The “Alternative Right"

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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby American Dream » Sun Oct 09, 2016 1:07 pm

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ALT RIGHT TROLL RICKY VAUGHN BANNED ON TWITTER

Twitter has been the place that the Alt Right really came into their own. Lax rules mixed with a culture of anonymity let the Alt Right expand beyond their publishing ideologues and into the snarky culture of memes, hash tags, and trolling. While this is where their numbers have ballooned, one of their archetypes is complete in Ricky Vaughn. Named after the character in the movie Major League, Vaughn epitomizes the Alt Right troll, harassing Jewish commentators and people of color and taking Alt Right arguments and crystalizing them down to snarky bite-sized bits. After Vaughn amassed 60,000 followers with his “edgelord” harassment, Twitter finally banned him for violating behavior.

Vaughn’s ideas are as basic as can be, which has lent to his success. When he describes his political evolution he says things like “I tried liberalism, then I tried conservatism” boiling down complex political positions to the most simplistic ideologies that is surprising he is able to put together coherent political points. This may be why he has limited his commentary to 140 characters rather than any substantial articles. After getting his start on the controversial My Posting Career, he went onto Twitter with RickyVaughn99 in an attempt to bridge mainstream Trump supporters with Alt Right talking points, gaining popularity after Gamergate. Here he mixed his criticism against non-white immigration with anti-Semitic conspiracy theories of people like Kevin MacDonald.

Though he may be arguing that it was his “Free Speech” being violated, Twitter only bans users for harassing behavior and for things that are deemed incitements to violence. Alt Lite commentator Milo Yiannoupolos was also recently banned on Twitter after he incited followers to racially terrorize Ghostbusters actress Leslie Jones. This is a major blow to the Alt Right since they rely on this trolling culture, and it seems like Twitter and other social media outlets are starting to refuse to participate. They recently had to soften their language to racist “codewords” since open racial slurs are getting them banned.

There is a difficult side to this as well since Twitter could, theoretically, start banning people for other reasons as well. What we can focus on, however, is their behavior and how we can set standards for conduct in these social media spaces that do not allow for racist harassment. Going after the Alt Right where it lives, the Internet, allows us to cut it off at the source, and win in the only arena that they have ever had any real success in.
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby Luther Blissett » Sun Oct 09, 2016 2:59 pm

American Dream, that Charlie Post essay on the previous page was really concise contemporary history, I really enjoyed that.
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby American Dream » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:05 pm

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CONFRONTING FASCIST ENTRYISM: BIOREGIONALISM, LEFT-HAND PATH, AND THE BROOKLYN COMMONS

Recently a supporter emailed us to let us know something a little strange happening at the H.P. Lovecraft Film Festival. Among the Lovecraftian horror authors, R’lyeh themed t-shirt vendors, and various international films, the organizers had invited someone a touch more eccentric. Diabolus Rex is an occultist from the area who spends his time building the Ragnarok Engine, which is a large metal ship that is meant to generate occult energy. Speaking in a mix of prophetic End Times jargon, conspiracy prose, and pan-esoteric mashups, he says that this will fuel a black magic enterprise, possibly bringing the end of the world.

Though on first glance Rex is likely to appear as an oddity that an H.P. Lovecraft fanfest would enjoy a peek at, but that is really only without delving deeper. Rex was featured on Jack Donovan’s podcast Start the World. People will know Donovan as a part of the controversial Wolves of Vinland folkish heathen group, and for speaking at white nationalist conferences like American Renaissance and writing for publications like the Radix Journal. Know for his Queer Fascism, Jack writes about “male tribalism” and the need for men to think only about their in-group and to reclaim a culture of violence.

This was not Rex’s only connection to the Alt Right as on his Facebook he shares links from the esoteric-loving white nationalist publisher Counter Currents and rants about blocking Muslim immigration. More than this, he focuses on a “will to power” reading of left-hand path mysticism where he believes in creating a culture of hierarchy based in the domination of others, which includes human sacrifice. He even includes Julius Evola, the fascist mystic, as one of his key influences, as well as seeming to draw on Aryan esoteric and rune magic. He makes snide comments about Jews, and especially about “socialists” and those who want “equality.”

The question of whether Rex is a fascist is dubious; he seems to straddle a line in some ways, and may or may not actually fall firmly into that category. The burden of his meta-politics does not fall on the H.P. Lovecraft Film Festival (even though they were notified ahead of time of his connection), but it presents a clear problem that happens in spaces from left to right, from the arts to the social sciences.

Anti-fascist researcher and author Alexander Reid Ross made this process the key idea for his upcoming book from AK Press, Against the Fascist Creep. In it he chronicles the neo-fascist project since World War II and the shifting, often contradictory strategies that fascist movements take. Using ideas and patterns from the left, fascist movements attempt to co-opt struggles, transform radical movements, and adopt elements of the left while maintaining a far-right meta-politics. This means that areas that are not normally associated with racialist and nationalist politics, such as the pop arts, environmentalism, or anti-colonialism, have become places they believe they can make inroads.

To gain popularity, fascists develop and adapt syncretic ideologies to meet and manipulate leftists and radical activists. Their motivations are often concealed through the rhetoric of the “right to difference” and “racial diferentialism.” It is important to see through and reject the rhetoric of fascism in order to garner a better understanding of its general adherence to inequality, elitism, and hate. (AFC, pg. 7)


While most people subscribing to Left Hand Path traditions would find fascist politics and racism disgusting, there are those who see it as a way to developing an imperial power. People may reject the notion that ideologues like Rex have a creeping fascist politics because of the sexual libertine ideas and animal rights adherence, but these are just pieces of what is a larger philosophy of power and domination.

The fascist entryism into areas associated with the left is both conscious and unconscious, and those on the far right often see these crossover movements as legitimately a part of their struggle.

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Quite a while ago, bioregionalists in Oregon were putting on a conference about their ecological movement. There is a push to look at the bioregion of the Pacific Northwest, sometimes divided up into being the western side of Oregon and Washington, as a distinct ecological “bioregion.” While there are nationalist movements that want to redefine state boundaries, bioregionalism is generally a project of the left and sees itself as a progressive notion for protecting environmental areas. Because of its creation of borders and boundaries, as well as because of right-wing intervention into environmental movements, it has also attracted those from the more questionable elements of the right.

Among the various invitees for the conference was also Vince Rinehart, a tribal member of the Tlingit people and an editor with the National Anarchist website Attack the System. AtS is well known for allying with white nationalists and racialists, developing their own “pan-secessionist” ideology that calls for anarchists uniting with fascists to attack “the empire.” Keith Preston Keith Preston, the founder of the website, often speaks at neo-fascist conferences like the National Policy Institute. Rinehart himself supports a strong tribal nationalism, one where racial groups could get their own exclusive tribal communities.

After the public learned that Rinehart was included in the conference there was an understandable uproar, and many in the more questionable areas of the bioregionalist community tried to defend Rinehart’s inclusion. There was an aspect of agreement with Rinehart: it took opposing ideologies coming together to defend the bioregion. This is exactly the “creeping fascism” that those on the right want, to undermine coherent politics and to gain entry into revolutionary movements for their own philosophical bent.

This showed up in an especially embarrassing blog post by Casey Bryan Corcoran after Rose City Antifa refused to participate. Here Corcoran admitted to both understanding Attack the System’s fascist roots and to doing a recorded interview with them.

I want to be clear that I am not denying Fascism’s unsavory past and present. I will also not deny the unsavory past and present of the Left. I am hopeful that Bioregionalism can be formulated in a way that opposes both toxic ideologies, and I see both the Left and the Right as his-stories not to be repeated. I also reject both the Trojan Horse of ‘Third Position’ racialism, and the re-colonizing impositions and racial animosities that thrive in Leftist subcultures. However, attacking everyone I don’t see eye-to-eye with has proven a terrible way to build a community, and I have engaged in dialogue with a good handful of people expressing remarkably problematic ideas about life, taking my fair share of flack for this in the process. I feel this risk is worth it, as I feel no human being is motivated by pure evil intentions. Pardon my optimism if you must. I have also observed peoples ideas change over time, mostly as the result of relationships with other people who are not quick to judge.


Here he goes into the defining characteristic of creeping fascism, the ability to “move beyond right and left” to something new. This is Third Positionism crystalized, the refusal to see fascism for what it is in an effort to “move beyond the failures of the past.” He continues on to use ad hominem attacks, to dance around the clear far-right associations, and to defend Rinehart’s racialist politics.


Continues at: https://antifascistnews.net/2016/10/11/ ... n-commons/
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby American Dream » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:29 pm

(VIDEO) Gavin McInnes, Disciples, Attack Dissenter at Neo-Fash Art Show

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The Hipster Nazis have an event that was supposed to make them seem relevant. Instead it showed them to be the petty chumps they are.


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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby American Dream » Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:28 pm

Academic paper about 4chan's /pol/ forum

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Spoiler: it's mostly American white supremacists sharing YouTube videos and plotting raids and Pepe.


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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:32 pm

Feds: Right Wing Militia Plotted Nov. 9 Attack On Muslim Immigrants In Kansas

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PublishedOCTOBER 14, 2016, 4:50 PM EDT

The feds arrested three members of a right wing militia for allegedly planning to detonate explosives at an apartment complex in Garden City, Kansas, with Somali Muslims specifically the target, law enforcement announced at Friday.

The men were Curtis Allen and Gavin Wright, both 49, and of Liberal, Kansas, and Patrick Eugene Stein, 47, of Wright, Kansas, according to a Department of Justice press release. Their arrests Friday morning were first reported by CBS News.

The attack was allegedly planned for the day after Election Day, law enforcement said at a press conference.

They are facing domestic terrorism charges, which, if they are convicted, could result in a maximum sentence of life in federal prison, law enforcement said.

“These charges are based on eight months of investigation by the FBI that is alleged to have taken the investigators deep into a hidden culture of hatred and violence,” Tom Beall, the acting U.S. Attorney for Kansas, said. “Many Kansans may find it as startling as I have that such things could happen here.”

The investigation uncovered stockpiles of firearms and explosive materials, as well as a manifesto, Beall said.

"One of them said, 'The bombing would wake people up,'" Beall said.

The suspects allegedly planned to attack the housing complex, where approximately 120 people live and where one of the apartments was used as a mosque, the officials said. They were part of a militia group that called itself The Crusaders, according to law enforcement.

They also considered targeting churches and public officials who supported the Somali community, as well as the landlords that rented to the immigrants, the officials said.

Allen, one of the men allegedly behind the plans, had been arrested in a domestic violence case in Liberal this week, according to officials. Stein, another of the men arrested Friday, had told an FBI source that there were concerns Allen's girlfriend would inform the police in Liberal of the group's alleged plans, Beall said.

This story has been updated as more information has become available.
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby American Dream » Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:35 pm

STEVE BANNON’S VISION FOR THE TRUMP COALITION AFTER ELECTION DAY


Bannon has never been a campaign strategist. He is a right-wing new-media entrepreneur who is building a political and news infrastructure that mimics Europe’s nationalists. After Trump’s speech on Thursday, when he linked Clinton to “international banks” and “global financial powers,” Jonathan Greenblatt, the head of the Anti-Defamation League, issued a statement that Trump “should avoid rhetoric and tropes that have historically been used against Jews and still reverberate today.”

In a further sign of Bannon’s influence, Trump’s prepared remarks that day also mentioned Brexit, which Trump said was an encouraging sign of the direction of international politics. “Our great civilization, here in America and across the civilized world, has come upon a moment of reckoning,” Trump said. “We’ve seen it in the United Kingdom, where they voted to liberate themselves from global government and global trade deals and global immigration deals that have destroyed their sovereignty.” Bannon has known Nigel Farage, the leader of ukip, the pro-Brexit party, since 2013, when Breitbart opened its London bureau. Farage has appeared on behalf of Trump at the Republican Convention in Cleveland, in July, a Trump rally in Mississippi, in August, and the debate spin room in St. Louis, this month.

The rhetoric that Bannon is feeding Trump makes it increasingly likely that Trump will lose in a landslide. Polling averages show Trump trailing Clinton by eight points, the largest gap since August, when Clinton received a significant boost after her Convention. Most election forecasts put Clinton’s chance of victory at about eighty per cent.

Trump’s response to these numbers has been to tell his supporters, repeatedly in recent days, that the election is “rigged,” creating a sense of grievance about the likely results that can be exploited after November 8th. Trump and Bannon have given up on trying to defeat Clinton. They seem more interested in creating a platform for a new ethno-nationalist politics that may bedevil the Republican Party—and the country—for a long time to come.

On Sunday morning I asked a top Trump official, “Do you think there’s any chance that Trump would refuse to concede if he loses?” The official responded, “He is not going to lose.”


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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby American Dream » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:29 pm

White nationalist scion leaves the cause


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Derek, 27, was set to follow in the footsteps of his dad, Stormfront creator Don Black. He had his own white nationalist website for kids, his own radio show, and gotten elected to local government in Florida. He was their future, slick and self-controlled, never using slurs or suggestions of violence. But he's now come to question the ideology and left it all behind. Eli Saslow reports on The white flight of Derek Black.

So many others in white nationalism had come to their conclusions out of anger and fear, but Derek tended to like most people he met, regardless of race. Instead, he sought out logic and science to confirm his worldview, reading studies from conservative think tanks about biological differences between races, IQ disparities and rates of violent crime committed by blacks against whites



This article is well-worth 20 minutes of your time.


The white flight of Derek Black


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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby Jerky » Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:10 am

What a fantastic portrait of America's unofficial First Family of Race Hate that WaPo article turned out to be.

I urge everyone here to carve out 20 minutes of their day to devote to the above story. It is well worth everyone's time and attention.

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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby Searcher08 » Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:23 am

Jerky » Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:10 am wrote:What a fantastic portrait of America's unofficial First Family of Race Hate that WaPo article turned out to be.

I urge everyone here to carve out 20 minutes of their day to devote to the above story. It is well worth everyone's time and attention.

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Thank you! I thought you were being straight till I went to the end and when the young Nazi begins, through a voyage of self-discovery, helped along the way by the SPLC (!!), learns to speak SJW talking points and comes out as... a Hilary Clinton supporter.

Derek said he had taken an online political quiz, and his views aligned 97 percent with Hillary Clinton’s.

She (Hilary Clinton - S08) explained how white supremacists had rebranded themselves as white nationalists. She referenced Duke and mentioned the concept of a “white genocide,” which Derek had once helped popularize. She talked about how Trump had hired a campaign manager with ties to the alt-right. She said: “A fringe movement has essentially taken over the Republican Party.”


Instead, he’d spent his time catching up on aspects of pop culture he’d once been taught to discredit: liberal newspaper columns, rap music and Hollywood movies. He’d come to admire President Obama. He decided to trust the U.S. government. He started drinking tap water. He had taken budget trips to Barcelona, Paris, Dublin, Nicaragua and Morocco, immersing himself in as many cultures as he could.

He joined a new online message group, this one for couch surfers, and he opened up his one-bedroom apartment to strangers looking for a temporary place to stay. It felt increasingly good to trust people — to try to interact without prejudice or judgment — and after a while, Derek began to feel detached from the person he had been.


:mrgreen: Sorry, this is just such utter complete pants. it sounds little different to a description of a Jesuit or Jehovah's Witnesses conversion process, where a malleable mind has one set of nonsense programs excised (all the St0rmfr0nt racist / WS rubbish) and another set of nonsense (HRC talking points) inserted by people who help others through "facts and logic", and the person "finding out for themselves". Of course they do.
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby Jerky » Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:42 am

And you, I'm sure, have conjured up YOUR OWN worldview, morals and socio-political perspective in some kind of perfect Monad of Zen stillness and silence, completely divorced from the chattering nonsense being spouted by all the "others" surrounding you, right?

You think the two ways of being in the world you describe as being roughly equal in your mocking response above really ARE roughly equal? You think a world filled with pre-conversion Derek Blacks is no different - no worse - than a world filled with post-conversion Derek Blacks?

Or Hell, maybe you think it would be preferable. I don't know.

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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby coffin_dodger » Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:53 am

What do you like about America, Jerky?
I'm not talking about the 'American Dream' meme sold to generations, more the hard reality of how America is perceived by it's own population and how it's perceived abroad.

Do you like the foreign policy?
Do you like the stance on immigration?
Do you like the banking system and the status money alone can provide?
Do you like the choice of candidates for president - the two, chosen from 325m people?
Do you like the FBI?
Do you like the CIA?
Do you like the military bases all over the world?
Do you like the health system?
Do you like the celebrity culture?
Do you like the gun culture?
Do you like the TV?
Do you like the cops?
Do you like a mass media that shys away from inconvenient or discomforting reporting?
Do you like living in a society that is falling apart?

I assume you answer 'yes' to all of these questions, because this:
Instead, he’d spent his time catching up on aspects of pop culture he’d once been taught to discredit: liberal newspaper columns, rap music and Hollywood movies. He’d come to admire President Obama. He decided to trust the U.S. government. He started drinking tap water. He had taken budget trips to Barcelona, Paris, Dublin, Nicaragua and Morocco, immersing himself in as many cultures as he could.

is an advert for saying 'yes' to the above.
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby Searcher08 » Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:58 am

Jerky » Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:42 am wrote:And you, I'm sure, have conjured up YOUR OWN worldview, morals and socio-political perspective in some kind of perfect Monad of Zen stillness and silence, completely divorced from the chattering nonsense being spouted by all the "others" surrounding you, right?


I think everyone does that, to a greater or lesser extent. I have not come across the expression Monad of Zen, but have come across monads (in category theory) and value both Zen and not-Zen.


The zen of monads
From a monad tutorial written in 1970:
"The more you understand our thinking, the more you find it difficult to talk about it. The purpose of my talking is to give you some idea of our way, but actually, it is not something to talk about, but something to practice. The best way is just to practice without saying anything. when we talk about our way, there is apt to be some misunderstanding, because the true way always has at least two sides, the [practical] and the [theoretic]. When we talk about the [practical] side, the [theoretic] side is missing, and when we talk about the [theoretic] side, the [practical] side is missing. We cannot speak in a [practical] and [theoretic] way at the same time. So we do not know what to say. It is almost impossible to talk about [monads]. So not to say anything, just to practice it, is the best way."
(Not actually from a monad tutorial, but rather adapted from Zen Mind, Beginners Mind.)


Personally, I'm interested in wondering what lies outside of worldviews mediated by human neurology, but each to their own.


Jerky » Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:42 am wrote:You think the two ways of being in the world you describe as being roughly equal in your mocking response above really ARE roughly equal? You think a world filled with pre-conversion Derek Blacks is no different - no worse - than a world filled with post-conversion Derek Blacks?

Or Hell, maybe you think it would be preferable. I don't know.

Jerky


Firstly, I looked at what I had written and my "Thank You" was not mocking, I appreciated the recommendation. It wasn't until later that I read the daily dirt article about Assange and saw your comment and concluded you were not being sarcastic (I didn't know you are a Clintonista.)

Second, my issue is about a) manipulation and b) propaganda derived from his conversion.

My mocking response was directed at the article itself, not yourself.
This is R.I. and my intuition went off that this guy was a *perfect* target for a 'turn' operation:
impressionable, empathetic, away from a 'monoculture' home, away from a dominant father, naïve, parochial.

It is quite possible that nothing of the sort happened, and that he changed purely because of his own independent thinking. However, even if he did, I think the process was very cynically engineered to extract maximum value for the Clinton campaign.

The conversion process often produces an attitude of "fundamentalism" in the new convert. For example, the Catholics I grew up with were pretty relaxed about religion in general- the *only* ones who were not were the converts.

There is more to life than changing fucking worldviews, Highly Authoritarian Right to Highly Authoritarian Left.

If for example, he had been converted to a Green Worldview, I would have said the same thing. Evidence for the the unexpected consequences of forced conversation is the "De-Baathification" process in Iraq, which was a total clusterfuck.

The young man in the article has not come to terms with and moved on from his past, he has jettisoned it - there was no reaching out to people he was involved with and he appeared to be suffering from a form of de-personalisation.

Do you think it is better to have a person expediently manipulated into a worldview that you passionately approve of, rather than be left in the one they have, which you personally might hate?
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby Jerky » Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:57 pm

In no way do I believe that is what happened to him, just because of the paragraph you point to as being problematic.

What happened to him is right there in the article, and it's something that happens every day, to lots of people - fundamentalist gets exposed to outside world, finds out he's been lied to by those who made him a fundamentalist, changes worldview in accordance with his new lived experience.

It happens all the time. I've seen it happen. I've seen a lifelong racist gets a Black neighbor they soon came to realize that they loved with all their heart. I've seen hardcore homophobes learn to regret their lifelong stance upon having a loved one come out to them. And it seems to me as though Derek Black went through something similar. When his peers discovered his pretty heinous past, associations and activities, they didn't shun him. They engaged him. This is a GOOD story, with a GOOD ending. And I have to repeat this: if you think that a world with more old-style Derek Blacks is either preferable or not substantially different to a world with more NEW-style Derek Blacks, you're either being willfully obstinate or sadistically perverse.

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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby Jerky » Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:01 pm

coffin_dodger » 19 Oct 2016 09:53 wrote:What do you like about America, Jerky?
I'm not talking about the 'American Dream' meme sold to generations, more the hard reality of how America is perceived by it's own population and how it's perceived abroad.

Do you like the foreign policy?
Do you like the stance on immigration?
Do you like the banking system and the status money alone can provide?
Do you like the choice of candidates for president - the two, chosen from 325m people?
Do you like the FBI?
Do you like the CIA?
Do you like the military bases all over the world?
Do you like the health system?
Do you like the celebrity culture?
Do you like the gun culture?
Do you like the TV?
Do you like the cops?
Do you like a mass media that shys away from inconvenient or discomforting reporting?
Do you like living in a society that is falling apart?

I assume you answer 'yes' to all of these questions, because this:
Instead, he’d spent his time catching up on aspects of pop culture he’d once been taught to discredit: liberal newspaper columns, rap music and Hollywood movies. He’d come to admire President Obama. He decided to trust the U.S. government. He started drinking tap water. He had taken budget trips to Barcelona, Paris, Dublin, Nicaragua and Morocco, immersing himself in as many cultures as he could.

is an advert for saying 'yes' to the above.


I would LOVE to see you try to explain exactly how you think that paragraph implies what you seem to think it implies.

Please... enlighten me.

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