TRUMP is seriously dangerous

[Nordic]

Did you see any of the footage of him "dancing" swaying really with the sparse congregation? Pretending you're having a good time is hard to do as an authoritarian.

EDIT: Ah yes here it is:

God, he's disconnected--he can't even sway in sync.(The spooks behind him seem more engaged with reality. )

Kind of a dodgy crowd to refer to as"spooks".

[Cordelia]

Did you see any of the footage of him "dancing" swaying really with the sparse congregation? Pretending you're having a good time is hard to do as an authoritarian.

EDIT: Ah yes here it is:

God, he's disconnected--he can't even sway in sync.(The two 'men' spooks behind him, to his right seem more engaged with reality. )

Kind of a dodgy crowd to refer to as"spooks".

I meant two Trump spooks; sorry for any confusion. See^^

[JackRiddler]

I noticed that too, but "spooks" is afaik long out of use as a derogatory term for African Americans, and very much in use (on RI and elsewhere) as a derogatory term for employed members of clandestine agencies and security services. Which is what the two white guys look like, especially the one on the right. And the only way I'd ever expect Cordelia to mean it!

[SonicG]

It is absolutely farcical!

[backtoiam]

Daammnnnnn, Pastor Burns just got his ass smmooookkkeeeeddddd

[Nordic]

I noticed that too, but "spooks" is afaik long out of use as a derogatory term for African Americans, and very much in use (on RI and elsewhere) as a derogatory term for employed members of clandestine agencies and security services. Which is what the two white guys look like, especially the one on the right. And the only way I'd ever expect Cordelia to mean it!

I know. I was joking. I actually did do a mental double-take when I saw the use of the word and all the African Americans ....

[backtoiam]

https://youtu.be/UGTzjZqfZUA

[kool maudit]

Can anyone deny in good faith that, whatever Trump's idiocies and evils, pretty much the full weight of the American empire's cultural wing is being used to protect the Clinton candidacy?

I mean, imagine if she were some sort of Republican Texan with a southern accent and Trump was Jill Stein. Imagine the optics of the coverage with the folk-devils/identity tokens switched around just a bit.

[8bitagent]

Can anyone deny in good faith that, whatever Trump's idiocies and evils, pretty much the full weight of the American empire's cultural wing is being used to protect the Clinton candidacy?

I mean, imagine if she were some sort of Republican Texan with a southern accent and Trump was Jill Stein. Imagine the optics of the coverage with the folk-devils/identity tokens switched around just a bit.

Oh no doubt. And to that I'd say, could anything less than the perception of a far right racist embellishing buffoon as an opponent help Clinton win? She's so unpopular so many tepid Republican or leftist candidates would be beating her handily. When Kissinger, Wolfowitz, Rothschilds, ect are openly in the press touting their support of Clinton...and I feel bad for the Bernie folks who truly think Clinton will not bring us the Trans Pacific Partnership.
Last September of 2015, she openly said she wants to bring a more "muscular" foreign policy approach...as if the half a billion dead Syrians, tens of thousands of dead Libyans and 10,000 dead Yemeni civilians aren't enough under Obama

There really can be no pretending, as a leftist, that Hillary is some sort of progressive. She's Bush Cheney with a pant suit(Cheney was for gay rights before even Hillary, so Dems can't use that)
The only possible argument someone who claims to be progressive, liberal or anti war to also somehow be in support of Clinton is simply for the horror or worry of Trumps seeming embrace of the populist far right/racists. Without that, Clinton would be losing bad among center/leftists.

[Nordic]

Can anyone deny in good faith that, whatever Trump's idiocies and evils, pretty much the full weight of the American empire's cultural wing is being used to protect the Clinton candidacy?

I have never seen anything like it. There's not even the slightest pretense of being "fair" or trying to show 2 sides of a story, or even humor ing one side a bit (because they're half the citizens of the country and therefore the viewing audience), yes indeed it is a brazen and massive conspiracy to propagandize one side into the White House.

Seriously, has anyone here ever witnessed anything remotely like this? I've been voting since 1980 and I have not.

[Searcher08]

I noticed that too, but "spooks" is afaik long out of use as a derogatory term for African Americans, and very much in use (on RI and elsewhere) as a derogatory term for employed members of clandestine agencies and security services. Which is what the two white guys look like, especially the one on the right. And the only way I'd ever expect Cordelia to mean it!

That was funny - I was *sure* that 'spook' was Afro-Carib slang for whites (in the same way Chinese use 'gweilo' = ghost man; spook is Dutch for ghost) but you were right.
The other (intel) usage is quite common in the UK - there was a big BBC thriller series called 'Spooks'.

[Luther Blissett]

God I don't want to have to stave off skinheads again. Please go away.

It won't be nearly that bad, most of the Alt-Right are quite effete "IRL," as the youth say. If anything, it'll be like staving off the mean rich kids from the 80's high school movie. You know, the guys with the pastel, collared shirts, and the sweaters wrapped over the shoulders just so.

The real problem is their keen interest in governance and the logistics of actual political change. That last round of WN's were doing Turner Diary LARPing, robbing banks and shit. That was crazy and scary and bad and etc, but I think men without criminal records getting elected to office would be of more concern.

They will find funding. Skinheads were pariahs by comparison, too close to the street-level realities of drug dealing (aka, drug addiction and shitty tattoos).

https://www.facebook.com/evan.p.matthew ... nref=story
The Philadelphia Police Department police officer pictured below is Officer Ian Hans Lichtermann of Northeast Philadelphia’s second precinct. Tattooed on Officer Lichtermann’s left forearm is the official insignia of Adolph Hitler’s Nazi Party.
The pictures below were taken on July 26, 2016 at Philadelphia’s #BlackResistanceMarch. Held in the midst of the Democratic National Convention, the march was organized by a number of Philadelphia community organizations, most notably the Philly Coalition for REAL Justice and Workers World Party. The protest was held in solidarity with #BlackLivesMatter and in opposition to the state oppression of Black people, poor people, and people of color. When photographed, Officer Lichtermann was part of a line of nearly one hundred police officers who were blocking entrance to a major city intersection.
The eagle of Nazi Germany, the Third Reich, and Officer Lichtermann’s tattoo is called the partieadler. With wings outstretched and a simplistic design, the partieadler is distinct from the national emblem in every other era of German history, a history that stretches from the reichsadler’s first appearance in the 12th century, to its present design. For comparison, the chronology of the German reichsadler is pictured below. (1)
In the midsection of Officer Lichtermann’s partieadler, though difficult to see in the included photos, is the Iron Cross. An old Prussian military award reinstituted by Adolph Hitler in 1939, the Iron Cross was an commendation given to members of Nazi Germany’s police and military. Adolph Hitler himself was a recipient of the Iron Cross. (2)
On Officer Lichtermann’s right forearm is an assault rifle in-laid over the flag of the United States. The assault rifle, the same weapon police used to kill Yuvette Henderson and Teo Valencia in the Bay Area (CA), is often aquired in mass by police departments through military decommission. (3) Under the flag of the United States and the AR-15 is the phrase “For God and Country,” the motto of the American Legion, a veterans organization.
In 2006, the counterterrorism division of the FBI released a report warning of the widespread infiltration of white supremacists in law enforcement. The report specifically references incidents in Los Angeles, Florida, Chicago, Cleveleand, and one Texas sherriff’s department where officers had been fired after their ties to white supremacists groups were discovered. (4) In 2015, the San Francisco Police Department fired seven officers after communications were discovered showing allegiances to white supremacists ideologies and expressing their desire to lynch Black folks. In 2016, the SFPD offered those officers their jobs back. (5) Since the FBI counterterrorism report was released in 2006, the amount of white supremacists groups has over quadruple. (6)
Call the Philadelphia Police 2nd Precinct and let them know employing a police officer with a white-supremacist, Nazi tattoo is unacceptable. Their number is 215-686-3020 and their Facebook is Philadelphia Police Department.
(1) Wikipedia entry on Reichsadler, accessed August 29, 2016
(2) The Guardian (UK), “Adolph Hitler a war hero? Anything but, said first world war comrades,” August 10, 2010,
(3) E’ville Eye “APTP Stokes AR-15 Debate by Hosting Public Forum in Emeryville,” December 24, 2015,
(4) FBI Counterterrorism Division, “White Supremacist Infiltration of Law Enforcement,” October 17, 2006,
(5) “SF cops who wrote racist text messages win court ruling,” SF Gate, December 21, 2015
(6) PBS Newshour, “As racial hate groups rise, strategies to shut them down,” March 25, 2016, Interview with Heidi Beirich, leader of the Intelligence Project at the Southern Poverty Law Center,
Additional credits: Photos of Officer Lichtermann by Evan P. Matthews, photo of Adolph Hitler beneath reichadler copyrighted by newsteam accessed in "Fury at trendy fashion label's logo" by Daily Mail (UK), October 9, 2015

He is a member of Blood and Honour.

[NeonLX]

Can anyone deny in good faith that, whatever Trump's idiocies and evils, pretty much the full weight of the American empire's cultural wing is being used to protect the Clinton candidacy?

I have never seen anything like it. There's not even the slightest pretense of being "fair" or trying to show 2 sides of a story, or even humor ing one side a bit (because they're half the citizens of the country and therefore the viewing audience), yes indeed it is a brazen and massive conspiracy to propagandize one side into the White House.

Seriously, has anyone here ever witnessed anything remotely like this? I've been voting since 1980 and I have not.

Definitely the weirdest "election" cycle that I've ever been through. Drumpf is so awful that he just *has* to be a foil for $hillary. I don't think there are "sides" in this election...just the corporate-backed mainstream candidate and a bizarre orange mannequin that is there to make the favored candidate look "good".

[8bitagent]

Can anyone deny in good faith that, whatever Trump's idiocies and evils, pretty much the full weight of the American empire's cultural wing is being used to protect the Clinton candidacy?

I have never seen anything like it. There's not even the slightest pretense of being "fair" or trying to show 2 sides of a story, or even humor ing one side a bit (because they're half the citizens of the country and therefore the viewing audience), yes indeed it is a brazen and massive conspiracy to propagandize one side into the White House.

Seriously, has anyone here ever witnessed anything remotely like this? I've been voting since 1980 and I have not.

Definitely the weirdest "election" cycle that I've ever been through. Drumpf is so awful that he just *has* to be a foil for $hillary. I don't think there are "sides" in this election...just the corporate-backed mainstream candidate and a bizarre orange mannequin that is there to make the favored candidate look "good".

This Friday, the National Archive will release over 500 photos online that show many trips Trump and Bill Clinton have taken together, to further illustrate just how close the Trumps and Clintons have been.
Been saying it all along, this is the biggest scam election ever and hardly anyone seems to be the wiser.

[backtoiam]

It is definitely a puzzle 8bit. Here is the thing that keeps bugging the living hell out of me.

In the past an enormous effort and expense was pumped into an effort to make the establishment candidate look as electable as possible and hide impropriety that could rise to the level of impeachment or prosecution. The establishment is grilling Hillary over the coals to a degree that puzzles me. This could simply be an attempt to dominate the news cycle with a controllable variable and in the end the establishment might suddenly find her innocent and start a massive cleanup campaign with another news cycle dominant theme, and even make a hero out of her somehow. Maybe they are threatening and coercing her to keep her on a leash. Bill got punished with the Monica thing and rumor is Kissinger was behind that but who knows.

Trump is framing her as a crook at every turn. If the establishment considered Trump a serious threat he would be neutralized and compromised in some fashion.

The establishment has expressed a desire to "protect the election process as if it were critical infrastructure" which would of course necessitate total control over it and Hillary is currently helping with her "Russian Hacker" routine.

Anyway, to the point, I can't shake the idea that we could have some sort of October surprise that would make an election "too dangerous and impossible" to attempt. A "Special Electoral Committee" chooses the President and the electoral process is now "protected."

I can't put my finger on it but this whole thing smells like the establishment wants to pull off some sort of big fundamental change with this election.

The electoral process is already captured by voting machines but I can't shake the feeling they have something very specific and fundamental in mind.