Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

[backtoiam]

This guy is starting to show up on the web now as her possible handler and doctor.

UPDATE (August 9, 2016):

Burly Black Man is most likely Oladotun Okunola, M.D., of the Neuroscience Center of Northern New Jersey, who specializes in epilepsy. The picture in his profile shows a man who, although younger and thinner, has the same facial features as Burly Black Man.



https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2016/0 ... -seizures/

Whoever it is he follows her with that auto injector like a puppy.
https://youtu.be/P4ey6XE775A





This is what she supposedly has. I guess we will have to wait and see if it grabs traction.

Oropharyngeal cancer is a disease in which malignant cells form in the tissue of oropharynx. The oropharynx is the middle part of the throat that includes the base of the tongue, the tonsils, the soft palate, and the walls of the pharynx.[1] Oropharyngeal cancers can be divided into two types, HPV-positive, which are related to human papillomavirus infection, and HPV-negative cancers, which are usually linked to alcohol or tobacco use.[2]

[Searcher08]

Wondering whether you have come across any interest in your circles, Luther, in dialog / conversation between the Jill Stein and Gary Johnson groups?

I have seen a little bit of this in Green social media groups, but for the most part I would say characterize Greens as diametrically opposed to libertarianism.

I would have thought this was obvious. The only thing they have in common is the belief that they could do a better job than the status quo.

@Luther
Thank you

@Rory
I disagree.

I was curious because there used to be a lot of conversation between the Ron Paul pre-Tea Party folks and the Dennis Kucinich tribe, but from what I have seen, both those sets of people seem to have polarised along Trump / Clinton lines.

I think there is potentially a lot of common ground, perhaps through a neo-Georgism approach.

[backtoiam]

I'm 50/50 on the cancer rumor but I might post something else I found on that too. If what I found is legit I would boost the odds up to 90%.

After reading this it makes me wonder about her heart. Congestive heart failure can make a person cough. A dry, persistent cough can also be a side effect of some medicines used in heart failure.

Hillary's Health Concerns Serious, Say Most Doctors Polled by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS)

TUCSON, Ariz., Sept. 8, 2016 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Concerns about Hillary Clinton's health are "serious—could be disqualifying for the position of President of the U.S.," say nearly 71% of 250 physicians responding to an informal internet survey by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS). About 20% said concerns were "likely overblown, but should be addressed as by full release of medical records." Only 2.7% responded that they were "just a political attack; I have confidence in the letter from her physician and see no cause for concern."

While more than 81% were aware of her history of a concussion, only 59% were aware of the cerebral sinus thrombosis, and 52% of the history of deep venous thrombosis.

More than 78% said the health concerns had received "not enough emphasis" in the media, and only 2.7% that there had been "too much emphasis."

Nearly two-thirds said that a physician who had a concern about a candidate's fitness to serve for health reasons should "make the concerns known to the public." Only 11% said a physician should "keep silent unless he had personally examined the patient," and 10% that the candidate's health was "off limits for public discussion."

Eighty-eight respondents submitted comments. One said that "the public interest will ALWAYS override either privacy rights or rights of self-determination in the case of a presidential candidate." Another mentioned Clinton's "so called loss of memory claimed during her FBI questioning about her email server." Beyond the specific questions, one remarked that "I think that the candidate should be honest with the public about his/her health!" The history of the concussion was concerning: "The public must watch the movie Concussion to realize that such an injury does affect thought process."

A poll of 833 randomly selected registered voters by Gravis Marketing showed that nearly half (49%) were not aware of the "well documented major health issues that Hillary Clinton has." Nearly three-fourths (74%) were unaware of Bill Clinton's statement that Hillary suffered a "terrible" concussion requiring "six months of very serious work to get over." The majority (57%) thought that candidates should release their medical records.

"Both physicians and other voters think that health concerns are relevant when choosing a presidential candidate," states AAPS executive director Jane M. Orient, M.D. "However, more than 40% of physician respondents were unaware of the cerebral sinus thrombosis, and the vast majority of voters were not aware of all of Clinton's problems or their potential serious long-term implications for cognitive function."

The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) is a national organization representing physicians in virtually all specialties and every state. Founded in 1943, AAPS has the motto "omnia pro aegroto," which means "all for the patient."



SOURCE Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS)

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases ... 25065.html

[82_28]

Yeah. If it's not a productive cough it is a sign of cancer. I'm a smoker and productivity is the whole thing. Believe it or not, it's why I don't get sick. I haven't been sick in decades. Reason being is that I cough it all out and spit. It is said that germs and radioactive particles wedge themselves in mucus as opposed to tissue. Gross, I know. But again I haven't been sick. All the non-smokers around me would get sick but I wouldn't. I'd just cough up a lung while they were battling fevers, coughs and all that.

Clinton coughing though is dry and thus I look at it as possibly feigned for effect.

I also have another theory which is way way out there, but she is being "coached by" Bill. Remember how he had horrible hoarseness but could blast the sax? Maybe it's a technique of "hey it worked" for me. Maybe. Just maybe it's fake.

But I do not know. Just some ideas. . .

[backtoiam]

I go back and forth on whether I think its fake or not. I strongly suspected fakery until last night and now i'm thinking she is probably really sick. If she is faking this is one hell of a good snow job catheter hose and all.

One thing that puzzles me is why the big dude carries that auto injector in his hand all the time. Why doesn't he just keep it in his pocket? He keeps it in his hand like he might need to stick her any split second and that is not necessary. That man has pockets. He could just keep it in his pocket. That makes me suspicious that they want that auto injector visible for dramatic effect.

Its hard being as cynical as we are. We never know if we really see what we obviously see. I have every reason to believe she is damn near knocking on death's door after all I saw last night, but I still have twinges of doubt.

If she is faking my best guess as to why would be to gain sympathy or disrupt the election with disrupting the election being most likely.

[Luther Blissett]

Wondering whether you have come across any interest in your circles, Luther, in dialog / conversation between the Jill Stein and Gary Johnson groups?

I have seen a little bit of this in Green social media groups, but for the most part I would say characterize Greens as diametrically opposed to libertarianism.

I would have thought this was obvious. The only thing they have in common is the belief that they could do a better job than the status quo.

@Luther
Thank you

@Rory
I disagree.

I was curious because there used to be a lot of conversation between the Ron Paul pre-Tea Party folks and the Dennis Kucinich tribe, but from what I have seen, both those sets of people seem to have polarised along Trump / Clinton lines.

I think there is potentially a lot of common ground, perhaps through a neo-Georgism approach.

I'm not sure what you mean but that might be my perspective considering Clinton "right of center" and almost all fellow Stein supporters being very anti-Clinton (anti-neo-conservatism).

There was that survey a couple of years ago demonstrating how a great percentage of libertarians polled do not know the basic tenets of libertarianism, wanting government intrusion against women's rights, marriage equality, and are very much for military aggression. So it may just be that modern libertarians are not the same as those of a decade ago.

[seemslikeadream]

http://www.snopes.com/julian-assange-be ... hreatened/

Bernie Sandbagged
Claims that Bernie Sanders was threatened to drop out of the presidential race originated with a fabricated Julian Assange interview.
Kim LaCapria



CLAIM: WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange said Bernie Sanders was threatened to drop out of the presidential race.

FALSE
EXAMPLE: [Collected via e-mail and Twitter, September 2016]

Rumor flying about that "Julian Assange says Bernie Sanders was threatened to make him drop out" I find it doubtful but is flying about and should be stopped if untrue.


ORIGIN:On 29 August 2016, the unreliable web site USA Supreme published an item claiming that WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange told journalist John Pilger that Bernie Sanders won the Democratic presidential nomination but dropped out of the race after he was threatened.

That claim was aggregated to a number of questionable web sites and rocketed to the top of Facebook's trending topics list on 9 September 2016. However, all iterations of the claim traced back to the original USA Supreme article, which stated:

John Pilger made an interview with Assange and is planning to use this material for his next documentary about Wikileaks founder! We gonna report with every major info from this interview in the nex few days! You can read the first part of the interview in a link below!

Pilger: Julian, we cut you off earlier when you were talking about what you felt were the most significant emails that you have released. Is there any last one that you’d like to mention? And also, do you have any thoughts on Bernie Sanders? I mean what is your opinion why Bernie Sanders drop out of the race?

Assange: Look, I think — you know, we know how politics works in the United States. Whoever — whatever political party gets into government is going to merge with the bureaucracy pretty damn fast. It will be in a position where it has some levers in its hand. And Bernie Sanders was independent candidate trying to get the nomination trough the Democratic Party and if you ask me he did get the nomination, but he was threatened to drop out!

Pilger: What do you mean by that will your next leak contain information about Bernie Sanders?

Assange: Of course we’re very interested in revealing the truth about any candidate and yes we have some material about Bernie Sanders that will be published!

Assange isn’t focusing entirely on Clinton however, urging anyone with information on Bernie Sanders to come forward!

Although multiple articles had repeated this claim as of 9 September 2016, we found no other appearance of the alleged quote anywhere online other than USA Supreme as of 30 August 2016. Moreover, USA Supreme provided no information pertaining to the date of the interview, no link to the interview itself, nor an explanation of how they supposedly came into possession of information that would be headline news had it been credible.

Neither Pilger nor WikiLeaks made any reference on Twitter (through which Assange frequently communicates) to the "bombshell" claim. Pilger did mention Sanders by name on his official web site on 23 August 2016, but he made no reference to his presumably newsworthy interview with Assange:

In America, the problem for the thousands of followers of Bernie Sanders was the Democratic Party, not to mention their ultimate betrayal by their great white hope. In the US, home of the great civil rights and anti-war movements, it is Black Lives Matter and the likes of Codepink that lay the roots of a modern version.

Another massive red flag in the original item was that the words attributed to Pilger indeed stemmed from an interview with Assange conducted back late July 2016 (shortly after the DNC leaks controversy), but those words were spoken by Democracy Now!'s Amy Goodman, not by Pilger:

Finally, Julian, we cut you off earlier when you were talking about what you felt were the most significant emails that you have released. Is there any last one that you’d like to mention? And also, do you have any thoughts on Donald Trump? I mean, just before we went to air, a CNN poll came out that says Donald Trump is ahead by 5 percentage points of Hillary Clinton. Now, he did just come off of the Republican convention, but many called it the worst convention in history, so it’s not automatic that he should have had this percentage lead. Of course, though, you have the crisis, the disarray, the Democratic Party is in because of these emails that you’ve released.

What Assange actually said in response to that query in no way resembled a claim that Sanders had been threatened to drop out of the race:

Look, I think — you know, we know how politics works in the United States. Whoever — whatever political party gets into government is going to merge with the bureaucracy pretty damn fast. It will be in a position where it has some levers in its hand. And so, as a result, corporate lobbyists will move in to help control those levers. So it doesn’t make much difference in the end. What does make a difference is political accountability, a general deterrence set to stop political organizations behaving in a corrupt manner. That can make a difference, because that changes the perception of what you can do or not do. And so, always — well, almost always, you should choose the principled position, which is to set a disciplinary signal about acting in a corrupt way, and take a philosophical position, which is our institutions can only be as good as our understanding of our institutions.

The other top emails, well, as I said, I think this instruction by Luis Miranda, the head of communications, to go out and covertly spread anti-Bernie Sanders propaganda is a clear instruction combined with a chain of command. It’s not simply expressing a sentiment. It is expressing an instruction within the DNC to subvert the Bernie Sanders campaign.

Then there’s a lot of emails about the close relationship between the DNC and the media — The Washington Post involved in a co-fundraising party, an off-list co-fundraising for the DNC, calling up MSNBC during the middle of a program and saying, "Pull that segment now," Debbie Wasserman Schultz calling up the president of MSNBC in order to discipline Morning Joe, etc. That’s, you know, of course, something that we’ve all suspected happens, but this is concrete proof of it.

Interview questions and answers attributed to Pilger and Assange on 29 August 2016 by USA Supreme matched much of Goodman's 25 July 2016 interview with the WikiLeaks' founder, and verbatim repetition of the very same queries and responses in a separate setting is highly implausible. Moveover, prior to starting the rumor that Julian Assange had proclaimed Bernie Sanders was threatened, USA Supreme similarly falsely attributed remarks made by Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren to Hawaii Representative Tulsi Gabbard.

ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED: 09 September 2016

[DrEvil]

backtoiam wrote:
Would you be worried if you had to drive through this on a regular basis?

Would you be worried if your country was being bombed to shit?

I see young people doing stupid shit because they're desperate and frustrated, you see scary dark people.

[backtoiam]

backtoiam wrote:
Would you be worried if you had to drive through this on a regular basis?

Would you be worried if your country was being bombed to shit?

I see young people doing stupid shit because they're desperate and frustrated, you see scary dark people.

Would you be worried if your country was being bombed to shit?

Yes. I have expressed my disgust for these bombings many times.

I see young people doing stupid shit because they're desperate and frustrated, you see scary dark people.

Nope. These are not young people playing on the side of the road throwing something harmless like water balloons at cars and that is obvious. What they are doing is incredibly dangerous to motorists and they almost killed some journalists.

I like brown and black people. I agree they are desperate and frustrated.

These are grown men throwing sticks, bricks, rocks, logs, and any other solid objects they can find. They are erecting barricades and climbing in the windows and in the back of trucks.

Would you be worried if you had to drive through there everyday on your way to the port if you worked at the port?

[Wombaticus Rex]

Its hard being as cynical as we are.

Best laugh I've had all week, thank you.

You could do with a bit more cynicism, given the stuff you post here.

A great deal more cynicism.

[backtoiam]

Wombat this is nothing but a big game of Clue to me to stave off the boredom. I just like looking under the rugs trying to figure out what will happen next. I don't care who the rug belongs to I just enjoy the hunt. I just enjoy searching for patterns and attempting to connect the dots. I think its fun. The thing that makes it a drag for me is the ideological part of it because so many people assume an agenda.

When Bush was President I spear fished him just like I do the democrats. The main thing that was different when I spear fished the Republicans was the rhetoric of the gate keepers. When a Democrat is President the gate keepers lean heavily on racism and fling the race accusation. Digging the dirt out from under the Republican rugs sort of eliminates being called a racist so they switch to things like paranoid lunatic, crack pot, etc...Its probably easier being a gate keeper when the Democrats are in the wheel house because calling somebody a racist is always easy cannon fodder.

I simply enjoy the hunt for clues and that is why I do this.

[backtoiam]

Take this for instance. Right now I'm wondering if this is a defibrillator vest out of sheer boredom and it gives me something to do attempting to figure it out. If it were Trump I would be digging in his dirt bag too and I will if the orange one becomes President. I do this for fun.

Horizontally I think its too big to simply be her microphone package and look at that feed bag of a dress she is wearing. These huge clothes she is wearing, along with other clues I am finding, is suggestive that she is carrying some health gear under those clothes.

Am I right? I'm not sure yet but I enjoy the hunt.

[Cordelia]

Wombat this is nothing but a big game of Clue to me to stave off the boredom. I just like looking under the rugs trying to figure out what will happen next. I don't care who the rug belongs to I just enjoy the hunt. I just enjoy searching for patterns and attempting to connect the dots. I think its fun.

I simply enjoy the hunt for clues and that is why I do this.

I would have guessed 'Monopoly' your favorite game, but if you're just bored and looking for fun, you might give this a shot (please)......

"Sleuth is a series of open-ended, detective role playing games (RPG) where you solve mysteries by searching for clues, questioning suspects and interviewing witnesses. Every mystery is unique with different victims, suspects and clues. "

http://www.playsleuth.com/

[Blue]

I do not support Hillary in any way but a lot of this crap is pretty unrigorous.

http://www.snopes.com/clintons-secret-service-agent-holds-diazepam-pen/

Fringe web sites such as the Ralph Retort the Conservative Treehouse and the Last Refuge have attempted to legitimize the "doctor angle" by asserting that Clinton's attendant might have been identified as Dr. Oladotun Okunola, such as when The Ralph Retort offered a confusing headline — "REPORT: CLINTON’S HANDLER IDENTIFIED as Neurologist Dr. Oladotun Okunola?" — that purposefully misled readers by emphasizing the salacious (but untrue) words "CLINTON'S HANDLER IDENTIFIED" then returning to lower case before inserting a skeptical question mark.



A photographic comparison of Dr. Okunola and Clinton's attendant, however, reveals that they bear little resemblance to each other and are in fact two separate people:

comparison
Hillary Clinton's handler is clealy not Dr. Oladotun Okunola, but is he a different doctor being explained away as a Secret Service agent? The evidence here is also pretty flimsy. The only real "evidence" offered for that hypothesis is a photograph of the agent's supposed "medic" lapel pin, but the image is too blurry to positively identify it. However, a side-by-side comparison of the agent's pin and a "medic" pin shows that they are not the same:



The physician assistant pin is round (the agent's pin is not), has a black border (the agent's pin does not) and has a gold emblem in the center (the agent's pin does not). The agent's pin is most likely a red Secret Service pin, similar to the one pictured below:



Furthermore, the "doctor" accompanying Hillary Clinton does not always wear the pin in question. Secret Service agents sometimes wear matching lapel pins at large events to help identify one another, but those lapel pins are frequently changed:

There can be as many as 10 different types of credentials for events. At the Centennial Olympics in Atlanta — where we supervised 250 event and entertained President Bill Clinton and a host of celebrities from Arnold Schwarzenegger to Muhammad Ali over a 30-day period in the Olympic Village — our extensive security plan included eight credentials ranging from lapel pins for the Secret Service to thermal hand-screening for athletes and employees with access into the residential area of the athletes' village.

The photograph below shows the agent wearing another pin, likely one commemorating the 150th anniversary of the Secret Service in 2015:


Other web sites offered "proof" that the pictured man was not a Secret Service agent by maintaining that the Secret Service do not wear clearance badges:

If he was Secret Service, he wouldn’t be wearing a security clearance like that.

However, both the Democratic National Convention and Republican National Convention were classified as National Special Security Events (NSSE), which require special credentialing:

The USSS’s Major Events Division (MED) is responsible for NSSE planning and coordinates with other USSS headquarters and field offices. Some of the coordination includes advance planning and liaison for venue and air space security, training, communications, and security credentialing.

NSSE operational plans include the use of physical infrastructure security fencing, barricades, special access accreditation badges, K-9 teams, and other security technologies.

Of course, the "smoking gun" to this theory is that the agent has purportedly been pictured carrying a Diazepam pen used to treat seizures:

Again, this image is too blurry to positively identify the object in the agent's hand. However, a video of the agent using the above-pictured object shows that it is being used like a flashlight and not a Diazepam pen:

https://youtu.be/P4ey6XE775A

[backtoiam]

blue

I do not support Hillary in any way but a lot of this crap is pretty unrigorous.

Blue I am afraid you got Snoped old buddy.

I can assure you I have put more rigor into this than I care to admit. A shameful amount actually. I have just been too lazy to get really specific but check this out.

Snopes mentioned two things I agree with. The "medic lapel pin" was dumb because the pictures were too blurry to identify what the pin was. Snopes also wonders why he is carrying the Diazepam injector in plain sight and so do I and it bugs me.

We still don't really know if that guy with her is a doctor or not. He could be a doctor and a secret service agent which would not be unusual or strange.

However, there is a perfectly good reason why this guy is holding this Chemprotect Diazepam Injector like a Chemprotect Diazepam Injector and the reason is because it is one and I will show you a detail that will allow you to identify it.

Hillary Clinton has repetitive and recurring acute seizures and Diazepam is used for that.



Ignore that little dotted line from his hand to the pull ring. Somebody that does not understand how this pen works did that I guess. They have it backwards just ignore it.

His fingers touch and make a circle. Look in the circle just behind his pointing finger. See that white line right beside his pointing finger inside the circle? That is the same white line you see on the pen that says Diazepam. You can see the white line inside the circle and his fingers are on the bevel so he can squeeze it and keep his fingers from sliding. That bevel is where the fingers go to maintain a grip on the pen and keep the fingers from sliding. When you squeeze your hand the back plunges in and administers a dose.

Snopes said it was a flashlight because he switched hands with it in the video they used and the video ended at a point that would reasonably seem as if he was preparing to light a dark doorway to aid her exit from the room. Not true and I will show you. The video Snopes used is a few seconds too short.

Snopes video.

https://youtu.be/P4ey6XE775A




Same video with a few more seconds added. You can plainly see he didn't use it as a flashlight to light her way out. He holds it in his right hand at the ready in inject mode then he switches hands, holds his arm out to make sure that guy chasing balloons doesn't bump into to her and knock her down and she goes out.

https://youtu.be/jXCWS7m06bE



We have now established that the Snopes video was a few seconds too short and is not what it was reported to be. It was not a flashlight. It is a Diazepam injector. That is what it is.

There is one thing that still seriously bugs me about that injector. The Clinton team and the media 'seem' to be working hard to keep her health problems hidden. If they are truly working so hard to keep her health problems hidden why do they allow him to follow her all over the place with a Diazepam injector in his hand and be filmed in public like this? Why doesn't he keep it in his pocket? That makes no sense but for now I still think it is an injector.

It is always possible that we are watching a charade of Oscar award proportions to create an illusion of serious illness. If that is the case they have pulled out all the stops and they are doing a seriously good job of it. If it turns out to be a ruse I will just have to eat it and admit I have been fooled. Dr. Drew and Greta both lost their jobs. Supposedly it was for talking about Hillary's health unless that is part of a script too.

Right now I don't think I am getting fooled so I will share my observations.

I believe that is an injector pen. The fact that he is parading around with it like a show pony bugs me, it really bugs me.

I feel pretty comfortable that she is also wearing a colostomy bag. That is why she wears the baggy clothes. The source of the hose I showed you that runs from her crotch to her knee is a Foley Catheter for urine collection. In one of the pictures I showed you, you can see that it goes straight to her crotch. That hose collects urine and deposits it in a bag on her knee and is not attached to the colostomy bag. It is a Foley Catheter.

This is also why she sits sideways and leans on her side against the back of a chair preferably with a pillow supporting her back if possible. She is hauling a colostomy bag around on her stomach and wearing a Foley and I can assure you none of that is comfortable by any stretch of the imagination. If you have ever had a Foley you won't forget it.

While i'm here I will show you something else I noticed. I noticed she seems to be triggered by sudden outbursts of noise. I searched around on that and somebody else seems to have noticed the same thing. When she is on stage watch how she smacks her lips together. The lip smacking is listed in the symptoms below, as is stopping suddenly in the middle of speech which you will see, staring blankly into space, and being absent for a short period. All these are listed below as symptoms of "absence seizures" also known as "petit mal" seizures.

I am not endorsing what the video below says about alcoholism because there is no way I can know what Hillary told her daughter or if she is a heavy drinker but the rest of it seems to fit. I am also not endorsing his claim that his video is irrefutable because I don't think it is, but when I searched noise triggers I found his video and he noticed the noise trigger too and his video is handy to use.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_8AO5MDBEw



These three girls seemingly instantly trigger her because they all three burst out loudly asking questions at the same time. This crowd behind the stage suddenly bursts out and seemingly triggers her also. How often do you see secret service scramble around on stage like that because the crowd made noise? You don't. And lets face it, she is not known to adore the secret service, to put it mildly, and i'm sure she doesn't want them touching her.

Anytime she goes in front of a large crowd in a confined environment she is running a risk of getting a burst of noise and having a seizure.

This could also be why she has been shown in very small venu areas with small controlled crowds so that she does not get a burst of noise and seize out?

To me they look like what is known as absence seizures also known as petit mal seizures. They are typically associated with children with epilepsy but can also occur in adults.

Absence seizures most commonly affect children from 5 to 9 years old. They can also occur in adults. Children with epilepsy may experience both absence and grand mal seizures. Grand mal seizures last longer and have more intense symptoms.

The signs of an absence seizure include:

staring off into space
smacking the lips together
fluttering eyelids
stopping speech in the middle of a sentence
making sudden hand movements
leaning forward or backward
appearing suddenly motionless