Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

[backtoiam]

Conclusion: More pseudo-science confirmation bias conspiratainment until and unless real evidence emerges of what Hillary's health problems are, assuming it's not the pneumonia/dehydration/exhaustion story being sold to the msm.

Why? The doctor in the video showed you a patient in severe stress that was suddenly in control of himself when he looked through the lenses. You yourself just posted an account from someone who says it works for them too. If it works it works and I don't understand why you consider it "conspiratainment."

I never claimed there was any peer reviewed studies or anything else. It is a phenomenon I certainly don't understand. I don't understand people that wait for "science" to tell them something works when it works. I never have and I never will.

I have seen things in the medical industry nobody can explain because "studies" were not done on it but it worked. Baffled the doctors and me both.

I never claimed Hillary was using them for Parkinsons. I threw it in the basket as a clue for people to make of it what they will. Don't tell those people it works for to stop because some scientists has not declared that it works because they won't believe you. I don't need some pocket pencil holder geek to tell me when something works if it does.

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting on big pharma's scientists to fund a study either because its too cheap, too easy, and make no big money and there is nothing pharma hates worse than that. As a matter of fact I am waiting on Snopes to get paid big money by pharma to say its all a scam.

I worked in that blood sucking industry full of vampires and I know how they think. Your street level doctors are not the vampires, the vampires are at the top of the medical pyramid and they often hire other blood sucking vampires called corrupt scientists to help them extract their blood. This is not an indictment of scientists either because most scientists are good people, but not all of em.

[mentalgongfu2]

The Conspiratainment is the conclusion that these anecdotes are evidence Hillary Clinon has Parkinson's and is wearing blue glasses to reduce the symptoms.

The alleged doctor in the video used a clip that appears to show a patient improving as a result of wearing glasses. Who is this patient and what were the circumstances of the video? That info is essential in determining validity, but the doc doesn't present it because he doesn't know; he just linked to a video on YouTube that supports his conclusion.

I never claimed there was any peer reviewed studies or anything else. It is a phenomenon I certainly don't understand. I don't understand people that wait for "science" to tell them something works when it works. I never have and I never will.

1) controlled studies and evidence are what separate penicillin from Dr. Mentalgongfu's Miracle Cure 2) I never said you said that. But you cite people using this blue glasses thing as incontrovertible proof of Hillary's "real" diagnosis

I never claimed Hillary was using them for Parkinsons. I threw it in the basket as a clue for people to make of it what they will.

A basket of deplorables?
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But seriously, you posted a video of someone who made that exact conclusion in a thread about Hillary Clinton. I'm pretty sure the connection is implied. I specifically limited my post to the medical aspect as I don't want to get in a pissing match, but since you've already opened the door, I'll second SLAD's exhortation to step back from the Alex Jonesey bullshit, please. All intuition and no rigor makes Jack a gullible tool.

[8bitagent]

ahahaha.....warcriminal Iraq war co-engineer and My Lai masacre cleaner Colin Powell furious his secret instructions to Hillary in hiding her intel server farm have gone viral
https://theintercept.com/2016/09/13/col ... ll-emails/

Meanwhile, the Clinton's main body man secret service agent from 1991 to 2003 has come out saying something is seriously wrong health wise with Hillary
http://ijr.com/opinion/2016/09/260018-p ... ing-video/

Obama, Biden, zombie rapist Bill Clinton and certainly not goofy idiot Tim Kaine can save Hillary's hindenburg bid these days. But Im sure the globalist powers that be have many backup plans...none of which includes putting up an actual decent human being(AKA Bernie Sanders) At this point, almost excited to see Clinton lose

[8bitagent]

I don't have a horse in this race, but she is clearly ill and/or temperamentally vulnerable to conditions outside of her physical control.

I know this aint the Zapruder film, but both shins clearly lay parallel with the ground(meaning she completely lost consciousness in her collapse) All her surrogates and campaign claims she never lost consciousness, and didn't even faint.

This is how you lose elections. We know the bar is beyond low for Donald, but the average non pol following joe schmoe sees Hillary as going out of her way to be untrustworthy and reshape the truth. Beyond what they perceive politicians to do. Dilbert's Scott Adams I feel in his daily blog has been spot on about how it's looking likely Donald Trump could pull this off, as much as people don't want to hear that

[backtoiam]

I thought you were saying the blue lens thing couldn't work and it was conspiratainment. My bad.

But you cite people using this blue glasses thing as incontrovertible proof of Hillary's "real" diagnosis

No, no I didn't, and I never said it was proof. Its a bread crumb on a trail. I myself don't know for sure if she has Parkinsons and I am not saying that she does. It certainly appears as if she may but we don't know.

But seriously, you posted a video of someone who made that exact conclusion in a thread about Hillary Clinton. I'm pretty sure the connection is implied.

Yes I did. That doctor gave his opinion on her condition. He is only one doctor and we can't take his opinion all by itself. I am trusting that readers are smart enough to know that. If you search online there are other doctors who are thinking the same thing.

Hillary's doctor said she just has pneumonia and she is fine. This I don't believe due to the neurological symptoms Hillary has displayed.

They are bread crumbs on a trail and nothing more. I have made no declarative statements one way or another about exactly what she has.

[Nordic]

I'm amazed how so many people think that the Hillary who emerged from Chelsea's apartment hours later was an imposter.

[backtoiam]

Its the weight difference. Its very noticeable and rather dramatic. It seems to have happened in an incredibly short amount of time. Almost too short to be possible. A lot of world leaders and politicians have used political decoys so people are wondering. I don't know one way or the other but nothing these people do would surprise me, especially her. It wouldn't surprise me if she died and they are playing for time so they can sabotage Trump before they announce her death. And NO i'm not saying that is what happened but like I said these people could never do anything that would surprise me, ever.
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Secret Service totally broke protocol is another thing people are noticing. When she came out of there they didn't follow her out. Where were they? Were they still inside? Why? These are valid questions. They broke protocol. Or did they? Protocol says under these conditions she goes straight to a specified hospital depending upon what the malady is. Period. No discussion.

I suspect they did exactly what they were supposed to do too. "Chelseas apartment" used to be a hospital. Since they took her there, if they followed protocol, it stands to reason there is a damn good chance there is a private medical facility in that place and it used to be a hospital so its plumbed for it and ready to go.

I'm not saying it was a body double but these questions intrigue me.

If this guy is legit notice how he explains the secret service actions. These people are like robots and they follow protocol. They took her her to a defunct hospital. They didn't follow her out or surround her and she is vulnerable. It raises questions. Pretty simple to me.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-1 ... -scares-me

[Luther Blissett]

I've only seen one still photo showing Clinton wearing blue-tinted sunglasses. It would be one thing if she were known to wear them at all times.

[mentalgongfu2]

Backtoiam, I don't want to belabor this, but for the record I want to clear up a miscommunication - I'm not saying you claimed the blue glasses were incontrovertible proof, only that the person in your video (and others elsewhere in the same right-wing sphere) are claiming exactly that. And while I do find it interesting, I am repulsed and repelled by those who use such flimsy evidence to deliver firm conclusions without caveat, as many are doing at ZH and other right-leaning sites are doing. Such lack of nuance badjackets everyone in the conspiracy/deep politics field and betrays intellectual laziness. I'll admit I'm especially bothered as a former journalist when websites and personalities that make their name by calling out the MSM for regurgitating unsubstatiated bullshit as fact then proceed to hypocritically promote a bunch of unsubstantiated bullshit as fact whenever it suits their preferred narrative.

All that said, something is obviously wrong with HRC, and I would be surprised if it were as simple as the official story of pneumonia. Interesting how the right wing has run full speed with the Parkinson's belief while the MSM is repeating the official line, both sides adamant that the other is cuckoo or corrupt, though this speaks more to our current media and intellectual landscape rather than the facts of this case.

[82_28]

I've only seen one still photo showing Clinton wearing blue-tinted sunglasses. It would be one thing if she were known to wear them at all times.

I will say there is that photo of her the media always show of Clinton on her cellphone wearing sunglasses indoors. They don't appear to be blue tinted but she is wearing them indoors.

[backtoiam]

The glasses inside thing might be as simple as the fact that according to her secret service detail and many others she absolutely despises and hates for people to look her in the eye unless she is in public putting on the dog and pony show. Werd is she makes them look down, look away, but not in her eye. Higher ranks probably don't have to but according to staff, troopers, secret service she is damn serious about it.

[backtoiam]

I'm not saying you claimed the blue glasses were incontrovertible proof, only that the person in your video (and others elsewhere in the same right-wing sphere) are claiming exactly that.

To be expected. Left wing sites do the exact same thing. I'm glad none of it bothers me and it doesn't. I dislike both both parties equally and i'm glad. Saves me a lot of anger and anxiety. They can both bite me.

I'm good with you. I don't like pissing matches. I hope you're good with me.

[mentalgongfu2]

Probably irrelevant, but I just noticed she's wearing a lot of turquoise jewelry in that well-known pic 82 posted. It is one of my favorite stones and also has several symbolic and mythological meanings.

Apparently it was believed to protect Turkish horse riders from falling injuries, among other things. First I've heard of that, but interesting in this context nonetheless. Probably she just likes to wear expensive matching jewelry.

http://www.crystalvaults.com/crystal-encyclopedia/turquoise

[mentalgongfu2]

I'm good with you. I don't like pissing matches. I hope you're good with me.

Cards on the table, I don't entirely trust you or your intentions based on habits I've observed in your postings, from the linking to sources known to be questionable/untrustworthy/biased (something others have criticized) to your habit of mentioning you saw X incredible assertion somewhere but can't remember where nor take the time to track it down, thus dropping the insinuation and never coming back to validate it. That bugs me. My perception has been that you play games and then claim you are only sharing bread crumbs when you have in fact laid out a full loaf.

But I have no personal animosity, and I have found value in some of your postings, particularly the metaphysical subjects rather than straight politics. I wish you would write more about your personal knowledge in that arena. I find that immensely more interesting than sharing stories any one of us can see on infowars. I acknowledge my own bias in this, since RI certainly is a place to share and examine the narratives in the ether.

So we're good, as far as that goes. But I reserve the right to call bullshit and honestly will probably be more critical of your posts than those from posters I have more experience with, especially if you continue to give sites like Breitbart and Judicial Watch the same consideration as real news outlets. But my attack comes from a place of love. I feel like I'm part of the RI "old guard" in that sense. I was never a big somebody here and I've been a mostly lurker for years but I've been around a long time and thus have an emotional investment in the quality of our collective musings.

Back to topic: if Hillary really is suffering from a severe and persistent health problem, does that make her and the machine behind her more or less dangerous? I'm not sure. Desperation is powerful, nothing to lose, but in this clusterfuck of an election I'm not sure who is really fighting who... As Jack has pointed out, we are in the Kayfabe era, and it's hard to tell the difference between a work and a shoot, let alone the work-shoot. Brock Lesnar vs. Randy Orton at Summerslam 2016 is the most recent WWE parallel.

http://www.craveonline.com/culture/1022989-brock-lesnar-shoot-randy-orton-bloody-summerslam-match

The thing is, reality itself seems so disassociated from expected reality... The Onion can hardly maintain satire, Mr. Show skits are coming true. Tomorrow something else will come to reshape our reality, and while we're examining that event, they'll create a new reality for us to examine. Who said that? Karl Rove? The problem with prophets is it doesn't matter how horrible they may be if their prophecies come true.

[backtoiam]

thus dropping the insinuation and never coming back to validate it.

I can assure you it is on purpose too. I do that on purpose. I am not evading the subject I am evading specific people that use name calling, rancor, accusations, and put words in my mouth because I am not supporting 'their team' and there is a lot of that around here and by no means is it always directed at me. Stupid, dumb, evil, idiot, crazy, and I can't even remember all of them because there are too many.

There is a certain few that if rancor is in the air they will be there like flies and I ignore and evade THEM, THOSE PEOPLE, and not the subject matter itself. If somebody is polite to me I will respond. If they are not I will usually ignore them. I'm not gonna sit here and argue with somebody that will hang in there for ten pages making accusations and calling names, saying absolutely anything they can think of to win an argument. Not gonna do it. That may come across as evading the subject matter itself but that is not my intention. I'd rather just walk away than play with somebody that just wants to fight because they like it or assign meaning to my words that are not in my mind.

It could also be because I don't even remember where I saw something and that happens to me fairly often. My mind is far from being as sharp as it once was and I forget an enormous amount of stuff. If I have something in my hand and set it down somewhere, and it is not in its place where it should be, I can kiss it goodbye forever a lot of the times because I will never find it again sometimes unless its in the house and stumble across it later. If I were outside doing something and set my phone down because I needed both hands for a while I would probably never see it again. Sometimes I can lay something down and in five minutes I have no idea where it is.

The majority of this board is seemingly very passionate about "the left" wing of of politics. A few seem to be offended when it is not supported no matter what. They want to see a team player. Neither one of these political parties deserves my respect in my opinion and I am definitely not a team player when it comes to politics. I treat it like a chinese menu. I take what I believe is good for humanity in bits and pieces from both both. This fallacy that there are no truthful facts from supposed "right wing" web sites is just that, it is a fallacy. I don't even believe in a "right wing" in the United States because both parties are right wing in my opinion. Each party speaks differently but they play the the same. Both nothing but shit.

Unfortunately I see very little of redeeming value from either these days and neither side means a damn thing they say anyway so its pretty much a moot point in my book. These talking puppet heads do what they are told regardless of anything they say. It wouldn't matter if it is Trump, Bernie, Hillary, etc...same train would roll in the same direction regardless. I see people hoping Bernie will jump back into the race and "save the day" and I just shake my head and palm myself. If he were to step out of line the PTB would beat his ass in a skinny minute. Look what they did to Bill Clinton (sleaze bag that he is) with Monica in the blue dress. That sort of thing is what happens when you piss those people off. Or else...

The Democrats have been catching my wrath because they have been in the wheel house for 8 years and gave accrued much to criticize. This last eight years really showed me in bright colors that they are every bit as sorry as the Repubs. Actually the Democrats piss me off worse than the Republicans because they stand on a tall stump and promise the poor, the downtrodden, the minorities, the gays, brown people, black people, etc...that they are here to save them. Then they fuck them blind. That is some cold blooded shit and it makes me very angry. I would rather somebody tell me they are gunning for me like the Repubs sometimes do so that I can take evasive actions and avoid harm. At least I can see those bastards coming and duck. Dealing with democrats is like waking up with a damn snake in the bed you never saw coming, if a person ever even wakes up that is. The Dems are the language masters and they specialize is divisive labels that pit people against each other and I don't appreciate it worth a damn.

And its all mute anyway because both sides are just playing us like ping pong balls slapping us back and forth at each other and laughing at us behind our backs.

But I have no personal animosity, and I have found value in some of your postings, particularly the metaphysical subjects rather than straight politics. I wish you would write more about your personal knowledge in that arena.

You can bet I have had some very unique experiences. Having a broader bandwidth than most people and being able to see things like the ether and sense certain things is sometimes glorious and frightening. It just depends on where the frequencies land. I stopped talking about because a couple of particularly rancorous posters were using it against me and making fun of me with it. They made me wish I had never opened my mouth so I totally shut down on it. My personal experiences with the metaphysical world are sort of sacred to me and if somebody is going to use it as a club against me I just won't talk about it. I'm sensitive talking about it even under the best conditions. This can be a mean fucking place to hang out sometimes but I do it because it is the only crowd of people I know that "get it."

if Hillary really is suffering from a severe and persistent health problem, does that make her and the machine behind her more or less dangerous? I'm not sure. Desperation is powerful, nothing to lose, but in this clusterfuck of an election I'm not sure who is really fighting who

I'm with ya and yes I think it makes it very dangerous in my opinion. These are not the sort of people you want to be desperate. Simply consider the things they do as an every day course of business and then make that exponential.

I'm starting to worry lately that Trump might actually be serious about being President and means what he says and will actually attempt to buck the system. The system needs to change but it will never do so peacefully unless the current power structure suddenly wakes up and realizes it has been silently surrounded and I don't see that happening under the current conditions anytime soon.

I have been hoping that Trump was just a show pony and the establishment was kicking his ass simply as a demonstration and big show of what they prefer that we detest and hate. Then again I tell myself he can be easily dealt with and surely he knows that? He can be eliminated in a second if need be and we all know that and so does he. If he is serious he must have somebody silently behind him that is attempting to guarantee his safety? But who? The military maybe?

The Democrats are hell bent on making this goal of the first woman president and now that they are on the 99 yard line it appears as if Hillary may trip on that 99 yard line with the football and fail and I admit it makes me nervous.

If Trump is truly serious about doing the things he says then he must have a fairly influential and powerful hidden network hiding in the wings backing him or he is just plain suicidal. He might be a blow hard arrogant asshole but he is intelligent and he isn't stupid. He is very calculating and i'm sure he knows exactly what he is dealing with. I'm just not sure what his intentions really are. Probably just blow hard asshole willing to play along but the visceral hate the status quo has for him makes me wonder sometimes.