7/7 Dallas Shooting

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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Jul 19, 2016 2:18 pm

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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:50 pm

Dogwhistle:

Authorities also found a journal where Johnson wrote about his shooting tactics and rap music.

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/he ... window.ece


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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby DrEvil » Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:44 pm

Blue » Sun Jul 17, 2016 10:56 pm wrote:
I was trying to see it from the cop's point of view. For them, this was a guy who just killed several of their colleagues/friends. Regardless of what actually happened that's what they thought at the time, and acted accordingly.


That's a strange statement - the part about regardless of what actually happened that's what they thought at the time...how do you know what they thought?

And as far as a cop's POV. They are fucking trained as part of their job in how to deal with situations where fellow cops are down and how to respond in a professional manner. Not emotional like regular civilians would respond. But I guess the Blue Wall of Brotherhood can't be criticized for acting like their lives matter MORE.


Do I really have to spell it out for you?

Clearly they thought he was the suspect, or they wouldn't have spent hours negotiating and then blowing him up with C4. What do you think they were thinking? That they were talking to the janitor?
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby DrEvil » Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:53 pm



I think it's a modern dance interpretation of his rhetoric.
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby Blue » Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:41 am

No. I don't think they think they were talking to the janitor. Just because they knew the victims personally does not give them the right to be judge, jury and executioner. Supposedly in the Land of the Free.

I don't see a brick wall.


Damage shown from blast that stopped police-killing sniper

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/article90636102.html

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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby MacCruiskeen » Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:59 am

Chief David O.Brown interviewed on CNN on July 10, three days after Micah Johnson was killed (so no "fog of war" excuses, please):

Brown said he faced a difficult choice -- with no way to send officers after the gunman without further jeopardizing their lives.

"He was secreted behind a brick corner," he said,

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/10/polit ... vid-brown/


Two full weeks after the attack, they finally unveil this legendary "brick corner":

Picture 9 here allegedly shows the exact spot where he was killed (note: no bricks):

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/he ... g-them.ece

And of all the many, many places he could have chosen in that large college complex, he just happened to hang about and be blown up in a corridor directly outside the server room, which means (so we're told, by the FBI) that no surveillance camera footage survived (?), so no one can check a single word they tell us about the shooter's identity and movements.
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby Burnt Hill » Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:32 am

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This looks like it would qualify as a "brick" wall.
Perhaps even a corner.
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby MacCruiskeen » Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:37 am

^^What's the caption to that photo, Burnt Hill? What do they say it shows, exactly?

See picture 9 of 9 here (can't embed it, for some reason):

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/he ... g-them.ece

Caption:

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This is the spot where the gunman was cornered by police in a second story hallway at El Centro College in downtown Dallas, July 19, 2016. On their other side of this wall is a server room, left. The police detonated a bomb, killing the gunman and causing all the structural damage. (Tom Fox/The Dallas Morning News)
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby Grizzly » Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:45 am

This looks like it would qualify as a "brick" wall.
Perhaps even a corner.


No it doesn't, at least from growing up in the South, my vernacular and background knows the difference between brick and concrete walls. Especially if you have construction background. And it's impossible to tell by those pictures if it's a corner or not.
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby Burnt Hill » Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:49 am

Grizzly » Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:45 am wrote:
This looks like it would qualify as a "brick" wall.
Perhaps even a corner.


No it doesn't, at least from growing up in the South, my vernacular and background knows the difference between brick and concrete walls. Especially if you have construction background. And it's impossible to tell by those pictures if it's a corner or not.


I do have some construction experience in which cinder block and brick are interchangeable, that's what it look like to me, definitive? No.
* That vertical crack suggests brick.
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby MacCruiskeen » Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:51 am

MacCruiskeen » Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:37 am wrote: ^^What's the caption to that photo, Burnt Hill? What do they say it shows, exactly?

See picture 9 of 9 here (can't embed it, for some reason):

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/he ... g-them.ece

Caption:

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This is the spot where the gunman was cornered by police in a second story hallway at El Centro College in downtown Dallas, July 19, 2016. On their other side of this wall is a server room, left. The police detonated a bomb, killing the gunman and causing all the structural damage. (Tom Fox/The Dallas Morning News)



Asking Burnt Hill politely again for the caption to that photo he posted, if any caption exists.
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby divideandconquer » Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:08 am

I haven't had time to read through, so sorry if this was addressed already, but I remember hearing that Dallas police chief David Brown discouraged his officers from wearing body armor. I don't remember where I originally heard it but after a quick search of the Internet I pulled up this link. http://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/op ... 12122.html

"In a morning radio call to KSKY/660 AM host Mark Davis, Patrick even questioned Dallas Police Chief David Brown’s choice for officers to wear their more friendly summer shirtsleeves instead of menacing body armor."


I understand the reason why he wanted his officers to appear friendly (a bullet proof vest isn't all that noticeable, is it?) but I find it ironic that the supposed sniper was dressed in body armor while the police were not.
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby Burnt Hill » Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:10 am

It doesn't say anything that rules out it being the brick corner he was behind.
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby Blue » Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:13 am

And it would be odd to remove the demolished "bricks" from the scene before photographs were taken yet there is clearly drywall insulation, etc. laying there. Guess they could have been really bloody bricks.
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby MacCruiskeen » Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:16 am

Burnt Hill » Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:10 am wrote:It doesn't say anything that rules out it being the brick corner he was behind.


So you just refuse to post the caption, Burnt Hill, despite being asked politely twice? Although you know exactly what that caption states?

What a fine honest fellow you are.

Here, I went looking for it myself, because I had to, because you're the kinda guy you are:

Bomb blast damage and gunshot damage is seen in a hallway at El Centro College, downtown campus, Tuesday, July 19, 2016, in Dallas. According to officials, gunman Micah Johnson was killed at the end of this hallway by a bomb blast after exchanging gunshots with police officers. Tony Gutierrez AP Photo

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