Yeah, a popcorn break. That's the ticket.)

Agreed, or alternatively see the first 30 minutes and then the last 30 minutes. But really, probably spending the time instead doing a crossword, planks, or huffing glue would probably be more constructive. There's at least 1 hour's worth of "We need to have a serious conversation about X" that are basically juvenile break up/get back together convo's interlaced between the big Angry Birds action scenes. On the RI front the film's "should we have oversight for uber-elite kill squads?" dilemma doesn't even feel like lazy propaganda anymore, but desperate reaching to set up some bigger frame. It was just boring, and this from the guy who liked Superman vs. Batman. Captain America vs. Iron Man, just wasn't a Clinton vs. Trump covert allegory that was sophisticated as Superman vs. Batman was. Ha, ha just joking, seeing if you was slipping. You know psychotic fascist billionaire vs. tarnished throwback all american hero and all.

[Agent Orange Cooper]

I liked when Ant Man got really big.

[brekin]

I liked when Ant Man got really big.

Yeah, I find him the most interesting character super power wise, but I'm not completely thrilled with Paul Rudd. Seems like he's doing a version of Ben Stiller. Was thinking maybe Owen Wilson, Jack Black, Zach Braff or honestly even Adam Sandler would be more interesting pick. Okay maybe not Adam Sandler. Just kind of a younger Tom Hanks-ish physical comedy guy whose painful, self effacing/inadequacy jokes would be pulled off a little better. Maybe even Mark Wahlberg. Hard to find someone who seems to be able to pull off the funny nebbishness, junior league super hero bit while also having done a stint in prison.

[guruilla]

Returning to topic, this is something posted in comments section at my blog in 2014:

20 years ago when Woody Allen first was accused of Pedophilia by his long-time partner Mia Farrow, I coincidentally ran into Allen’s chauffeur at a diner on the Upper West Side of NYC.. I told him I was a therapist and he unloaded on me his fears “How could someone do that?” and his offers from both “sides” to be their witness.. I wrote it up and tried to get it published at “The Realist” but was rejected. When the story was refreshed recently: his erstwhile adopted daughter, who has changed her name” stood by her original childhood experience and wrote/ published publicly how disgusted she was seeing the man who obviously ruined , to some degree, the life of her family; and disrupted her own life – having people call her a liar etc. And run her mother through a gauntlet of accusations…

So I found the article I had written and realized I , myself, had skirted the issue in my original writing.. The chauffeur had definitely told me that Allen had a sick obsession with his adopted daughter since she was 3.. And that he had driven Allen across town every morning for years so he could get to the child’s house in time to spend private time with her… And that the chauffeur’s opinion was that he was “in love” with the little girl in an unhealthy way… The chauffeur, himself, didn’t want to face what logic would lead one to believe.

Among the public commentary on the re-opening of this case I found a very revealing first – person narrative by a man who had been sexually abused by his father when he was a child.:

“Woody Allen Is Not a Monster. He Is a Person. Like My Father.”
http://gawker.com/woody-allen-is-not-a- ... 1518291644

The author tackles the issue of how normal his father appeared … And, in reality, probably was?

I found it extremely humorous that people [who hadn’t looked into the case, nor studied it] fell for the bold lies of Woody Allen published prominently in the New York Times…Wherein he named the mother to be the demonic witchy unstable vengeful receptacle of his scape – goating.

According to the chauffeur, a conversation I recorded almost 20 years ago, Allen had started “working on” Soon Yi when she was 14; so it wasn’t a case of “instant falling in love” when she was 19.

It was a metaphor, for me, of so much going on , on many different levels and throughout many different examples / stories. It is a “killing joke” representative of mass perversion…

Recently I was ordered a routine colonoscopy… Through that experience I discovered there is a drug which can be administered to make you lose all short term memory of what occurred in the hour before the drug is administered..

.Much as vets get onto ketamine, I’m wondering how many anesthesiologists make “good use” of this drug..

Some of my twit pic commentary on the Allen / Dylan public controversy.
Oh, the two new adopted daughters strongly resemble the original abuse victims, Soon Yi and “Dylan”

http://twitpic.com/dv0w6m
http://twitpic.com/dux3gn
http://www.celebitchy.com/234399/woody_ ... e_hotel-9/
http://twitpic.com/dv3jpc

I learned from this: people are very attached to their memories… For many New Yorkers, especially Upper West Side, “intellectual” well – to – do ; Woody Allen is a major part of their identity “taste” “what I like” and of their family memories.. That becomes very hard to reconcile: when an un-kind truth interfers with one’s actual memories / what one holds dear.

Reading this story of a young person’s experience reminded me of the importance of memories: “Don’t mess with my memories” Memories are a part of identity.. … She describes her inner conflict on reading the statements released by “Dylan”

http://www.refinery29.com/2014/01/60636 ... edium=post

Apparently “Hollywood” is all on “Woody’s side” which belies the notion there is a public “clean up” to make people feel better on the subject..

https://auticulture.wordpress.com/2014/ ... mment-3543

[RocketMan]

Wow. This is really quite unsettling. Both children are palpably uncomfortable, with the other sort of pushing him away and the other having her arms defensively crossed. And the expression on Allen's face... brrrr.

[brekin]

brekin wrote:

And if Allen isn't into the domestic scene why did he adopt two girls with Soon-Yi?

justdrew wrote:
maybe because his wife wanted children? Maybe his feelings on the subject changed?

Perhaps, but why would he suddenly want to be the family man at over 60 years of age? Doesn't that seem a bit late to do a complete turn about?
I can't guess as to Soon-Yi's motivations for wanting to have children with someone who would doubtfully see them graduate college (Allen is 78 right now).
Allen motivations though, I try not and think about.

Yeah, we posted that creepy photo back in 2014 also when there was still a lot of convincing to be done regarding Allen. I think Cosby's subsequent immolation has changed the scene a little bit, but not too much. Allen still seems somehow to have his work in rotation, get new work, attract stars, etc. Their charges are different, of course, but image conscious wise, Allen only seems to be a possible, maybe, tricky issue for ones career. Seems the collaborators right now are more irked that they have to deal with an explanation at all.

[Cordelia]

"20 years ago when Woody Allen first was accused of Pedophilia by his long-time partner Mia Farrow, I coincidentally ran into Allen’s chauffeur at a diner on the Upper West Side of NYC.. I told him I was a therapist and he unloaded on me his fears “How could someone do that?” and his offers from both “sides” to be their witness.. I wrote it up and tried to get it published at “The Realist” but was rejected. When the story was refreshed recently: his erstwhile adopted daughter, who has changed her name” stood by her original childhood experience and wrote/ published publicly how disgusted she was seeing the man who obviously ruined , to some degree, the life of her family; and disrupted her own life – having people call her a liar etc. And run her mother through a gauntlet of accusations…

So I found the article I had written and realized I , myself, had skirted the issue in my original writing.. The chauffeur had definitely told me that Allen had a sick obsession with his adopted daughter since she was 3.. And that he had driven Allen across town every morning for years so he could get to the child’s house in time to spend private time with her… And that the chauffeur’s opinion was that he was “in love” with the little girl in an unhealthy way… The chauffeur, himself, didn’t want to face what logic would lead one to believe.

Among the public commentary on the re-opening of this case I found a very revealing first – person narrative by a man who had been sexually abused by his father when he was a child.:

“Woody Allen Is Not a Monster. He Is a Person. Like My Father.”
http://gawker.com/woody-allen-is-not-a- ... 1518291644

The author tackles the issue of how normal his father appeared … And, in reality, probably was?

I found it extremely humorous that people [who hadn’t looked into the case, nor studied it] fell for the bold lies of Woody Allen published prominently in the New York Times…Wherein he named the mother to be the demonic witchy unstable vengeful receptacle of his scape – goating.

According to the chauffeur, a conversation I recorded almost 20 years ago Allen had started “working on” Soon Yi when she was 14; so it wasn’t a case of “instant falling in love” when she was 19.........."


'Coincidentally' ran into Allen's chauffeur, told him he was a therapist (whereupon the chauffeur unloaded his fears), recorded the conversation, wrote it up and tried to publish it? He/she sounds more like an opportunist than a therapist.

(Shame that the two innocent girls in the photo have to endure their images being published again and again over the years.......)

[Nordic]

That is an extremely sexist thing to say. Seriously. And I'm about as far from a PC Nazi as you can get.

But using the 'c' word isn't?

Seriously. And I'm also about as far from a PC Nazi as you can get.

Hm who did I happen to use the C word on, and in what context? Context is everything, really. I really don't mind calling someone a bimbo if they fit the description.

[brekin]

That is an extremely sexist thing to say. Seriously. And I'm about as far from a PC Nazi as you can get.

But using the 'c' word isn't?

Seriously. And I'm also about as far from a PC Nazi as you can get.

Hm who did I happen to use the C word on, and in what context? Context is everything, really. I really don't mind calling someone a bimbo if they fit the description.

Context:

Brekin check out her performances in "Her" (just her voice) or in Joseph Gordon-Levitt's "Don Jon". You'll see she's actually a very good actress. If you see her on talk shows her personality is very different than the type of characters you're talking about. I don't know her personally and I think her sponsorship of Sodastream was abhorrent but I'm pretty sure she's half Jewish so maybe there's family stuff at work. And who knows maybe she's a cunt although in my line of work I probably would have heard the rumors about that if in fact she were.

That being said (and I know you don't care one bit) I think you're backtracking and your original "assessment" displayed a shameful level of sexism.

[Cordelia]

^^^
You're a hoot; another day of non-stop rain and I needed a good stiff drink

[Cordelia]

Kate Winslet to be cast in Woody Allen's next film

"Woody Allen may have found himself once again at the center of controversy at the Cannes film festival in May – following repeated allegations, firmly denied by the film-maker, that he abused his daughter Dylan Farrow – but that hasn’t stopped Hollywood’s top players from jumping at the chance to work with the legendary director.

Kate Winslet is the latest to join his roster, according to Variety. She’s said to be in final negotiations to star in Allen’s next film, which will shoot this fall."

more......
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/j ... n-new-film

Ah, Kate............

[Agent Orange Cooper]

Did this get posted here recently? Worth reading, no matter your opinion of Allen (and mine is certainly not high).

https://ronanfarrowletter.wordpress.com/

May 30, 2016
After penning his much-read 2014 Daily Beast piece about the Woody Allen allegations, filmmaker and Allen biographer Robert Weide thought he was through with the subject. But after a recent essay by Ronan Farrow in The Hollywood Reporter, encouraging the press to keep asking Allen “the hard questions,” Weide felt it was once again time to respond.

[Cordelia]

^^
It's very clever composition-wise, beginning with a quote by Mia Farrow defending Roman Polanski's reputation, and ending with a quote by Polanski's victim. Two famed & valuable directors needing vindication while slamming other participants. Weide's a Hollywood player himself and as a producer of 'Curb Your Enthusiasm', (which once featured an episode on pedophilia with sick slap-stick humor) I doubt his own moral compass should be much admired.

This isn't the first aggressive essay Weide's written in defense of Allen; he wrote another in early 2014. A link to a critique of the earlier article:
http://www.slate.com/articles/life/cult ... d_her.html

Don’t Listen to Woody Allen’s Biggest Defender

Why are so many journalists lauding Robert Weide’s sleazy, passive-aggressive attack on Mia Farrow and her daughter?

"It’s not surprising that Woody Allen’s No. 1 fanboy continues to go to the mat for his hero. It is surprising that so many respected journalists continue to line up behind Robert Weide, insisting that his voice should be at least as loud as Dylan Farrow’s. That’s exactly what Weide wants: When their voices are equal, they cancel each other out, and there’s nothing left to hear."