‘Human sacrifice’ staged at CERN's Shiva Statue

[Novem5er]

My issue with you, Mac, is that you are full of yourself and not slow to prove it at every opportunity. You act SO exasperated at "shit posters" and pretend your posts are any better. They aren't. Earlier in this thread, I said that I didn't read any of your posts, and that wasn't true . . . I skimmed them for content and found them to be exactly the same style and substance of so many other posts you've made in previous threads. You mostly pose questions that nobody can answer, elude to some narrative that you wont commit to, and then challenge anyone who asks questions that counter your questions. You make a fair point, on occasion, but it's mostly the same point ad nauseam: "there's smoke, so why aren't the authorities proving to us that there's no fire!"

But let us review some of your golden posts from this thread and maybe we can discover why your particular shit doesn't stink.

Well, ...

1. Who says people engaging in a ritual murder have to be expensively or elegantly dressed? (Compare the Manson Gang.)

2. There was no "lack of ceremony". Just a very short ceremony, before they cut to the chase.

3. What if the "all too willing victim" did not know what she was letting herself in for? (Like many a murdered woman.)

4. "the all too prepared cameraman"

See point # 3.

"the conveniently timed panic attack which makes it impossible to see what really happened."

Hypothesis: The cameraman thought he was going to be filming something else, say a sex-act or an actual orgy. Hence his snickering when the procession starts. Hence the bare-ankled participants (naked or lightly-clad under their cloaks). Then the knife appears: "What the fuck?" Then his panic when he sees the knife actually used.

The guy's response actually sounded very real to me. If you saw a kitschy pantomime suddenly culminate in a brutal stabbing (real or simulated), wouldn't you react similarly?

It's not a bad post . . . but so many questions. It's a shame that anytime anyone tries to answer those questions, you demean them and attempt to bully them into admitting they have no evidence to form those opinions (which is somehow different than your opinions).

Another point: Notice the lighting, a permanent fixture there which is designed to cast giant shadows of Shiva in several directions, upwards, onto several walls.

(It's a distinctly creepy effect in itself. Why would CERN want that? How would it tend to affect the mentality of people working there at night? It's not exactly a cheerer-upper.)

Anyway, the point is: Those multiple low-level lights also have the effect of casting huge shadows of anyone passing in front of them, and there were at least ten participants in that "ritual" that night. Giant, distorted, moving shadows all over the ground, and all over the walls! It reminds me of the Brocken Spectre, or Doctor Caligari's Cabinet.

So how on earth did they manage to escape detection by security guards (or by people working late in their offices)?

And why were they so unworried by the possibility of being caught? They cover quite a distance, and their movements are unhurried and "ceremonial" the entire time. And they're all dressed in bizarre and sinister costumes, and at least one of them is carrying a knife. That can't be explained away if they're stopped and searched. And there's at least ten of them, and they're all casting ENORMOUS SHADOWS. And yet they act as if they haven't a care in the world.

More questions! Again, there's nothing wrong with questions. In fact, this is just a great example of how brilliant your posts are as compared to . . . say my post with questions below . . .

If a person was stabbed in the neck and then dropped to the ground, would there be a growing pool of blood?

Would that blood still be there the next morning? Or do you think the cultists would have brought mops and buckets to clean up afterward?

If a person just witnessed a crime (and honestly believed that there WAS a crime) wouldn't they call the police immediately instead of uploading a video to youtube?

Are there probably video surveillance on the CERN campus that could clear up any questions about who arrived and who left the scene (or carried a body off)?

I think if someone were to believe that there was an actual murder in that video, they'd have to believe that CERN officials would then be covering up the crime. That's a possibility, I suppose.

What's this? I'm asking questions, too! And sure, I got one detail of the detail wrong from memory (the girl wasn't dropped) and you made sure to nail me for it, never mind that the point of the question remains true either way (evidence of blood). You hit me again for asking again about securities cameras . . . and you are right, buried in a wall of text a few pages back, someone (you?) mentioned there was probably cameras. Man, I need to work on my reading comprehension, I guess. But instead of ignoring these very minor faux paux, you are overwhelmed with exasperation and have to get snarky and personal about it. You build up this narrative of hyper-sensitive New RIers who roll over because all inquiry is futile; it's a bullshit narrative that you build, just like your bullshit narratives about Omar Mateen, the Dallas triple-snipers, lying Chief Brown, and now about CERN being so evasive and cryptic in their labeling this a hoax.

I'm not hypersensitive. I could care less what you think, but I don't let someone be an ass to me and let it go unchallenged. I'm not putting this post together to change your mind in any way. No, I put this together to, again, challenge your bullshit narrative and encourage you to get off your high horse. Until you scrounge up 10 quid to buy this forum from Jeff, you're just another poster.

[MacCruiskeen]

[Novem5er]

I can do that, too.

[MacCruiskeen]

What age are you? Seven?

[Novem5er]

Funny question coming from a person who can't seem to hold their own exasperation in check.

[MacCruiskeen]

(I would really only caution you against being baited by pro burners or else distracted by drifters from the tasks at hand)

Yeah, god knows there are enough tasks at hand.

I feel that we are approaching Peak Idiocy, though that probably just marks me out as an incorrigible optimist. No doubt there are still many large undiscovered fields left to be tapped.

QED.

(How long, o Lord, how long?)

[Novem5er]

Quoting yourself is actually classic-Mac. Let's run through the Mac playlist shall we?

Shit on people . . . then dismiss them . . . and then reference yourself as a shining example.

Is it any wonder that so few veteran posters engage you for more than a single post at a time?

[brekin]

(I would really only caution you against being baited by pro burners or else distracted by drifters from the tasks at hand)

Yeah, god knows there are enough tasks at hand.

I feel that we are approaching Peak Idiocy, though that probably just marks me out as an incorrigible optimist. No doubt there are still many large undiscovered fields left to be tapped.

QED.

(How long, o Lord, how long?)

Right here:

"Staged"? "Spoof"? "Prank"? Well, OK, if you say so...

The post RI made contact with the big black monolith of fake doggy doo.

[MacCruiskeen]

Keep it up, lads. Go ahead, take off your trousers, put those lampshades on your head, and carry on dancing on that bar. There's no way you'll regret it in the morning.

Mind if I take a photo? Thanks.

Goodnight.

[Novem5er]

Again, classic-Mac:

Make a scene about how terrible and shitty other posters are (as opposed to just ignoring them), and when they speak up and resist that narrative, dismiss them, call them silly, and dip-out.

Take a photo, Mac, but it will look exactly like the three or four other threads you've started and done the same thing in.

[OP ED]

"How long? Not long, because the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice."

[stefano]

I reckon it's a sort of initiation, like a hazing thing, they do every year at this time. It must be a big thing to go study there, and it is - becoming part of possibly the top pure-science research facility in the world. And, like other very selective study environments, it is also entry into a lifelong network. Interesting to think about how these things start - I have no idea, but nighttime, cloaks, hoods, shadow effects and so on are common in hazing things The officials know about it and have absolutely no inclination to tell the press anything. The police now know about it, if they didn't before, and the extent of their reaction was probably 'keep it quiet next time guys please.' The guy filming wanted to impress or shock or troll someone, filmed it and sent it off on WhatsApp, from where it reached enough people for someone to put it on YouTube. From there it became the kind of thing that goes a lot of places. CERN is fast becoming a talking point for the kind of site that sells get-rich-quick schemes next to bullshit about the Illuminati.

From YourNewsWire (my favourite in that genre):

CERN Physicist: We Have Done Something Evil & It Is Being Hidden

And, from the lurid pen of Baxter Dmitry:

Source Of CERN Sacrifice Video Found Dead

[Novem5er]

It probably hasn't been mention because of its Alex Jones connections, but the Bohemian Grove ceremony, The Cremation of Care, is sort of relevant to the point of hazing. Yes, there could be more nefarious purposes behind BG and their rituals, and for sure they are shocking to know our Christian political leaders have attended, but from a secular standpoint it is a ritual bonding exercise for rich frat boys. Why this particular subset seems so obsessed with mock traditions (until they become traditions in and of themselves) is a mystery to me. Why did David Cameron fuck a dead pig's mouth?

If this CERN thing is a hazing ritual, I'm curious who the hazees were. Was it the girl in the middle? Or was it the boys in the sheets?

If it were a hazing, that would support the observation that this seemed well rehearsed, even if it is a cheap and amateur production. I'll admit that guruilla had a point earlier when he said that a cheap and amateur production doesn't necessarily mean that it ISN'T an occult murder - just because a crime doesn't meet out expectations doesn't mean that it can't be a crime. But on the sliding scale of probabilities, internet trolling or nerd hazing falls on the more probable end, while scientist-satanists with cheap robes and expensive sneakers falls on the unlikely-end (with neither being certain or impossible).

[kool maudit]

I suspect it is because humiliation rituals allow power – the lifeblood of these people – to be felt invertedly. Inversion is a powerful ritual element.

[stefano]

Why this particular subset seems so obsessed with mock traditions (until they become traditions in and of themselves) is a mystery to me. Why did David Cameron fuck a dead pig's mouth?

This isn't like that, really. That's about doing something transgressive in the company of other young men, which then creates a bond. What it also creates is a gang of guys who will keep transgressing not only taboos, but laws and ethical rules as well.

From a really good piece I put up in the piggate thread:

The ritualised, sexually grotesque nature of Cameron’s initiation sets it apart somewhat, of course; but what’s also different about this kind of ritual in elite circles is the calculation behind it, the power and control it affords, and the self-perpetuating network of influence it creates. Consider this scenario; at elite institutions, those earmarked – by wealth, by title, by connections – for future leadership roles are forced, as impressionable young people, to carry out humiliating acts in order to gain acceptance by an in-group. That same in-group will, over the course of their lives, help advance their career massively in ways both overt and covert; membership of that group essentially secures their success in life. The cost of entry, paid by all members of the group, is participation in humiliating acts; acts which will forever wed them to the group, because should they later act in a way contrary to the group’s interests or desires, their “indiscretions” can be brought back to destroy their careers or personal lives.

That's a great piece of sociology btw, well worth a read.

There might be some of that in this, but I see more of another aspect that's common in initiations - the death/rebirth thing. There's a before and an after, you die to your old self and emerge from the ritual as someone new. It's in baptisms, the Hadj, the Freemasons' third degree - and all those cults took it from somewhere older.

If this CERN thing is a hazing ritual, I'm curious who the hazees were. Was it the girl in the middle? Or was it the boys in the sheets?

I'd guess the girl and the kneeling people were first-years, and the guys doing the theatrical business were second-years.