NASA Satellite stops on a dime!? WTF!!!

[vanlose kid]

My favourite video is of the Apollo crew when they remove a circular cut-out from their window. Previously the cut-out served to make the earth look much farther away, but now I realize it also made it look like a globe!

Wish I could find it....
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Here, from Bart Sibrel's (not a flat earther) "Something Funny Happened on the Way to the Moon".

https://youtu.be/xciCJfbTvE4?t=1922

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[vanlose kid]

Published on Sep 1, 2016

Very Compelling Proof of the Flat Earth

A note on comments: I have ZERO tolerance for drama, insults, manipulation, passive aggressive attacks, lying or deception in any form. Comments possessing any of these attributes will be deleted. And as this is my video I am the arbiter of which comments qualify for deletion. Present precise and relevant evidence if you want to challenge anything I have presented.

I will also delete all comments that attempt to draw me into any debates or arguments about other "flat earth" related topics that are not DIRECTLY covered in my video. I am focused on one thing and one thing only and that is to either validate or invalidate the evidence I have collected and presented.

If you want to argue with someone about the ISS, the southern cross, or any other "flat earth" topics please take it somewhere else. I am not interested AT ALL. I will delete challenge comments that are not directly challenging my data with countervailing data. And again as this is my video I am the arbiter of whether or not you are presenting a legitimate challenge.

Don't get me wrong. I want to be challenged. In fact I am actively looking for some piece of data that will debunk my observation. I want to see it. I want to be challenged with relevant data but I will not argue or be drawn into petty drama like I see ALL OVER flat earth video comments. I am and always have been incapable of functioning at the level arguing and drama. It's not going to happen so don't even bother trying.


And now... about me and the process of making this video and my related thoughts about it.


My love of truth and love of the pursuit of truth compelled me to conduct this experiment and produce this video.

I find the evidence I collected to be very convincing. In fact I find no way to interpret this data other than to say that it clearly supports the conclusion that the earth is flat. Yet if you were to ask me if I believe the earth is flat my answer would be “I don't know" because at this point I truly do not know what I believe. I am fully aware of what this evidence is pointing to and yet my mind seems unable to firmly settle on the belief that the earth is flat. Maybe this is due to a lifetime of being told that I live on a globe flying through space.

As of now, the day I will upload this video, I am in still in a state of suspense not knowing what to believe. I do trust my own eyes and the evidence I collected but I want more. If I had one wish relating to flat earth it would be that fifty replications of this test be carried out by fifty different individuals or groups of people around the world and that the corresponding fifty videos be produced and uploaded onto Youtube presenting the evidence collected.

And I wouldn’t stop there. I’d wish for new tests to be developed that were easy to understand, concise, and conclusive methods of measuring the shape of the surface of the earth. These new tests would also be carried out by individuals or groups of people around the world and the corresponding videos would also be produced and uploaded onto Youtube presenting the evidence collected.

If I could see many repeats of the test I conducted as well as the presentations of many other tests and all of them clearly pointed to the exact same conclusion that my test points to then maybe my mind would feel comfortable enough to settle on the belief that the earth is flat.

I think what I’m trying to say is I’m not really interested in a belief system. I’m not interested in proof that takes me ninety nine percent of the way there and then it’s up to me to make that last one percent leap of faith or belief. I want one hundred percent irrefutable proof so I do not have to adopt a new belief system. I want to know. Maybe that’s not possible. Maybe the evidence I collected and presented in this video is enough proof. I’m not sure. As of now I really don’t know what to believe.

But I do know that this evidence very clearly and without hesitation points to the conclusion that the earth is flat.

Is it?

Could this actually be true?

One thing I do feel confident of is that the earth is indeed the shape that it is right now at this very moment. And to the best of our knowledge it will be this same shape tomorrow and even a hundred years from now. As this is the case it can be measured and human beings can prove conclusively the shape of the earth. We have the tools of measurement and the tools to record and present our findings. The shape of the earth can be proven conclusively and shared in an easy to understand and intuitive way that most every person can grasp. I have absolutely no doubt about this. And this can be done by ordinary people. We don’t need a government to do this for us. The technology that is available to each and every one of us today makes this entirely possible. All that is required is the will to do so.

Do we have the will to do this?

Do we really want to know?

I think I do.

[Jon McIntyre]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPDtMQqlprk&t=0s


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[vanlose kid]

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[maco144]

I dont expect any of you to be able to recognize CGI passed as real. The ISS doesn't exist and is a hoax to perpetrate the globe. There are plenty of videos with the space actors caught in front of green screens and video artifacts that clearly show layering.

You still haven't explained why. Why are they fooling us into thinking we live on a sphere. What's in it for them, and who are they? What's the point?

This question eventually comes up and my interpretation of the questioner is they show a real lack of critical thinking and imagination coupled with severe cognitive dissonance. Before you read my thoughts on it you should really be attempting to answer it yourself.

If the Earth is flat and the universe geocentric immediately all mainstream science, religions and governments become untrustworthy and if the people are intelligent, disbanded. Each human immediately realizes that the big bang, cosmology, and evolution are all fraudulent while astrology has merit. We are no longer here by impossible chance but by design. Efforts to explore beyond Antarctica becomes a worldwide mission as is reclaiming the knowledge of our true history. How is that for just a start if you and others took the time to figure this out?

[maco144]

You still haven't explained why. Why are they fooling us into thinking we live on a sphere. What's in it for them, and who are they? What's the point?

^^Quite.

And you haven't answered these questions either, maco:

Flat earth clearly implies geocentric universe therefor Earth is different than what's in the heavens.

Right, thanks. The fog is clearing. So, in your cosmological model, the earth is a Unique Giant Quiche surrounded by lots of little spinning gobstoppers (NB: not other quiches).

[...]

So, next questions:

1. What happens when an airplane attempts to fly over the edge of the quiche?

2. What's to stop the pilot taking photos of the underside?

It's because they're dumb questions. There is no edge and we don't know what lies beyond Antarctica. How does one get to the underside of a plane that we dont know where it ends? It is only in the ridiculous globe model that one can fly to the underside of something and still be upright.

[maco144]

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Great video!! Let's see how many rigorous members have an hour to give watching a video.

So this video proves a section of the Earth is flat. Kansas and the Salar de Uyuni are two other places where this is conclusively shown as well.

[Belligerent Savant]

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hmmm... no smarmy comments of late.

Perhaps this will help:

Title:
Gleason's new standard map of the world : on the projection of J. S. Christopher, Modern College, Blackheath, England ; scientifically and practically correct; as "it is."
Title (alt.):
New standard map of the world
Creator:
Buffalo Electrotype and Engraving Co
Date:
1892
Format:
Maps/Atlases
Location:
Boston Public Library
Norman B. Leventhal Map Center

[OP ED]

Nobody ever answers my questions.

[82_28]

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Great video!! Let's see how many rigorous members have an hour to give watching a video.

So this video proves a section of the Earth is flat. Kansas and the Salar de Uyuni are two other places where this is conclusively shown as well.

Dude! I already showed you an example of the curvature of the Earth from (basically) Kansas. Eastern Colorado gives way to the Rockies and is just as flat as Kansas. You have yet to answer where the rest of the mountain range is. Below the horizon is your answer.

[tazmic]

My favourite video is of the Apollo crew when they remove a circular cut-out from their window. Previously the cut-out served to make the earth look much farther away, but now I realize it also made it look like a globe!

Wish I could find it....
​

Here, from Bart Sibrel's (not a flat earther) "Something Funny Happened on the Way to the Moon".

https://youtu.be/xciCJfbTvE4?t=1922

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Thanks Vanlose, I really appreciate it. Well made doc too.

Now I want to watch Capricorn One again:

[maco144]

Dude! I already showed you an example of the curvature of the Earth from (basically) Kansas. Eastern Colorado gives way to the Rockies and is just as flat as Kansas. You have yet to answer where the rest of the mountain range is. Below the horizon is your answer.

Here you go rehashing and goal shifting to a point that has already been covered. In your own words you've stated the the eastern most mountain in a range is most visible and then when you get closer west to the entire range & downtown become visible. You claim this is only possible due to curvature when a more probable explanation is due to perspective.

Now, without changing to another topic - what is your response to a video the demonstrates clearly that part of the earth is flat?

[maco144]

http://www.neatorama.com/2012/05/29/kansas-is-flatter-than-a-pancake/

400 miles flatter than a pancake. Where is the supposed curvature?

[82_28]

OK. Now define what you think "perspective" means. I'm "changing goals"? Actually no, no I'm not. The entire front range of the Rocky Mountains is covered in mountains just as high. Where are they before the Earth's curvature reveals them? Answer that. Great. Thanks in advance. Point out where Mt. Evans is in the photo. Point out Long's Peak too. On a flat Earth they would also be there too right? Mt. Evans rises high above Denver as it's the main mountain you see if you were there. You're pointed towards Denver there by the way.

[smoking since 1879]

Dude! I already showed you an example of the curvature of the Earth from (basically) Kansas. Eastern Colorado gives way to the Rockies and is just as flat as Kansas. You have yet to answer where the rest of the mountain range is. Below the horizon is your answer.

Here you go rehashing and goal shifting to a point that has already been covered. In your own words you've stated the the eastern most mountain in a range is most visible and then when you get closer west to the entire range & downtown become visible. You claim this is only possible due to curvature when a more probable explanation is due to perspective.

Now, without changing to another topic - what is your response to a video the demonstrates clearly that part of the earth is flat?

"You claim this is only possible due to curvature when a more probable explanation is due to perspective."

so what kind of selective perspective do you subscribe to maco?

[82_28]

I will also add that it is not "changing goals" but the correct metaphor is "moving the goal posts".