TRUMP is seriously dangerous

[82_28]

I know that was just an example but Jesus Chipotle can't catch a break.

[Nordic]

Bottom line: at this point both Hillary and Trump should be disqualified from the race.

Where does that leave us:

[8bitagent]

I don't want to comment much on today's 2005 Trump tape, as his best friend Bill Clinton is also a disgusting rapist pig.

But this, Trump still claiming the "Central Park 5" are guilty(whom he said should face the death penalty in 1989) despite being exonerated by DNA evidence
and the actual attacker confessing...is pretty damn disgraceful

[8bitagent]

Bottom line: at this point both Hillary and Trump should be disqualified from the race.

Where does that leave us:

Exactly. All the people saying Trump is a disgusting rapist pig, I say "Yep, just like his best friend and Hillary Clinton's husband".

Hillary Clinton cheated the most progressive serious Democrat contender in a generation, and its a crying shame. Meanwhile Mike Pence
is beyond the beyond with evangelical based far right insanity.

Btw, isnt that Bush's cousin in that tape leaked today with Trump? America should be sick of the Clintons and Bushes by now

[tapitsbo]

A forthcoming state of emergency which suspends the extremely dubious elections should provide relief from a certain tension.

Everyone wants a reset but what reset will we get/deserve?

[tron]

A forthcoming state of emergency which suspends the extremely dubious elections should provide relief from a certain tension.

Everyone wants a reset but what reset will we get/deserve?

money crash has been on the cards for a bit, which way will it play though, will the computers fuck up? will we return to only paper money? will we get rid of paper first then the computers fail, then we trade with rocks?

[seemslikeadream]

A Declaration by American Evangelicals Concerning Donald Trump

Evangelical Leaders United States

Imperfect elections and flawed candidates often make for complicated and difficult choices for Christians. But sometimes historic moments arise when more is at stake than partisan politics--when the meaning and integrity of our faith hangs in the balance. This is one of those moments.
A significant mistake in American politics is the media’s continued identification of “evangelical” with mostly white, politically conservative, older men. We are not those evangelicals. The media’s narrow labels of our community perpetuate stereotypes, ignore our diversity, and fail to accurately represent views expressed by the full body of evangelical Christians.
We are Americans of African and European descent, Latino/a, Asian American, and Native American. We are women and men, as well as younger and older evangelical Christians. We come from a wide range of denominations, churches, and political orientations.
We believe in the unity of the body of Christ, but we acknowledge the diverse nature of a community whose faith is biblical and evangelical. And we are growing. Given the rich diversity within our unity, we call upon the political world to hear all our voices, and for the media to acknowledge that the evangelical community is quite diverse.
As evangelical Christians, we believe our hope and allegiance rests in the person of Jesus Christ, Savior of the world, and Lord of our lives. That is why no politician, party, movement, or nation can ever command our ultimate loyalty. As citizens both of the Kingdom of God and this world, we vote with humility, knowing that our favored candidates always fall short of biblical values. We recognize that despite our unity in Christ, we will inevitably disagree about which political stances come closest to the heart of God for our nation.
We believe that the centrality of Christ, the importance of both conversion and discipleship, the authority of the Scriptures, and the “good news” of the gospel, especially for the poor and vulnerable, should prevail over ideological politics, and that we must respond when evangelicalism becomes dangerously identified with one particular candidate whose statements, practice, personal morality, and ideology risk damaging our witness to the gospel before the watching world.
We believe that racism strikes at the heart of the gospel; we believe that racial justice and reconciliation is at the core of the message of Jesus.
We believe the candidacy of Donald J. Trump has given voice to a movement that affirms racist elements in white culture—both explicit and implicit. Regardless of his recent retraction, Mr. Trump has spread racist “birther” falsehoods for five years trying to delegitimize and humiliate our first African-American president, characterizing him as “the other” and not a real American citizen. He uses fear to demonize and degrade immigrants, foreigners, and people from different racial, ethnic, and religious backgrounds. He launched his presidential campaign by demonizing Mexicans, immigrants, and Muslims, and has repeatedly spoken against migrants and refugees coming to this country—those whom Jesus calls “the stranger” in Matthew 25, where he says that how we treat them is how we treat him. Trump has steadily refused to clearly and aggressively confront extremist voices and movements of white supremacy, some of whom now call him their “champion,” and has therefore helped to take the dangerous fringes of white nationalism in America to the mainstream of politics.
Mr. Trump has fueled white American nationalism with xenophobic appeals and religious intolerance at the expense of gospel values, democratic principles, and important international relationships. He mocks women and the sanctity of marriage vows, disregards facts and the accountability to truth, and worships wealth and shameful materialism, while taking our weakening culture of civility to nearly unprecedented levels with continuing personal attacks on others, including attacking a federal judge based purely on his Mexican heritage, mocking a disabled reporter, and humiliating a beauty pageant winner for her weight and Latina ethnicity—to give just a few examples.
Because we believe that racial bigotry has been a cornerstone of this campaign, it is a foundational matter of the gospel for us in this election, and not just another issue. This is not just a social problem, but a fundamental wrong. Racism is America's original sin. Its brazen use to win elections threatens to reverse real progress on racial equity and set America back.
Donald Trump's campaign is the most recent and extreme version of a history of racialized politics that has been pursued and about which white evangelicals, in particular, have been silent. The silence in previous times has set the environment for what we now see.
For this reason, we cannot ignore this bigotry, set it aside, just focus on other issues, or forget the things Mr. Trump has consistently said and done. No matter what other issues we also care about, we have to make it publicly clear that Mr. Trump’s racial and religious bigotry and treatment of women is morally unacceptable to us as evangelical Christians, as we attempt to model Jesus’ command to “love your neighbors as yourself.”
Whether we support Mr. Trump’s political opponent is not the question here. Hillary Clinton is both supported and distrusted by a variety of Christian voters. We, undersigned evangelicals, simply will not tolerate the racial, religious, and gender bigotry that Donald Trump has consistently and deliberately fueled, no matter how else we choose to vote or not to vote.
We see this election as a significant teachable moment for our churches and our nation to bring about long-needed repentance from our racial sin. Out of this belief we have written this declaration, inviting you to be part of what we have learned from one another and long to see in the churches and the world—a commitment to justice and the dignity of all human lives.
We invite you to stand with us, join in this declaration, and pass it along to your friends, congregants, pastors, students, and the diverse evangelical church.
Bishop Claude Alexander, Senior Pastor, The Park Church *
Onleilove Alston, Executive Director, Faith in NY*
Dr. Leroy Barber, Executive Director, The Voices Project*
Rev. William Barber, President, Repairers of the Breach*
Katelyn Beaty, Print Managing Editor, Christianity Today*
Dr. Timothy Tee Boddie, General Secretary, Progressive National Baptist Convention*
Rev. Dr. Peter Borgdorff, Executive Director Emeritus, Christian Reformed Church in North America*
Rev. Jonathan E.L. Brooks, Senior Pastor, Canaan Community Church, Chicago*
Austin Channing Brown, Writer and Speaker*
Deborah Brunt, Blogger and Author*
Rev. Dr. Tony Campolo, Author and Activist*
Rev. Dr. Mae Elise Cannon, Author*
Vanessa Carter, Founding member, Jesus for Revolutionaries (Los Angeles)*
Dr. Shawn Casselberry, Executive Director, Mission Year*
Noel Castellanos, Chief Executive Officer, CCDA*
Rev. Eugene Cho, Pastor, Author, Activist*
Rev. Dr. Rich Cizik, President and Founder, New Evangelical Partnership*
Shane Claiborne, Author, Activist, and Co-Founder of Red Letter Christians*
Shani Dowell, Mother, Wife, Educator*
Keith Drury*
Rev. Joshua DuBois, Founder and CEO, Values Partnerships, Washington, DC; President Obama's "Pastor in Chief"*
Rev. Dr. Gerald L. Durley, Pastor Emeritus, Providence Baptist Church*
Rev. Dr. Bob Ekblad, General Director, Tierra Nueva*
Michael O. Emerson, Author*
Erina Eubanks-Kim, Activist*
Jason Fileta, Executive Director, Micah Challenge USA*
Barbara Fiske, Community Advocate*
Dr. Robert M. Franklin, Director of the Religion Department, Chautauqua Institution*
Marlena Graves, Author, Speaker, Activist*
Rev. Dominique Gilliard, New Hope Covenant Church*
Rev. Wes Granberg-Michaelson, General Secretary Emeritus, Reformed Church in America*
Dr. Mimi Haddad, President of Christians for Biblical Equality, CBEInternational*
Rev. Cynthia Hale, Senior Pastor, Ray of Hope Christian Church*
Lisa Sharon Harper, Chief Church Engagement Officer, Sojourners*
Rev. Fred Harrell, Senior Pastor, City Church, San Francisco*
Rev. Dr. Bethany Harris, Church & Community Consultant, ReQuip Community*
Rachel Held Evans*
Rev. Dr. Peter Heltzel, Associate Professor of Theology, New York Theological Seminary*
Christopher L. Heuertz, Founding Partner of Gravity, a Center for Contemplative Activism*
Dr. Mike Higgins, Covenant Theological Seminary*
Michelle Higgins, Director of Faith for Justice, Director of Worship and Outreach, South City Church in Saint Louis, MO*
Rev. Daniel Hill, River City Community Church*
Dr. Al Hsu, Editor and Author*
David Husby, Director, Covenant World Relief*
Hyepin Im, President and CEO, Korean Churches for Community Development*
Carolyn Custiss James, Author*
Dr. Russell Jeung, Author and Professor, New Hope Covenant Church*
David W. Kersten, Dean, North Park Theological Seminary, Chicago*
Kathy Khang, Writer, Speaker, Activist*
Larry Kim, Cambridge Community Fellowship Church*
Ambassador Jo Anne Lyon, General Superintendent Emerita, The Wesleyan Church*
Rev. Carlos Malave, Executive Director, Christian Churches Together in the USA*
Amelia Markham, Southeast organizer, The Reformation Project*
Rev. Michael A. Mata, Associate Pastor, Los Angeles First Church of the Nazarene*
Rev. Dr. Walter Arthur McCray, President, National Black Evangelical Association*
Rev. Brian D. McLaren, Author, former Pastor, Board Chair, Convergenceus.org*
David Neff, retired Editor-in-Chief, Christianity Today, former Vice Chair, National Association of Evangelicals*
Rev. Dr. James C. Perkins, President, Progressive National Baptist Convention*
Suzii Paynter, Executive Coordinator, Cooperative Baptist Fellowship*
Rev. Adam Phillips, Pastor, Christ Church, Portland*
Dr. Soong-Chan Rah, North Park Theological Seminary*
Dr. Brenda Salter McNeil*
Rev. Alexia Salvatierra, Faith-Rooted Organizing UnNetwork*
Scot Sherman, Executive Director, Newbigin House*
SueAnn Shiah, Musician, Writer, Filmmaker*
Rev. Dr. Ron Sider, President Emeritus, Evangelicals for Social Action*
Dr. Barbara Williams Skinner, President, Skinner Leadership Institute; Co-chair, National African American Clergy Network*
Andrea Smith, NAIITS*
Dr. T. Dewitt Smith, Jr., Co-Chair of the National African American Clergy Network, Former President of the Progressive National Baptist Convention, Inc.; Senior Pastor, Trinity Baptist Church of Metro Atlanta*
Maria-Jose Soerens, Executive Director, Puentes*
Rev. Gail Song-Bantum, Executive Pastor, Quest Church*
Rev. Margot Starbuck
Rev. David Swanson, New Community Covenant Church, Chicago*
Rev. Rod Thomas, ThM, Educator, writer at The Resist Daily*
Rev. Greg Thompson, Trinity Presbyterian Church*
Lenore Three Stars, Oglala Lakota*
Rev. Steven Timmermans, Executive Director, Christian Reformed Church in North America*
Rev. Jemar L. Tisby, President and Co-Founder, Reformed African American Network*
Rev. Dr. Al Tizon, North Park Theological Seminary*
Nikki Toyama-Szeto, Author and Speaker*
Rev. Harold Dean Trulear, National Director, Healing Communities USA*
Sandra Maria Van Opstal, Speaker, Author, Activist*
Rev. Gary VanderPol, Author, Senior Pastor, Church Without Walls, Berkeley, CA*
AnaYelsi Velasco-Sanchez, Organizing and Programs Director, The Reformation Project*
Rev. Richard Villodas, Pastor, New Life Fellowship*
Dr. Chanequa Walker-Barnes, Associate Professor of Practical Theology, McAfee School of Theology, Mercer University*
Rev. Jim Wallis, President and Founder, Sojourners*
Michelle Warren, Advocacy & Policy Engagement Director, CCDA*
Lisa Watson, CCDA*
Colin P. Watson Sr., Director of Ministries and Administration, Christian Reformed Church in North America*
Dr. Daniel White Hodge, Director of Center for Youth Ministry Studies and Associate Professor of Youth Ministry, North Park University*
Rev. Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove, Author and Director, School for Conversion*
Sarah Withrow King, Interim Director, Evangelicals for Social Action*
Dr. John D. Witvliet, Director, Calvin Institute of Christian Worship*
JR Woodward, Activist and Author*
Judy Wu Dominick, Writer, Activist*
Rev. Ken Wytsma, Lead Pastor, Antioch Church; President, Kilns College*
*Organizations and titles listed for identification purposes only and do not necessarily reflect the position of the institution.

https://www.change.org/p/donald-trump-a ... nald-trump

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 6m6 minutes ago
Certainly has been an interesting 24 hours!
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yes trump for a misogynistic pig who thinks admitting to committing a sexual assault crime is just...... interesting is extremely disgusting disturbingly interesting

ALL OVER BUT THE SHOUTING

Donald Trump Just Lost The Election

His numbers were already nosediving after a disastrous first debate performance, but the tape catching the candidate bragging about sexual assault has alienated key allies and confirms his critics’ suspicions.
John Avlon


10.08.16 8:27 AM ET

Mark down the date: October 7, 2016, is when Donald Trump lost the presidency.

I’m usually reluctant to play the pundit-prediction game but Independent and Republican women aren’t going to bounce back from this one. Not when the GOP nominee is caught on tape talking about hitting on a married woman “with big phony tits” “like a bitch” and how part of his M.O. is “grabbing pussy” because “when you’re a star” “you can do anything.”
This entire campaign has been an exercise of the electorate being slowly simmered in a pot of boiling water, losing our sense of outrage amid a steady of onslaught insults and lies. But sex and cruelty resonates in a way that financial scandals or demagoguery just don’t.
Character is what you do when nobody’s looking. And this video captures Trump in the middle of day, sober, a few months after being married, talking with a man he barely knows, bragging about sexual assault, while wearing a microphone.
This is, apparently, the real Donald Trump. So much for any claims to having “great judgment” and “the best temperament.” So much for indignant campaign spin, like the Baghdad Bob-esque denial issued from Trump Tower this week after allegations of sexism emerged from The Apprentice set: “These outlandish, unsubstantiated, and totally false claims fabricated by publicity hungry, opportunistic, disgruntled former employees, have no merit whatsoever.” Add to that the now-classic insincerity of “nobody respects women more than I do.”
Conservative supporters have been played for fools by Con Man Donald. Shouting back “Benghazi!” isn’t going to help. You can’t deflect; you have to deal with the reality of this situation. Even Mike Pence won’t be able to shake his head over this one to make it go away. Trump’s own VP nominee will have to distance himself from this particular disgrace because it cuts against his political brand and undercuts his 2020 ambitions.
For Republicans, this is a time to head to the lifeboats. The GOP has been preparing plans to run away from the top of the ticket in an attempt to save the senate and now it’s too late to replace their nominee. He is on the ballot. The modest gains Trump had made in September have been definitively dashed. The CNN/ORC poll issued after his disastrous first debate showed Trump trailing by 14 points among women, 9 points by independents and 27 points by moderates. These numbers are all going to nosedive further, and though I suspect Donald Trump will slightly outperform the polls on election day, all the self-inflicted wounds will prove too much to build a winning coalition beyond his populist base. On the most basic level of political math, Trump is losing support in the final stretch instead of winning new converts. This does not end well.
For all the #NeverTrump supporters who have been softening over the past few weeks, rationalizing why they must fall into line behind someone they know is irresponsible, and all the reluctant Republicans who feel that they have no political choice but to support their party’s nominee, remember what John F. Kennedy once said: “sometimes party loyalty asks too much.”
On Friday night, Utah Congressman Jason Chaffetz, who is leading the ongoing Hillary Clinton investigation/witch hunt in the House, revoked his endorsement of Trump along with his home state Governor and Utah Senator Mike Lee. Former Utah Governor and former presidential candidate Jon Huntsman, who had inexplicably endorsed The Donald, called on Trump to step down. Independent conservative presidential candidate Evan McMullen just had a good night as an anti-Trump and anti-Hillary alternative.
Now, Republicans who ought to know better, including Speaker of the House Paul Ryan and Senator John McCain will need to move beyond their reluctant endorsements and initial denunciations to actually revoke their support. This doesn’t mean endorsing Hillary Clinton, but it does mean taking responsibility for fixing what has gone so wrong for the Party of Lincoln that it fell for Con Man Donald.
This is the most devastating October surprise in history—with a far more visceral impact than Nixon’s secret ’68 negotiations with the Viet Cong, Iran’s final refusal to release the hostages in 1980, George W. Bush’s long-lost D.U.I., Hurricane Sandy or Mitt Romney’s 47% comments. The fact that it occurs against the first female presidential nominee just makes the contrast more politically lethal. The Clintons have always benefitted from enemies who ultimately over-reach and destroy themselves.
There will be more disasters ahead in the thirty days to the Election. There will be new tapes and emails, plot twists and insults. Sunday night’s second debate could serve up an epic ego meltdown on live TV. This surreal and sordid election has felt like a dystopian novel at times, A cross between “The Plot Against America” and “Amusing Ourselves to Death.” But in the end, an ancient bit of wisdom finally asserted its authority: Character is Destiny.

trump wanted to put an innocent 14 year old black kid to death

and still believes this to this day even though DNA evidence has cleared these men ...trump is a racist

[seemslikeadream]

Hugh Hewitt ‏@hughhewitt 41m41 minutes ago
For the benefit of the country, the party and his family, and for his own good, @realDonaldTrump should withdraw. More and worse oppo coming
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Trump to WSJ: "Zero Chance I'll Quit"

[LolaB]

Now for some lively television. Cracked me up.

https://mediamatters.org/video/2016/10/ ... her/213644

A Trump Apologist Told Ana Navarro Not To Say "Pussy" On CNN. It Didn't Go Well For Her.
Ana Navarro: "Don't Tell Me You're Offended When I Say 'Pussy,' But You're Not Offended When Donald Trump Says It. I'm Not Running For President, He Is"

[Wombaticus Rex]

I know that was just an example but Jesus Chipotle can't catch a break.

[dada]

I think what happens is, knowing Donald's racism and sexism is representative, a reflection of the racism and sexism of his followers, leads back to the society that allows it to grow and take root.

This is uncomfortable, because then it's our responsibility. And to do something effective would mean changing the way our society is structured from the ground up. And that would mean changing the way we think and act. We can't do that, because we like the system. We're well-off, we have internet access, and the time to type on a message board and stuff.

It's easier to look for top down solutions, knowing deep down they're all escape fantasies for powerless people. And we grumble about 'boss' while we work, like good little authoritarians. It's safe.

[82_28]

I know it's off topic and will refrain from here, but I will always have a soft spot in my heart for the now big corporation that is Chipotle. I used to go to the only one when there was only one in Denver. When I moved to Seattle people would ask what's the thing you miss most about Denver.

No Chipotle in Seattle.

I was so stoked when they opened their first one here. Now they're everywhere. So the point is moot.

[seemslikeadream]

well then you need this

[JackRiddler]

Bottom line: at this point both Hillary and Trump should be disqualified from the race.

Where does that leave us:

Exactly. All the people saying Trump is a disgusting rapist pig, I say "Yep, just like his best friend and Hillary Clinton's husband".

Insofar as B. Clinton really is the same, this illustrates the problem in a mass society (of 320 million people!) of only getting a choice among individuals who will be declared winners, rather than political and policy directions that will actually be followed.

There's no justifying Trump under either scenario.

[Luther Blissett]

Fuck would I love it if this shitty manque drops out and goes away forever. It bears repeating that rape is a sin for most religious people.

Women have no idea how many men talk to other men like this when they think their comments are falling on sympathetic ears. When you're young, challenges to statements like this often result in violence. Now it's usually backpedaling but in the back of my mind I'm always thinking that the guy is going to try to physically fight for his right to talk about raping women.

How many people do you think Trump has had killed? Do you think he's ever watched someone die?