Fox Network Dollhouse Show - Hip MKULTRA

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Postby beeline » Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:04 pm

Thanks LilyPat. I think I must have missed the a few episodes at the end of last season.
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Postby beeline » Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:04 pm

Thanks LilyPat. I think I must have missed the a few episodes at the end of last season.
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Postby LilyPatToo » Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:14 pm

[Warning: link below is potentially very triggering for trauma survivors]

You can at least watch the great Omega episode on the network site. It actually shows psychotic multiple-personalitied Alpha "switching" uncontrollably between personalities--something that's not exactly common on MSM. And I loved the music used in this episode, too--especially the old Roy Orbison song.

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Postby beeline » Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:55 pm

Posted on Thu, Nov. 12, 2009


Wave bye to 'Dollhouse'...

Joss Whedon's "Dollhouse," pulled from Fox's schedule during November sweeps, was officially canceled yesterday, says the Hollywood Reporter.

It's a move unlikely to surprise anyone who reads Nielsen ratings, but bound to trigger flashbacks in fans of Whedon's last Fox show, "Firefly."

One bright note: The show, says the Reporter, is expected to produce all 13 episodes ordered, and Fox plans to air the remaining shows starting Dec. 4.

http://www.philly.com/philly/entertainment/television/20091112_Wave_bye_to__Dollhouse____.html
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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:16 pm

So Dollhouse is off the air and "Hank" never even got started...

...I guess CIA/Disney KWH doesn't have the budget they used to?
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Postby LilyPatToo » Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:48 pm

Damn. Not only am I really going to miss this show, but I needed it to stay on the air until I'm ready to pitch the romantic suspense novel I'm halfway through writing. It's infinitely easier (in a 5-10 minute pitch session) to sum up a complex and largely unknown or misunderstood subject like mind control when you can rattle off the names of a couple of current TV shows that have a similar premise. Most editors just aren't "fringe" enough to be knowledgeable about conspiracy topics, unfortunately...at least not the ones I know personally.

So I'm bummed in multiple ways today :? Anyone who's writing mind control-related genre fiction still has the Bourne movies, of course (and a 4th one on the way), but His Own Worst Enemy bit the dust even faster than Dollhouse did.

And I really, really wanted Joss Whedon to have a huge new Buffy-level hit, too. Firefly completely won my heart and I hoped that Serenity would finally reach enough viewers to either resurrect the series or perhaps begin a movie franchise, but, alas... :( And, while there was a strong mind control element in the storyline, I find that almost no one watched either the series or the movie, so as far as raising public consciousness or helping with a pitch session, forget it.

I didn't find Dollhouse anywhere near Firefly in overall quality, but it kept a subject that's very important to me, personally, out in front of the public. I mourn its passing.

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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:10 pm

LilyPatToo wrote:I didn't find Dollhouse anywhere near Firefly in overall quality,


That 2nd season was especially bad.
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Postby LilyPatToo » Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:06 pm

Yeah, and we had to sit through those initial 8 (or was it 9?) episodes in season 1 before Whedon was allowed by the network to do what he'd wanted to do right from the beginning. So the shift to really original, interesting stuff came late in the first season and was so cool that I could hardly wait for season 2...and we all know how that turned out :roll:

What a shame. Wonder if anyone will ever again be brave enough to float an idea for another mind control themed series after these cancellations? How I'd love to see one set in the actual MKULTRA era :shock:

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Postby beeline » Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:48 pm

I am glad they are going to air this last season at least. They've managed to really screw up my Friday nights nights with the termination of Dollhouse and Terminator: SCC.

Back to good, old, reliable alcohol I suppose.
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Postby LilyPatToo » Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:09 pm

beeline wrote:I am glad they are going to air this last season at least. They've managed to really screw up my Friday nights nights with the termination of Dollhouse and Terminator: SCC.

Back to good, old, reliable alcohol I suppose.


Well, it won't help with Friday nights if you lack a DVR/TiVo, but if you do have one (or an old VCR), you could record Fringe and watch it whenever you need a mind-control-related media fix. While it lacks the risque sexiness of Dollhouse, it is talking openly about MKULTRA this season and has main characters who are survivors of the mind control programs--both perps and victims. And one of the perps is played by Leonard Nimoy :D

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Postby LilyPatToo » Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:11 pm

Anyone interested in mind control on TV might want to tune in tonight for a 6-hour 3-night remake of The Prisoner in miniseries form on AMC at 8PM/(7 Central). (Apologies for putting it into this thread, but I couldn't find one on general mind control program associated media)

And here's an interview with Sir Ian McKellen.

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Re: Fox Network Dollhouse Show - Hip MKULTRA

Postby MinM » Fri Sep 27, 2013 1:00 am

Having just finished the two seasons on dvd .. Dollhouse in some ways foreshadowed a couple of events.

1) The whole Jerry Sandusky - Penn State pedophile ring story.
2) Aaron Alexis...
Stop-Loss (Dollhouse)
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Boyd and Echo go back to the Dollhouse and look to see who has been into their files. They find a section of Rossum called Scytheon, which is a military wing. Scytheon is running a project called "Mind Whisper". The project uses active architecture so they can make a neural radio. Boyd informs Adelle, who tells Boyd to leave it alone. Topher believes this technology will make all the minds in "Mind Whisper" become one. If Anthony is not rescued before he becomes a part of the group, he will be lost forever...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop-Loss_%28Dollhouse%29

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Hugh Manatee Wins » Tue May 01, 2012 11:05 pm wrote:Re: the original post-

You can't miss the reference to 'Valley of the Dolls' film released in December 1967, again in 1969, and on television in 1981.

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The theme of women hurting themselves on pills and booze served perfectly to reinforce the cover story of the murder of journo Dorothy Kilgallen who told friends she was going to bust the JFK murder wide open.

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A JFK-plot perp, Clay Shaw, was on trial from 1967-1969 and then there was the truth hang-over after
the 1976-1979 House Select Committee on Assassinations.
The 1981 Committee on Ballistic Acoustics was charged with reviewing the HSCA’s acoustic evidence...,


Then there's the decades of MKULTRA decoys as fictional scripts....

A Congressional hearing report from 1965 on behavioral science and national security actually listed research grants on hypnosis for the Navy and Air Force. 'The Control of Candy Jones' (1976 about Jessica Wilcox) is a must read before you watch reruns of 'Three's Company.'

IanEye » Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:27 pm wrote:
But when you play a villain on TV, it sticks with you in the minds of those who don't know you. Bad move.


You are right Hugh. When Reagan did that cameo on Three's Company it probably cost him the nomination in '76.

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"Ok Roper, maybe you're onto something. There is something odd about that Tripper fellow....."


actually, this is Reagan and Norman Fell in "The Killers"....

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Postby MinM » Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:35 pm

marmot » Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:56 am wrote:Forgive me for my 'Fuckin Television' remark. It's not that this spectacular technology - in and of itself - is evil, But it's how television technology has been used to weaponize it's audience that marvels and angers me. See, it's not called 'programming' for nothin..

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Re: Fox Network Dollhouse Show - Hip MKULTRA

Postby JackRiddler » Sat Aug 13, 2016 8:09 pm

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(Implied spoiler alert.)

Spoiler:Now there's a movie version of the concluding cell-phone mind control plot from Dollhouse, albeit based on something by Stephen King (does he ever stop?). Anyway, cell phones do something to turn people into relentless killer-zombies and the usual story about a besieged crew of assorted still-humans having to murder everyone follows...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCns4w3GA9A

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