Heaven Swan wrote:https://youtu.be/5sYGjoUcusM
Click on the link for the SNL skit....couldn't get the video to post
Thanks for this! ("Finally, a working mic.")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sYGjoUcusM
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by Cordelia » Sun Oct 09, 2016 2:11 pm
Heaven Swan wrote:https://youtu.be/5sYGjoUcusM
Click on the link for the SNL skit....couldn't get the video to post
by Freitag » Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:36 pm
Heaven Swan » Sun Oct 09, 2016 6:04 am wrote:https://youtu.be/5sYGjoUcusMIn a recent poll 70% of Americans said they'd be extremely anxious if Donald Trump won the election. The other 30% said they'd be Canadian.
by JackRiddler » Sun Oct 09, 2016 5:03 pm
Freitag » Sun Oct 09, 2016 2:36 pm wrote:Heaven Swan » Sun Oct 09, 2016 6:04 am wrote:https://youtu.be/5sYGjoUcusMIn a recent poll 70% of Americans said they'd be extremely anxious if Donald Trump won the election. The other 30% said they'd be Canadian.
Why do liberals always threaten to move to Canada but never Mexico? Sounds pretty racist to me.
I think liberals underestimate how much conservatives enjoy making them "extremely anxious".
When the Left freaks out over a candidate with hyperbole and histrionics, it makes the candidate more appealing because of the troll factor. I don't think SLAD understands how much I enjoy her posts about lefties hyperventilating over Trump.
by Wombaticus Rex » Sun Oct 09, 2016 5:35 pm
JackRiddler » Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:03 pm wrote:
Why do "conservatives" (unlike you I do not accept the binary for morons) like yourself never get humor?
by JackRiddler » Sun Oct 09, 2016 5:51 pm
Wombaticus Rex » Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:35 pm wrote:JackRiddler » Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:03 pm wrote:
Why do "conservatives" (unlike you I do not accept the binary for morons) like yourself never get humor?
The LULZ Gap is an interesting phenomenon, innit?
Some of it, I just attribute to taste -- like the Funny News People, post-John & Stephen, I take their fanbase to be a demographic that's a college educated version of that there Jeff Foxworthy, Jeff Dunham crowd. Some of it, like partisans of Laura Southern or Andy Borowitz, I take to be flat-out brain damaged: hell, they'd probably think sitcoms are funny.
What's been enabled in the audience is perhaps more important than the actual content of the show.
Yet being able to block out actual LULZ over politics amazes me. It's one hell of a magic trick and it's pretty common among people I know. I don't get how people could tell themselves that Ghostbusters remake wasn't funny. I enjoy Broad City as much as I enjoy Million Dollar Extreme.
by Nordic » Sun Oct 09, 2016 7:08 pm
I’ll give you my thoughts, in no particular order.
1. If this were anyone else, the election would be over. But keep in mind that Trump doesn’t need to outrun the bear. He only needs to outrun his camping buddy. There is still plenty of time for him to dismantle Clinton. If you think things are interesting now, just wait. There is lots more entertainment coming.
2. This was not a Trump leak. No one would invite this sort of problem into a marriage.
3. I assume that publication of this recording was okayed by the Clinton campaign. And if not, the public will assume so anyway. That opens the door for Trump to attack in a proportionate way. No more mister-nice-guy. Gloves are off. Nothing is out of bounds. It is fair to assume that Bill and Hillary are about to experience the worst weeks of their lives.
4. If nothing new happens between now and election day, Clinton wins. The odds of nothing new happening in that timeframe is exactly zero.
5. I assume that 75% of male heads of state, including our own past presidents, are total dogs in their private lives. Like it or not, Trump is normal in that world.
6. As fictional mob boss Tony Soprano once said in an argument with his wife, “You knew what you were getting when you married me!” Likewise, Trump’s third wife, Melania, knew what she was getting. It would be naive to assume Trump violated their understanding.
7. Another rich, famous, tall, handsome married guy once told me that he can literally make-out and get handsy with any woman he wants, whether she is married or not, and she will be happy about it. I doubted his ridiculous claims until I witnessed it three separate times. So don’t assume the women were unwilling. (Has anyone come forward to complain about Trump?) [Update: Yes, they have. That’s why I say this now.]
8. If the LGBTQ community wants to be a bit more inclusive, I don’t see why “polyamorous alpha male serial kisser” can’t be on the list. If you want to label Trump’s sexual behavior “abnormal” you’re on shaky ground.
9. Most men don’t talk like Trump. Most women don’t either. But based on my experience, I’m guessing a solid 20% of both genders say and do shockingly offensive things in private. Keep in mind that Billy Bush wasn’t shocked by it.
10. Most male Hollywood actors support Clinton. Those acting skills will come in handy because starting today they have to play the roles of people who do not talk and act exactly like Trump in private.
11. I’m adding context to the discussion, not condoning it. Trump is on his own to explain his behavior.
12. Clinton supporters hated Trump before this latest outrage. Trump supporters already assumed he was like this. Independents probably assumed it too. Before you make assumptions about how this changes the election, see if anyone you know changes their vote because of it. All I have seen so far is people laughing about it.
12. I hereby change my endorsement from Trump to Gary Johnson, just to get out of the blast zone. Others will be “parking” their vote with Johnson the same way. The “shy Trump supporter” demographic just tripled.
13. My prediction of a 98% chance of Trump winning stays the same. Clinton just took the fight to Trump’s home field. None of this was a case of clever strategy or persuasion on Trump’s part. But if the new battleground is spousal fidelity, you have to like Trump’s chances.
14. Trump wasn’t running for Pope. He never claimed moral authority. His proposition has been that he’s an asshole (essentially), but we need an asshole to fight ISIS, ignore lobbyists, and beat up Congress. Does it change anything to have confirmation that he is exactly what you thought he was?
My thoughts above have more to do with reason than persuasion. And that means you can ignore all of it because reason is not part of decision-making when it comes to politics. On the persuasion level, all that matters is whether this new development changes what you already assumed about Trump.
Personally, it didn’t change what I assumed about Trump’s personal life. Your mileage may vary.
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by 8bitagent » Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:09 pm
by Nordic » Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:13 pm
by seemslikeadream » Mon Oct 10, 2016 1:40 am
‘Everything Trump touches dies’
Trump’s turbulent campaign, on display here at Sunday night’s second presidential debate with Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, has damaged far more than his own White House prospects. It threatens to diminish an entire generation of Republican leaders who stood by him and excused his behavior after attacks against women, the disabled, Latino immigrants, Muslim Americans, Syrian refugees, prisoners of war, Gold Star parents and others.
“There is nobody who holds any position of responsibility who in private conversations views Donald Trump as equipped mentally, morally and intellectually to be the president of the United States,” said Steve Schmidt, a veteran GOP strategist. “But scores of Republican leaders have failed a fundamental test of moral courage and political leadership in not speaking truth to the American people about what is so obvious.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html
by seemslikeadream » Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:16 am
Trump wanted to put Bill Clinton’s accusers in his family box. Debate officials said no.
By Robert Costa, Dan Balz and Philip Rucker October 10 at 2:07 AM
ST. LOUIS — Donald Trump’s campaign sought to intimidate Hillary Clinton and embarrass her husband by seating women who have accused former president Bill Clinton of sexual abuse in the Trump family’s box at the presidential debate here Sunday night, according to four people involved in the discussions.
The campaign’s plan, which was closely held and unknown to several of Trump’s top aides, was thwarted just minutes before it could be executed when officials with the Commission on Presidential Debates intervened.
The commission officials warned that, if the Trump campaign tried to seat the accusers in the elevated family box, security officers would remove the women, according to the people involved, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the discussions were confidential.
The gambit to give Bill Clinton’s accusers prime seats was devised by Trump campaign chief executive Stephen K. Bannon and Jared Kushner, the candidate’s son-in-law, and approved personally by Trump.
The four women — three of whom have alleged Bill Clinton sexually assaulted or harassed them years ago — were to walk in the debate hall at the same time as the 42nd president and confront him in front of a national television audience.
“We were going to put the four women in the VIP box,” said former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani, who represents Trump in debate negotiations. “We had it all set. We wanted to have them shake hands with Bill, to see if Bill would shake hands with them.”
The four women —Paula Jones, Juanita Broaddrick, Kathleen Willey and Kathy Shelton – sat with other ticketed members of the audience. Bill Clinton long has denied their allegations.
Frank J. Fahrenkopf, the debate commission’s co-chairman and a former Republican National Committee chairman, caught wind of the plot on Sunday and immediately moved to put an end to it. Fahrenkopf tartly warned a Trump staffer that if the campaign tried to put the four women in the family box, security personnel would remove them, according to people with direct knowledge of the conversations.
“Fahrenkopf said, ‘no’ – verbally said ‘no,’ that ‘security would throw them out,’” Giuliani said.
That came shortly after commission officials told the Clinton campaign that they could not seat Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) with Bill and Chelsea Clinton and her husband, Marc Mesvinsky, in the Clinton family box.
The discussions continued up until the debate programming began. After issuing his warning, Fahrenkopf and co-chairman Mike McCurry, a former Clinton White House press secretary, took the stage to make pre-debate announcements. At that point, the co-chairmen were not certain whether the Trump campaign would abide by Fahrenkopf’s order. A Republican strategist later said that it was only when Fahrenkopfsaw Giuliani leading the women to other seats that he knew the campaign had backed down.
Giuliani said Bannon kept pushing to have the women come out until three minutes before the debate began.
“But we pulled it because we were going to have a big incident on national TV,” Giuliani said. “Frank Fahrenkopf stopped us and we weren’t going to have a fight on national TV with the commission to start the debate.”
Bannon declined to comment late Sunday, but his role in coming up with the idea was confirmed by multiple Trump campaign advisers.
Senior Clinton campaign officials said they were unaware of the Trump campaign’s plans to try to seat the women in the family box.
Giuliani was highly critical of Fahrenkopf in an interview after the debate Sunday and said the Trump campaign is considering asking for him to step aside before the third and final debate, scheduled for Sept. 19 in Las Vegas.
Giuliani said it was unfair that the commission allowed Mark Cuban, a billionaire Trump tormenter and Clinton surrogate, to sit in the front row, but would not permit Bill Clinton’s accusers to sit in Trump’s family box.
“In the first debate with Mark Cuban, Fahrenkop said we’ll make a deal and everybody will [be able] to approve who’s in the shot and if it’s not family, they have a right to object and we have a right to object,” Giuliani said. “So we object. But 10 minutes before that debate he tells us he can’t do anything about Cuban sitting in the first row, that security can’t throw him out.”
Giuliani said that experience led them to believe the campaigns could control their seats. However, the staging of the second debate differed from the first. In St. Louis, family members sat in an elevated box, while in Hempstead, N.Y., they were seated in the front row with other attendees.
“The women were outraged,” Giuliani said. “They were in the holding room and ready to go. No one was pushing them. They volunteered. But I knew the minute we got pushback that we had gotten into their heads. [Hillary Clinton] was rattled. They were rattled.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... ?tid=sm_tw
by 8bitagent » Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:04 am
seemslikeadream » Mon Oct 10, 2016 1:16 am wrote:Trump wanted to put Bill Clinton’s accusers in his family box. Debate officials said no.
By Robert Costa, Dan Balz and Philip Rucker October 10 at 2:07 AM
ST. LOUIS — Donald Trump’s campaign sought to intimidate Hillary Clinton and embarrass her husband by seating women who have accused former president Bill Clinton of sexual abuse in the Trump family’s box at the presidential debate here Sunday night, according to four people involved in the discussions.
The campaign’s plan, which was closely held and unknown to several of Trump’s top aides, was thwarted just minutes before it could be executed when officials with the Commission on Presidential Debates intervened.
The commission officials warned that, if the Trump campaign tried to seat the accusers in the elevated family box, security officers would remove the women, according to the people involved, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the discussions were confidential.
The gambit to give Bill Clinton’s accusers prime seats was devised by Trump campaign chief executive Stephen K. Bannon and Jared Kushner, the candidate’s son-in-law, and approved personally by Trump.
The four women — three of whom have alleged Bill Clinton sexually assaulted or harassed them years ago — were to walk in the debate hall at the same time as the 42nd president and confront him in front of a national television audience.
“We were going to put the four women in the VIP box,” said former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani, who represents Trump in debate negotiations. “We had it all set. We wanted to have them shake hands with Bill, to see if Bill would shake hands with them.”
The four women —Paula Jones, Juanita Broaddrick, Kathleen Willey and Kathy Shelton – sat with other ticketed members of the audience. Bill Clinton long has denied their allegations.
Frank J. Fahrenkopf, the debate commission’s co-chairman and a former Republican National Committee chairman, caught wind of the plot on Sunday and immediately moved to put an end to it. Fahrenkopf tartly warned a Trump staffer that if the campaign tried to put the four women in the family box, security personnel would remove them, according to people with direct knowledge of the conversations.
“Fahrenkopf said, ‘no’ – verbally said ‘no,’ that ‘security would throw them out,’” Giuliani said.
That came shortly after commission officials told the Clinton campaign that they could not seat Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) with Bill and Chelsea Clinton and her husband, Marc Mesvinsky, in the Clinton family box.
The discussions continued up until the debate programming began. After issuing his warning, Fahrenkopf and co-chairman Mike McCurry, a former Clinton White House press secretary, took the stage to make pre-debate announcements. At that point, the co-chairmen were not certain whether the Trump campaign would abide by Fahrenkopf’s order. A Republican strategist later said that it was only when Fahrenkopfsaw Giuliani leading the women to other seats that he knew the campaign had backed down.
Giuliani said Bannon kept pushing to have the women come out until three minutes before the debate began.
“But we pulled it because we were going to have a big incident on national TV,” Giuliani said. “Frank Fahrenkopf stopped us and we weren’t going to have a fight on national TV with the commission to start the debate.”
Bannon declined to comment late Sunday, but his role in coming up with the idea was confirmed by multiple Trump campaign advisers.
Senior Clinton campaign officials said they were unaware of the Trump campaign’s plans to try to seat the women in the family box.
Giuliani was highly critical of Fahrenkopf in an interview after the debate Sunday and said the Trump campaign is considering asking for him to step aside before the third and final debate, scheduled for Sept. 19 in Las Vegas.
Giuliani said it was unfair that the commission allowed Mark Cuban, a billionaire Trump tormenter and Clinton surrogate, to sit in the front row, but would not permit Bill Clinton’s accusers to sit in Trump’s family box.
“In the first debate with Mark Cuban, Fahrenkop said we’ll make a deal and everybody will [be able] to approve who’s in the shot and if it’s not family, they have a right to object and we have a right to object,” Giuliani said. “So we object. But 10 minutes before that debate he tells us he can’t do anything about Cuban sitting in the first row, that security can’t throw him out.”
Giuliani said that experience led them to believe the campaigns could control their seats. However, the staging of the second debate differed from the first. In St. Louis, family members sat in an elevated box, while in Hempstead, N.Y., they were seated in the front row with other attendees.
“The women were outraged,” Giuliani said. “They were in the holding room and ready to go. No one was pushing them. They volunteered. But I knew the minute we got pushback that we had gotten into their heads. [Hillary Clinton] was rattled. They were rattled.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... ?tid=sm_tw
by seemslikeadream » Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:04 am
by Searcher08 » Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:22 am
seemslikeadream » Mon Oct 10, 2016 1:04 pm wrote:go ahead blame a woman for her husbands deeds.....nice
now I understand you better
by seemslikeadream » Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:25 am
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