What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

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Postby dada » Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:08 am

Probably the single biggest enabler of human trafficking and child prostitution is military bases. Where's the public outcry, the 'internet buzz'? Besides being the ugly, mundane truth, it isn't fun. It plainly says 'you are powerless to stop this.'

The subject of this thread, however, is fascinating. Solving a mystery. Evil 'elites' hiding in plain sight, 'magic,' art, internet gossip, it's got it all. We can all moralize while we stare at our screens. Fight the power.

It feels like watching people play one of those interactive movie games from the turn of the century. Those games sucked, no one argues. Click, watch a cut scene. Click, watch a cut scene.

And that's what ninety percent of the Internet is. A time sink. Escape. The other ten percent is useful as a research tool, and for making plans in the real world.

When we don't believe something, we say, "I'm not buying it." That's the consumer in us talking. And the consumer not-so-secretly wants to be a consumer product. We're building our brands. Money, status, page views. All the important things in life.

Art is a creative act. It's another thing people do to occupy their time before they die. After that, it's a commodity. The art world trades on these dead things. It's the reverse midas touch, turning gold to shit. Art products are the waste product of the artistic creative act. No wonder the museum curators wear gloves.

At least the act of creating art is worth while. Not like 'magic.' Magic is like playing those scratch-off cards you buy at the deli. Look, three sevens in a row, I won.

Without the aura of mysticism, things like art and magic lose their value. We don't like that. We want to use them to play consumer games. So we invent our theories. Magic has a life of its own, watch out. It'll capture weak minds if they're not careful. I think it already has.

To maintain that magic has an aura, is only in service to yourself. Circles, squares, stars and squiggly lines are twisted in service to satanic forces. Status and page views go up.
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

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Postby maco144 » Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:36 am

C&P from this thread....
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1431715


There seems to be an organization central to all the finds that we have been uncovering over the past few weeks. One which links Laura Silsby, James Alefantis, David Brock, other individuals that I loosely refer to as the “DC Group” as well as others.

See my past threads for more info on Silsby, as well as Alefantis and his Comet Ping Pong pizza establishment:

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/com ... convicted/

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/com ... the_laura/
I. The NCMEC

What is the NCMEC?

This organization is the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC). See their web page here:

http://www.missingkids.com/

The NCMEC website says “In January 1984 NCMEC was incorporated by private individuals as a non profit corporation to serve as a national resource center and clearinghouse on issues related to missing and sexually exploited children.”

The term “private corporation” is key here. They do not have government oversight. This means they act as gate-keeper for the government to deal with child porn material without any oversight over what they’re doing, and law enforcement cannot get involved without them giving a go ahead.

NCMEC haven’t exactly been responsible in this oversight free role they are given either. They are in the middle of a law suit over their handling of child pornography constituting a violation of the Fourth Amendment:

http://archive.is/TROdU

The details of the suit are as follows: AOL maintains a database of hash values assigned to images classified as child abuse so that they are more easily identified/tracked. AOL was simply sending NCMEC the images without bothering to open them and verify the contents. So NCMEC was violating the right to protection from undue searches and seizures by opening what AOL sent. Notice how in this instance, only NCMEC was aware of what the photo actually was (and think about how that could be used to keep a lid on information).

The NCMEC is significant mainly because of the oddly large number of connections it has. They appear to have some strong ties to Hollywood: Brian Cranston has been involved with them in the past and helped to make educational resources for them:

http://archive.is/MiWnk

II. NCMEC Connections to Silsby and the “DC Group”

Especially interesting is that the NCMEC has connections to both stories I have previously run concerning child sex trafficking.

A. Laura Silsby

Since being arrested in Haiti for trying to steal 33 children and getting let off the hook with the help of the Clinton’s, Silsby has moved on to inappropriately continue to work in the anti-human trafficking sector. Silsby moved to Idaho and adoped the last name Gayler.

Silsby has moved on to work for a company called AlertSense which works with a number of US states on their alert systems, which include Amber Alerts.

https://www.alertsense.com/industries/#government

http://archive.is/4eWSi

Here is a local info webpage showing her working for AlertSense, as well as AlertSense’s main webpage showing that Silsby works on their Executive Team. Why would they let a woman convicted of trafficking children anywhere near systems that dealt with Amber Alerts?

http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Laura-Silsby/-1978794537

http://archive.is/wka7C

https://www.alertsense.com/company/executive-team/

http://archive.is/xFplZ

And here is a less academic source covering Silsby’s move from a Haitian prison to AlertSense:

http://rebrn.com/re/convicted-child-tra ... b-2942303/

http://archive.is/kzAQS

So how does this relate to the NCMEC? They are in charge of the Amber Alert program:

http://www.missingkids.org/Amber

http://archive.is/91WBn
III. NCMEC Connection to Alefantis/Brock

A. James Alefantis/David Brock/the “DC Group” Connections to Jeff Koons

Remember how James Alefantis posted an “art” piece by Jeff Koons showing him having sex with what is purportedly his pornstar wife?

https://i.sli.mg/IFs0bU.pngPNG

It turns out that Jeff Koons is more to Alefantis than an artist he admires. To begin with, Koons is very involved with the DC/East Coast art scene.

Here on page 10 both Alefantis and Koons are mentioned as being involved in the DC art scene for example:

http://digital.modernluxury.com/publica ... =9965&p=12

But none of these circumstantial bits of evidence are as important as the discovery that Correct the Record paid Jeff Koons $50,000 according to their SEC filing, seen here on page 9:

http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/318/2016071 ... navpanes=0

Correct the Record is run by David Brock, who is in a relationship with James Alefantis. Here is a link confirming this and showing them caught up with another individual in some kind of blackmail love triangle:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/02 ... ement.html

Here is a photo of Brock on Alefantis' Instagram:

https://i.sli.mg/p58Eks.pngPNG

B. Jeff Koons Work Connections to the NCMEC

How is the connection to Koons Important? Koons is a board member of the International Center for Missing and Exploited Children (ICMEC). You can find an admission of that fact on his own web page:

http://www.jeffkoons.com/biography-summary

http://archive.is/hfUS0

The ICMEC was founded in 1998 by none other than the NCMEC:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internati ... d_Children

http://archive.is/zI508
IV. NCMEC Connections to Thorn and Hollywood

A. What is Thorn?

The NCMEC investigation arose while I was looking in to an organization called Thorn. Thorn: Digital Defenders of Children (previously known as DNA) was founded by Hollywood personalities Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore. Wikipedia mentions that several other Hollywood stars support Thorn, and Brian Cranston (who also has worked with the NCMEC) has sponsored an event for them recently:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorn_(organization)

http://archive.is/YKCJV

http://www.wearethorn.org/

http://archive.is/RL6Il

One of the main services Thorn provides is creation of product (termed “SpotLight” and “Solis” for use on the clear and dark net respectively) that help with API, software which sifts through the material.

It does this sifting by scanning the hash symbols which were previously mentioned in this post (relevant to the case which landed the NCMEC in hot water for violating the Fourth Amendment). Thorn was involved with the creation of this hash symbol identification system.

https://www.wearethorn.org/spotlight/

http://archive.is/NYOZP

Despite Thorns claim’s about the effectiveness of their software, they have only identified 6,325 victims and 2,186 traffickers. These numbers are quite a paltry drop in the pond when you consider the fact that over 800,000 children are reported missing each year:

http://archive.is/RVFTn

B. Thorn's Connection to the NCMEC

Thorn doesn’t just sell products to “help” combat child trafficking though, they also facilitate a meeting of various companies’ tech advisors in what is known as the Thorn Tech Task Force. Members of the Task Force include Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Twitter, Dropbox, Yahoo, Instagram, Tumblr, Imgur and Pinterest (many of whom were caught favoring the Clintons in the recent election). Officially, Thorn merely provides this guideline for the Task Force and doesn’t take an official role.

https://www.wearethorn.org/sound-practi ... ild-abuse/

http://archive.is/eVL08

Once the various representatives in the task force go back to work, they collaborate closely with the NCMEC. And they are working with the very hash system that got the NCMEC in hot water for Fourth Amendment violations.

Again, when their hash sharing system catches an image, it is shared only between the companies and the NCMEC. And the recent lawsuit the NCMEC is embroiled in indicates that the companies don’t even look at flagged images themselves. Think about how this could absolve them of liability while also ensuring that no one other than the NCMEC was able to view or access the flagged images.

The NCMEC, ICMEC and Thorn all need to be placed under more intense scrutiny and investigation given Thorn’s work with the NCMEC and the NCMEC’s association with AlertSense (where Silsby works) and Koons, who has associations with David Brock and his partner James Alefantis.
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby divideandconquer » Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:54 am

The subject of this thread, however, is fascinating. Solving a mystery. Evil 'elites' hiding in plain sight, 'magic,' art, internet gossip, it's got it all. We can all moralize while we stare at our screens. Fight the power.


True enough.

This "subject" raises my adrenaline level like no other; it enrages me, makes me feel like I need to get to the bottom of it, and expose its horrific tentacles when the truth is, I'm powerless. However, I keep telling myself if more people know--as if I'm going to make that happen :lol2: --the more people that try to expose this horror, then perhaps I..we will make a small dent.

But, if I look at it objectively, I post away mostly to make myself feel better, because I'm probably making it worse by allowing myself to get lost in the details of this almighty "psyop". Not that this is a psyop created out of whole cloth like so many others, but a psyop that reveals just enough of their revolting reality, and at the same time, not enough of this depravity, to do anything but achieve its many goals, goals, which have been listed throughout this thread.

Happy Thanksgiving, everyone. :bigsmile
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Postby divideandconquer » Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:12 pm

Another thing I left out since I'm confessing my less than noble actions. It's much easier to delve into this virtual reality then confront the real problems in my real life that I have no idea how to fix. Not that I don't care about this issue...I really do--so much so that I open my big mouth and alienate everyone I know--but it's still easier to sit in front of a computer and search for so called evidence of this horror than figure out what I should do, need to do, work up the courage to do...

So on that note.



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Postby maco144 » Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:15 pm

It is extremely easy to research and help the cause. It is even easier to share the truth of the pedophocracy with your acquaintances so they can integrate the truth of what the powerful are really into into their paradigms. Saying theres nothing to do and its all a psyop is just about the laziest, lame thing someone can do.

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More 'art' for the idiots. Nothing to see here, move along!


edit: divideandconquer if you dont think there is some synchromysticism happening when we both make posts at the same time using the same image, yours a question and mine an answer, the sign is right there friend.
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby slomo » Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:46 pm

The reason I delve into this topic is not because I think anything can ultimately be done. The World is what it is.

This is ultimately a spiritual issue for me. As I tend towards gnosticism, I think there is value (for myself and others) in revealing the true nature of the world we live in. It is more like one of the hell realms than it is like any realm of paradise. Once you accept that fact, it becomes clearer how to orient yourself spiritually. If enough people orient themselves accordingly, the world will change naturally. On the other hand, without such a widespread change, destroying this particular ring of human traffickers will only create a vacuum for others to fill.
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Postby maco144 » Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:48 pm

Here is an active call for help by one of the people who exposed twittergate. Help locate this homes location. Currently believed to be in big sur or san fran.
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:13 pm

The FBI Used a Single Warrant to Hack Over 8,000 Computers in 120 Countries
Elizabeth King
BY ELIZABETH KING

NOV 23, 2016

The FBI used a single warrant to hack into more than 8,000 computers in 120 different countries, according to newly released evidentiary hearing transcripts. The warrant was initially issued in February last year which enabled the FBI to set up a sting operation on the child pornography site Playpen, where the Bureau set up malware to get IP addresses from users of the dark web site.

Motherboard reports that this is the largest ever (known) hack carried out by a law enforcement agency in the United States. Motherboard previously reported that the warrant busted around 1,000 alleged users of Playpen in the U.S., and that the FBI had also hacked computers in Australia, Austria, Chile, Colombia, Denmark, and Greece.
http://www.complex.com/life/2016/11/fbi ... -computers
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Postby 82_28 » Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:18 pm

maco144 » Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:48 am wrote:Here is an active call for help by one of the people who exposed twittergate. Help locate this homes location. Currently believed to be in big sur or san fran.
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How the hell are we supposed to "locate" it with the tools at our disposal when it is well known the Earth is flat? We could be way off in latitude and longitude because both of those do not exist.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:20 pm

:P
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Postby NeonLX » Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:24 pm

We've been playing basketball with our globe. Might as well get some use out of the worthless thing.
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Postby Project Willow » Thu Nov 24, 2016 2:07 pm



This video uses the scandal to attack a well known survivor artist, who has used her work to spread awareness about the very thing the video author claims to be concerned about, and the claim that Bourgeoise would reference Dahmer is just insane.

I can find no evidence whatsoever Kim Noble, the survivor, ever had her work displayed at Comet Ping Pong. How hard is it for these people to take 5 minutes to investigate these artists and stop lying about them. This is disgusting, and I'm beginning to think it was set off from get go as an op to discredit any and all such claims as entirely right wing hysteria.

Awful.

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Postby slomo » Thu Nov 24, 2016 2:27 pm

The videos are useless at best, but possibly disinfo if they are filled with claims that can easily be proven false (e.g. Kim Noble). That's why I think the text summaries, with URLs supporting the claims, are the best way to become informed on the topic.

Note, however, that I still think there is a non-negligible probability that this could all be a psy-op (built on top of some real evidence) designed to discredit any news about pedophilia and human-trafficking rings, and to link the topic with right wing hysteria.
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Postby guruilla » Thu Nov 24, 2016 3:29 pm

Project Willow » Thu Nov 24, 2016 2:07 pm wrote:This video uses the scandal to attack a well known survivor artist, who has used her work to spread awareness about the very thing the video author claims to be concerned about, and the claim that Bourgeoise would reference Dahmer is just insane.

I can find no evidence whatsoever Kim Noble, the survivor, ever had her work displayed at Comet Ping Pong. How hard is it for these people to take 5 minutes to investigate these artists and stop lying about them. This is disgusting, and I'm beginning to think it was set off from get go as an op to discredit any and all such claims as entirely right wing hysteria.

Awful.

Apologies for the torture of the english language, just too perturbed to write well.

I haven't watched the video, but it's probably inevitable that people get confused when it comes to distinguishing between survivor art that's an essential means for a person to resolve their experiences, and art that sensationalizes, diminishes or exploits survivors' experiences (art which could also be done by survivors); and when/if abusers themselves use the art for their own titillation, or whatever, while this in no way implicates the artists who did it, it does compromise the work in other people's eyes, and there's probably no way around that. Noble's work is very obviously (to me) in the former category and there's nothing sensationalist or titillating about it. It's also pretty hard to see how abusers would get a kick out of it, unless they just enjoy being reminded of their "work." With Djurdjevic's art, it's hard to guess whether it's inspired by her own experiences as a victim, a perp, both, or neither, but I did find it had a creepily "erotic" (exploitative) feel to it. It looked like drawn records of crime scenes to me, "snuff art," and it was all-too-easy for me to imagine how perpetrators would "enjoy" having those sorts of reminders on their walls, for everyone to see, like (literal?) kill trophies.

Why is "the claim that Bourgeoise would reference Dahmer ... just insane"? My brother was a wealthy artist who wrote letters to Moira Hindley; isn't a fascination with serial murder and other human abominations quite characteristic of a certain upper-middle class artistic set?

Regarding Pizzagate being a discredit-op, I don't think it's necessarily either/or; it may be a case of a contained, semi-controlled "scandal" in which heads that are expendable get to roll (even if only via inside-retributions) while the amorphous, hard to prove nature of it (as with Hampstead) makes it useful for its "outre" elements to divide people. There are those who know it points to something real (even if it were proven to be a "hoax"), and then there are those who "know" there's nothing real to point to, and see it as proof of how nutty all that stuff is (and of the need to shut down all these witch-hunt fake news sites). The fact that RI is pretty much divided down the middle (with very little area in between the viewpoints) shows how well this present case acts as a polarization narrative.

I don't know how those of us who know these things are happening can reject the whole thing, however, because it so clearly intersects with practices, procedures, and modus operandi that have already been established as real.
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