RUBBERNECKING.
A microcosm of the pathology inherent in our reaction to this election season...
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by Belligerent Savant » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:29 pm
by Iamwhomiam » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:32 pm
seemslikeadream » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:02 pm wrote:Iamwhomiam » Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:54 pm wrote:No. That happens after Trump is elected President of the New Knighted States of Merika.
and we are all speaking Russian?
and get a puppy
by dada » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:41 pm
Jack wrote:It's a conundrum. You can't say his expressions or the actual behaviors he is bragging about are unique. They do reflect a kind of male mentality that is widespread, and they explicitly reflect the power and impunity of rich men, since after all he says one can do these things and fear no consequences "when you are a star." It's hard to find the proper weighting between condemning it as individually repulsive (and possibly indicating actionable criminal acts), recognizing that there is something systemic in it and that this also must be addressed, yet not falling into the trap of those who would accept it as normal because so many do it. That is Trump's own excuse, it's just a normal kind of "talk" in certain contexts that can be seen as exclusive from others.
by Wombaticus Rex » Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:44 pm
Belligerent Savant » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:29 pm wrote:.
RUBBERNECKING.
A microcosm of the pathology inherent in our reaction to this election season...
by Belligerent Savant » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:05 am
by JackRiddler » Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:17 am
by seemslikeadream » Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:31 am
What we can still learn from sexual harassment
By Anita F. Hill OCTOBER 11, 2016
TWENTY-FIVE YEARS ago Tuesday, amid a hotly contested political battle over a Supreme Court vacancy, I testified before Senate Judiciary Committee about the sexually harassing behavior of the nominee, Clarence Thomas. As being a target of harassment wasn’t bad enough, I was then victimized a second time by a smear campaign meant to protect the nomination. Stunningly, people wondered aloud why his behavior mattered in a hearing about his character and fitness. To its credit, the country eventually looked beyond politics and began a difficult conversation about sexual harassment and other workplace abuses women experience regularly.
This weekend, questions of a woman’s right to bodily integrity are again in the news. On Friday, the nation collectively recoiled upon watching Donald Trump lewdly boast to Billy Bush about being able to kiss, grope or “do anything” he wants to women. On one hand, the mere fact that this is considered newsworthy shows that we have come a long way since 1991. On the other hand, the fact that large swaths of Americans believe this to be even vaguely defensible is no different than what many women recount in their claims of sexual harassment and in some cases worse.
What I learned in 1991 is no less true today and no less important for people to understand: responses to sexual harassment and other forms of sexual violence must start with a belief that women matter as much as the powerful men they encounter at work or at school, whether those men are bosses or professors, colleagues or fellow students.
We must understand the harm that sexual harassment and sexual violence causes. Missing from the conversation this weekend, which focused almost exclusively on the character of the offender, was concern about the victims of sexual violence. At virtually every dinner table this weekend, people talked about what should happen to Donald Trump’s political ambitions. But little consideration was given to what impact the brutish behavior he claimed to have had on the women he victimized. How many of them talked about Arianne Zucker, the young woman in the leaked video who Bush cajoled into hugging the same two men who had just joked about forcibly kissing her? Did she know she was the butt of a sexual gag? Or did we wonder what happened to Nancy O’Dell, the woman who rejected Trump’s advances?
A recent Equal Employment Opportunity Commission Task Force reported on the psychological, physical, occupational, and economic harm that victims of sexual harassment suffer. Since 1991, I’ve heard from thousands of women who have experienced harassing bosses and colleagues. Some overcome the situations, but none of them ever forget the pain of it. To understand why the way women are treated matters, we must view Donald Trump’s comments and the behavior he described from the point of view of a victim of sexual predation.
Trump’s language, which he and others have tried to minimize as “locker room banter,” is predatory and hostile. To excuse it as that or as youthful indiscretion or overzealous romantic interest normalizes male sexual violence. According to attorney Joe Sellers, a member of the EEOC Task Force, “Trump’s remarks reflect the quintessential mindset of a harasser: the view that he has certain privileges and power by virtue of his celebrity status and position.” (Full disclosure: Joe Sellers is also the head of the civil rights and employment practice at Cohen, Milstein, Sellers & Toll, the law firm for which I am of counsel.) I’m encouraged that a number of men have soundly rejected Trump’s characterization of his comments.
That Trump apparently believes that being a “star” entitles him to engage in illegal and demeaning behavior is not surprising. Unfortunately, high profile situations, like that of Roger Ailes who got a $40 million severance payment from Fox after the company found evidence that he harassed Gretchen Carlson, reinforce the idea. Too often employers mete out light punishment to abusive “star” employees no matter how egregious, persistent or severe the behavior. And take for example, the six-month jail sentence of former Stanford University student Brock Turner who was found guilty for sexually assaulting an unconscious woman. His sentence was an insult to women and to justice. Whether the context is a political campaign or not, in order to prevent illegal behavior, all perpetrators should be held fully accountable for their misconduct.
I would like to see us grapple with these questions outside of the fierce political pitch of a presidential election cycle that, even before this tape surfaced, reflected the worst political behavior in modern history. Regardless, this backdrop does not relieve us of the responsibility to leverage this moment to help guard against sexual harassment and assault. Indeed, it may help us with lower profile sexual misconduct situations that are frequently intertwined with workplace or academic power politics.
Today’s conversation that must extend far beyond the presidential election. We have made strides in how we think about sexual violence but we’re nowhere close to done. As Joe Sellers said, “lurking under the political debate is a question about behavioral expectations that we have for ourselves as a society.” Let’s be sure that this latest episode keeps us moving in the right direction.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016 ... story.html
Postby 82_28 » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:50 am
Most of Jeff's posts to FB atm are about the US election if you're not following him. Many of our Canadian brethren are just as into this as we are. Don't want to be, but we've been forced into this.
by seemslikeadream » Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:54 am
While America Was Riveted by P*ssygate, Trump Called for Incarceration of Innocent Minorities - And Almost No One Noticed
Trump made his first foray into public policy arena with a call for execution of men falsely accused of a brutal rape.
By Nathalie Baptiste / AlterNet October 11, 2016
Sexual assault is a horrible injustice. So is wrongful imprisonment by a racially biased law enforcement system. On Friday, October 7, the world learned that Republican presidential nominee Donald J. Trump bragged about committing the former, and endorsed the latter. Guess which one set the world on fire?
As the nation focused its attention last Friday on Donald Trump’s just-revealed boasts about how his supposed stardom allowed him to sexually assault women, the media pundits and Republicans condemning him largely ignored Trump’s comments reported earlier that day about five young men of color—all teenagers—who were wrongfully imprisoned for years for the brutal 1989 rape and beating of Trisha Meili, a white investment banker, in New York City’s Central Park. Together, the teens became known as the Central Park Five. Trump had famously taken out full-page ads in the New York Daily News and The New York Times that described New York as a hellscape filled with “roving bands of wild criminals,” and implicitly called for the execution of the five teens—four of them black, and one a Latino. “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!” the ad’s headline screamed.
In 2014, the City of New York settled a lawsuit brought by the men, who had served between six and 13 years in prison; DNA evidence exonerated them and proved another man guilty of the crime. But Donald Trump told CNN last week that he wasn’t buying it. Even though it’s well-established that the confessions made by the teens the night they were rounded up by police were coerced, Trump simply doubled down. "They admitted they were guilty," he said in a statement to CNN's Miguel Marquez.
During the police interrogation of the Central Park 5, Yousef Salaam, one of those charged with the crime, told The Guardian that he could hear police beating co-defendant Korey Wise, in the next room. “They would come and look at me and say: ‘You realize you’re next,’” said Salaam. “The fear made me feel really like I was not going to be able to make it out.” Salaam was 15 years old at the time of his arrest.
“I want to hate these muggers and murderers. They should be forced to suffer and, when they kill, they should be executed for their crimes,” Trump wrote in the 1989 ad that bears his signature.
In other words, if Trump had gotten his way, five boys of color could have been executed for a crime they didn’t commit. Yet his undoubtedly racist comments last week barely caused a ripple. Racism has become such a pervasive part of his campaign that his doubling down barely made the news.
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The media frenzy surrounding the Central Park rape marked Donald Trump’s first foray into the realm of public policy. Trump reportedly spent $85,000 on the advertisements.
“I recently watched a newscast trying to explain ‘the anger in these young men’,” Trump wrote in his 1989 manifesto. “I no longer want to understand their anger. I want them to understand our anger. I want them to be afraid.” New York City’s black and brown people heard the message loud and clear.
In 2002 the Central Park 5 were vindicated by DNA evidence and the confession of the actual rapist. Donald Trump never apologized for his racially charged comments or the full-page ads; instead he used them as a selling point for his 2016 presidential bid.
His highest-level supporters seem to see nothing wrong with Trump calling for the execution of innocent teenagers or explaining how he’s free to assault women because he’s a “star.” Trump surrogate Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., said on Monday that he didn’t believe that grabbing someone “by the pussy,” as, in 2005, Trump told Billy Bush he was entitled to do, constituted sexual assault. This is the same Jeff Sessions who, with far less notice by media, lauded Trump for placing those 1989 ads. During an appearance on Matt & Aunie show on Alabama’s WAPI radio after Trump’s big August 17 law-and-order speech in West Bend, Wisconsin, Sessions said of Trump’s performance, “That speech was great. And Trump has always been this way,” Sessions told the Birmingham radio audience, citing the 1989 ads as his evidence. Sessions went on to praise Trump for having the willpower to call for the death penalty in a “liberal bastion” like New York City, something, he said, only a conservative would do. “So he believes in law and order,” Sessions continued, “and he has the strength and will to make this country safer.”
Trump, pulling a page from the Richard Nixon playbook, may brand himself as “the law-and-order candidate,” but wanting innocent men to be imprisoned for a brutal crime they clearly didn’t commit shows that he either doesn’t understand how the law works, thinks it should be applied differently to people of color, or a dangerous combination of both. It all plays well, of course, to his mostly white base, whose fears he loves to stoke.
While top Republicans—from failed presidential candidate Mitt Romney to Utah Governor Gary Herbert—were fretting over the potential horror of men like Trump groping their wives and daughters,Trump’s unfettered hatred of racial minorities once again went unchecked by the party of family values.
Very few Republicans saw fit to jump ship when Trump called Mexican immigrants criminals and rapists or when he proposed banning Muslims from entering the country. The fact that white nationalists finally feel like they have a candidate who accurately represents their views didn’t cause a mass exodus of GOP leaders, and barely any Republicans mentioned the Central Park Five comments while trying to take the moral high road this weekend. And why would they? Racism in the Republican Party is a feature, not a bug.
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/d ... men-guilty
A Russian Dissident Explains How Trump’s Campaign Is Straight out of ‘Many Dictators’ Playbooks’
"I’m the one who can fix it. Don’t ask me how.”
By Brad Reed / Raw Story October 12, 2016
Donald Trump’s admiration for Russian President Vladimir Putin has been disturbing for many Americans, and one Russian dissident believes that we are right to be worried about it.
Garry Kasparov, a political activist and former World Chess Champion, talked with CNN’s Chris Cuomo on Wednesday about the similarities he sees between the ways that Trump talks about himself and the way dictators across the world have talked about themselves just before they took power.
“Trump demonstrates, time and again, disrespect for democratic procedures,” Kasparov said. “It comes from many dictators’ playbooks — they address real pains. The issues that Donald Trump raised throughout the campaign, they are real… Then you hear — and that’s typical for every dictator to be a dictator — ‘I’m the one who can fix it. Don’t ask me how.'”
He then pointed out that many of Trump’s promises typically go against democratic norms, such as the mass expulsion of undocumented immigrants and the proposed ban on all Muslims entering into the country.
If there’s anything good about what’s happening in this country, says Kasparov, it’s that Trump has been forced to get into debates with his opponent, which is something that Putin has never had to do during his tenure as Russia’s leader.
http://www.alternet.org/video/russian-d ... -playbooks
Postby 82_28 » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:50 am
Most of Jeff's posts to FB atm are about the US election if you're not following him. Many of our Canadian brethren are just as into this as we are. Don't want to be, but we've been forced into this.
by seemslikeadream » Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:17 am
In 2004, Trump agreed his daughter was a ‘piece of ass’
http://www.timesofisrael.com/in-2004-tr ... ce-of-ass/
Trump Shows How Right-wingers Can Love Israel and Hate the Jews
The guide at the National Museum of American Jewish History in Philadelphia was explaining the exhibit that shows American anti-Semitism in the 1920’s and 1930’s. She told her group about the incendiary broadcasts of Father Charles Coughlin, of the rabidly anti-Jewish newspaper put out by Henry Ford and of the America First Committee, whose name was commandeered by Donald Trump, which accused the Jews of trying to drag the U.S. into a war with Nazi Germany. “We thought those times were long gone,” she told her nodding listeners, “but we were wrong.”
American Jews aren’t panicking, but they are deeply troubled. They’re not under physical attack, but the threat seems closer than ever. They’re not packing any suitcases, but some of them are considering their options. They console themselves with Trump’s limited chances of actually winning the elections, assuming that the emerging anti-Semitism will disappear along with him. But they may be wrong: the Trump candidacy has let anti-Semitic genies out of their bottles and enabled Jew-hating groups to come out from the rocks under which they were hiding. Even if Trump goes, they won’t be in a hurry to follow in his wake.
How the wheel of fortune can turn quickly. It was only two-three years ago that the golden age of American Jewry was almost officially pronounced. A Pew Research survey found that Jews were the most admired religious group in America. The former leader of the Reform Movement, Rabbi Eric Yoffie, wrote in Haaretz that American Jews have never had it so good. The press was awash in features and op-eds about how the Jews were sitting on top of the world in their Promised Land.
Objectively, nothing has changed since then. Jews are still thriving, influential and admired by many if not most Americans. But their subjective sense of themselves and their security has altered radically. Some can feel the earth shaking underneath their feet. Older American Jews are reminded of the anti-Semites of their youth or those that their parents spoke about. Younger American Jews, especially those of the Millennial generation, are shocked to discover that anti-Semitism still exists, as Politico reported this week.
Trump’s campaign has significantly enhanced the presence of anti-Semitism in the public arena. He, his sons and his campaign staff have disseminated anti-Semitic tweets, composed by themselves or by others, including the infamous poster of Clinton framed by a Star of David against the background of piles of money. Trump’s candidacy is being supported by every anti-Semitic and neo-Nazi group under the sun, and Jew haters are working overtime on his behalf “to the last man”, as the editor of the pro-Nazi Daily Stormer said this week. Trump fans conduct systematic anti-Semitic harassment, publicly and privately, against journalists who criticize their candidate. Jewish parents complain that their children are being exposed to growing, politically motivated anti-Semitic bullying, at their schools and on the streets.
The staple reaction of Trump and his spokespeople is to brandish his converted daughter Ivanka and her Jewish family as proof of the GOP candidate’s bona fides. And it’s true that the evidence tying Trump himself to anti-Semitism is circumstantial and limited. He once said that his money could be handled only by “little men with yarmulkes”. He told the Republican Jewish Coalition last year that they are good negotiators but don’t support him “because you can’t buy me.” His former wife Ivana testified that he kept a book of Adolf Hitler’s speeches near his bedside. Trump didn’t confirm or deny, but did find it apt to note that a Jewish acquaintance once gave him a copy of Mein Kampf.
But even if Trump has no animus towards Jews, he consistently refuses to challenge anti-Semites and allows them to keep on thriving under his wings. For months he resisted calls to dissociate himself from ex-Ku Klux Klan leader and Holocaust denier David Duke, who continues to describe Trump as his brother and comrade. He refuses to speak out against the harassment of Jewish journalists, and often justifies them, as he did following Julia Ioffe’s revelations about Melania Trump in Vanity Fair. As in the Star of David poster, Trump turns a deaf ear to Jewish protests, rebuffs complaints that he and his confidantes disseminate anti-Semitic materials and ascribes the criticism to hostility and ulterior motives.
Trump is probably aware of his dismal position among American Jewish voters. In most polls, Clinton is beating him by a 3-1 margin, a disadvantage that could prove critical in tight races in battleground states such as Pennsylvania, Florida or Ohio. At the start of the campaign it seemed as if Trump had simply given up on the Jews or that he had reached the conclusion that he had more to gain by alienating them. Not only did he allow a thousand anti-Semitic weeds to bloom, he seemed to be distancing himself from Israel on purpose: he would be neutral on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, he might ask Israel to pay for the aid it receives, he really couldn’t tell who was to blame for the situation in the territories. In his Republican Jewish Coalition appearance, Trump signaled that he couldn’t care less about American Jews and that he feels free to break with the long Republican tradition of unqualified support for Israel.
A few months later, Trump turned around completely. He gave a decidedly pro-Israeli speech that was well received at the AIPAC convention and his statements on Israel began to conform to the absolutist Republican norm. In July he appointed his lawyers/advisers David Friedman and Jonathan Greenblatt as his counselors and spokespersons on Israel, and they have been taking far-right positions in his name ever since. Trump will be good for Israel, they promise, but especially for Israelis who live in Judea and Samaria.
Most Jewish Republican figures aren’t taking the bait. Many of them realize that the Jewish community abhors Trump and that there could be hell to pay in the future for anyone endorsing him now. Others, including leading right wing Jewish commentators, don’t necessarily believe that Trump is pro-Israel and even if he is, that does not negate his basic lack of qualifications for the Presidency. The most outspoken Jewish supporters of Trump are Jewish billionaires, headed by casino magnate Sheldon Adelson.
It’s conceivable, however, that it wasn't the Jews that Trump was angling for in his sharp turn to the right concerning Israel, but Evangelicals, whose support for the GOP candidate has been tenuous from the outset. Trump’s photo-op with Benjamin Netanyahu at the United Nations last month won’t help him much with the Jews, but could very well soothe some Evangelical concerns. Troubled by the thrice married his personal history and decidedly un-Christian way of expressing himself, Trump’s weak support for Israel was another cause for concern. Evangelicals probably weren’t bothered much by the anti-Semitism swirling around Trump: their love for Jews, such as it is, is in any case confined to strong and resolute Jews such as Netanyahu and Jewish settlers, not to liberal American Jews who, together with Clinton and Barack Obama, are responsible for undermining American virtues and morals in the first place.
In this respect, Trump’s candidacy provides a handy litmus test to examine how the hard right’s support for Israel, which Netanyahu saw as a cornerstone of his American strategy for decades to come, can coexist with and even nurture old-style anti-Semitism and distrust of Jews. American Jews never thought differently: the above mentioned Pew report found they disliked Evangelicals more than any other religious group, both because of their drive to fuse church and state and because they sensed that Evangelicals only appreciate those Jews who are far away in Israel, rather than those who are their neighbors back home.
American Jews are identified more than any other group with liberal causes such as the civil rights movement, the pro-choice movement, women’s rights, gun control, legalizing immigrants and, latest and worst of all, the legalization of gay marriage. When right wingers slam East Coast elites and liberals, when Ted Cruz mentions “New York values”, when every other Republican repeatedly brandishes the name of community organizer Saul Alinsky, with a special emphasis on his Jewish name, as the root of all evil, everyone knows who and what they’re talking about.
This aversion to liberal Jews is reflected in the hostility of the Jewish right, in Israel and America, towards leftist Jews: religious Jews despise them because of their secularity and universal liberal values and other right wingers because they refuse to be part of the nationalistic zeitgeist of Israel and the American Jewish establishment. They often describe such Jews as “self-haters”, which is ironic, given that it is they who are besmirching and sometimes excommunicating such a large part of the Jewish community. If you want to find self-haters, they should be told, take a look in the mirror.
The anti-Semitism sprouting alongside Trump is the old-fashioned hatred of Jews that has existed since time immemorial, before the establishment of Israel. It views Jews as malevolent outsiders, cosmopolitan creatures and agents of decadence, bent on sucking American’s blood corrupting its character and taking it over from within. Its emergence is a challenge for the Israeli government’s effort to equate most criticism of Israel, especially from the left, as anti-Semitism. Now it seems that the contrary is true, that some of the biggest supporters of Israel feel it prudent to tolerate, if not aid and abet, the growth of right wing anti-Semitism as a necessary evil.
Trump’s candidacy did not create this shameful situation but it does expose it for the entire world to see. It shows that support for Israel can serve as a cover, if not actually as an accelerator, for anti-Semitism. Even if one can understand how some Americans might ignore the racism and anti-Semitism enveloping Trump because they view Clinton and the Democrats as greater evils, it’s harder to understand how American Jews - and discerning Israelis - can justify voting for him by citing his supposed support for Israel, transitory as it is. In the name of Israel, they will be encouraging anti-Semitism and stabbing their brothers and sisters in the American Jewish community in the back. They might excuse themselves, but Jewish history won’t forgive them.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/u-s-e ... m-1.746262
Trump's Israel ground game
The Trump organizing efforts are more extensive in the West Bank than in West Palm Beach, Fla.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/d ... ael-228394
by seemslikeadream » Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:06 am
Published on
Wednesday, October 12, 2016
byCommon Dreams
UN Rights Chief Blasts Trump as 'Dangerous' for Global Community
UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Zeid Ra'ad al-Hussein condemns GOP nominee's "deeply unsettling and disturbing" views on torture and minorities
byDeirdre Fulton, staff writer
"There are very real fears that are being stoked and exploited," UN rights chief says of Donald Trump's presidential campaign. (Photo: Gage Skidmore/flickr/cc)
In what one newspaper described as an "extraordinary intervention," United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights Zeid Ra'ad al-Hussein has said a Donald Trump presidency would be "dangerous" for the international community.
Zeid made the comments Wednesday during a news briefing in Geneva. Citing Trump's "deeply unsettling and disturbing" views on torture and "vulnerable communities" such as Muslims, minorities, and immigrants, the U.N. rights chief declared:
If Donald Trump is elected on the basis of what he has said already—and unless that changes—I think it is without any doubt that he would be dangerous from an international point of view. I always believe that it's incumbent on leaders to lead and to lead in a way that is ethical and moral. The use of half-truths is a very clever political device. Because, as every propagandist knows, you allow the user to fill in the rest.
United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights Zeid Ra'ad Al Hussein arrives for a media briefing at the U.N. European headquarters in Geneva, Switzerland on Wednesday. (Photo: Reuters)
United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights Zeid Ra'ad Al Hussein arrives for a media briefing at the U.N. European headquarters in Geneva, Switzerland on Wednesday. (Photo: Reuters)
This is not the first time Zeid has spoken out against Trump. In April, he issued a salvo against Trump and other Republican presidential candidates, saying "bigotry is not proof of strong leadership." And last month, he condemned Western "demagogues" like Trump, the U.K.'s Nigel Farage, and Geert Wilders of the Netherlands, while urging people to "draw the line" against their far-right rhetoric before it leads to "colossal violence."
"We must guard [human rights] law passionately, and be guided by it," he said at the time. "Speak out and up, speak the truth and do so compassionately, speak for your children, for those you care about, for the rights of all, and be sure to say clearly: stop! We will not be bullied by you the bully, nor fooled by you the deceiver, not again, no more; because we, not you, will steer our collective fate. And we, not you, will write and sculpt this coming century. Draw the line!"
Zeid has drawn some flak for his comments, specifically from Russia, which reportedly lodged a formal complaint with the U.N. last month over his previous remarks on Trump and other Western leaders.
But Zeid defended his responsibility to speak out on Wednesday saying: "We are not a political office, so we are not going to get into...politics, but where it affects the rights of people and especially vulnerable groups, we will speak. I see no reason to curb what it is that we are saying."
"There are very real fears that are being stoked and exploited," he said, adding that "it is within the mandate of the office to speak out where we feel that vulnerable groups are being targeted for reasons that are misplaced."
http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/1 ... -community
by seemslikeadream » Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:59 am
Trump supporters want to repeal women's 19th Amendment rights because he would win if only men voted
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.2828571
by redsock » Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:30 am
Donald Trump, exposed Wednesday as an alleged serial groper, once said he’d spotted his future girlfriend on an escalator — when she was only 10.
The would-be sexist-in-chief made the stomach-turning joke in 1992 when “Entertainment Tonight” taped a Christmas special in Trump Tower.
Trump, then 46, makes a brief appearance and asks a group of 10-year-old girls if they’re going to take the escalator, according to the footage, reported by CBS News Wednesday. One girl pipes up with a happy “Yes!”
“I’m going to be dating her in 10 years,” Trump leers. “Can you believe it?”
by Luther Blissett » Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:33 am
by General Patton » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:10 pm
by norton ash » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:24 pm
General Patton » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:10 pm wrote:What if the cartoon frog really is a symbol of a god and the god that gave Trump his power now wants mutually assured destruction of both political parties and their political candidates leaving no one in charge?
Frog went a-courtin' and he did ride, uh-huh
Frog went a-courtin' and he did ride, uh-huh
Frog went a-courtin' and he did ride
With a sword and a pistol by his side, uh-huh.
Well he rode right up to Miss Mousey's door, uh-huh
He rode right up to Miss Mousey's door, uh-huh
He rode right up to Miss Mousey's door
Gave three loud raps and a very big roar, uh-huh.
Said, "Miss Mouse, are you within ?" uh-huh
Said he, "Miss Mouse, are you within ?" uh-huh
Said, "Miss Mouse, are you within ?"
"Yes, kind sir, I sit and spin, " uh-huh.
He took Miss Mousey on his knee, uh-huh
Took Miss Mousey on his knee, uh-huh
Took Miss Mousey on his knee
Said, "Miss Mousey, will you marry me ?" uh-huh.
"Without my uncle Rat's consent, uh-huh
Without my uncle Rat's consent, uh-huh
Without my uncle Rat's consent
I wouldn't marry the president, uh-huh".
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