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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:21 am

Freitag » Sat Nov 05, 2016 1:11 am wrote:Image

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Not to mention NM, OH, PA, NH, ME.

(Sorry if this is the wrong thread, I'm not sure where to post general election info unrelated to either candidate being seriously dangerous.)



ELECTION 2016
The Far-Right Media Are Circulating Their Most Ludicrous Election Rumor to Date
If you imagine boogeymen and occult practices everywhere, you'll find them.
By Kali Holloway / AlterNet November 4, 2016


Conservative media has trumped its own nuttery by reporting that Hillary Clinton and her team are a bunch of “occult magic” practicing Satanists. The rumor, a sign of how ludicrous this election has become, is actually the result of right-wing news sites confusing performance art with sorcery.

It all seems to have started with an email that became public via Wikileaks. Last July, the performance artist Marina Abramović invited Tony Podesta—a major lobbyist, art collector and brother of Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta—to dine at her home. She wrote:

Dear Tony,

I am so looking forward to the Spirit Cooking dinner at my place. Do you think you will be able to let me know if your brother is joining?

All my love, Marina

Tony forwarded the email to his brother John, with a note asking if he’d be available to come to the dinner. For the record, Spirit Cooking is the title of one of Abramović’s collections from the 1990s. A video of her creating a related installation is also online, and any remotely sane person can see it depicts an artist setting up her work for exhibition.



Unfortunately, there is nothing conservative propagandists love so much as imagined boogeyman, so instead of Googling Abramović and finding out she’s one of the world’s most famous artists, they instead decided to go with the absurd story that she’s a Satanist. And through this demented thinking, by extension so are the Podestas, as well as Clinton.

Alex Jones, who has previously accused Clinton of being a literal demon, dedicated not one but two factually incorrect and poorly researched articles to the rumor. The Drudge Report actually made the fake news its main story of the day. Sean Hannity, fresh off of having to apologize for lies he helped spread about Michelle Obama, posted a tweet about the story. The Daily Beast notes that earlier today, #SpiritCooking was the second-highest-rated trending topic on Twitter in the U.S.

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Abramović (who again, is an art world icon and has been working since the 1970s) spoke to ArtNews about the whole dumb affair.

“I’m outraged, because this is taken completely out of my context,” Abramović told the outlet, noting that Tony Podesta has been a patron of her art going back to the 1990s. “It was just a normal dinner. It was actually just a normal menu, which I call spirit cooking. There was no blood, no anything else. We just call things funny names, that’s all.”

She added, “Anybody who wants can read my memoirs and find out that [my work] is far away from Satanism. My work is really more about spirituality and not anything else.”

Abramović staged her performance piece, The Artist Is Present, at New York City’s Museum of Modern Art in 2010. The piece, which the New York Times cites as “the biggest performance exhibition that MoMA has mounted” attracted tens of thousands to the museum for the opportunity to participate in the work, which consisted of Abramović sitting across the table from individual visitors. A major documentary by the same name was released in 2012. Abramović, along with a bunch of other stars, was a central figure in Jay-Z’s much circulated video for the single “Picasso Baby.”

All of this would have been easily discoverable had anyone in the right-wing media been the least bit interested in checking Abramović’s credentials.

“I mean, this world is really turning to hell. I am completely amazed, something is taken out of context for the purpose of winning,” Abramović told ArtNews. “We are living in such a strange world.”
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:35 am

Abramović (who again, is an art world icon and has been working since the 1970s) spoke to ArtNews about the whole dumb affair.

“I’m outraged, because this is taken completely out of my context,” Abramović told the outlet, noting that Tony Podesta has been a patron of her art going back to the 1990s. “It was just a normal dinner. It was actually just a normal menu, which I call spirit cooking. There was no blood, no anything else. We just call things funny names, that’s all.”


Her twitter account is AbramovicM666.

Jimmy Savile was a pop culture icon for far longer, and raised exponentially more money for charity, too.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:36 am

Abramović is a pedophile?

GTK

should she be in the Pedophile thread?
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:40 am

seemslikeadream » Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:36 am wrote:Abramović is a pedophile?

GTK


Who does that framing serve? Aside from you, of course.

"Abramovic and Podesta have interests that would shock the shit out of the average American" ≠ "Abramovic is the head witch of pedo-coven.

Just like merely being famous and well-regarded by famous people isn't an endorsement of character. Indeed, it tends to be the opposite, historically.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:41 am

Wombaticus Rex » Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:40 am wrote:
seemslikeadream » Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:36 am wrote:Abramović is a pedophile?

GTK


Who does that framing serve? Aside from you, of course.

"Abramovic and Podesta have interests that would shock the shit out of the average American" ≠ "Abramovic is the head witch of pedo-coven."


"Abramovic and Podesta have interests that would shock the shit out of the average American" ≠ "Abramovic is the head witch of pedo-coven."

Is that true?

Where did you see that I missed it

Who does that framing serve? ....that was your framing I thought


Her twitter account is AbramovicM666.

Jimmy Savile was a pop culture icon for far longer, and raised exponentially more money for charity, too.
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Postby Jerky » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:45 am

For years, my hotmail email, before I switched to Gmail, was tibby666@hotmail.com.

And I swear up and down, I never even MET Jimmy Saville!

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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Jerky » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:47 am

Speaking of "interests that would shock the average American", I imagine not a few Rig Int regulars wouldn't be too keen on having their characters judged based on their book and video collections. AmIright?

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Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:48 am

Jerky » Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:45 am wrote:For years, my hotmail email, before I switched to Gmail, was tibby666@hotmail.com.

And I swear up and down, I never even MET Jimmy Saville!

J.



but have you eaten little children with Abramovic?
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Jerky » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:49 am

Wombat, we've had our differences, but I have never thought of you as anything less than, at the very least, someone who possesses a high intelligence and has a sense of justice and fair play.

This post is absolutely beneath you.

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Wombaticus Rex » 05 Nov 2016 14:35 wrote:
Abramović (who again, is an art world icon and has been working since the 1970s) spoke to ArtNews about the whole dumb affair.

“I’m outraged, because this is taken completely out of my context,” Abramović told the outlet, noting that Tony Podesta has been a patron of her art going back to the 1990s. “It was just a normal dinner. It was actually just a normal menu, which I call spirit cooking. There was no blood, no anything else. We just call things funny names, that’s all.”


Her twitter account is AbramovicM666.

Jimmy Savile was a pop culture icon for far longer, and raised exponentially more money for charity, too.
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Postby Jerky » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:54 am

No ma'am, but I'm sad to admit that I might just confess to such charges were I to be subjected to a few hours of "interrogation" at the hands of Rig Int's new arch-paragon of PENISCRIMETRUTH, that dashing all-American entrepreneur, Erik Prince!

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seemslikeadream » 05 Nov 2016 14:48 wrote:
Jerky » Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:45 am wrote:For years, my hotmail email, before I switched to Gmail, was tibby666@hotmail.com.

And I swear up and down, I never even MET Jimmy Saville!

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but have you eaten little children with Abramovic?
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Postby norton ash » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:57 am

Jerky » Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:49 am wrote:Wombat, we've had our differences, but I have never thought of you as anything less than, at the very least, someone who possesses a high intelligence and has a sense of justice and fair play.

This post is absolutely beneath you.

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Wombaticus Rex » 05 Nov 2016 14:35 wrote:
Abramović (who again, is an art world icon and has been working since the 1970s) spoke to ArtNews about the whole dumb affair.

“I’m outraged, because this is taken completely out of my context,” Abramović told the outlet, noting that Tony Podesta has been a patron of her art going back to the 1990s. “It was just a normal dinner. It was actually just a normal menu, which I call spirit cooking. There was no blood, no anything else. We just call things funny names, that’s all.”


Her twitter account is AbramovicM666.

Jimmy Savile was a pop culture icon for far longer, and raised exponentially more money for charity, too.


I wouldn't take that personally, Jerky. It's just an odd little provocation to be added to the big swirl of weirdness.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sat Nov 05, 2016 11:01 am

Jerky » Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:49 am wrote:This post is absolutely beneath you.


You guys know how much I always value your feedback on my opinions.

We're hovering at the end of a campaign cycle so debased that nothing is beneath anyone. It's not absurd for Abramovic to insist that symbols and concepts she's invoked her entire career have nothing to do with her entire career -- that's just how things are in 2016. Just like it's not absurd to blame Russia for everything going wrong with Hillary Clinton's campaign. Just like it's not absurd to devote 200+ pages to a thread about Donald Trump. These are just the times we live in.

Your point about a book and video collection perhaps speaks more to your personal interests than the rest of RI, but I can only speak for myself. I wouldn't have any problem defending the entire contents of both -- you know, rather than insisting people are just being ignorant and superstitious and blaming them for the fact I even have to talk about it.

All participation in politics is motivated. Every data point is weaponized. I don't think that justifies telling people to look away from the churn.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Nov 05, 2016 11:01 am

little provocation


gets me every time :P
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby FourthBase » Sat Nov 05, 2016 11:02 am

Wombaticus Rex » 05 Nov 2016 09:35 wrote:
Abramović (who again, is an art world icon and has been working since the 1970s) spoke to ArtNews about the whole dumb affair.

“I’m outraged, because this is taken completely out of my context,” Abramović told the outlet, noting that Tony Podesta has been a patron of her art going back to the 1990s. “It was just a normal dinner. It was actually just a normal menu, which I call spirit cooking. There was no blood, no anything else. We just call things funny names, that’s all.”


Her twitter account is AbramovicM666.


:shock: :lol:

Sigh.

I remember a time when something like the logic here in the following would have been derisively snarked into a hundred pieces by Rigorous Intuition.

"Unfortunately, there is nothing conservative propagandists love so much as imagined boogeyman, so instead of Googling Abramović and finding out she’s one of the world’s most famous artists, they instead decided to go with the absurd story that she’s a Satanist."

Oh, you don't remember that time?
Let me refresh your memory:

"Unfortunately, there is nothing conspiracy theorists love so much as imagined boogeyman, so instead of Googling Abramović and finding out she’s one of the world’s most famous artists, they instead decided to go with the absurd story that she’s a Satanist."

As if, uh, being both is an impossibility? Does that logic really sit right with you, SLAD? How can it. Do you not recognize it as the same logic used by Franklin "debunkers", etc.?
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Nov 05, 2016 11:04 am

find me one ounce of proof that she is a pedophile.....one ounce

and then post it in the Pedophile thread

and Drudge doesn't count


there's your fucking logic

what is the truth

Trump has actually been indicted for child rape .......case starting Dec. 16 2016.....that's a fact

oh but you don't care that Trump is maybe a pedophile ...do you?


where's your Rigorous Intuition on him?
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