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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Freitag » Fri Aug 26, 2016 4:13 am

kool maudit » Thu Aug 25, 2016 7:25 pm wrote:Yeah, this guy (steroid man) sucks. But so does making him into some sort of approved politico-cultural hate-figure and having that be the discussion.You guys know they do the same with WorldStar videos on far-right forums, right? We can cherry-pick supporters all day so as to find the one who is most different from us, who most opposes the tenets of our preferred worldview, who has the qualities we despise most.


kool maudit » Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:28 pm wrote:(* Trump is essentially a civic nationalist who a lot of racists like. This is not the same as a racist, but is not neutral either. Hillary is a globalist hawk who US racists dislike but whose actions produce and inflame both racism and group-prejudices similar to racism – and as brutal as the US' worst excesses – at the empire's edges if not its centre.)


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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:27 am

no ........Trump is a racist

Trump is essentially a civic nationalist


Trump is a White Nationalist...that's what racists are calling themselves these days

you guys don't know what the fuck you are talking about

it's not smart to talk about something you know nothing about.....it's just plain stupid

he has racists running his campaign

he was sued for not renting to blacks

he goes to white neighborhoods to tell white suburban moms that he wants the black vote to convince them he is not a racist

he would not distance himself from a guy in his campaign who wants Clinton to be shot dead..who is under review by the Secret Service

he had the floor cleared of black workers before he entered the room

Black Employees at a Trump Casino Were Reportedly Removed Whenever the Donald Arrived


Donald Trump regularly incites political violence and is a serial liar, rampant xenophobe, racist, misogynist and birther who has repeatedly pledged to ban all Muslims — 1.6 billion members of an entire religion — from entering the U.S.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby kool maudit » Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:10 am

At this point, sheer volume or font alteration isn't going to do it. I don't think we have enough common ground here for a meaningful exchange (that's because I think you are woefully overplaying the racist thing and grievously, dangerously, and inexplicably underplaying the neocon one), and yet you keep shrieking at me ("you don't know what the fuck aaahhhh!").

Anyway, I enjoy John Michael Greer's ArchDruid Report blog, and yesterday he published a new piece with some thoughts on the US election.

I liked this bit a lot:

http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.dk/

"Let’s imagine, dear reader, that you were to go into a Starbuck’s in a hip neighborhood in Portland, Oregon, and ask the people there—dyed-in-the-wool Democrats to a man, woman, gender-nonspecific individual, and child—to describe their nightmare presidential candidate, the person they’d least like to see in the White House next January.

They’d tell you that it would be a political insider openly in bed with banks and big business who spent years in public service pandering to the rich, who is also a neoconservative who pursued regime-change operations against Third World countries and was committed to military confrontation with the Russians. The candidate would have a track record supporting the kind of trade agreements that allow corporations to overturn environmental laws, and would also be dogged by embarrassingly detailed allegations of corruption on a stunningly blatant scale. The candidate would insist that everything was just fine with America, and anyone who disagreed was just being negative. Oh, and it would help if the candidate had engaged in race-baiting behavior, and had insisted that a woman’s claim that she was raped wasn’t to be taken seriously if it was directed at a member of the candidate’s own family.

That is to say, the rank and file Democrats’ idea of the worst possible President is Hillary Clinton.

Now let’s imagine that you were to hop on a Greyhound, get off in Bowling Green, Kentucky, head for the nearest Southern Baptist church social, and ask the people there—dyed-in-the-wool Republicans down to the very last lady, gentleman, and well-scrubbed child—to describe their nightmare presidential candidate, the person they’d least like to see in the White House come January.

They’d tell you that of course it would be a Yankee from New York City, which still edges out Los Angeles in the minds of many of the godly as the ultimate cesspit of evil in North America. The candidate would be a profiteer who made a pile of money exploiting vice, a wheeler-dealer who repeatedly declared bankruptcy to get out from under inconvenient debts. The candidate would be vulgar—you have no idea of the force of this word until you’ve heard it uttered in tones of total disdain by an elderly woman who’s a downwardly mobile descendant of Southern planters—and a hypocrite in religious matters, mouthing only such Christian catchphrases as might help win the election. Such a candidate would of course be on a second or third or fourth marriage, have fathered a child out of wedlock, and would fail to show any trace of pious horror toward gays, lesbians, transexuals, and the like. Finally, such a candidate would claim that America is no longer the greatest nation on Earth and has to make sweeping changes to become great again.

That is to say, the rank and file Republicans’ idea of the worst possible President is Donald Trump.

I suppose its probably too late in the game for both of the parties to do the right thing and swap candidates, so that the Republicans can go back to running a corrupt establishment neoconservative and the Democrats can field a libertine populist demagogue. Lacking such a sensible move, it’s not at all surprising that so many people have basically gone gaga, as Democratic and Republican voters try to convince themselves that they really do want to vote for someone who’s literally everything they least want in the Oval Office. That degree of cognitive dissonance does not make for calm discussions, rational decisions, or sane politics." — JMG
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:14 am

you think am overplaying it because you are a white male...and I am not overplaying it.....you can't overplay the fact that he is a racist and I have proven that to you over and over again and you just refuse to admit the facts laid in front of you,,you can go off on your little tangents to side track the fact that Trump is a racist but it does not remove the fact that he is a racist ..it is all laid out for you here but you refuse to read and admit it


he is just not a racist he is all of these things

Donald Trump regularly incites political violence and is a serial liar, rampant xenophobe, racist, misogynist and birther who has repeatedly pledged to ban all Muslims — 1.6 billion members of an entire religion — from entering the U.S.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby kool maudit » Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:24 am

You are communicating in a shitty way, and you have now lain my rejection of your premises at the feet of my gender and ancestry. What disgraceful contributions you are now making to the thread.

And you have not at all addressed the regime-change/neoconservatism argument at all, nor the lynchings and the rapes – the lynchings and the rapes! the burnings and the hangings and the stonings and the defenestrations! – that are occurring across the wastes of Iraq, Libya, and Syria – places reduced to wastes by Clinton's policies and Bush's before her.

How dare you speak against bigotry without addressing the utter filth at the edge of your empire. Do you have any idea what is being suffered by the Yazidi, by the Druze, by the Kurds, by all people unfortunate to live under or near the warlords created and armed by neocon policy?

It's almost worse, in some cases, than being insulted.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:31 am

we have plenty of threads on empire ..this thread is about the RACIST TRUMP go there and discuss that quit highjacking this thread

if you can't admit Trump is a racist then what are you?

it's shitting to me that you are making excuses for a racist

I am insulted by you whitewashing a racist


there is a Clinton thread go there and discuss her... quit highjacking this thread to talk about her

Trump's Deportation Plan Could Cause Economic Chaos in Mexico

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Remittances to Mexico total an estimated $25 billion and play a key role in the survival of the poor, who comprise more than 45 percent of the population. (Photo:Richard Allaway)

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An August 24 New York Time article reports on how important remittances (money sent home by workers living in other countries) are to the economic stability of nations with high poverty rates:

The millions of migrant workers who drill for oil, deliver pizza or take care of older adults far from home sent nearly $582 billion back to their countries in 2015, according to the World Bank....

....remittances have become crucial to relieving some of the world’s poorest people from hunger and want, just as they have become a major revenue source for a number of fragile nations.

A separate World Bank study found that remittances were the main reason poverty had declined so sharply there in recent years. Not only do families of migrant workers benefit, the study found; so does everybody else, when the families spend that money locally.

A 2015 Reuters article stated that the Mexican government disclosed:

Two million more Mexicans fell into poverty between 2012 and 2014, government data showed on Thursday, highlighting the challenges President Enrique Pena Nieto faces in meeting pledges to lift millions out of need.

The poverty rate increased by 0.7 percentage point to 46.2 percent last year from 45.5 percent in 2012, equivalent to 55.3 million people in the nation of nearly 120 million, said government social development agency Coneval.

As a result, additional revenue -- such as remittances -- that are sent to Mexico are even more vital for many people's survival. The Mexican economy currently resembles an oligarchy, and dramatic political change in the direction of economic justice does not appear to be on the horizon in the near future. This is due to a variety of factors, including the US's efforts to ensure that Mexico does not engage in real economic reform, which would distract it from becoming a full-fledged member of the neoliberal global economy.

ThinkProgress has noted that Trump's threat earlier this year to cut off remittances to Mexico would be destructive to the nation's economy (and probably unenforceable) -- not to mention imperiling those in poverty and extreme poverty who depend on remittances for survival:

Mexico received more than $24.4 billion in remittances in 2014 from immigrants living in the United States, which makes up about two percent of the Mexican GDP, according to World Bank data. Losing that money could devastate the country’s economy.

Trump claims that the "majority of that amount comes from illegal aliens. It serves as de facto welfare for poor families in Mexico." In fact, according to Government Accountability Office report, Department of Homeland Security officials haven’t yet tracked down the immigration status of remittance senders.

Actually, it's impossible to know what percentage of remittances from salaries earned in the US are from undocumented workers and what percentage come from individuals with green cards, from those on exploitative work visas, or from US citizens with relatives in Mexico. However, anecdotally, it is clear that a sizable amount of the approximately $25 billion is sent by undocumented workers in the US. It is likely that this money primarily goes to people who -- like nearly 50 percent of the Mexican population -- are living in poverty, particularly since the vast majority of undocumented workers seek employment in the US because they cannot find it in Mexico. Their relatives are likely to be similarly struggling.

Furthermore, if Trump were to somehow actually deport the approximately 9 to 11 million undocumented people currently living in the US, he would be initiating economic chaos in Mexico and Central America. Not only would he be cutting off billions of dollars in remittances, he would be throwing those people in need of work back into economies that cannot provide them with jobs. As a result, the number of people in poverty in Mexico would rise even more.

Of course, money also flows into Mexico from drug sales. In 2014, National Public Radio (NPR) noted in an article: "The U.S. State Department reported in 2013 that Mexican drug mafias send to Mexico between $19 billion and $29 billion a year from proceeds of marijuana, cocaine, heroin and methamphetamines sold in the United States." Other figures for drug trafficking between Mexico and the US are as high as $64 billion, as referenced in the Latin American Herald Tribune and attributed to Mexico's public safety director. The latter figure appears an outlier, unless you possibly account for the drug money generated by sales in the US that are then laundered into industries like construction and gambling. There is no proof that Donald Trump is currently involved with drug cartel financing through his construction companies, but then again, we haven't seen his taxes.

Trump has been unusually low-key about promoting the "war on drugs." Although times have changed in public attitudes toward that "war," it's still a little curious that a GOP candidate, given the Republican tradition, has said so much about undocumented workers and remittances and so little about the drug trade between Mexico and the US.

Maybe that is because the drug money benefits not just the leaders of the drug cartels, but oligarchs and banks that are glad to utilize their funds both in the US and Mexico.

Drug money goes to the wealthy and large investors, in the end, because you can't store large amounts of cash in a bank without drawing narcotics enforcement attention. Donald Trump probably knows that. After all, remittances go primarily to the poor and needy -- and Trump's scorn for them is a politically safe way to promote his insidious agenda.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby kool maudit » Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:35 am

We're bringing out the worst in each other and the discourse; I'll withdraw from this thread.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:38 am

blatant in your face racism does bring out the worst in people

and btw he is just not a racist he incites political violence and is a serial liar, rampant xenophobe, misogynist and birther
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:03 am

Why Trump And The White Supremacist Alt-Right Are Threats To Democratic Values — And Our National Security
08/25/2016 08:11 am ET | Updated 22 hours ago

I recently returned from an international seminar where one of the scholars argued a point that is very important for every American to hear before November 8th.

He said that democracies come in many different forms with various structures and systems. But authoritarian regimes all have four characteristics in common:

Grievance-Driven Nationalism.
The narrative that the majority of people have been victimized by enemies - foreign and domestic.
The legitimation of conspiratorial thinking.
The argument that only the one strong man can come to the people’s rescue.
These things are true whether they describe the authoritarian regimes of history like Mussolini and Stalin, or those of the current period, like Kim Jong-un in North Korea, or Putin in Russia - both of which Donald Trump apparently admires.
And those four characteristics practically define the Trump political message. Trump argues that he will make America “Great Again” — that he will address the legitimate grievances of those whose incomes have stagnated by throwing out the immigrants, the Muslims, the “others” that have made it so — none of which has anything whatsoever to do with the economic pain he alleges to address.

Many Americans have seen what happens when a strong man blames the “other” for a nation’s sense of victimization. It always ends in tragedy, whether for the Jews of Europe or the Tutsis of Rwanda.

Trump has no compunction creating and legitimating conspiracy theories such as his “birther” fantasy that President Obama was born in Kenya and is not the “legitimate” President.

And Trump makes it clear every day that only he can fix the country’s problems — apparently through the force of his own will.

The so-called Alt-Right Movement championed by Brietbart.com, whose CEO is now directing the Trump campaign, is the face of right-wing authoritarian nationalism in the United States.

But it is critical to understand that Trump and his Alt-Right, white supremacist colleagues are not an isolated phenomenon. Right-wing nationalist parties are once again growing stronger and stronger in Europe as well. They too have fed upon the discontent spawned by wage stagnation and growing income inequality that — while not as severe as it is in the United States — has created fertile ground for the revival of grievance-based nationalist fervor. In Western Europe, their villains are the flood of immigrants from the Middle East that have fled the violence of the Syrian civil war, and workers emigrating to the West from Eastern Europe.

In fact, the leader of the British right-wing nationalist party, Nigel Farage, spoke at Trump’s rally last night in Jackson, Mississippi.

Of course, the right-wing nationalists of Europe ignore entirely the fact that the major cause of income stagnation is the fact that billionaires like Trump have taken an increasing share of their country’s economic output, just as they have in the United States.

Incomes are not flat for most Americans because the economy as a whole has failed to grow. In fact, per-person gross domestic product in the United States has increased 48 percent over the last 30 years. America is wealthier per person today than at any other time in its history.

Incomes are not flat because immigrants and poor people have taken money from the pockets of ordinary workers. Incomes are flat because billionaires like Donald Trump have siphoned off virtually every dime of that per-person economic growth and kept it for themselves.

They have used their political influence to manipulate the tax system, and cut their own taxes so they often pay lower tax rates than their secretaries or janitors. One of the few Trump tax returns that is publicly available showed that in the early seventies he paid virtually no taxes.

Now, he has steadfastly refused to disclose his more recent tax returns — either because they too would show how little he has paid, or because they would show he is not as wealthy as he claims, or because they would lay bare his deals with oligarchs and other unsavory business schemes — or all of the above.

And Trump has made a tax proposal that would give himself even more tax breaks.

A tiny fraction of wealthy Americans have siphoned off most of the increased income generated by our economy over the last three decades, and at the same time they have managed to avoid paying taxes on much of that increase. That has left most ordinary Americans with three bad options:

Slash the quality of their schools, roads and other public services;
Pay more in taxes out of stagnant incomes;
Borrow money from the very wealthy people who have refused to pay their fair share to cover a deficit - and pay them interest for the privilege.
This is not rocket science. If the increased economic growth had been equally distributed, we would all be 48 percent better off economically today than we were 30 years ago. But wages for most workers have remained stagnant. That growth went somewhere — and we know from the data where; it is no mystery. It did not go to immigrants. It did not go to the poor. It did not go to pay “lazy workers.” Virtually all of it went to the Donald Trumps of the world.

Right-wing authoritarian narratives may not be supported by the facts — but they have a deep emotional appeal to ordinary people looking for someone to blame for their own economic frustration. And that makes those narratives very dangerous.

Right-wing authoritarian nationalism ripped apart the world 75 years ago in the form of World War II. It once again poses a threat to democratic societies. If it is allowed to succeed, it will endanger the democratic institutions and values in the United States and Europe.

Worse, if it is allowed to grow unchecked, authoritarian nationalism has one logical conclusion: violence and war.


Just ask the people of Europe and East Asia — and the American Veterans of the “Greatest Generation” — how well the rise of authoritarian nationalism worked out in the 1930s and ‘40s. Ask the relatives of the literally millions who died.

The Marshall Plan, the European Union and NATO were all created following World War II to prevent the nightmare recurrence of authoritarian nationalism in Europe. The EU and NATO have both begun to show the strains of pressure from resurgent right-wing nationalists’ forces. And most Europeans are terrified at the prospect that Trump might become President of the United States — destroy these critical institutions — and fan the flames of xenophobia.

We can already see what fanning the flames of xenophobia can do. Several months ago David Petraeus, former U.S. Commander in Iraq and head of the CIA, wrote a piece in the Washington Post with the headline: “Anti-Muslim Bigotry Aids Islamic Terrorists.”

The piece was explicitly aimed at Donald Trump.

Experts on the Middle East and radical jihadist terrorism are virtually unanimous in their view that Donald Trump’s victory would be a bonanza for ISIS. In fact, ISIS is already using Trump’s pronouncements in its recruiting videos.

The entire ISIS narrative — and its appeal to young Muslims — rests upon their argument that Islam is engaged in a massive historic struggle with the United States and the West. They argue that the U.S. is leading a great final “crusade” to take Muslim lands, Muslim oil, Muslim’s heritage — to destroy the Muslim religion.

Donald Trump’s anti-Muslim rhetoric does more to legitimate that narrative than all of their clever social media work — all of their horrific violent videos — put together.

Just as bad, Trump makes it infinitely more difficult for the United States to engage moderate Sunni Muslim countries to join with us in the battle against ISIS.

And his rhetoric even plays into the hands of Iran’s hard-line Shias that are engaged in a struggle for power with the growing moderate Muslim and secular elements of Iranian society.

The Shia religious and Republican Guard leadership in Iran completely despises ISIS and radical Sunni jihadists like Al Qaeda. To bolster their position they spin out conspiracy theories of their own — that ISIS is actually the creation of the United States that was organized to check Shia power and legitimate the presence of the United States in the Middle East.

Then comes Trump, who actually says President Obama founded ISIS.

In his recent “national security” speech, Trump claimed that the United States should have occupied Iraq’s oil fields — completely legitimating the Jihadist narrative that the United States wants to take Muslim resources.

The logic of Trump’s rhetoric about ISIS — and for that matter his approach to Iran and his proposed abrogation of the agreement to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon — will, if he is elected, inevitably lead to another major ground war in the Middle East.

That is exactly what ISIS is praying for. They desperately want to draw the U.S. into that kind of conflict on the ground throughout the Middle East — a conflict that they believe will allow them to recruit thousands of young people and ultimately end in an apocalyptic defeat of the West.

As Petraeus put it in his Washington Post article: “....those who flirt with hate speech against Muslims should realize they are playing directly into the hands of Al-Qaeda and the Islamic State.”

Trump has become the leader of a right-wing, authoritarian nationalist movement that could be a grave danger to our own democratic institutions and to any hope we have for a more peaceful world.

But we can stop him. Sound the alarm. Make sure your friends and neighbors understand that Trump is not just another conservative candidate. Donald Trump is dangerous. And the one thing that could allow him to succeed is complacency and low voter turnout in the most important election of our lifetimes.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Nordic » Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:44 pm

seemslikeadream » Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:38 am wrote:blatant in your face racism does bring out the worst in people

and btw he is just not a racist he incites political violence and is a serial liar, rampant xenophobe, misogynist and birther



I'm not disagreeing that he's all of these things.

He is.

My point is that Hillary is actually WORSE.

Any chance we could acknowledge that, or is being a racist the absolute worst thing a person could be?

Serious question. I believe being a murdering war criminal neocon hell bent on starting WW3 is actually worse. And what is slaughtering men and women and children around the globe if not racist?
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby backtoiam » Fri Aug 26, 2016 2:34 pm

nordic

Serious question. I believe being a murdering war criminal neocon hell bent on starting WW3 is actually worse. And what is slaughtering men and women and children around the globe if not racist?


The Clintons are murdering, raping, lying, money grubbing, racist, and power hungry assholes. Just ask the millions of their victims. Speaking of Misogyny maybe we should ask Bill's rape victims how they feel about being badgered into silence by Hillary. Two little boys in Mena Arkansas had their throats slit and were thrown on a railroad track by these assholes. Hillary is a proven demonic individual, Trump is only a proven blow hard mouthy money motivated individual at this point. I would vote for a chimpanzee before a Clinton.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Fri Aug 26, 2016 3:17 pm

Nordic » Fri Aug 26, 2016 12:44 pm wrote:
seemslikeadream » Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:38 am wrote:blatant in your face racism does bring out the worst in people

and btw he is just not a racist he incites political violence and is a serial liar, rampant xenophobe, misogynist and birther



I'm not disagreeing that he's all of these things.

He is.

My point is that Hillary is actually WORSE.

Any chance we could acknowledge that, or is being a racist the absolute worst thing a person could be?

Serious question. I believe being a murdering war criminal neocon hell bent on starting WW3 is actually worse. And what is slaughtering men and women and children around the globe if not racist?


I'm going to have to disagree most vociferously, Trump is FAR FUCKING WORSE than Hillary.

First, any chance we could acknowledge that when it comes to foreign policy and geopolitics, the President always follows an agenda of Elite origin not of their own making? That Bill Hicks may have couched it in humorous terms, but he was actually spelling out the way things really work?

Because once you acknowledge that, it's quite clear the only difference between Trump and Clinton is what they'll accomplish domestically. And that's where Trump is FAR FUCKING WORSE for all the reasons seemslikeadream has mentioned plus a whole lot more.

You really think if the Elite are "hell bent on starting WW3" Trump would stand in their way?
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Fri Aug 26, 2016 3:38 pm

8bitagent » Fri Aug 26, 2016 1:16 am wrote:Part of me still thinks that if there was no Bernie Sanders, and research showed a far angry populist left turn would win him the White House, Trump would have come out in June 2016 as Bernie Sanders on steroids.


There's a part of me that agrees with you. Trump will literally say and do anything to attract attention in the hopes of garnering enough votes to prop up his phony reality TV image of being the ultimate in winning. But with or without Bernie, I don't think Trump took that turn because:

1. I don't think that the US has a large enough angry populist left contingency to win the White House and Trump knows that.

2. He's a fucking racist. A pro-choice, pro-gay rights racist, but still, once he threw his lot in with the birthers six years ago, it's pretty fucking hard to run as a lefty.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby 82_28 » Fri Aug 26, 2016 3:52 pm

In a "sane" world trump should have been decimated by now. He's being nailed by everybody. There is something existential going on here.

Maybe trump was born as an inside joke?
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Aug 26, 2016 3:57 pm

thinking that electing trump would mean there would be no WWlll....is just bizarre

if WWlll was to break out thinking that it would be advantageous to have trump at the wheel ...is just bizarro world over the top

if trump was president and the world was at total war....trump would let his military advisors handle the whole thing of course because he is a no knowing .....and letting the military handle a world war all by itself is total insanity
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