Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

[JackRiddler]

Also they have no interest in repairing any rift. Their power exists only because of the rifts. The LAST thing they want is for the citizens of this country to suddenly get along and unite. It would literally be extremely dangerous for them.

Yay! At last, united around an explicitly racist agenda.

I wish people understood that. The disdain and scorn people in most of my universe rain down upon Trump supporters is the nastiest, most condescending, elitist shit you can imagine. It's no different from racism, but without the race aspect. The Trump supporters I know actually don't fit the model of the banjo-twanging rabid redneck retards that the Snooty Dems think they are.

The only redneck banjo player I know personally (and very well) correctly thinks Trump is a racist beast. That is because he understands English, including the debased English used by Donald Trump, which is quite explicit and clear to everyone except his apologists when they happen to traffic with people who do not like him. It's like that. Most people who play instruments well also have a bit of those curious qualities known as empathy and the ability to understand communications, which, in regard to Trump, you clearly lack, no matter how clearly he tells you what he is about.

This is perhaps the most embarrassing and ridiculous statement you have ever made on this board. White man, man who has always been identified as White or as "just a guy" by strangers when he walks down the street, man who has no clue, it is so sad and disheartening that anyone needs to explain this to you. And I know also how pointless it is of me to do so. But let's do it, for the record:

Two years ago, Trump supporters were not Trump supporters. There wasn't a single one, because there was no Trump campaign. No one was ever born a Trump supporter. "Trump supporters" were not born with exterior characteristics that identified them as members of this group to the society in which they grew up, from infancy forward. They were not subjected to systemic and socially approved prejudice on the basis of exterior characteristics, unless of course they happened to be born black or something comparable, in which case they were, but not because in some future they would make the CHOICE to be Trump supporters. No one ever knows someone is a Trump supporter if they do not identify themselves as such. They never have to fear automatic attention and possible violence from the police on the basis of their exterior characteristics, before even doing anything or opening their mouths. They were never offered higher interest rates on a loan, or denied for one, on the basis of their exterior characteristics.

Trump supporters were never owned as chattel slaves, murdered in lynchings as a regular festival event, had their leaders targeted for assassination, or had their churches burned, all because they happened to be born with certain exterior characteristics, and independently of their other qualities, opinions, beliefs, actions or affiliations. Other than that and about a thousand other things, hey, thinking Trump supporters are stupid based on the things they actually say they believe, voluntarily, is just like racism. Something of which you obviously know nothing, which is inexcusable.

The first person I can remember from my youth who made a statement that prejudice against men with moronic opinions and moronic voluntary associations (with groups that engage in systematic mob violence) was "no different than racism" was, for the record, a skinhead. He was trying to defend the brutal beating of a friend of mine by his fellow skinheads the day before. (He may have been among them.) That's your associate here. I often think you can do better than this, but no more. The KKK that just endorsed Trump, that's your associate now. Own it, or show some fucking minimum of class and acknowledge the awesome horribleness of what you just said, and maybe actually think and revise before you post your racist trash here.

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[Morty]

You beat me to it, Rory

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/11/02/fbi_sources_tell_fox_news_indictment_likely_in_clinton_foundation_case.html

1. The Clinton Foundation investigation is far more expansive than anybody has reported so far and has been going on for more than a year.

2. The laptops of Clinton aides Cherryl Mills and Heather Samuelson have not been destroyed, and agents are currently combing through them. The investigation has interviewed several people twice, and plans to interview some for a third time.

3. Agents have found emails believed to have originated on Hillary Clinton's secret server on Anthony Weiner's laptop. They say the emails are not duplicates and could potentially be classified in nature.

4. Sources within the FBI have told him that an indictment is "likely" in the case of pay-for-play at the Clinton Foundation, "barring some obstruction in some way" from the Justice Department.

5. FBI sources say with 99% accuracy that Hillary Clinton's server has been hacked by at least five foreign intelligence agencies, and that information had been taken from it.

[seemslikeadream]

Fox News................inside sources

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/11/02/fbi_sources_tell_fox_news_indictment_likely_in_clinton_foundation_case.html

1. The Clinton Foundation investigation is far more expansive than anybody has reported so far and has been going on for more than a year.

2. The laptops of Clinton aides Cherryl Mills and Heather Samuelson have not been destroyed, and agents are currently combing through them. The investigation has interviewed several people twice, and plans to interview some for a third time.

3. Agents have found emails believed to have originated on Hillary Clinton's secret server on Anthony Weiner's laptop. They say the emails are not duplicates and could potentially be classified in nature.

4. Sources within the FBI have told him that an indictment is "likely" in the case of pay-for-play at the Clinton Foundation, "barring some obstruction in some way" from the Justice Department.

5. FBI sources say with 99% accuracy that Hillary Clinton's server has been hacked by at least five foreign intelligence agencies, and that information had been taken from it.

[JackRiddler]

5. FBI sources say with 99% accuracy that Hillary Clinton's server has been hacked by at least five foreign intelligence agencies, and that information had been taken from it.

Turnabout is fair play, but of course if true it says nothing about who might have leaked the Podesta and DNC e-mails to Wikileaks.

[seemslikeadream]

Citing FBI Probe, Joseph DiGenova Baselessly Claims Hillary Clinton Will Be Indicted Over Email Use Within "The Next 60 Days"

January 7, 2016 2:47 PM EST

FBI 'ready to indict' Hillary Clinton over private email use, Tom DeLay says: 'She’s gonna have to face these charges'

January 26, 2016, 9:11 AM

Judge Napolitano: Indictment Certain in Clinton Email Scandal Before November

Posted on March 8, 2016

http://www.dcclothesline.com/2016/03/08 ... -november/

Wikileaks To Publish “Enough Information To Get Hillary Clinton Indicted”

Jun 13, 2016
http://www.patdollard.com/wikileaks-to- ... JO4RS4F.99

FBI and DOJ Will Indict Hillary Clinton Before July 25. Get Ready Bernie Sanders Supporters.

Jun 23, 2016

Big Trouble for Hillary: Federal Judge Grants 'Judicial Watch' Discovery on Emails

FEBRUARY 23, 2016

Read the Story Huff-Po Censored: “Hillary Clinton to be Indicted on Federal Racketeering Charges”

June 1, 2016

[Nordic]

Jack do you actually know, or work with, any a Trump supporters?

Let me put it this way: do you know any poor rural white folks?

Because right now you're making my case for me.

[Nordic]

Jack and everybody who thinks that trump supporters the only raving racist rednecks, read this:

https://thearcmag.com/what-i-have-learn ... .7r33ajxhs

[Nordic]

And after that, watch this:




If you care to understand your co-humans who are getting fucked over like every body else.

Half of my family, my Dad's side, comes from white, poor, rural America.

They never had much but now they have nothing. And people like you and 90% of "democrats" (and all the urban ones who call this territory the "flyover states") don't give a shot about them. They look down upon them and ridicule them.

You and I have far more in common with these people, like it or not, than w do with the yacht-owning Lord Blankfeins of the world.

These people have been left to rot and they're not happy about it. Is their hope in Trump misguided? Of COURSE it is. But the point is that's all they've got.

Self described "liberals" care about everybody but these people. These people see Democrats care FAR more about bathrooms for a tiny few transgendered folks than getting this entire group people out of hopeless debilitating poverty.

You can stereotype them and make fun of them or you can try to understand them.

Personally I'd rather hang out on a porch with these guys than sit in a wine bar with a bunch of Century City lawyers any day of the week. Maybe I'm weird.

And Jack why do you have to be such an abusive fucking asshole to someone you've never met. You clearly have no interest in thought or thinking. You're a goddamn know it all even though im sure you've never learned how to change a tire or milk a cow. You're the classic white elitist useless city boy. Book smart but no common sense. Okay? I can throw it back at you if you want it that way.

[JackRiddler]

Jack do you actually know, or work with, any a Trump supporters?

Let me put it this way: do you know any poor rural white folks?

Because right now you're making my case for me.

Of course I know Trump supporters, how could I not.

And I know poor rural white folks, and I even said so. And they are not, as a group, the Trump-voting morons you are making them out to be. You are assuming they are. So who is really insulting them here?

More importantly why are you are resorting to this false premise? In order to avoid that my comment was addressed to what YOU said? YOU said something incredibly stupid and racist, not the theoretical poor rural white folks you are now enlisting as your alibi. And you still do not get it. Shame on you.

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[Novem5er]

Over the last few months, I've seen Nordic jump down peoples throats over a line or two in a post that didn't sit right with him. He jumped down my throat a few weeks back.

Now Jack is jumping down his throat over a line that didn't sit right with him. A line that I skipped over without thinking much about it because it made sense to me, even if it comes across as unsympathetic to victims of real racism.

Come on, guys. We have to forgive each other a little hyperbole now and again.

[Nordic]

Jack do you actually know, or work with, any a Trump supporters?

Let me put it this way: do you know any poor rural white folks?

Because right now you're making my case for me.

I do, I even said so, and they are not, as a group, the Trump-voting morons you are making them out to be. Who is really insulting them?

But why are you are resorting to this false premise? In order to avoid that the comment was addressed to what you said? You said something incredibly stupid and racist, not the theoretical poor rural white folks you are now enlisting as your alibi. And you still do not get it. Shame on you.

Oh go fuck yourself. You're a fucking liar. I never said anything remotely racist except inside your addled mind. You're such a fucking douchebag.

[Nordic]

You attack people as a way to avoid discussing your own psychological problems, your own overly and uselessly educated self. You are good for nothing. You make nothing. You look down on people who actually work for a living. You are a hateful fucked up human being. You would rather have the .1% rule you with a boot on your face for the rest of your life than try to understand your fellow man because you hate them more than you hate those with the boot grinding into you. You're the worst form of elitist shitbag there is.

Do not ever accuse me of things I didn't say. In fact do t ever fucking address me ever again. Put me on ignore.

[JackRiddler]

What Nordic said:

I wish people understood that. The disdain and scorn people in most of my universe rain down upon Trump supporters is the nastiest, most condescending, elitist shit you can imagine. It's no different from racism, but without the race aspect. The Trump supporters I know actually don't fit the model of the banjo-twanging rabid redneck retards that the Snooty Dems think they are.

What I said:

The only redneck banjo player I know personally (and very well) correctly thinks Trump is a racist beast. That is because he understands English, including the debased English used by Donald Trump, which is quite explicit and clear to everyone except his apologists when they happen to traffic with people who do not like him. It's like that. Most people who play instruments well also have a bit of those curious qualities known as empathy and the ability to understand communications, which, in regard to Trump, you clearly lack, no matter how clearly he tells you what he is about.

This is perhaps the most embarrassing and ridiculous statement you have ever made on this board. White man, man who has always been identified as White or as "just a guy" by strangers when he walks down the street, man who has no clue, it is so sad and disheartening that anyone needs to explain this to you. And I know also how pointless it is of me to do so. But let's do it, for the record:

Two years ago, Trump supporters were not Trump supporters. There wasn't a single one, because there was no Trump campaign. No one was ever born a Trump supporter. "Trump supporters" were not born with exterior characteristics that identified them as members of this group to the society in which they grew up, from infancy forward. They were not subjected to systemic and socially approved prejudice on the basis of exterior characteristics, unless of course they happened to be born black or something comparable, in which case they were, but not because in some future they would make the CHOICE to be Trump supporters. No one ever knows someone is a Trump supporter if they do not identify themselves as such. They never have to fear automatic attention and possible violence from the police on the basis of their exterior characteristics, before even doing anything or opening their mouths. They were never offered higher interest rates on a loan, or denied for one, on the basis of their exterior characteristics.

Trump supporters were never owned as chattel slaves, murdered in lynchings as a regular festival event, had their leaders targeted for assassination, or had their churches burned, all because they happened to be born with certain exterior characteristics, and independently of their other qualities, opinions, beliefs, actions or affiliations. Other than that and about a thousand other things, hey, thinking Trump supporters are stupid based on the things they actually say they believe, voluntarily, is just like racism. Something of which you obviously know nothing, which is inexcusable.

The first person I can remember from my youth who made a statement that prejudice against men with moronic opinions and moronic voluntary associations (with groups that engage in systematic mob violence) was "no different than racism" was, for the record, a skinhead. He was trying to defend the brutal beating of a friend of mine by his fellow skinheads the day before. (He may have been among them.) That's your associate here. I often think you can do better than this, but no more. The KKK that just endorsed Trump, that's your associate now. Own it, or show some fucking minimum of class and acknowledge the awesome horribleness of what you just said, and maybe actually think and revise before you post your racist trash here.

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What I wrote is an "attack" on what you said. I stand by it. That you are probably a repulsive slug in real life is likely, but I don't know that. I shall not project my images on to you, the way you have on to me. You do not know me. I know only your comments. I only know the way how, when your very pat and simplistic and often fact-free views are challenged, you fly off the handle into hateful and violent and occasionally misogynistic rhetoric. I guess you must harbor a lot of anger you have to suppress in your everyday life, and it may not have been good for your health lately. But I don't know. I know what your latest comment says. You think "educated" is elitist. You express hatred for the educated, and for people who are smarter than you, and you think this is righteous and just of you. You refuse to understand what it means when you compare an elective political group to a group subjected to racism. You refuse to hear the racism pouring out of Trump, and want to project it on to those who are not in denial. On the other hand you want me to feel a solidarity with people who are choosing a wrestling and Reality TV star who is presenting himself as a postmodern version of Hitler, as if that's a revolutionary stance. You want me to feel solidarity with your white racist friends, because the establishment is so horrible, blah blah blah.

All this suggests a very immature person, and again, based on your hateful rhetoric about the "educated," it suggests a man who is probably very frustrated and hateful at having to deal with people who are smarter than him. Some of whom are probably not therefore right, maybe they do injustices to you. But it seems what makes you angry is not that they do injustices to you, but that they are smarter. I'm guessing you might have got lousy SATs and rather than be angry about the injustice of the system, you decided to hate those who got high ones. Hate the player, not the game. That seems to be your motto. You could learn, but you prefer to make apologies for racism. Shame on you. But I do hope you can reform yourself, however. Life changes can happen. It's never too late. One can actually be a lot more than a hateful slug. It brings joy.

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[8bitagent]

Rory and others posted this, but it's from RealClearPolitics. Whom everyone on the hill, white house, media cites as the be all end all above-reproach site.
And sounds like a big hammer about to drop on Hillary
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... _case.html

I'm seeing a lot of info pointing toward much bigger FBI bombshells to hit in the next few days. If the Clintons/DNC has November surprise tapes against Trump, they
better drop those tactical nukes now.

And, for what it is worth

The Cubs Have A Smaller Chance Of Winning Than Trump Does

oops.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the ... trump-does

[82_28]

Gentlemen, I hold you both in high esteem, but this should probably end right around now. Like a hockey game shake hands and skate off. This is not a competition but rather a discussion of sorts. There is no need to presume what the other person is like. Don't do it. Let's keep it on topic.