Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

[Searcher08]

What does that have to do with Hilary Clinton being seriously dangerous?
Isnt that Trump being seriously dangerous?

[slimmouse]

What does that have to do with Hilary Clinton being seriously dangerous?
Isnt that Trump being seriously dangerous?

By hook or by, lets call it "divine" crook, we will have the whore of Babylon ruling our planet shortly. Apologies to Hilary fans and to the lady herself for what is probably a mild exaggeration

Meanwhile We enter the Oort (sic?)cloud twice a year. For the uninformed thats the place where a comet impact is most likely

And we're probably due, at the same time that our civilisation is desperate for a reboot.

Is it unreasonable of me to wonder which is worse?

[conniption]

Well hell...Larry Chin has managed to throw me head-over-heels back into the world of the deepest darkest conspiracies imaginable.. and I somehow feel compelled to share this article here with you...

be warned...

global research

Political Succession and “The Bush-Clinton Nexus”: Permanent Criminal State, “A Clinton White House Guarantees War with Russia”
Permanent Revolving Door
By Larry Chin
Global Research, September 26, 2016

what can I say?
i've always loved Larry Chin...

[Grizzly]

Think you're informed about the Clinton server and foundation? So did I - until...
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/com ... erver_and/
this Judicial Watch panel on 9/29/16. There's a TON of info we haven't heard. This is going places

[seemslikeadream]

three hours ago




nate silver


It’s all about the 538 Electoral College votes

Here's a map of the country, with each state sized by its number of electoral votes and shaded by the leading candidate's chance of winning it.



http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/201 ... id=rrpromo

[Iamwhomiam]

Judicial Watch is hardly non-partisan; it is a conservative (far right) propaganda channel.

Try searching "Judicial Watch Trump Scandal" videos, for example.

[Wombaticus Rex]

global research

Political Succession and “The Bush-Clinton Nexus”: Permanent Criminal State, “A Clinton White House Guarantees War with Russia”
Permanent Revolving Door
By Larry Chin
Global Research, September 26, 2016

Was discussing this on FB last night: I'm sure the neocons, Kagans especially, think they've got control of Hillary.

I also think they're going to find out Hillary is a lot like Bill.

8 years of Clinton: no nuclear war with Russia.
12 years of Bush: no nuclear war with Russia.

"This time it's different, trust me."

Yeah, no.

[seemslikeadream]

Judicial Watch is hardly non-partisan; it is a conservative (far right) propaganda channel.

Try searching "Judicial Watch Trump Scandal" videos, for example.

I am so sick and tired of these rabid right wing sources being linked here....utter bullshit
OK I will

Clinton-Obsessed Judicial Watch Hosts Discredited Conspiracy Theorists To Push New Misinformation
Research ››› September 22, 2016 7:37 PM EDT ››› BOBBY LEWIS


Conservative anti-Clinton group Judicial Watch announced a “special panel presentation” promising a “scandal update” on the Clinton Foundation and the emails of Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton. Judicial Watch, itself a hub for baseless smears against the Clintons, invited to the panel two discredited Clinton conspiracy theorists known for making claims based on “bogus” data.
Judicial Watch To Hold A “Clinton Scandal Update” Panel On “Emails And The Clinton Foundation”

Judicial Watch To Host “Educational Panel Discussion” On The Clinton Foundation, Clinton Emails. Right-wing group Judicial Watch announced a “special panel presentation” they entitled “Clinton Scandal Update – Emails and the Clinton Foundation.” The panel is a response to “the revelations about the pay-to-play scandal” related to Hillary Clinton’s “email system and the Clinton Foundation.” From the September 22 press release:

In response to the revelations about the pay-to-play scandal tied to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s non-state.gov email system and the Clinton Foundation, Judicial Watch announced today that it will host an educational panel discussion: “Clinton Scandal Update – Emails and the Clinton Foundation.”

Panelists include the author of the New York Times best-seller Clinton Cash and President of Government Accountability Institute Peter Schweizer; Joe diGenova, former U.S. Attorney, Independent Counsel and founding partner of the Washington, D.C., law firm diGenova & Toensing; and Chris Farrell, director of investigations and research at Judicial Watch. Moderator will be Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. [Judicial Watch, 9/22/16]

Judicial Watch, Schweizer, And diGenova Frequently Peddle Clinton-Related Misinformation

Judicial Watch
Judicial Watch Is A Driving Force In Peddling Baseless Clinton Scandals. As a leading conservative activist group, Judicial Watch has repeatedly pushed a false narrative about Hillary Clinton’s emails to both the right-wing and mainstream press. Records obtained by Judicial Watch are used in the GOP Majority House of Representatives investigations into the Benghazi attacks and Clinton’s email server. Media outlets have also regularly used Judicial Watch’s baseless reports in stories about the Clinton family, often making misleading claims about Democrats and progressives. [Media Matters, 10/2/15]

Judicial Watch Was Founded By A Clinton-Obsessed Conspiracy Theorist. Judicial Watch was founded in 1994 by Larry Klayman who, during the 1990s, filed at least 18 different lawsuits against Bill and Hillary Clinton accusing them of various conspiracies, and hundreds more against multiple governmental agencies, The Washington Post, and even his own mother. As The Week noted in 2013, Klayman pushed a conspiracy theory that “the Clintons orchestrated the murders of several of their associates in the 1990s,” which, in various iterations, has been repeated by right-wing media, notably with Trump confidante Roger Stone who accused the Clintons of murdering over 40 people. Klayman also believes President Obama is "our first 'Muslim' president" and “not even a naturalized U.S. citizen and thus is in the United States illegally.” [Media Matters, 3/25/15, 4/12/16]

Judicial Watch Reports Routinely Dupe The Media. Despite Judicial Watch’s long history of questionable information, media outlets regularly turn to them for damaging stories about the Clintons. In August 2016 Judicial Watch claimed that a Clinton Foundation official, Doug Band, emailed then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s aide, Huma Abedin, to allow a Foundation donor to speak to a “substance person” about Lebanon. The media repeated the story, alleging it raised “questions about whether [the Clinton Foundation] worked to reward its donors with access and influence at the State Department.” Judicial Watch and the media ignored the complete lack of evidence that any Clinton Foundation donors ever influenced State Department policy. [Media Matters, 8/10/16]

Peter Schweizer
Peter Schweizer’s Marquee Book Is Filled With Lies And Misinformation. Peter Schweizer, President of the Government Accountability Institute (GAI), is also the author of Clinton Cash, a discredited anti-Clinton book often cited by right-wing media that purports to expose the corruption of the Clinton family. Schweizer’s book is filled with 20-plus errors, distortions, and fabrications including a false press release, political double-standards, the omission of key information (to which Schweizer admitted,) and taking quotes “badly out of context.” [Media Matters, 4/30/15, 5/23/16]

Peter Schweizer’s Entire Career Is Full Of Errors, Retractions, And Questionable Sourcing. Peter Schweizer’s career features a long history of sloppy journalism and embarrassing mistakes. In 2005 he falsely accused then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) of underpaying workers at a vineyard she owns. In 2012, Schweizer’s GAI claimed President Obama skipped half of his daily intelligence briefings, though The Washington Post Fact-Checker blog reported that GAI’s data was “bogus” and that under Schweizer’s standard, “Republican icon Ronald Reagan skipped his intelligence briefings 99 percent of the time." The Post’s fact-checker gave GAI’s claim “three Pinocchios.” [Media Matters, 4/20/15]

Peter Schweizer’s Lies And Misinformation Have Been Cited By Donald Trump. Schweizer’s error-ridden Clinton Cash has been referenced by Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump to reinforce his lies about Hillary Clinton. Trump cited the book on June 22 to claim the Clintons personally benefitted from a uranium deal with a Russian company, Uranium One, headed by a Clinton Foundation donor. However, Time magazine noted Schweizer’s conspiracy theory was “based on little evidence.” [Media Matters, 6/20/16, 6/20/16]

Joseph diGenova
Joseph diGenova Was An Early Benghazi Misinformer. In 2013, Joseph diGenova appeared on Fox News with his wife, Victoria Toensing, and alleged the Obama administration was threatening Benghazi whistleblowers to keep quiet. However, by that time Benghazi witnesses had already reportedly testified to the FBI, an independent review board, and spoken to Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) regarding the events of September 11, 2012. DiGenova also pushed the falsehood that soldiers were “relieved of their duty because they insisted there be a military response” to the Benghazi attacks, even though a military response was ordered by then-Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta. [Media Matters, 4/30/13, 10/29/13]

Joseph diGenova Was Scolded By A Congressman For “Unseemly, Undignified” Investigative Conduct. In 1998, Roll Call reported that diGenova and his wife were excoriated by then-Rep. Bill Clay (D-MO) for their conduct in the then-ongoing Monica Lewinsky scandal. Clay lambasted diGenova for “becom[ing] so closely aligned with the President's critics and so personally identified with the scandal itself as to have relinquished the air of impartiality, non-partisanship, and professionalism required of leaders of a serious congressional investigation." Clay called their conduct “unseemly, undignified, unworthy of this committee, and generally detrimental to important Congressional functions." [Media Matters, 4/30/13]

Joseph diGenova Led A Right-Wing Media Frenzy About Hillary Clinton’s Indictment. On the January 5, 2016, edition of The Laura Ingraham Show, diGenova predicted that Hillary Clinton would be indicted for her private email server within “the next 60 days.” Even though the FBI investigation was never a criminal investigation, right-wing media from Rush Limbaugh, to the Washington Examiner, and the Daily Mail ran with what Fox host Sean Hannity called an “overwhelming” case for Clinton’s criminal prosecution. On July 5, 2016 -- 182 days after diGenova’s prediction -- FBI Director James B. Comey announced that the investigation was closed and the FBI could not “find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts.” [Media Matters, 1/7/16; Statement by FBI Director James B. Comey on the Investigation of Secretary Hillary Clinton’s Use of a Personal E-Mail System, 7/5/16]
http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/0 ... ion/213270

MONDAY, AUG 22, 2016 07:00 AM CDT
Judicial Watch vs. Hillary: The conservative group has a long history of spreading Clinton lies
Right-wing strike force Judicial Watch is not letting up on Hillary's emails — the media shouldn't enable them
HEATHER DIGBY PARTON

Back in the 1990s the political establishment made fun of Hillary Clinton for her comment that the press was missing the real story of “the vast right-wing conspiracy” that had been dogging her family throughout her husband’s presidency. Any mention of it provoked eye-rolls and knowing smirks among the cognoscenti, who were all absolutely sure that it was just more evidence of Clinton’s guilty conscience over something.
But she was right. And there was some real reporting on it even at the time although, as it was revealed, the Republicans would throw out another shiny object and the press pack would go running in the opposite direction like a herd of gazelles. So it was very difficult to get a handle on the whole story. For instance, this 1999 article by Jill Abramson and Don Van Natta in the New York Times laid out the previously untold story story of the small group of conservative lawyers who concocted the Paula Jones lawsuit and were instrumental in pushing the Monica Lewinsky matter, among other things. As it happens one of those lawyers was a fellow named George Conway, who was not yet married to Kellyanne Fitzpatrick, who is now Donald Trump’s latest campaign manager. The Drudge Report drove much of the scandal, and George Conway was believed to have been Drudge’s main source, most memorably the story about President Clinton’s alleged “distinguishing characteristic” which pundits and commentators gleefully discussed on television for months. It’s a small right-wing world after all.

The book “The Hunting of the President” and the new e-book “The Hunting of Hillary,” both by Joe Conason and Gene Lyons, finally put together the overall narrative of what happened. But even at the time, it was obvious that there was a concerted effort, funded by millionaire GOP donors, to throw mud on the Clinton administration in an attempt to either get the president impeached or force him to resign. We all know how that ended.

One of the biggest players in the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy was an outfit called Judicial Watch, formed in the early 90s by a conservative gadfly named Larry Klayman. Klayman was a one-man wrecking crew who filed more than 18 lawsuits against members of the Clinton administration costing them millions of dollars in legal fees. The most notable of these was a $90 million invasion of privacy suit filed against Hillary Clinton and others on behalf of the “victims” of Filegate, one of the many scandals for which both Bill and Hillary Clinton were completely exonerated by two different independent counsels. The lawsuit was colorfully described at the time by Jacob Weisberg of Slate:

Klayman has found an opening to harass his political opponents, inflicting costly all-day depositions on Harold Ickes, [George] Stephanopoulos, James Carville, Paul Begala, and many others … Klayman asks administration officials about whom they date, where they go after work, whether they were expelled from school for disciplinary problems. One 23-year-old White House assistant was interrogated about a triple murder that took place at a Starbucks in Georgetown. Klayman videotapes these depositions, excerpts of which air on Geraldo when Klayman appears on the program, and publishes the transcripts on the Internet. This is in pursuit of a case about the invasion of privacy, remember … The ultimate goal of the Filegate suit appears to be to inflict this treatment on Hillary Clinton.

That was just one of many Judicial Watch lawsuits, including one in which Klayman sued his own mother for $50,000, that went nowhere. But they did achieve their true purpose, which was to damage reputations, smear political opponents and inflict huge legal fees on anyone who happened to be in the administration.

Klayman left Judicial Watch in 2003 and ended up suing them (naturally.) His recent activity has included a rare righteous lawsuit against the National Security Agency for spying on Americans, and accusations that President Obama is a Muslim who is trying to institute Sharia law. Just this month he added another name to the list of more 80 deaths for which he says Hillary Clinton is responsible. And yes, he’s representing two Benghazi families in wrongful death suits against her.

Meanwhile, Judicial Watch has continued its work without him. During the Bush administration they made a couple of half-hearted attempts at bipartisan “watchdog” activity by submitting Freedom of Information Act requests for Dick Cheney’s energy task force members and the White House guest logs for lobbyist Jack Abramoff.

The Obama presidency proved to be more fertile ground. Judicial Watch has accused the administration of creating dozens of “czars” that don’t exist, and has made a fetish out of lying about the Obamas’ travel expenses. This so-called watchdog group has engaged in some truly weird conspiracy-mongering. Via Media Matters:

Judicial Watch claimed that the Justice Department was helping to “organize and manage rallies and protests against George Zimmerman,” the Florida man who shot and killed teenager Trayvon Martin. In reality, the unit of the DOJ was sent to Florida in order to defuse tensions in the community, and as the Orlando Sentinel reported, they “reached out to the city’s spiritual and civic leaders to help cool heated emotions.”

Judicial Watch claimed that the Islamic State (ISIS) had set up a terrorist camp in Mexico “just a few miles from El Paso, Texas,” facilitating the smuggling of terrorists into the United States. Conservative media outlets picked up Judicial Watch’s claim. Authorities in both the U.S. and Mexico rejected the group’s fearmongering.

This is the same Judicial Watch that currently has the press panting over every release of the Clinton State Department emails they’ve received from their FOIA fishing expedition, rushing on the air and to print based upon the organization’s often erroneous and misleading press releases. Tom Fitton, the organization’s current president and author of the book “The Corruption Chronicles: Obama’s Big Secrecy, Big Corruption, and Big Government” proudly declared, “Judicial Watch has had more success investigating the IRS, Benghazi and Clinton email scandals than any House committee.”

Considering the outcomes of the IRS and Benghazi “scandals,” it would behoove the press to show a little skepticism. The history of this group is very clear. The first time it waged its campaign of character assassination against Bill and Hillary Clinton, it’s perhaps understandable that the press failed to recognize they were being manipulated by political operatives. The trumped-up Obama scandals added up to nothing as well. There’s no excuse for the media to fall for it again.
http://www.salon.com/2016/08/22/judicia ... nton-lies/

[Iamwhomiam]

Wombaticus Rex » Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:51 am

I'm sure the neocons, Kagans especially, think they've got control of Hillary.

I also think they're going to find out Hillary is a lot like Bill.

8 years of Clinton: no nuclear war with Russia.
12 years of Bush: no nuclear war with Russia.

"This time it's different, trust me."

Yeah, no.

Agree.

No heavy rain in the foreseeable future.

[seemslikeadream]

Agree

sane people no matter how evil someone thinks they are.....will not start a nuclear war....period

they understand what nuclear annihilation means

Mutual assured destruction or mutually assured destruction (MAD)..look it up Donald...quit the slut shaming


on the other hand an insane person who is a no nothing idiot with his hand on the button is another story

[Rory]

three hours ago

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/201 ... id=rrpromo

I'd be wary of putting much faith in Nate Cupronickel's abilities as a prognosticator. He's been wrong so frequently this last year he doesn't even qualify for the broken watch right twice a day, metaphor.

[seemslikeadream]

link please


never mind I got it

Nate Silver is happy to be wrong
Fivethirtyeight.com founder: Blowing Trump’s primary win made me humbler, smarter.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/n ... z4LkyWZhJj

Nate Silver predicted that Donald Trump would not win the Republican nomination. Unlike most of his predictions, though, this was not based on objective statistics. He made an educated guess based on past primary campaigns, and assigned an essentially arbitrary number.

Silver admitted to his mistake: How I Acted Like A Pundit And Screwed Up On Donald Trump
https://www.quora.com/Has-Nate-Silver-e ... ncorrectly

so what?

[Iamwhomiam]

The Judicial Watch Board of Directors is three men, President, Tom Fitton; Secretary and Treasurer, Paul J. Orfanedes; and Christopher J. Farrell has been a board member since 2003.

(Poor practice for one to hold both positions of Secretary and Treasurer simultaneously and is immediately suspect.)

Interestingly enough, is this rather bizarre statement coming immediately after announcing Orfanedes positions as officers of the board of directors, the website reminds you that he is also a member of their Board of Directors:

...Paul is Corporate Secretary and Treasurer of Judicial Watch. He is also member of the Board of Directors.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/about/board-of-directors/

[seemslikeadream]

The Judicial Watch Board of Directors is three men, President, Tom Fitton; Secretary and Treasurer, Paul J. Orfanedes; and Christopher J. Farrell has been a board member since 2003.

(Poor practice for one to hold both positions of Secretary and Treasurer simultaneously and is immediately suspect.)

Interestingly enough, is this rather bizarre statement coming immediately after announcing Orfanedes positions as officers of the board of directors, the website reminds you that he is also a member of their Board of Directors:

...Paul is Corporate Secretary and Treasurer of Judicial Watch. He is also member of the Board of Directors.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/about/board-of-directors/

Wingnut Superlawyer Larry Klayman Sues All The Black People, For Being Scary And Mean
Read more at http://wonkette.com/604032/wingnut-supe ... miH5CB8.99

Larry Klayman Suing Obama For Endangering His Life As A White Man
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/l ... -white-man

Larry Klayman Is Suing Obama, the Black Lives Matter Movement, and Probably You

JE Reich

Larry Klayman, a professional sack of chicken pox scabs and supposed lawyer, has stated his intention to file a class action lawsuit against President Barack Obama and the entire Black Lives Matter movement for purportedly inciting a race war, which he in turn claims is responsible for killing three police officers and two transit officers at a BLM protest in Dallas last week.
http://jezebel.com/larry-klayman-is-sui ... 1783711929

[Rory]

$hillary is in trouble despite what the mass media are saying regarding polling. Low enthusiasm for her lesser evil message, the potential for more and more fall out from her myriad corruption/fraud/treason related Foundation dealings, etc.. They've blown through all of their quality anti Trump messaging and are reduced bottom of the barrel material: fronting a wannabe gangster beauty queen, and smearing Trump for, ermahgerds! Deals with Cuba!

I've though for some time that her strategy against him was comically bad - she needs people to turn out for her, not, not vote for him. Her message to that end is hilariously misguided: she's cementing his voters enthusiasm, diluting real fear of his malfeasance and potential for lulz (on a global scale), and crucially, she is doing nothing to appeal to young people and minorities. Her 'pitch to center right GOP 'moderates' and neocons has fallen flat on its face: she pisses off her own people royally, while the GOP either are not going to vote, or will vote for him. And millennials are turning their back on her along with blacks and latinos. As someone on twitter says - she just needs to throw some red meat to her actual base. But she can't/won't, and it's probably too late for such a shift in course anyway.

She's an awful candidate and yet, Trump is probably the only candidate she can actually beat - and it's not certain she can even do that. It must be excruciating for die hard Dems to watch this pan out. This is what you get when you rig the primary to prop up the worst presidential candidate in electoral history (bar one). If she wins, it won't be by convincing enough margin to allay fears of voter fraud/election tampering - and the whole cloud over the integrity of the elections? Yup, escalated wildly by her and her team to smear Trump and ratchet up fear over Russia.

We are all stuck with the consequences either way.