28 pages alleged Saudi ties to 9/11 to be released Friday

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Postby thatsmystory » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:36 pm

I understand no answers from Saudis. What about answers from US officials? Their conduct is gross. They hide behind secrecy as they advocate for a permanent police state. Are any of these officials ashamed ?
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Re: 28 pages alleged Saudi ties to 9/11 to be released Frida

Postby Luther Blissett » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:50 pm

seemslikeadream » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:31 pm wrote:
…A telephone number found in the phone book of al-Qaeda operative Abu Zubaida, who was captured in Pakistan in March 2002, was for an Aspen, Colo., corporation that managed the "affairs of the Colorado residence of the Saudi Ambassador Bandar," the documents show.

Osama Bassnan, who the documents identify as a financial supporter of two of the 9/11 hijackers in San Diego, received money from Bandar, and Bassnan's wife also got money from Bandar's wife.

"One at least one occasion," the documents show, "Bassnan received a check directly from Prince Bandar's account. According to the FBI, on May 14, 1998, Bassnan cashed a check from Bandar in the amount of $15,000. Bassnan's wife also received at least one check directly from Bandar."


Fuck, though. Really?!
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Postby Luther Blissett » Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:54 pm

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Re: 28 pages alleged Saudi ties to 9/11 to be released Frida

Postby Nordic » Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:34 pm

And now we have a coup in Turkey the same day the 28 pages come out.

I wonder what's gonna happen tomorrow?
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Postby backtoiam » Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:56 pm

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I understand no answers from Saudis. What about answers from US officials? Their conduct is gross. They hide behind secrecy as they advocate for a permanent police state. Are any of these officials ashamed ?


Lately I have been reading that the U.S. has become the 29th country that has agreed to 18 pledges that will allow the U.N. to use force against american citizens to (sic) protect them in cases of armed conflict and along with that it might involve federalizing the police force. Supposedly this originated with (AP) American Press back in May, I think May 11th but I was unable to verify AP as the source but I didn't try hard at all. Its all over the web though. Considering what the Republican Convention might look like it leaves me wondering if preparations are being made for a shit festival.
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Re: 28 pages alleged Saudi ties to 9/11 to be released Frida

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:23 pm

Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: 28 pages alleged Saudi ties to 9/11 to be released Frida

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:52 pm

Five Revelations From the 9/11 Joint Inquiry’s 28 Pages

By Kevin Ryan
Global Research, July 16, 2016
Dig Within
Region: Middle East & North Africa, USA
Theme: 9/11 & 'War on Terrorism', Intelligence
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The missing 28 pages from the U.S. Congressional Joint Inquiry into intelligence activities related to 911 were finally released to the public. These pages do not reveal a lot of new information but what is new strengthens lines of investigation that need to be followed-up. Here are five examples.

1. The 28 pages say a lot about two men—Omar al-Bayoumi and Osama Bassnan. The pages hint at the idea that Al-Bayoumi and Bassnan, who sponsored some of the alleged hijackers in the U.S., were Saudi intelligence agents or assets. Although this is not new, the pages also mention that both of them worked closely with the Saudi Arabian Cultural Mission (SACM). That should bring investigators back to the WTC security company Stratesec, which held its annual meetings in SACM offices.

2. The SACM was part of the Saudi Embassy run by then-ambassador Prince Bandar. The released pages do a lot of hinting about Bandar’s funding of Al-Bayoumi and Bassnan’s activities in the United States. What is perhaps a revelation is that the men’s wives received money from Bandar’s wife but also that Bassnan received $15,000 directly from Bandar’s account.

3. The pages also reveal that, “several Saudi Naval officers were in contact with the September 11th hijackers.” A related fact that needs more scrutiny is that Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC), which profited greatly from the 9/11 crimes, had spent over twenty years building and training the Saudi Navy. At the time of 9/11, SAIC was run by Dick Cheney’s protégé Duane Andrews, who was the most knowledgeable person regarding the vulnerabilities of the information and communications networks that failed that day.

4. The released pages also make a lot of insinuations about Abu Zubaydah’s “phonebook.” Zubaydah was the alleged al Qaeda leader captured just a few months after the Inquiry’s report was released. The 28 pages repeatedly mention that his phonebook had several numbers that could be “linked” to U.S. phone numbers. Readers will likely fail to realize that in 2009 the U.S. government retracted its claims that Zubaydah had any association to al Qaeda. That the 9/11 Commission Report depended heavily on Zubaydah’s torture testimony is a fact that was quickly forgotten by Commission and intelligence agency leaders.

5. The Inquiry’s report was built largely on information provided by the FBI and the CIA. The 28 pages show this clearly. What people might fail to question is why the Inquiry would go about investigating intelligence agencies simply by reporting information provided by those agencies. That contradiction was amplified when the Inquiry’s leaders allowed the FBI to intimidate their own panel members by investigating them while they were investigating the FBI. The reasons for these contradictions are probably related to the fact that leaders of the FBI and the CIA are legitimate suspects in the 9/11 crimes.

In the end, the release of the 28 pages reinforces some information that was already available but does nothing to correct the propaganda that the Joint Inquiry produced. The public can learn from it, of course, but that requires looking beyond the propaganda.

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Re: 28 pages alleged Saudi ties to 9/11 to be released Frida

Postby backtoiam » Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:10 pm

I don't know anything about this site and most of the names on here are not familiar to me so I have no idea how accurate this is. Maybe somebody smarter than me can make sense of it. If you click the "home" button it goes to facebook but I don't have a facebook page so I can't sign in and look at.

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Postby JackRiddler » Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:23 pm

Media coverage is a pavlovian shit-show. Flat out wrong headlines parroting each other, written by people who didn't read the chapter, let alone the JICI report, or have any idea of how to contextualize any of it.

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Postby PufPuf93 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:57 pm

On September 12, 2001 there was an air space closure in the USA.

The USA domestic air space was such a strict closure that federal air tankers and helicopters could not be used on a forest wildfire that started on September 10 and nearly burned the village closest to my house located on north coast California 3000 miles away from the 9 / 11 terrorist attacks.

On September 12 one exception was that chartered air craft were allowed to gather Saudis, specifically Saudi royalty and other prominent Saudis and their families, from around the USA to be transported out of country.

The closed air space exception for prominent and royal Saudis is to me a strong indicator that the some high level Saudis and high level Americans knew that there were connection(s) to be found between Saudi Arabia and the 9 / 11 attacks.

I tend to think that there were at the highest level rogue Americans and Saudis involved in 9 / 11 and this concept has been blatant and all but admitted for the last 15 years.

Yet Afghanistan was immediately blamed for 9 / 11 and the USA went to immediate war footing.

Then Iraq was also blamed for 9 /11 and used by high level Americans, the same individuals that made the decision to allow the 9/12/01 evacuation of prominent Saudis, to justify the attack and destruction of Iraq. The same high level American officials then dragged their feet on, underfunded , and poorly staffed the 9 / 11 Commission. edit to add: and wrote a novel.
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Re: 28 pages alleged Saudi ties to 9/11 to be released Frida

Postby Nordic » Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:04 pm

It's just amazing how almost nobody is talking about this.

It got buried. It was a Friday afternoon news dump to start with. Then all the other conveniently timed SHTF.

I'm hoping after the dust clears people may turn their attention back to it.
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Postby Novem5er » Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:08 pm

My hope was that the American public would read the report and start asking the big question "Why are we still supporting Saudi Arabia?" and that it would enter the political dialogue and eventually lead to breaking US-Saudi ties. But is that going to happen, though?

And honestly, if it WERE, to happen, which of the presidential candidates would be more liked to push for that or make it happen?

I think I just puked in my mouth some.
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Re: 28 pages alleged Saudi ties to 9/11 to be released Frida

Postby thatsmystory » Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:39 am

US officials are getting a complete pass for their conduct by hiding behind the Saudis. Before we re-investigate (what a joke to hear this now) Saudi links to 9/11 it would be nice to know what US intelligence agents were doing. We have never gotten a single honest explanation for US intelligence conduct.They have lied about all of it. I watched several of the mainstream documentaries. In a fairly recent documentary they ask FBI agents what happened in regard to the al-Hazmi/al-Mihdhar withholding. They give the usual angry I don't know what the CIA was doing spiel. Yet Michael Scheuer was interviewed for the same documentary. Why didn't they get him to explain it since he was the chief of the unit? That is atrocious journalism.Instead of misleading the viewer they should have put a disclaimer at the end:

"Scheuer wouldn't agree to take part in the documentary unless we agreed he would not have to answer any questions about the bizarre conduct of Alec Station. We are referring to the manner in which Scheuer and everyone at Alec Station claim they were fixated on Bin Laden and al Qaeda while everyone else in the government was a dumbass who didn't get it. They made it known to the world after 9/11 that they were on point but simply couldn't get the rest of the government to respond. What the Alec Station personnel leave out and have never explained is the massive contradiction between warning of an al Qaeda attack while obstructing al Qaeda investigations in the very same time frame."
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Re: 28 pages alleged Saudi ties to 9/11 to be released Frida

Postby backtoiam » Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:57 am

Forgive me if I am wrong and give credit to the wrong person but I think is was Sounder that said, "soros is not the cause, soros is only a symptom, a small fish in a big pond."

Saud is the same thing. Saud is only as important as it thinks it is. It has been 'allowed' to do what it does. At any moment the chain be pulled on the plug in the drain and Saud will go up in smoke as easy as striking a match. They do what they are told. My impression of this 28 pages is that the Saud has been told something similar to this:

"We saved you for last. The reason we did is because you helped us take all your neighbors goodies. Guess what? Now that we have taken all your neighbors goodies we want yours. We know you probably saw this coming and now the time is come. We don't want you to be the middleman anymore because your monetary cut is too big and WE want it. We intend to take control of your oil fields and now we will make all the money. We will allow you to be billionaires as long as you cooperate. You can live and die in billionaire luxury but if you resist we will bomb your ass into the stone age just like your neighbors. Its up to you"
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Re: 28 pages alleged Saudi ties to 9/11 to be released Frida

Postby 8bitagent » Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:05 pm

You know were in crazy wtf times when the Saudi 9/11 28 pages are finally released and it's the least interesting news headline of the day.
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