7/7 Dallas Shooting

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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby Iamwhomiam » Sat Jul 09, 2016 3:54 pm

I'm not referring to the other ricochets sparking on the sidewalk to the left and to the right of where a bullet disintegrates upon impacting the railing. The others are clearly distant whereas this clearly, from my frame by frame examination, emanates from the near side of the railing. Follow the sparks to their source.

Grizzly, I think it's safe to assume he was a cop from one of the DPD cars alongside where he fell.

The bbc footage Mac offered was shot from the second floor of the parking garage. Heard being said by someone was that someone was shooting from the garage: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36745862

Stefano posted an "eyewitness" who described the shooter:
http://www.krem.com/news/nation/witness-accounts-detail-the-horror-of-the-dallas-attack/267704568
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby 0_0 » Sat Jul 09, 2016 3:59 pm

Also note how the videomaker zooms away from the fire exchange on streetlevel to get a look of the surrounding high buildings. Now why would he do that? Police snipers shooting at whitepants guy? if so, they weren't very effective.
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby Luther Blissett » Sat Jul 09, 2016 4:07 pm

Listening to NPR this morning and afternoon on my way to and from a workshop, they reiterated multiple times that Dallas pigs originally believed there were two shooters because of how fast and skilled Johnson was, tying this to his "tactics journal" uncovered from his apartment which contained a lot of stick-and-move practices. They really had the National Propaganda Radio efforts out in full force with this point, utilizing their strategy of repetition. "Cops originally believed there were two shooters, originally believed there were two shooters, because of how quickly he moved around, because of how fast he was, and when they saw his journal, that all made sense, the journal described these tactics."
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby 0_0 » Sat Jul 09, 2016 4:19 pm

The other three suspects who were earlier reported to not be cooperating with the police are now supposedly set free. I remember reading that earlier today, but I can't find a source anymore, cos all mentions of multiple suspects are being scrapped it seems.
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby Novem5er » Sat Jul 09, 2016 4:45 pm

There may have been more than one shooter. I just don't think the video with the sparks shows that. I could see that it looks like rounds are hitting the railing, but to me the line up exactly with the shooter on the ground and his movements. More than likely the video phone is picking up the bright light of the sparks and is amplifying them, making them look larger and closer than they were in life.

Also, the photos of people looking or pointing up have to be taken with a grain of salt. There were people on balconies and in windows to watch the protest or because it's simply a busy place. The sound of gunfire is echoing between the buildings and people are confused. I'm not saying there wasn't another shooter, I'm just saying that all this internet evidence is pretty weak, as it usually is :(
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby Iamwhomiam » Sat Jul 09, 2016 4:50 pm

The Latest: Castile's Family Condemns Dallas Shootings

4:54 min Video & article w/timeline:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/latest-dallas-police-man-photo-turned-40426075
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby Iamwhomiam » Sat Jul 09, 2016 5:01 pm

I see it much the same, Novem5er. That there was confusion, and the photos represent but a moment in time.

I very carefully watched the video and agree with you about the two ricochets hitting the sidewalk, but I can't let go of another impacting on the near side of the railing. That's what my eyes recognize in the video as well as the difference in the diffusion of sparks of those impacting the sidewalk and that impacting the railing.

I'll have to check the location on G-earth to see what buildings lie behind the man who took the video.

One would think that in Dallas the police would have their own snipers nested atop buildings during such a demonstration.
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby Novem5er » Sat Jul 09, 2016 5:42 pm

I'll admit that one of the spark impacts near the railing look as if they are much closer and larger than the others. Still, I think every one of the impacts lines up with the shooters shots and the pattern of his movement and aiming. The fact that the impact appears to be coming from "our" side of the railing, might be the over-glow of the cellphone camera picking up the bright light of the sparks. I'm not an expert on these things, but I do know that some light distortion is common with these cameras.

BUT I hold open the possibility. If there was someone shooting through the balcony, would it have been another officer aiming at the shooter? Or another shooter aiming at the officer? Either is possible.
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby Morty » Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:02 pm

0_0 wrote:The other three suspects who were earlier reported to not be cooperating with the police are now supposedly set free. I remember reading that earlier today, but I can't find a source anymore, cos all mentions of multiple suspects are being scrapped it seems.


Maybe "suspects not cooperating with police" is cop-speak for "suspects kept refusing to admit they were involved in the shootings" and they kept refusing to admit involvement until the cops let them go (and the cops let them go because they obviously weren't involved in the attacks)?
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby zangtang » Sat Jul 09, 2016 8:30 pm

- or the cops let them go because.....'this is way above your payband'..............

(i have zero even circumstantial/anecdotal evidence for that)
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby Burnt Hill » Sat Jul 09, 2016 8:45 pm

zangtang » Sat Jul 09, 2016 8:30 pm wrote:- or the cops let them go because.....'this is way above your payband'..............

(i have zero even circumstantial/anecdotal evidence for that)


If that were the case I don't think we would have gotten to the "refusing to cooperate" part.
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby 82_28 » Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:03 pm

I might not be seeing the forest for the trees here, but was this protest in direct response of the previous 24 hours? Or was it something long planned, protest-wise (not shooting-wise)? If it was a planned protest I could see how the shooter(s) would have been in place. Yet if not, it would seem to me all of the last three days of events were connected in some fashion.

Reason I think this is that I had a "friend" (hahahaha just thinking about it) that I could get him to do anything I told him to. He came from a very authoritarian family but always wanted to impress and do what he was told. One time I told him to scale a skyscraper and was egging him on to do so. I actually filmed it but sadly is lost to time. But he seriously tried to climb it feeling peer pressure. There's other ones about that kid. But he became a stalker to some of our female friends and then he had no more friends because he was disowned. I think all this police shit is of a similar mindset.
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby zangtang » Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:15 pm

I just lost 8 lines of good shit on the 3 uncooperative 'witnesses' - i was trying to refer to 'dallas' (63) - that may becompletely inappropriate


- save & capture EVERYTHING on the.......3 (unkempt?) tramps?)


- I'm an entire ocean away, - & i know 'things looking hot an heavy' -

- but i'm suspecting 'the hidden hand'

Who is orchestrating BLM ? (and by that i fully understand that this could well have been entirely 'organic')
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby 82_28 » Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:23 pm

You know, zangtang, I don't know either. Remember, Sanders' first speech as a candidate was here in Seattle Boi land (I keed, just giving you shit) but the BLM girls totally disrupted everything. Sanders just stepped back and let them go. I have precisely no idea what BLM is up to other than I know I'll never join no group. But we have a new BLM coming out of the gates. Blue Lives Matter.

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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby Burnt Hill » Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:35 pm

I thought BLMs money was Move On/Soros?
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