Orlando / Pulse Mass Shooting Thread

[MacCruiskeen]

Their neighbour for the last six years, a retired deputy sheriff, speaks out:

Neighbor, Tony Schneider, a retired deputy sheriff told Daily Mail Online that Seddique and Shahla Mateen are ‘the nicest people in the world.’

‘They are very Americanized, he said. ‘Just very good neighbors. I have known them for six years and have never had any problems with them.

‘My heart goes out to them — of course if they were involved they can rot in hell, but I otherwise I feel so sorry for them.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ateen.html

The KINDNESS Animal Hospital Flyer of Utter Evil

[Burnt Hill]

Look! He even gave his kid FruitLoops! Greatest Dad ever!!

A few of the clubbers describe him as a white man, implying no mask, unless they were id'ing his hands, and not mentioning a mask, which exists in the infinity of possibilities.
Anyone that cares to can find this information, so no link.

[MacCruiskeen]

Look! He even gave his kid FruitLoops! Greatest Dad ever!! [snicker, snicker, snicker]

A few of the clubbers describe him as a white man, implying no mask, unless they were id'ing his hands, and not mentioning a mask, which exists in the infinity of possibilities.
Anyone that cares to can find this information, so no link.

Oh bullshit. You are completely shameless. I'm calling your bluff. Post your "evidence" in the new thread if you haven't just completely invented it. I created that thread so that people would stop stretching this thread with their worthless, hallowed "beliefs".

[Burnt Hill]

What new thread?
Tone it down a bit and I am happy to interact with you!
We should be on the same team here even if we don't always agree.

[MacCruiskeen]

What new thread?

ffs

[Burnt Hill]

Oh the horror!
*Mac, you know perfectly well you edited your post to include that link while I was composing mine.
Have you found any info where the clubbers state it was a white man? Or are you stuck on your confirmation bias?

[Karmamatterz]

SonicG wrote:

These photos seem to make it look like he was a "good" father...

A couple of photos absolutely do NOT prove he was a good father. They prove nothing other than people were smiling in a photo. Unless you were there and or took the photo you have no idea why they are smiling.

A fridge full of photos could lend one to think maybe there is some consistency to the alleged shooter being a good loving father. Photos don't always represent the totality of someone's life. Not even in person visits do. Take for example a very old and good friend of mine that visited recently for my daughter's high school graduation. He moved to the other side of the country 14 years ago and has had very little interaction with my kids since. Has had seen me interact with my children only minimally in those 14 years. But after spending 15 minutes at the grad party proclaimed that I was a terrific loving and successful father. Nice compliment, but for all he knows I could be a crazy psychopathic nutjob with borderline personality disorder or a raging whatever. Ask my kids or if I'm a good loving father and depending on their mood or if they've recently been in trouble they may say I suck or that I'm the world's greatest dad. Things are situation and people are fickle. Now if you collected up all the photo albums I have from birth to present of my kids and great moments in their lives you would get a much better sense if I was a good father and or engaged in their lives deeply. The more evidence the better, but one or two photos don't mean diddly squat. For all we know the child might have had bruises all over his body that clothing covers. Or he in fact might have been a great dad. In my opinion, I would question whether you're a "great father" if you get involved in shenanigans in which your life could be placed at risk which would result in your child being raised fatherless.

Same for one or two comments from a jilted ex-lover. They may easily lie and say someone was abusive out of spite or whatever reasons when it's not even true. All it takes is one late alimony or child support payment for an ex to make wild claims about so and so being a deadbeat dad. So many people on this board now are also saying Mateen was not so nice to the women in his life. But they are saying he was a good loving father. What a load of crap. So inconsistent. I would suggest that if you want to claim he was abusive to his ex or most current wife then show us the protection orders, police reports and court judgement that prove he was abusive and or not so nice.

Sorta hypocritical to go all emotional out of control in the comments here claiming people are fascists or whatever, that others are dumb and blind, then turn around and use the same media sources to say things like Mateen was a loving father or abusive. Where is the puke emoticon? Skype has a nice animated one. This board could use one too.

[Karmamatterz]

Still waiting for MacCruiskeen to provide proof about his claim that Mateen was bisexual......

[divideandconquer]

JUNE 20, 2016
After Orlando, Democrats and Republicans Clamor for Expanded Police State

Does anyone here believe that this was entirely the work of one random guy...that the state/intelligence/global powers had absolutely nothing to do with this horror show? In other words, does anyone believe the official story? Believe that the mainstream media/law enforcement/politicians are doing their very best to find and report the truth?

Because we can argue the details all day long--they want the public to get lost in a myriad of contradictory and conflicting details, speculation, and endless theories, without the aid of any hard evidence...not even a searchable soc sec death index-- but if everyone can agree that Orlando is to one degree or another, a false flag, just as are all of these events that transform into media circuses, if everyone can agree that the only people who benefit are the powers that be, then that's a step in the right direction.

Whether zero people died or 50, whether it's one shooter or 20...the result is always the same: instilling fear in the public; division along racial, gender, religious, sexual identity, ect., lines; distraction from whatever; loss of freedoms; and most importantly, justification and demand for the continuous, never ending build up of a police state...the increase in the power of a few over the many...

And please define proof. Because how can anyone provide evidence that's sufficient to establish a thing as true on a forum of anonymous posters? I think it's impossible.

[Karmamatterz]

On edit: Nicely put Divideandconquer.

Whether zero people died or 50, whether it's one shooter or 20...the result is always the same: instilling fear in the public; division along racial, gender, religious, sexual identity, ect., lines; distraction from whatever; loss of freedoms; and most importantly, justification and demand for the continuous, never ending build up of a police state...the increase in the power of a few over the many...

FB, was posting when I should have been working and quoting and using my iPad on this site is a pain in the ass. I don't think it's all a bunch of false flag stuff, doesn't need to be. Events can happen on their own or with persuasion, suggestions or elements brought together is a stew of weirdness we don't know about. Or they just let things happen. We bomb a country or squeeze them with economic power. Months or years later the retaliation happens. Allah is depicted in cartoons, later some Islamists target non-muslims and kill them. It's all madness and I agree that in the mix of madness any zealot whether Muslim, Christian, Hindu etc....are going to have extremists that kill others.

[elfismiles]

Has this link been posted:

News > World
FBI Tried to Lure Orlando Shooter into a Terror Plot in 2013
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/F ... -0022.html

[Burnt Hill]

Has this link been posted:

News > World
FBI Tried to Lure Orlando Shooter into a Terror Plot in 2013
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/F ... -0022.html

Yes elfismiles, project willow posted it earlier.
It may be the key to the massacre.
Thanks to both of you for posting it.

[FourthBase]

Nicely put Divideandconquer. Thank you for the post.

Wait, really? Did you and I read the same divideandconquer post?

but if everyone can agree that Orlando is to one degree or another, a false flag, just as are all of these events that transform into media circuses, if everyone can agree that the only people who benefit are the powers that be, then that's a step in the right direction.

"Please if everyone could just kindly take a step in the right direction by agreeing to the premises of my nihilist groupthink, that would be so appreciated, thank you." You're basically trying to semi-brainwash us, but hey, at least you're being super-nice about it. Still, though: GTFO.

[FourthBase]

I'm surprised nobody's posting about the transcript. Actually, on second thought, nope, not surprised. That opening part compicates things a little for some people here. So which direction will the uber-tinfoilers take, which angle? What, dear nihilists, are we supposed to automatically think about the transcript and its content and what was redacted? Is it a real written transcript from which important things have been censored from and/or conversely which is actually missing things that we've been told are there? Or is it a fake written transcript, invented out of thin air, in which case when they release some audio however soon or long from now, it will have featured an actor portraying Mateen?

[stickdog99]

Not a TRANSCRIPT!

Words become things.

Here's the thing. I just woke up. I haven't even read the FUCKING "transcript" yet.

But here is my prediction. Either the transcript is a transcript of somebody other than Mateen calling 911 or else Mateen was a player in a shadow government plot who got played or both.

It's the same story every time. If you are even marginally Muslim, the feds seemingly have all the time and the money in world to set you up. If you suffer from some sort of mental illness, you go to the front of the list.

If you can't fathom this by now, your shirt is too brown.