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Postby crikkett » Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:57 am

8bitagent » Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:34 am wrote:As if Sheriff Clarke, Sheriff Joe, Rep. King, Newt and Ghouliani wont be giddy to bring in a police state on steroids


Sheriff Joe lost his reelection. So there's that.
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Postby tapitsbo » Sun Nov 13, 2016 6:11 am

SECRET PRISONS OVERSEAS AND TORTURE NEVER STOPPED UNDER THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION

trump hyping it is still disgusting

but media acting like it hasn't been going on the past 8 years are also lying and omitting to help sell their horses in the race
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby 8bitagent » Sun Nov 13, 2016 7:10 am

crikkett » Sun Nov 13, 2016 4:57 am wrote:
8bitagent » Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:34 am wrote:As if Sheriff Clarke, Sheriff Joe, Rep. King, Newt and Ghouliani wont be giddy to bring in a police state on steroids


Sheriff Joe lost his reelection. So there's that.


Thats kind of scary Joe lost. Means he can be easily swept into the SS (or TT?) Trumpenreich with Sheriff Clarke to head the anti protestor death squads :(
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Postby JackRiddler » Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:26 pm

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“The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy.”
@realDonaldTrump, 6 November 2012

"We can’t let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided!"
@realDonaldTrump, 7 November 2012

CBS News: "In several tweets he later deleted, Trump wondered how Obama won even though Republican nominee Mitt Romney had more votes (though in the end, Obama won the popular vote as well)." Note: Not "in the end" - Obama was clearly ahead in popular vote and electoral votes on election night.

“He lost the popular vote by a lot and won the election,” Trump tweeted. “We should have a revolution in this country!”

Story:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trum ... weetstorm/

Screen shot including deleted messages on Twitter from 2012:
http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intel ... 0.h473.jpg

First Twitter message above:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 6504494082

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Postby 8bitagent » Sun Nov 13, 2016 7:53 pm

Steve Bannon has just been tapped as chief strategist and senior counselor to President Trump.

Tomorrow its reported that Alex Jones, Anne Coulter, Pat Buchanan and Pepe the Frog will be wave 2 of the cabinet appointees, with
Milo Yiannapolis as white house press secretary :)
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Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Nov 13, 2016 7:55 pm

Do any of Trumps fascists have to pass background checks?
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Postby JackRiddler » Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:12 pm

seemslikeadream » Sun Nov 13, 2016 6:55 pm wrote:Do any of Trumps fascists have to pass background checks?


I've always wondered about that. Since of course everyone "has to," and yet it's not a constitutional requirement for appointees, whose approval is subject only to the Senate, and one cannot imagine an FBI veto over advisers could survive a legitimate court ruling, or even get that far. (Attempts at "enforcement" of a presidential refusal to drop a job offer would come in the form of leaks to the media, or some covertly-planned retaliation to be revealed later.) It's just one of those things accepted as a fact of life in the never-ended Cold War. The political police get to do a vetting of the elected monarch's appointments. Who vets the vetters?
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Postby tapitsbo » Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:22 pm

All the supranational hushed up or officially secret Five Eyes type groups blur the line between public and private and they seem to continually dominate the higher echelons of anglosphere governments who vet everyone else like the "officials" who face the public
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Postby NaturalMystik » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:22 am

Luther Blissett » Fri Nov 11, 2016 8:52 am wrote:Like a virtual reality alien invasion? I would not be surprised.


Indeed... Seems about time to start playing out that scenario.

Is there any actual chance that the Electoral College will flip? It kinda seems like if that was ever to happen, now is the time.
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Postby JackRiddler » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:34 am

Basically zero chance, but there is this brewing, with calls for states worth another 106 electoral votes to pass this legislation, in which case it is activated and a legalist path opens up. Under these laws (in 10 states), it's an agreement among them, does not require federal law or an Amendment. Now there is no chance of this given control of states. Passage of it in California, say, and introduction of bills in Republican states (which would be shot down) would have the effect of initiating a movement to actually end or circumvent the EC. Eventually. And we could hope it turns into a more general democracy movement to go after all of the money influence, gerrymandering, voter suppression, etc. The fantasy scenario would be on the level of something like the release of video showing Trump literally murdering someone, or the equivalent, but even that would just mean Pence is president ahead of (presumably some Republicans') schedule. (Then again, maybe there's a Pence tape too!)

The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact (NPVIC) is an agreement among a group of U.S. states and the District of Columbia to award all their respective electoral votes to whichever presidential candidate wins the overall popular vote in the 50 states and the District of Columbia. The compact is designed to ensure that the candidate who wins the most popular votes is elected president, and it will come into effect only when it will guarantee that outcome.[2][3]

As of 2016, it has been adopted by ten states and the District of Columbia, whose 165 combined electoral votes represent 30.7% of the total Electoral College vote, and 61.1% of the 270 votes needed for it to have legal force. All of them have been Democratic states, although the Compact passed in 2016 in Republican-controlled chambers in Arizona and New York. Swing states have shown less willingness to join the Compact, although it has passed chambers in states such as Colorado, Maine, Michigan, Nevada and New Mexico.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:17 pm

‘MY GOAL’
Steve Bannon, Trump's Top Guy, Told Me He Was 'A Leninist' Who Wants To ‘Destroy the State’


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... inist.html


Bannon’s support for European far-right parties runs far deeper than his interest in Marion Maréchal-Le Pen or the National Front. He brags about his international Breitbart operation as “the platform” for the American alt-right, and has for years been thinking globally, with an affinity for the United Kingdom Independence Party (UKIP), Alternative for Germany (AfD), and the Party for Freedom Party (PVV) in the Netherlands, all of which have earned glowing coverage on the pages of Breitbart.


Breitbart, which currently has operations in London and Jerusalem, certainly has plans to expand in France and Germany with new bureaus to cultivate and promote the populist-nationalist lines there.
“He has long wanted to work with all of those parties, but that was only in promoting them with Breitbart,” a source close to Bannon told The Daily Beast. “Now he has the power of the White House to do it.”



Trump Flippant About Abortion Care Access If ‘Roe’ Is Overturned
Nov 14, 2016, 9:38am Ally Boguhn
The Republican president-elect on 60 Minutes Sunday night reiterated his pledge to nominate Supreme Court justices who are hostile to abortion rights.
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Trump suggested during his CBS interview that it was “irrelevant” whether he supports marriage equality as “it was settled in the Supreme Court.” He added that marriage equality “had been settled. And, I’m fine with that.”


Reiterating his promise to appoint anti-choice justices to the U.S. Supreme Court, Trump told Lesley Stahl that he is “pro-life” and that “the judges will be pro-life.”

“But what about overturning” the law, asked Stahl, referring to Roe.

Trump replied that “if it ever were overturned, it would go back to the states.” When pushed by Stahl to explain what would happen to people in states that made abortion care unavailable, Trump noted that some will have to travel to find care.
https://rewire.news/article/2016/11/14/ ... verturned/
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Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:42 pm

Our Sexist-in-Chief: Telltale Signs of A Misogynist In the Era Of Trump
In a campaign season that has been full of it.

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politi ... -era-trump

Donald Trump's Dark Promise: We Will Deport Two to Three Million People
The immigration nightmare begins and Americans are terrified.

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/d ... ion-people
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Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:59 pm

What's Mike Pence hiding in his emails?
Fatima Hussein , IndyStar 12:42 p.m. EST November 14, 2016

Mike Pence wants his communications limited from public access. Experts say this sets a "dangerous precedent."

Now that the presidential campaign and most of the furor over Hillary Clinton's email scandal are behind us, the Pence administration is going to court to argue for its own brand of email secrecy.

The administration is fighting to conceal the contents of an email sent to Gov. Mike Pence by a political ally. That email is being sought by a prominent Democratic labor lawyer who says he wants to expose waste in the Republican administration.

But legal experts fear the stakes may be much higher than mere politics because the decision could remove a judicial branch check on executive power and limit a citizen's right to know what the government is doing and how it spends taxpayer dollars.

"It comes down to this — the court is giving up its ability to check another branch of government, and that should worry people," said Gerry Lanosga, an Indiana University media professor specializing in public records law.

In the case, Indianapolis attorney William Groth is appealing a decision handed down by Marion Superior Court in April, which decided that redactions the administration made to a public record could not be second-guessed by the court.

The focal point in the case is a political “white paper” that had been excluded from Groth’s public records request.

Pence’s legal defense team claims the white paper is attorney work product protected by Indiana’s Access to Public Records Act — and at the end of the day, matters of public records are not for a court to decide.

Groth argues the lower court misapplied the law.

“I think governmental transparency is an important concern of anyone who lives in a democracy – the governor cannot put himself above the law,” Groth told the IndyStar.

How the case came about

The matter stems from a lawsuit filed after President Barack Obama announced in November 2014 that he was taking new steps to "fix America’s broken immigration system." Those steps included offering deferred enforcement of immigration laws for parents of children born in the United States, and for children who entered the United States before they were 16 years old.

The action drew the ire of Republican governors across the country, including Pence, who called the policy a "profound mistake."

Pence, joined in on a lawsuit led by Texas Gov. Greg Abbot in State of Texas, et al v. United States, with the blessing of the Indiana Attorney General Greg Zoeller. Zoeller's office did not respond to IndyStar requests for comment.

Pence hired Indianapolis law firm Barnes & Thornburg to join the Texas litigation. A representative from the firm — which is also representing Pence in this case — did not respond to IndyStar requests for interview.

In December 2014, Groth requested information regarding Pence's decision to hire outside counsel and the cost to Indiana taxpayers.

"I think joining the lawsuit without the attorney general and hiring that firm was a waste of taxpayer dollars and the people have the right to know how much of their money was spent,” Groth said. Groth is known in Indiana for representing the plaintiffs in the 2008 U.S. Supreme Court voter identification case, Crawford v. Marion County Election Board.

Pence produced the documents in the request “but those documents included substantial redaction,” according to court documents.

The 57-page response also included an email that Daniel Hodge, Abbott's chief of staff, sent to 30 recipients in various states asking them to join the lawsuit against Obama.

The message included an attached white paper, but the governor failed to produce the document, according to court records.

After a yearlong trial, the Superior Court held that the issue was not a matter for the courts to decide, citing a Indiana Supreme Court case decided just days before.

In a 4-1 ruling, the Indiana Supreme Court ruled in Citizens Action Coalition, et al. v. Indiana House Rep., that under the Indiana Constitution’s separation of powers clause the legislature's redactions were nonjusticiable, a legal term that means not for the court to decide. Groth was also the attorney representing the plaintiffs in that case.

Groth appealed in June and the Indiana Court of Appeals will hear oral arguments Nov. 21 at 1 p.m. at the Statehouse, where each side will be allowed 20 minutes for arguments.

'A dangerous legal precedent'

Paul Jefferson, a former professor of state constitutional law at the Indiana University Robert H. McKinney School of Law, said the major question for the appellate court to decide is "whether they're going to extend that (Citizens Action Coalition, et al. v. Indiana House Rep.) to the executive branch as a whole."

He said if the court rules in favor of the governor, "that would severely limit the Access to Public Records Act."

It's a fear that even the highest levels of court have warned about.

In the sole dissent of the Citizens Action Coalition lawsuit, Indiana Supreme Court Justice Justice Robert Rucker stated: “The majority’s ruling is not only premature, but it unfortunately weighs in on a significant separation of powers issue without an adequate record.”

The state's public access counselor, Luke Britt, appointed by Pence in 2013, also fears what might happen if other public officials invoke the Citizens Action Coalition privilege. "After that case, a lot of local government officials were trying to claim a similar privilege — that was one of my fears."

Jefferson said that "this will be interesting in part because it is hard to draw clean lines between what would be and what wouldn’t be if excluded from a public records request if the court is going to exempt the executive branch from public records review."

Lanosga, the public access professor, says the outcome of the case will set a precedent on what are appropriate levels of transparency in government.

"It shows no accountability," he said, "that an agency can say things are exempt just because and citizens have no recourse."
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Mon Nov 14, 2016 1:59 pm

seemslikeadream » Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:42 pm wrote:Donald Trump's Dark Promise: We Will Deport Two to Three Million People
The immigration nightmare begins and Americans are terrified.

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/d ... ion-people


More high quality analysis from Alternet.

2.5 million deportations under Barack Obama was a regrettable mistake -- 2.5 million deportations under Donald Trump, a "nightmare" that leaves Americans "terrified."

It's almost like nobody has a vested interest in keeping their readers informed.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:01 pm

oh so Obama hasn't deported enough yet ...ok


I guess this is Obama's fault also
FBI: Hate crimes against Muslims up by 67 percent in 2015

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-hate-cr ... cent-2015/
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