The Pedophile File

[Nordic]

Thanks RocketMan.

I cant interpret the photographs as anything more than static images without context.
That's just me.
I can understand others interpretations.

I am not prepared to compare Biden to Saville without more evidence,
and I really think that is an unfair comparison at this point.
I am not sure that Biden doesn't live the values he espouses,
in fact I think he does.
For what its worth, Biden has exhibited the same behaviors towards men, if that matters.

Also Biden lost his first wife, and his son.
Sometimes those kind of experiences cause a person to put more importance on experiencing human touch,
with no sexuality involved, and most psychologists would consider that a healthy response- to a point.
Does Biden go past that point? I am not prepared to pass that judgement.

Yeah, and I am not a Biden defender, I am just sorting out the behaviors.

Why do you keep talking about "static images"? There are plenty of videos and most of the static images presented are actually FROM videos.

Defending this kind of gropey-freely stuff is .... Weird. And maybe you missed out on the Saville thread, but it actually is very similar to his behavior, both described by his victims and by witnesses. He would act exactly like this before moving in for the kill.

[guruilla]

Defending this kind of gropey-freely stuff is .... Weird. And maybe you missed out on the Saville thread, but it actually is very similar to his behavior, both described by his victims and by witnesses. He would act exactly like this before moving in for the kill.

It is definitely weird.

[Burnt Hill]

Jimmy Saville was "grooming" children he would see on a repetitive basis.
That is not the case with Biden.

Weird that anyone who professes to know anything about pedophilia wouldn't know the difference.

[Burnt Hill]

Those guys are like a broken duet.

It's painful to have to state that the trustworthiness of any given source is 100% irrelevant if, as in this case, the evidence can be examined as separate from the source. All anyone has to do is listen to the soundtrack on the video and, if they suspect it has been doctored, compare to another version of the footage. Choosing to attack the source, and then the poster for referring to the source, rather than simply addressing the material is a way to redirect attention away from the material, but that's all it is. It's like throwing out a ten-dollar bill because it was found in a whorehouse.

Okay, lets disregard the source.
The video/audio is still technically garbage.
You said you have listened to other sources that are more believable.
So...? Put up or...what?

[guruilla]

Go back & read the post. What I wrote was that, having listened to the main video footage, here:



I believe I can hear Biden making the comment about being horny. I know three other people who also say they can hear it.

Regardless of whether someone can hear it or not, Biden's body language is clear and IMO arguing otherwise is just . . . weird.

[Cordelia]

Mainstream New York Magazine weighs in on Biden's creepy' 'whisperings' in 2015 satire.

9 Times Joe Biden Creepily Whispered in Women’s Ears
By Jessica Roy

Joe Biden is the vice-president of the United States of America, but he is the president of Awkwardly Whispering in Women’s Ears. This morning, Stephanie Carter, the wife of new Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter, became the newest victim of Biden’s war on ears when he whispered sweet nothings with his hands planted firmly on her shoulders. This, it seems, is a favorite tactic of ol’ Uncle Joe. Here are eight other times Biden was caught creepily murmuring in ladies’ ears.


"Cute necklace! Bauble Bar?" Biden whispers to Stephanie Carter during her husband's swearing-in ceremony in February 2015. Photo: Alex Wong/2015 Getty Images

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http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 ... -ears.html

[semper occultus]

Jimmy Saville was "grooming" children he would see on a repetitive basis.

.....wouldn't say that particularly...he was a very opportunist hit-and-run molester aswell...

[Burnt Hill]

Jimmy Saville was "grooming" children he would see on a repetitive basis.

.....wouldn't say that particularly...he was a very opportunist hit-and-run molester aswell...

maybe...though it was also a well known "secret" that Saville was an abuser.
Is there any evidence at all of Biden having ever abused anyone?

Or is this a bit of a witch hunt based on inaudible audio and an interpretive myth based on out of context pictures and "I know it when I see it" videos?

[Burnt Hill]

Mainstream New York Magazine weighs in on Biden's creepy' 'whisperings' in 2015 satire.

9 Times Joe Biden Creepily Whispered in Women’s Ears
By Jessica Roy

Joe Biden is the vice-president of the United States of America, but he is the president of Awkwardly Whispering in Women’s Ears. This morning, Stephanie Carter, the wife of new Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter, became the newest victim of Biden’s war on ears when he whispered sweet nothings with his hands planted firmly on her shoulders. This, it seems, is a favorite tactic of ol’ Uncle Joe. Here are eight other times Biden was caught creepily murmuring in ladies’ ears.


"Cute necklace! Bauble Bar?" Biden whispers to Stephanie Carter during her husband's swearing-in ceremony in February 2015. Photo: Alex Wong/2015 Getty Images

Continued.....
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 ... -ears.html

That's pretty funny Cordelia!
I found the caption to the last picture the most believable....

[guruilla]

[Cordelia]

I appreciated the 'tie' quip; those randy dandy democrats; appropriate for hanging!

[divideandconquer]

I don't know that we should be so quick to label Biden "creepy" or "pedophile" just because he's a touchy-feely kind of guy. He's that way with everyone: young, middle-aged, old, male, female, black, white.... As far as I know, there are not even any mentions of abuse, connections to known pedophiles, and/or rumors surrounding him. Those who name names have never mentioned him, have they?

[Cordelia]

"Burnt Hill » Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:28 pm"

"Also Biden lost his first wife, and his son.
Sometimes those kind of experiences cause a person to put more importance on experiencing human touch,
with no sexuality involved, and most psychologists would consider that a healthy response- to a point."


Thanks for that reminder. Biden lost his first wife and daughter (his two sons were badly injured--his son, Beau, died in 2015) in a horrific car crash over Xmas, 1972. He'd just been elected to his first term in the Senate and took the oath of office in his sons' hospital room. So it could be authentic and even poignant, that in administering the oath of office to others, he's so 'attentive' to girls and women. But I interpret a lot of his behavior as about himself & wielding power (I've found his display of public grief questionable and as playing the sympathy card to win potential voters).

Also, if touch is of greater importance to him, wouldn't it be better to address that need in more suitable settings with people who understand grief and anger? Because, in his position of power, working out his own neediness through others, especially children and sexual assault survivors, would be confusing, at best, for recipients of his self-therapy. He could join a grief support group or take up adult wrestling; I don't think personal tragedy gives a high-ranking official, or anyone, a free pass to inappropriate acting out.

[Cordelia]

I don't know that we should be so quick to label Biden "creepy" or "pedophile" just because he's a touchy-feely kind of guy. He's that way with everyone: young, middle-aged, old, male, female, black, white.... As far as I know, there are not even any mentions of abuse, connections to known pedophiles, and/or rumors surrounding him. Those who name names have never mentioned him, have they?

Groppy? Possible pedophile? I find his persona too intimidating and potentially threatening to call him just creepy; he strikes me as a predator. But you're right, there don't seem to be any allegations, at least available to the public (what's rumored on Capitol Hill would be interesting to hear).

Biden probably deserves his own thread........

[guruilla]

This current discussion seems to.