What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby Jerky » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:00 am

If you believe in Pizzagate, you are a sucker and a fool, and have succumbed to a plan by The Powers That Be to weaponize doubt (see Moon Landing Hoax Psyop, Flat Earth Theory Resurgence Psyop, and Mandela Effect Psyop for recent real world examples).

If you are actively promoting Pizzagate, you are either a witting or unwitting vector for dangerous disinformation propaganda... the REAL conspiracy behind recent world events (see GamerGate and affiliated MRA/PUA/"redpill" anti-feminist activist movements, the completely artificial rise of the anti-liberal/anti-progressive Youtube personality ecosystem/echo chamber, and the blatant theft of the most recent Presidential election for - not by - Donald Trump, while the mainstream media - now virtually completely defanged thanks to decades of "conservative" attacks from every angle - for real world examples).

If you think the Clintons are among history's greatest monsters, AND that Hitler suffers from "a bad rap", then you are both a victim and a perpetrator of this new Conspiracy Culture paradigm (see the reactionary right-wing / fascist turn taken by InfoWars, Red Ice, David Icke, Mad Cow, and pretty much every conspiracy outlet bigger than Rig Int for real world examples).

I goddamn wish I were kidding about this.

We are so fucked, on so many levels.

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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby Jerky » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:07 am

Joe Hillshoist » 30 Nov 2016 08:52 wrote:FFS what you just posted is meaningless noise.

Find out what basement he stores the tomatoes in (or where he stores them, it may have been a figure of speech and they store them in a warehouse.) If it happens to be the basement at the pizza joint and you can demonstrate that it has a basement and he lied when that basement was implicated in dirty deeds then you will have a point that actually carries weight.

Right now you are just trying to link stuff that isn't necessarily linked to bolster your case. Its the same as what dodgy cops and prosecutors do when they are trying to secure a conviction and haven't got the actual evidence.


Brother, that's all ANY of this Pizzagate nonsense is.

Meanwhile, your kids are in far greater peril in a conservative Christian Republican lawmaker's living room, or (god help us) in a Catholic church than they would ever be at even the weirdest, wildest "avant garde" rock show at Comet Ping Pong.

They don't care about facts. We are now living post-facts.

They don't care about the truth. We are now in a post-truth world.

I suppose there's nothing we can do except not fall for it, and serve as an example to others.

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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby coffin_dodger » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:41 am

Wow, thanks for setting everything straight Jerky - and letting us all know that anyone who thinks differently to you is a fool! What stupid idiots some of us are! Your words are so succinct, your arguments so persausive - and your conflation of pizzagate with Hitler is a truly great insight!
Thanks so much - can't wait to hear more.
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby Jerky » Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:22 am

If you think Pizzagate is anything but a fascist disinfo scheme, then you ARE a fool. It's not a matter of believing different than me, it's a matter of believing outright disinfo propaganda BULLSHIT.

J.

coffin_dodger » 30 Nov 2016 09:41 wrote:Wow, thanks for setting everything straight Jerky - and letting us all know that anyone who thinks differently to you is a fool! What stupid idiots some of us are! Your words are so succinct, your arguments so persausive - and your conflation of pizzagate with Hitler is a truly great insight!
Thanks so much - can't wait to hear more.
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby Jerky » Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:51 am

Also, you want proof of what I say above?

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23PizzaGate&src=typd

Enjoy.

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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby Heaven Swan » Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:52 am

Jerky wrote:If you believe in Pizzagate, you are a sucker and a fool, and have succumbed to a plan by The Powers That Be to weaponize doubt (see Moon Landing Hoax Psyop, Flat Earth Theory Resurgence Psyop, and Mandela Effect Psyop for recent real world examples).

If you are actively promoting Pizzagate, you are either a witting or unwitting vector for dangerous disinformation propaganda... the REAL conspiracy behind recent world events (see GamerGate and affiliated MRA/PUA/"redpill" anti-feminist activist movements, the completely artificial rise of the anti-liberal/anti-progressive Youtube personality ecosystem/echo chamber, and the blatant theft of the most recent Presidential election for - not by - Donald Trump, while the mainstream media - now virtually completely defanged thanks to decades of "conservative" attacks from every angle - for real world examples).

If you think the Clintons are among history's greatest monsters, AND that Hitler suffers from "a bad rap", then you are both a victim and a perpetrator of this new Conspiracy Culture paradigm (see the reactionary right-wing / fascist turn taken by InfoWars, Red Ice, David Icke, Mad Cow, and pretty much every conspiracy outlet bigger than Rig Int for real world examples).

I goddamn wish I were kidding about this.

We are so fucked, on so many levels.

YOPJ


Thanks for being a voice of sanity and for mentioning the poisonous contribution of the MRA woman-hating contingent.

One of the saddest and most infuriating things about Pizzagate, and I say this as someone who has researched organized abuse including pedo rings in high places, is that the Hillary haters, whether motivated by Trump love or hatred for women, are using the conjectured abuse of children to bolster support for a leader who openly champions sexual assault, wants to knock women back into the stone age in terms of rights and is soon to stand trial (we hope) for raping a child.

With one insane Reddit campaign, they are discrediting legit researchers and survivors who have spoken or will speak out against pedo-criminals.

I don't have time to say more but I'll copy a blog post about women and the aftermath of the election that speaks of the role the mass diffusion of pornography played in preparing the ground for what we are now living.
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby Heaven Swan » Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:00 am

https://forestgreenfeminism.wordpress.c ... on-part-2/

Well, hell: the 2016 Election, Part 2

Posted on November 13, 2016

People still discussing the 2016 US election cycle five days later are deeply divided. It isn’t simply division by sex, because so many (white, heterosexual) women voted for Trump. And it isn’t simply division by a belief that women matter, because I am still arguing with male colleagues on the left, whom I truly believe care about women and women’s issues (just how much is the debate point, because the male left and the male right sound too much alike). The divide might best be framed as one between those who are female and who believe that all women’s lives matter, and those who can’t claim both.

That debate point: how ready are men in the US to see women as equals in status and worth? The logical conclusion from this election, for so very many women, is that men hate us even more than we suspected, and if we are multiply-oppressed (via race, class, being Lesbian, etc.) we are likely even more damned and despised. I used to think “women’s equality” was a low bar, and now I’m looking at it from the underside.

I saw equality as a low bar of achievement because I’d understood it to mean “equality with men” or being “as good as men, LIKE men.” Given the rapes and molestations and other sexualized and non-sexualized violence, and the love of hierarchy enacted the world over by men, equality didn’t appear much of a goal. It seemed even a step or two downward.

But this “equality” is maybe better framed as men seeing women as equals, since men hold the power under patriarchy. And they simply do not. This “equality” is a plea: the low bar I once derided is not even within our reach; we must beg for access. This is not what we felt a week ago, some relative autonomy giving way to shock over the horrifying possibilities of our futures. Instead, our country voted for the candidate who bragged about being a sexual predator, and somehow both women and men found him an acceptable candidate.

Seriously, we are positioned under patriarchy to have to beg men for levelness. Whereas we were set to at least have a woman as president, whatever her flaws, and to use populist pressure to shift her to the left, we found ourselves enduring brutal abuses of her, of other women, of girls, and of men of Color and of marginalized ethnicities and religions. And it increased throughout the campaign. Still, we thought, this country is not going to accept the misogyny and racism and hate outright — we’ve come too far, and have too much in place already, right?

One word: pornography. Pornography set the stage for women being seen as incompatible with leadership. Over the last decades our culture’s view of women has become one of utility (fuckable/ not fuckable) to men, rather than as individual beings in their own right or a collective and marginalized sex-caste. We feel this occasionally (or often) as we pass groups of men or overhear their banter, but many of us have been able to keep it on the periphery of our lives. Unless we’ve recently been raped or sexually harassed, of course. And now pornography has brought us a “First Lady” that a number of American men have seen naked, enjoyed seeing naked. We know because they have begun to brag about it on social media. Her oiled-body nude photos have made the rounds recently on Facebook, and men who are generally respectful of women have stepped aside in their support and cracked brotherly jokes about those photos. We have a new standard for American women, and it is one of objectification and subjugation — in short, hell.

And so we have women who understood that Hillary at least meant holding off the descent into hell, and who are now terrified for their lives. Because eating and shelter are not optional, because marginalization has gone from dangerous to deadly. And we have women who are traumatized by her opponent’s flagrant abuses played over and over in the media, and legitimized by the vote — women who have sobbed for days and who show all the classic PTSD signs, and if functional, only barely.
We haven’t even admitted to ourselves the likely increase in the rape rate, in intimate violence against women and girls — except the rare cases where it has hit the news and social media.

Have we admitted to ourselves the likely increase in violence against women and girls as an outcome of the 2016 election?

Maybe the saddest thing of all is watching women on the left claim there was never any real difference between the candidates, or that it’s acceptable to hold Hillary to an absolutely impossible standard when no man has ever — EVER! — been held to the same. And yes, I would say that women who are still Hillary-bashing do not fit my side of the divide, where women’s lives truly matter. They refuse to see the damage that is possible. Worse, they appear to refuse to care.

Some of this is the baggage of racism, of classism, but some of it, I think, is borne of privilege, of the need to feel better-than in the face of despair. I want to help nurture discussion and deeper communication between women, especially, and leftists, overall. But we will have to face the issues honestly as we work to lessen the damage to the most-marginalized. Here I do mean poverty-class women, Lesbians, race- and ethnicity-marginalized women, and disabled women first.

We can set the agenda on the issues later. Right now we need to heal ourselves, become aware of those things we need that we are most likely to lose, and then settle ourselves for the long conversations. At least that’s what I see.
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby Jerky » Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:54 am

Thank you for your kind words and intriguing post, Swan.

Have you seen the video of the "alpha MAGA bro" on a Delta flight screaming at all the "Hillary bitches" on that flight that they'd "better get used to" the notion that Trump is the boss of them now? Fucking disgusting. Meanwhile, peaceful Muslims were taken off a plane because they spoke in Arabic and it freaked out some of their fellow passengers.

I've been thinking of launching a social media effort to get anyone who ever prepares food for Trump to sneak some feces into his meals so that we can MAKE TRUMP EAT SHIT for REAL.

At least I could die happy, knowing that I'd helped increase the possibility of Trump munching on scat.

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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby dada » Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:59 am

See, now this thread is finally starting to look like how I remember RI to be. Taking a 'conspiracy subject' and turning it inside-out. Making a thoughtful effort to get at what is really going on. Not chasing rabbits, but connecting the very real dots that no one wants to see. Jerky and Heaven Swan, your posts are greatly appreciated.
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby Jerky » Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:24 am

Reading your post made a wave of relief wash over me, Dada. That's how freaked out I am about what I've been watching transpire right before my eyes over the past few weeks, both politically in the USA and parapolitically on the Chan boards and reddit re: Pizzagate. Even a tiny victory like ONE PERSON seeing what I see, in the middle of a vast sea of willful blindness and pig-headed (if feigned) "ignorance" (or is it kayfabe?) in favor of savagely and sadistically reveling in the wanton demonization one's enemies, all without any plausible cause beyond the fact that they hate hate HATE them...

I mean, for fuck's sake... John Podesta?! As far as politicos go, he's been one of the good guys since basically FOREVER. The guy's hat is as white as it gets in DC these days, and there are thousands (if not tens or hundreds of thousands) of brainwashed zombies out there spreading the idea that he's the most disgusting and sinister figure since infamous child-killer Gilles de Rais. And what's worse, he's getting it from the fascists AND the far left (who are continuing a long and storied tradition of being utterly incapable of choosing their battles wisely, and seeing even the most practical forms of moderation as knife-in-the-back TREASON to the CAUSE MAAAAN).

I've said it before, but it's never been truer, in my lifetime, than it is right now. The world has gone totally insane.

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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby coffin_dodger » Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:27 am

dada:
Not chasing rabbits, but connecting the very real dots that no one wants to see

I'd be most grateful if you could explain the 'very real dots' that have been connected by J & HS to disprove the practice of child sacrifice in this thread.
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby Jerky » Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:40 am

There is ZERO evidence for "child sacrifice" in Pizzagate (and most other places, actually). The kind of monsters who actually do molest, rape and murder children do NOT go around telegraphing their intentions by being weird about it, collecing art that might seem odd to the layman, being in weird-ass rock bands or performance art troups or even groups who practice actual ceremonial magic. Mostly, they are family members of their victims. Less frequently, they are authority figures (teachers, coaches, clergy, camp counselors, etc). Of the famous and high profile people who turn out to be abusers, most are conservative Christians with a history of shitting on gays and accusing others of being perverts. Jimmy Saville is a rare outlier, and even he, the worst of the worst, was no murdering Satanist. Just a goofy man with money and access to victims that fit his fetish: young people.

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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby maco144 » Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:58 am

Jerky youre too much lol. There are now dozens/hundreds of accounts of rape and pedophilia at the highest levels for the last several decades. Keep burying your head in the sand and calling it a psyop.
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby coffin_dodger » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:00 pm

Jerky:
The kind of monsters who actually do molest, rape and murder children do NOT go around telegraphing their intentions by being weird about it, collecing art that might seem odd to the layman, being in weird-ass rock bands or performance art troups or even groups who practice actual ceremonial magic.

Incidentally - I wasn't addressing you, I was addressing a cheerleader. But whatever.
Re: your quote above - how do you know this? Can you point me to the source of this 'definitive truth', please. I'm guessing it's in your head.
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Postby kool maudit » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:00 pm

it's mainly conservatives in real life tho.

also a lot of racists do it.
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