Who is John Podesta?

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Re: Who is John Podesta?

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:36 pm

tapitsbo » Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:19 am wrote:What I can hardly believe is why these posters are still using 4chan. Everything is compromised but a site like 4chan is so compromised that I have found it pointless and unusable and haven't gone on it since about six years ago


Because it's huge and full of bullshit - that's good cover. Chaff matters.

For instance, anyone perusing page one of RI General Discussion would assume we're here to discuss politics.

We are fiendishly clever and we don't acknowledge that enough.
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Re: Who is John Podesta?

Postby JackRiddler » Sun Nov 13, 2016 4:05 pm

I'm here to discuss politics - deep politics and parapolitics, originally. And all those really wild philosophical ideas, like the simulated universe religion, hauntology, why no aliens here yet, or maybe they are, etc. I don't mind the straight woo stuff insofar as it is not used to obscure political understanding. But there you are. Alex Jones. Soon to visit the White House.
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Re: Who is John Podesta?

Postby slomo » Sun Nov 13, 2016 4:07 pm

JackRiddler » 13 Nov 2016 12:05 wrote:I'm here to discuss politics - deep politics and parapolitics, originally. And all those really wild philosophical ideas, like the simulated universe religion, hauntology, why no aliens here yet, or maybe they are, etc. I don't mind the straight woo stuff insofar as it is not used to obscure political understanding. But there you are. Alex Jones. Soon to visit the White House.

But what if a complete political understanding is not possible without woo?

I mean, that was kind of Jeff's thesis, was it not?
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Re: Who is John Podesta?

Postby guruilla » Sun Nov 13, 2016 6:52 pm

FourthBase » Sun Nov 13, 2016 7:49 am wrote:Can this board finally start taking Pizzagate seriously? I need help figuring out how infested with a similar evil my elite high school alma mater is, once everybody has caught up to speed on Pizzagate.

Never going to happen FB. I suggest focusing on those who are willing and able to keep pace with you. That's what I try to do (tho I do admire Mac for taking on his opposition so relentlessly).

This is continued from previous response to you, over here.

It’s funny that RI is supposed to encourage thinking outside the box, because I have never felt so boxed in as I do when posting here. Based on the evidence, thinking outside the box at RI is a fast track to getting labeled a psychopath. On the other hand, questioning the libertine culture (i.e., not aspiring to imitate our lords and masters in their myriad forms of depravity) makes you a square, or, at a pinch, a budding Nazi.

With the Podesta thing, there’s always going to be this sort of response, it starts with “Nothing to see here, all just a coincidence, projection, devious minds grasping at straws for their own infantile kicks,” to, “It’s just art,” to, finally, eventually, inevitably: “Who says it’s really such a bad thing, anyway?”

Part of what allows this to happen–for the ruling class exploiters and those aspiring to join them who are therefore complicit with them to continue to exploit–is a failure on the part of those of us trying to crack this horrific case wide open to see how we’ve been given the wrong tools for doing it, tools like moral judgment, which only plays into the hands of the exploiters because there isn’t a moral basis for condemning behaviors or thoughts. There never will be, either, because mores continue to change according to what serves the ruling class. The only thing that works is a deepening (and deepening) understanding of the behaviors and of the horrendous harm they are doing–including harm to the perpetrators, to everyone and everything throughout the material universe.

When things of this sort start coming to light, there will always be a small few trying to assist that process by seeing, understanding, and integrating (and sharing their process with others) the darkness that’s being revealed. And there’s always going to be another percentage (larger but probably still small) trying to prevent these things from coming to light because of their own involvement with them. Then there’s a larger majority that’s unwittingly enabling and assisting the second portion while opposing the first, due to their own innate and profound resistance to seeing the unpleasant (I mean unbelievably unpleasant and seemingly endless) underlayer of the world, and hence of their own lives and behaviors (especially if they are parents).

The three “groups” must also correspond with psychological aspects or “programs” in each of us, as individuals. And why wouldn’t all three groups (allowing for some overlap between them) be represented at RI? There may be less of the last group–people who are simply oblivious–due to the focus of this forum; but if so, that would probably only create a vacuum for more of the second group to be drawn in to fill. Every action has an equal and corresponding reaction. It pays to be aware of this, is all I am saying, and without pointing fingers, which never works, not to pretend it’s not happening when evidently it is.
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Re: Who is John Podesta?

Postby Burnt Hill » Sun Nov 13, 2016 7:12 pm

Hey, who here wouldn't want to "crack this horrific case wide open"?
Can we explore one small aspect of the case as presented?
This should be an opportunity to strengthen your case, or at least shed a weakness.
What is so sinister about the blog Evies Crib?
Being a friend of John Podesta is enough to accuse Evie's mother of exploiting her children?
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Re: Who is John Podesta?

Postby tapitsbo » Sun Nov 13, 2016 7:51 pm

The blog and the blogs linked to it are ambiguous in nature but definitely contain some creepy/odd posts - I wasn't up for exploring them thoroughly though, personally

The sites are still up
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Re: Who is John Podesta?

Postby Burnt Hill » Sun Nov 13, 2016 8:06 pm

tapitsbo » Sun Nov 13, 2016 7:51 pm wrote:The blog and the blogs linked to it are ambiguous in nature but definitely contain some creepy/odd posts - I wasn't up for exploring them thoroughly though, personally

The sites are still up


Thanks tapitsbo.
Creepy/odd does not mean exploitation or pedophilia.
So then there really isn't any incriminating evidence, is there?
What would be the strongest circumstantial evidence that you have seen?
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Re: Who is John Podesta?

Postby slomo » Sun Nov 13, 2016 8:11 pm

Burnt Hill » 13 Nov 2016 16:06 wrote:
tapitsbo » Sun Nov 13, 2016 7:51 pm wrote:The blog and the blogs linked to it are ambiguous in nature but definitely contain some creepy/odd posts - I wasn't up for exploring them thoroughly though, personally

The sites are still up


Thanks tapitsbo.
Creepy/odd does not mean exploitation or pedophilia.
So then there really isn't any incriminating evidence, is there?
What would be the strongest circumstantial evidence that you have seen?

Laura Silsby's organization's HQ directly across the street from a pizza place that, up until very recently, used an FBI-recognized symbol for pedophilia as a major design element of its logo, before abruptly changing it only days ago.
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Re: Who is John Podesta?

Postby slomo » Sun Nov 13, 2016 8:14 pm

^^^^ Not to mention those Instagram photos, if real and not doctored, are creepy AF. I mean, seriously....
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Re: Who is John Podesta?

Postby Burnt Hill » Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:00 pm

Okay, thanks slomo.
The Silsby (tenuous) connection is interesting, maybe.
I thought she was just a religious nutjob, who honestly thought she was helping those kids.
I know there is more to it than that.
I don't put much weight in the logo symbology.
Don't know about the instagram photos, was one the girl with her hands taped to the table?
Could be a harmless explanation, maybe not.
So it could be indicative of more, but still a pretty weak case, no?
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Re: Who is John Podesta?

Postby tapitsbo » Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:04 pm

there were lots of other bizarre instagram photos of underground chambers, meat freezers with "kill room" comments

there was the guy in hawaii with his strange ebay and fb accounts and underground bunkers under his moonshine factory that was part of this clique - I recommend you guys look at the "evie" and related blogs that are still up, there's bizarre stuff on there

why would all the accounts go private, ebay feedback be scrubbed, chan posts deleted?

something is up... the reddit thread has most of it but the wordpress is more complete
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Re: Who is John Podesta?

Postby slomo » Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:23 pm

tapitsbo » 13 Nov 2016 17:04 wrote:there were lots of other bizarre instagram photos of underground chambers, meat freezers with "kill room" comments

there was the guy in hawaii with his strange ebay and fb accounts and underground bunkers under his moonshine factory that was part of this clique - I recommend you guys look at the "evie" and related blogs that are still up, there's bizarre stuff on there

why would all the accounts go private, ebay feedback be scrubbed, chan posts deleted?

something is up... the reddit thread has most of it but the wordpress is more complete

I don't think the Wordpress blog has the stuff about the weird underground wifi signals in Hawaii. The Reddit thread had those links.

Re: tenuous nature of the links, yes. Nothing that would hold up in court. But that's kind of the point, eh? No way to gather truly incriminating evidence without a formal investigation. Which, likely, will never happen.

The meat locker thing was the most disturbing piece of evidence in my opinion, but by itself without all the other context it isn't quite incriminating.
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Re: Who is John Podesta?

Postby slomo » Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:29 pm

If you're a religious nutjob, shouldn't you be following the rules of the country in which you are operating? And, although geographic location isn't everything (all kinds of weird/different businesses end up being neighbors) it kind of is odd to have two Podesta/Clinton-linked businesses close to each other in a non-central location of DC, one a super-square Baptist outfit, another one dealing with extremely disturbing chthonic art/performance/imagery, and the only thing they have in common is ... children.
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Re: Who is John Podesta?

Postby Burnt Hill » Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:38 pm

tapisbo there was nothing at that Evie's Crib blog but that vacuous title.
Haven't seen the meat locker stuff, slomo, or the Wi-Fi.
Sure it warrants a hard look, I thought there was a smoking gun or something from what Fourth Base and guruilla have suggested.
Thanks for your help, gents.
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Re: Who is John Podesta?

Postby tapitsbo » Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:42 pm

the combination of square/fundamentalist protestant organizations with edgy in-your-face hipster art is not surprising at all, I'm sure it's a familiar coupling for many north americans.

there's an academic article about the child trafficking charge, how different is this potentially from the Americares stuff? We're not under any delusions here that the Clintons are somehow on a radically different team than the Bush mob, right?

there was lots of weird stuff on the evie blog and the ones it was linked to about giving babies ambien, meeting barack obama, showing a man dressed up as a doctor with the comment "malpractice", comments about magazine photo shoots and trips between luxembourg (!) and DC, etc. and of course the child in that very creepy blog is linked to Podesta's associates

why has so much been disappeared in the past week including chan posts scrubbed (rare!) and businesses changing their logos?!

I'm not trying to "prove" anything here, I'm suggesting that something is going on that needs to be better understood

"nothing to see here" makes zero sense in this situation. this isn't about trump vs. clinton either as we know trump is tied to epstein and other bizarre individuals. It's not even about some culture conflict either - all the left leaning people on this board currently seem to be strenuously disavowing the "comet pizza" aesthetic
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