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by General Patton » Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:51 pm
stillrobertpaulsen » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:50 pm wrote:General Patton » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:42 pm wrote:
Vinay Gupta has his short analysis up, I've been saying such in private since before May.
https://twitter.com/leashless/status/785447056353726465
https://twitter.com/leashless/status/785474340678696961
But yeah, no election.
Not satire? You and Vinay Gupta (whoever he is) actually believe that?
One more question: are you a betting man?
by PufPuf93 » Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:54 pm
General Patton » Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:42 am wrote:
Vinay Gupta has his short analysis up, I've been saying such in private since before May.
https://twitter.com/leashless/status/785447056353726465
https://twitter.com/leashless/status/785474340678696961
But yeah, no election.
by stillrobertpaulsen » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:00 pm
General Patton » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:51 pm wrote:stillrobertpaulsen » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:50 pm wrote:General Patton » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:42 pm wrote:
Vinay Gupta has his short analysis up, I've been saying such in private since before May.
https://twitter.com/leashless/status/785447056353726465
https://twitter.com/leashless/status/785474340678696961
But yeah, no election.
Not satire? You and Vinay Gupta (whoever he is) actually believe that?
One more question: are you a betting man?
Already made mine months ago.
by seemslikeadream » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:02 pm
Follow
Vinay Gupta
@leashless
.@prestonjbyrne Oh yeah, I'm absolutely talking about constitutional crisis on that level - not tanks in the streets, but executive action.
by Wombaticus Rex » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:48 pm
PufPuf93 » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:54 pm wrote:
This Vinay Gupta?
http://re.silience.com/
What did Gupta do in DC?
by seemslikeadream » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:08 pm
Vinay Gupta
@leashless
Ok here's my prediction for the US election: there won't be a decisive result and the military will install someone like Petraeus #noted
by PufPuf93 » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:18 pm
Wombaticus Rex » Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:48 pm wrote:PufPuf93 » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:54 pm wrote:
This Vinay Gupta?
http://re.silience.com/
What did Gupta do in DC?
1. Yes, that Vinay Gupta. (Reasonable to ask considering there's easily 10,000 men by that name).
2. What he did in DC was try to change the system. Probably why he's in finance now.
by Iamwhomiam » Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:44 pm
by seemslikeadream » Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:56 pm
by Iamwhomiam » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:54 pm
by seemslikeadream » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:02 pm
Iamwhomiam » Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:54 pm wrote:No. That happens after Trump is elected President of the New Knighted States of Merika.
by seemslikeadream » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:06 pm
2 Women Come Forward With Donald Trump Groping Allegations
Trump says his boasts of sexual assault were just talk. These two women say it happened to them.
10/12/2016 07:44 pm ET
Mollie Reilly
Deputy Politics Editor, The Huffington Post
The New York Times is out with a bombshell report on two women who say Donald Trump groped them.
Jessica Leeds and Rachel Crooks spoke to the Times on the record about their encounters with the reality TV star. Both had told close friends of being assaulted by Trump, but neither had gone public with their story until Wednesday.
Leeds, now 74, said she was seated next to Trump on an airplane three decades ago when the businessman grabbed her breasts and attempted to reach up her skirt.
“He was like an octopus,” she told the Times. “His hands were everywhere.”
Crooks, who was working as a receptionist for a firm located in Trump Tower in 2005, said she met Trump outside an elevator in the building. According to Crooks, Trump shook her hand and would not let go, and then started kissing her on the mouth.
Read the full New York Times story here.
Trump’s senior communications adviser, Jason Miller, called the Times article “fiction” and appeared to accuse the newspaper of plotting on behalf of Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.
“For the New York Times to launch a completely false, coordinated character assassination against Mr. Trump on a topic like this is dangerous,” Miller said in a statement. He added: ”It is absurd to think that one of the most recognizable business leaders on the planet with a strong record of empowering women in his companies would do the things alleged in this story, and for this to only become public decades later in the final month of a campaign for president should say it all.”
Trump himself vehemently denied the allegations in an interview with the Times. He threatened to sue the paper if it published the story and called a Times reporter a “disgusting human being.”
“I don’t do it. I don’t do it,” he told the paper of his remarks about groping women on a 2005 recording that was released Friday. “It was locker room talk.”
The Washington Post on Friday published the 2005 recording in which Trump boasted of kissing women without their consent and grabbing them “by the pussy.” The recording upended the presidential campaign and many people, including Vice President Joe Biden, pointed out that Trump’s brag constituted sexual assault.
Asked about the tape during Sunday’s debate with Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, Trump denied sexually abusing anyone.
“Women have respect for me, and I will tell you: No, I have not,” Trump replied when asked by moderator Anderson Cooper if he had actually done the things he talked about in the recording.
Trump has been repeatedly accused of groping women, with allegations dating back decades. Temple Taggart, a contestant in a Trump-owned beauty pageant, said earlier this year he kissed her on the mouth without her consent in 1997. CNN’s Erin Burnett recounted a similar story last week about a friend who said Trump tried to kiss her during a meeting in 2010.
“Trump took Tic Tacs, suggested I take them also,” Burnett said her friend told her. “He then leaned in, catching me off guard, and kissed me almost on lips. I was really freaked out.”
And Jill Harth, a former model, said Trump groped her under a table and attempted to force himself on her at his Mar-a-Lago estate. Trump has denied these allegations.
Read more: Trump Denied Ever Sexually Abusing Anyone. But Plenty Of Women Say Otherwise.
Editor’s note: Donald Trump regularly incites political violence and is a serial liar, rampant xenophobe, racist, misogynist and birther who has repeatedly pledged to ban all Muslims — 1.6 billion members of an entire religion — from entering the U.S.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/don ... 2c0439d535
Former Miss Arizona: Trump ‘just came strolling right in’ on naked contestants
By Fred Barbash October 12 at 7:18 AM
Former Miss Arizona claims Trump walked in on 'naked' contestants Play Video0:48
Former Miss Arizona Tasha Dixon claimed Donald Trump came “waltzing in” while contestants were nude or half-nude as they changed into bikinis. Trump owned the Miss USA pageant when Dixon was a contestant in 2001. (Reuters)
Updated with response from Trump campaign.
On an April 11, 2005, airing of “The Howard Stern Show,” Donald Trump bragged about some of the special perks he enjoyed while he was owner of the Miss USA pageant. They came not in a locker room but a dressing room.
“I’ll go backstage before a show, and everyone’s getting dressed and ready and everything else,” he said. “And you know, no men are anywhere. And I’m allowed to go in because I’m the owner of the pageant. And therefore I’m inspecting it.”
Stern replied, “You’re like a doctor.”
Trump responded: “Is everyone okay? You know they’re standing there with no clothes. And you see these incredible-looking women. And so I sort of get away with things like that.”
CNN broke the story of his Stern show comments.
CBS 2 Los Angeles did a little fact-checking and, guess what, this time, no Pinocchios. Tasha Dixon, Miss Arizona in 2001, told the TV station that Trump just came “waltzing in” while contestants were nude or half-nude as they changed into bikinis.
Separately, BuzzFeed News reported Wednesday that four women in the 1997 Miss Teen USA beauty pageant said Trump walked into their dressing room while they were changing. Some were as young as 15, BuzzFeed reported.
Three spoke anonymously, and one allowed her name to be used. “I remember putting on my dress really quick because I was like, ‘Oh my god, there’s a man in here,'” Mariah Billado, a former Miss Vermont Teen USA, told BuzzFeed.
Trump, she told BuzzFeed News, said “something like ‘Don’t worry, ladies, I’ve seen it all before.'”
And BuzzFeed reported that 11 more women who had been contestants in the 1997 Miss Teen USA pageant said they “did not recall seeing Trump in the dressing room. Some said they do not believe he could have been there.”
A spokesman for the Trump campaign denied all the claims late Wednesday in a statement:
These accusations have no merit and have already been disproven by many other individuals who were present. When you see questionable attacks like this magically put out there in the final month of a presidential campaign, you have to ask yourself what the political motivations are and why the media is pushing it.
As for Tasha Dixon, she only confirmed what Trump told Howard Stern, except with detail. She described to the Los Angeles TV station her experience with Trump as a contestant in 2001 in a dressing room where she and others were changing into bikinis:
He just came strolling right in. There was no second to put a robe on or any sort of clothing or anything. Some girls were topless. Others girls were naked.
Our first introduction to him was when we were at the dress rehearsal and half naked changing into our bikinis.
To have the owner come waltzing in, when we’re naked, or half naked, in a very physically vulnerable position and then to have the pressure of the people that worked for him telling us to go fawn all over him, go walk up to him, talk to him, get his attention.
She suggested that such opportunities were among the reasons Trump owned beauty pageants.
I’m telling you Donald Trump owned the pageant for the reasons to utilize his power to get around beautiful women. Who do you complain to? He owns the pageant. There’s no one to complain to. Everyone there works for him.
The former Miss Teen USA contestant, Billado, told BuzzFeed News she saw Trump’s intrusion as “more of a pompous ‘I own this place’ rather than a perverted thing.”
The Trump campaign spokesman, in addition to denying the claims, noted that the Buzzfeed news article quoted “many other contestants” who “disputed the veracity” them.
Below you can hear Trump and Stern in their own voices:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mor ... onal_pop_b
by seemslikeadream » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:17 pm
TRUTHINESS
Sexism: The Only Thing Donald Trump Hasn’t Lied About
Trump’s dismissed his comments about assaulting women as “locker-room talk” but as stories of his real-life harassment emerge, it looks like his brags to Billy Bush are the closest thing to truth we’ve ever heard from him.
Erin Gloria Ryan
10.12.16 12:43 PM ET
Donald Trump’s relationship with the truth is about as functional as his relationship with his daughter Tiffany. They’re not complete strangers; sometimes he’ll send it a postcard or give it a call, but they spend most of their time on opposite coasts. But there’s one thing about which the GOP presidential nominee always tells the truth: treating women like garbage.
During the second presidential debate on Monday, Trump insisted that the comments he made to Billy Bush before an Access Hollywood taping in 2005, wherein he bragged about grabbing attractive women “by the pussy” or kissing them without their consent, were lies. “That is sexual assault,” co-moderator Anderson Cooper said. “You bragged that you have sexually assaulted women.”
“I don’t think you understood,” replied Trump. “This was locker-room talk.”
In the ensuing days, it’s certainly appeared that there was a little more to what Trump said than “talk.” On the same day the tape surfaced, CNN’s Erin Burnett recounted the story of her friend, who says Donald Trump once grabbed and tried to kiss her, just like he bragged about. He even used the same breath freshening technique he told Bush he used in the Access Hollywood tape. "Trump took a Tic Tac, suggesting I take them also,” said Burnett, reading from a message her friend sent her. “He then leaned in, catching me off guard, and kissed me almost on the lips.”
A 1997 lawsuit from former business associate Jill Harth alleges a pattern of behavior exactly in line with what Trump told Bush he engages in. According to the complaint, Trump made several unwelcome advances on Harth, including groping her on multiple occasions. The suit also claims Trump attempted to rape her.
But that’s not the only vintage Trump quote about crossing women’s boundaries without their consent. In a Howard Stern interview recently rediscovered by CNN’s KFile, Trump boasted about walking into the changing rooms of pageants he owned. “I’ll tell you the funniest is that I’ll go backstage before a show and everyone’s getting dressed. No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it. … And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”
Turns out Trump’s brag about that particular flavor of misogyny also bears out. On Wednesday, Buzzfeed published a story about Trump entering changing rooms at his Miss Teen USA pageant when he was the owner. 1997 Miss Vermont Teen USA, told the publication, “I remember putting on my dress really quick because I was like, ‘Oh my god, there’s a man in here.” Three other contestants from that year corroborated her claim that Trump entered the changing room where, as Buzzfeed notes, contestants as young as 14 were changing in relatively open space.
Trump didn’t limit his changing room strolls to a pageant for underaged girls. Miss Arizona USA 2001 Tasha Dixon told an L.A. TV station that he pulled the same stunt with adult women, too (although, in this case, the line between “adult” and “underaged” is pretty thin; Dixon was 18 at the time). She told CBSLA, “Our first introduction to him was when we were at the dress rehearsal and half-naked, changing into our bikinis. He just came strolling right in. There was no second to put a robe on or any sort of clothing or anything. Some girls were topless. Other girls were naked.”
Critics of Trump may say he lies about his wealth, about how much he’s paid in taxes, about his business dealings, about President Obama’s birthplace, about Ted Cruz’s dad’s involvement in the Kennedy assassination, and about the record of his opponent Hillary Clinton. At least he has his many truthful claims about behaving like a sexist pig to fluff his Politifact score.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... about.html
by Belligerent Savant » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:22 pm
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