guruilla » Tue Aug 30, 2016 8:59 pm wrote:Burnt Hill wrote:Who ever said there is no such thing as black, or whit magic(k)?
I inferred it. My laugh smiley was at the idea of CERN being run by Gandalf like wizards, not at the idea of white magick, tho I think it's also laughable. If magick is the appliance of will to bring about change, that makes it the inverse of surrender, hence never anything approaching "white," to refer to what it distinctly Harry Potter-ish symbolism. In my own experience,
practicing magick & ego inflation are so tightly entangled that I doubt they can ever be fully separated. The same applies to other displines, science, the arts, religion.
There is a difference between simple curiosity to know more about the nature of reality and the sort of drive to crack the code of existence that fires a person with sufficient ambition to become a Scientist, Occultist, Artist, or Cult Leader, and what makes them useful, like Crowley, like Parsons, like Hubbard, as agents of social engineering.Meanwhile, I received an email about this thread from a former RI member who prefers not to be named but who said it was okay to share the content of their emails. I'm doing so because I think it adds something to the discussion that's maybe lacking, tho I won't specify what that is, exactly.
All scientific research requires funding, usually from large, government agencies (NSF, NIH, USDA, etc.) or else corporate-affiliated foundations. All of these organizations have an agenda, whether it's openly stated or not. It is almost impossible to do scientific research without conforming to the research agenda of one of these funding agencies. While some good can and does come out of Science as an institution, for the most part the central purpose is to concentrate power in smaller hands. Whether you call this "evil" or "satanic" is up to you.
To me, the CERN video is obviously a hoax/prank in the sense that it is a theatrical representation of a sacrifice, where nobody did in fact get murdered. (Of course I could be wrong, but there are several tells that suggest to me that it is a mediocre performance.) Its purpose was to extend a middle finger to the unwashed masses that would criticize the aims of CERN and the purposes of the LHC, especially Christian fundamentalists who suspect that CERN is trying to open a portal to hell. Thus, it is similar to the aims of ASS (as you have suggested). Note that nothing in my experience suggests that students and post-docs above such a prank, and I can point you to several lighter amusing Youtube videos that were produced by graduate students of top-tier institutions to poke fun at their own endeavors (e.g. the "Bad Romance" spoof, which was passed around quite a bit a few years back).
Thus the real issue here is the hubris of Science as an institution, its ultimate purpose to concentrate power (as textbook a definition of human "evil" as any, in my view), and its unwillingness to see the harm it does to humanity. Also, if you believe that nonhuman animals deserve some level of autonomy (as do I), then the level of suffering to mice, cats, dogs, and monkeys at the hands of medical science would also contribute to the view of Science as an evil institution. (Of course, so would our standard agricultural practices.) New drugs and devices usually cannot make it to Phase I/II/III trial without having been validated by an "animal model". Also, the toxicology upon which many of our environmental regulations are based involves the sacrifice of large numbers of animals. Since people I know and love have benefited from the advances of medical science, I am of course a bit conflicted. However, the whole operation works like an egregore, and hardly anybody questions the morality of the fundamental methods.
The CERN video is merely a prideful smirk, along the lines of "how dare you question the high priests of truth?" I would hardly expect any response from CERN other than the one they have given, and within the context of the present society, it is in my view sufficient. However, our entire society is deeply compromised, and institutional Science is merely the tip of the iceberg. The CERN video is merely superficial and innocuous evidence of a very profound and pervasive society-wide spiritual problem.
I think the students/post-docs who made the video are totally oblivious [of the reality ritual abuse]. . . . Obviously I don't really know, but I base this opinion on my experience that most scientists are oblivious to the moral dimensions of the work they (we?) do. The theatrical satanists are just asserting their intellectual superiority using High Snark. I would not rule out actual human sacrifice occurring at or near the LHC, but I don't think it has anything to do with this particular video. I do think that human sacrifice is used in occult rituals (by elites, who else can afford the trappings and the efforts?) although it would take me a long time to reconstruct an evidence-based argument for that. Certainly the prominence AC has received in his life and after his passing is at least a small part of the evidence. I don't buy the "poetic" interpretation of AC's writings, with or without footnotes. It's horrifying poetry, hardly conducive to what I think is spiritual development. On the other hand, I can see exactly how literal human sacrifice would help to seal deals with negative discarnate entities. This all follows as a direct corollary of Jeff Well's writings, so it's surprising that the RI forum does not recognize it. I am hesitant to focus too much on these issues, but I guess I am still examining my own culpability in our collective cultural rot.
Hopefully I'm interpreting correctly this time,
but, if I am, I couldn't agree more with what you and your friend said here. Is there any doubt that the extraordinarily wealthy and powerful have their sights set on gaining their own power over creation and destruction? We see evidence of it everyday, yet we continue to completely place our trust in these scientists who are generously funded by these wannabe gods.
Changing the subject slightly, It's also hard for me to believe that the Gotthard tunnel (Switzerland is home to eleven of the world’s longest and deepest known tunnels) isn't somehow connected to CERN, both multi-billion dollar projects less than 100 miles from each other. Consider that the Mont Blanc tunnel (11.611 kilometers or 7.215 miles) and Gotthard tunnel each took 20 years to construct when the Simplon Tunnel beneath the Swiss-Italian Alps was under construction for 9-years (1912 to 1921) and is 39.524 kilometers or 24.5591 miles in length.Yet the Swiss argue that improvements in technology were responsible for the more than tenfold increase in the tunnel’s completion rate. Did the prolonged construction of these tunnels provide some sort of cover for CERN activity? Do they connect underground for some purpose?
Even if they are not directly connected, there does seem to be a connection between the the multi-million dollar bizarre in-your-face demonic tunnel opening ceremony--you do not have to be well-versed in decoding satanic symbolism and ritual to see-- that attracted six dignitaries from six nations and CERN.
For instance, in one segment of this elaborate ceremony, miners remove their clothes then labor in tribal unity, like hypnotized zombies,
to open an abyss represented on a huge video screen. Someone else noticed the dancers are acting out a sort of particle-physics ballet of sub-atomic quarks and other elements. Then, in CERN's "Symmetry," many images appear that remind one of the Gotthard ballet or vice versa since "Symmetry" came first.
So was this freakish ritual display really celebrating something CERN accomplished? If just the tunnel, it seems a ribbon cutting ceremony attended by the public would suffice. Where were the elaborate ceremonies for the prior longest deepest tunnels in the world?
And someone noticed that there is not an unedited, close-up video of the Gotthard Tunnel Finale. He said,
at the very end of the opening ceremony the camera’s positioned far off from the stage, where I suspect some type of overt faux satanic ritual may have been performed – one that couldn’t be seen from the camera’s vantage point because the horn players were lined-up shoulder-to-shoulder at the side of the stage, blocking the view. Listen for the screams and watch some kind of liquid splashing around in the final scene as the crowd applauds. The camera stays positioned far from the stage until the end of the show.
Even if we don't, those in the know do understand what symbolism is about and they love to encode information in symbolism because they know most won't have a clue on a conscious level, nevertheless will assimilate it at a subconscious level especially when it's displayed repeatedly in major public performances all over the world.
