What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

[maco144]

Just another member of the Clinton network that happens to do a lot of charity work with young kids. What's that, the pedo symbol as the logo? Best to ignore and not dig!

[Jerky]

Wow. You're so troubled by my take on PizzaGate that not only do you feel the need to insult and belittle me, but also those who AGREE with my take.

I think that speaks more to your own doubts about what you've come to believe regarding this 4th Reich psy-op. That feeling you're feeling? It's the painful beginning of REALLY waking up to the fact that you've been had.

Now kindly stop addressing me and insulting those who agree with me. There are plenty of your fellow Satanic Pedophile Fantasy League True Believer fucknutz still on this board that you can go off into a corner and play with.

J.

Jerky:

The kind of monsters who actually do molest, rape and murder children do NOT go around telegraphing their intentions by being weird about it, collecing art that might seem odd to the layman, being in weird-ass rock bands or performance art troups or even groups who practice actual ceremonial magic.

Incidentally - I wasn't addressing you, I was addressing a cheerleader. But whatever.
Re: your quote above - how do you know this? Can you point me to the source of this 'definitive truth', please. I'm guessing it's in your head.

[maco144]

Really good planning by the intelligence agencies to set up this PSYOP by having the counties around DC be the highest in missing kids. And to have all these businesses and organizations use pedophilia symbolism. And to have a long history of occult rape and pedophilia in DC. And to have their media partners do 0 investigating and shut down any active investigation. CANT YOU CONNECT THE DOTS - ITS A PSYOP!!!!

[coffin_dodger]

Jerky:

Now kindly stop addressing me and insulting those who agree with me. There are plenty of your fellow Satanic Pedophile Fantasy League True Believer fucknutz still on this board that you can go off into a corner and play with.

This victim mentality is really starting to wear thin. I shall continue to address you when make statements that are presented as fact when they are not; they are simply what you believe. Also, the name calling just doesn't work any more, mate. It's boring. Pointless.
Linking any inquiry into ruling power pedophilia/sacrifice with all the nasty isms was a masterstroke of the System.

[Jerky]

Just another member of the Clinton network that happens to do a lot of charity work with young kids. What's that, the pedo symbol as the logo? Best to ignore and not dig!

No, see how it works is, FIRST you dig, and THEN you present your findings.

For all you know, this whole charity might be made up just to frame another Clinton backer (the Radcliff guy). Not saying they are, but they very well could be.

There is only one instance of that logo online that I could find, and it's on a super-simple page that looks kind of suspect to me. I certainly wouldn't put such a thing past the autistic creeps who are pushing this Pizzagate thing like it's an Enhanced Reality Videogame of some sort. They certainly know that people like YOU aren't going to dig beyond that initial Chan board image. They're counting on you to add it to the heap of disinfo that's already clogging your brain and giving you psychic constipation.

But even if they're a real org, and even if that's their actual logo, that STILL doesn't prove anything.

Has anyone working for them been charged with a crime against children? What is their reputation among other refugee relief orgs? They appear to be Greek. Does that symbol mean the same thing in that culture? It is, after all, just a triangle with a twist - a pretty basic shape. There are only so many basic shapes. Circle, Square, Triangle, and variations. There have been other instances of companies innocently adopting logos that feature shapes allegedly linked to pedophile groups (including, I believe, an ice cream company).

Point is, this is STILL not evidence of anything. It certainly isn't grounds to go around hurling accusations of Satanic pedophilia.

J.

[maco144]

Good on top democratic donor Terry Bean to get caught fucking little boys to play a roll in this PSYOP.

[Jerky]

Victim mentality wearing thin? Wow... you've bought into the alt.right worldview hook line and sinker, haven't you.

Listen "mate", I've provided a lot more evidence and rational analysis supporting MY take on Pizzagate than YOU have for its reality. Besides which a simple examination of the activity relating to that hashtag on Twitter is more than enough evidence for THAT claim of mine. If you are incapable of seeing it, that's not MY problem.

And finally, I am not your dancing monkey. The next time you feel like ordering me around and telling me what to do, kindly write out your comment on a piece of paper, roll it up, and stick it up your ass, right next to where your head is so stubbornly lodged.

Most sincerely;
yer old pal Jerky

Jerky:

Now kindly stop addressing me and insulting those who agree with me. There are plenty of your fellow Satanic Pedophile Fantasy League True Believer fucknutz still on this board that you can go off into a corner and play with.

This victim mentality is really starting to wear thin. I shall continue to address you when make statements that are presented as fact when they are not; they are simply what you believe. Also, the name calling just doesn't work any more, mate. It's boring. Pointless.
Linking any inquiry into ruling power pedophilia/sacrifice with all the nasty isms was a masterstroke of the System.

[tapitsbo]

Jerky is exactly correct that not a ton has been PROVED per se (leaving the many convictions of related parties for a moment)

all the more reason for investigation and discussion.

discussion of Pizzagate is getting shut down and targeted/disrupted much more intensely than 9/11 discussion was. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, people!

Oh, and webarchive is showing the pro-child sexual abuse symbols that were taken down from restaurant webpages, etc.

[Jerky]

Wow, you fucking fascists really have no shame, do you?

I'll see your Democratic fund-raiser and gay activist against whom accusations that he had regular old non-Satanic sexual relations with a 15 year old (an age at which a great many individuals have been "charged as adults" in American law courts) were dropped when the alleged victim refused to testify, and raise you this entire ARMY of right-wing conservative movementarian deplorables (pay special attention to the final entry, as it is hot hot HAWT to someone of your particular fetishistic obsessions):

Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd was arrested on suspicion of soliciting sex with an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.

Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich of Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania pled no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo of Floyd County, Kentucky was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.

Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins of Asbury Park, New Jersey pled guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.

Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker of Nashua, New Hampshire is a convicted child molester.

Republican Mayor Philip Giordano of Waterbury, Connecticut is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8 and 10-year old girls.

Republican Mayor John Gosek of Oswego, New York was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.

Republican County Commissioner David Swartz of Richland County, Ohio pled guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.

Republican Speaker of the Puerto Rico House of Representatives Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.

Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain of Monroe County, Pennsylvania was charged with molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.

Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth of Kannapolis, N.C., is a convicted child rapist in Florida.

Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader of Witchita, Kansas pled guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.

Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency of Camden, New Jersey pled guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge of Soputhbay, California was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.

Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond of South Carolina had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.

Republican pastor Mike Hintz of Des Moines, Iowa, who George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.

Republican legislator Peter Dibble of New London, Connecticut pled no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer of Arizona was charged with molesting his 9-year old step daughter after including her in an anti-Gore television commercial.

Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. and Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence both of Washington, D.C. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens of Columbus, Ohio was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.

Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio of Burke, Virginia was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.

Republican activist Mark A. Grethen of Colorado Springs. Colorado was convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

Republican activist Randal David Ankeney of El Paso County, Arizona pled guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.

Republican Congressman Dan Crane of Illinois had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.

Republican activist and Christian Coalition and South Carolina Republican leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.

Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline of Orange County, California was placed under house arrest for child molestation and possession of child pornography.

Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman of Maryland was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

Republican Committee Chairman and attorney Jeffrey Patti of Sparta, New Jersey was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

Republican activist Marty Glickman of Florida (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD. It was Glickman, interestingly enough, that claimed Bill Clinton came from a low rent state and had torn down all of the standards for the highest office in the land.

Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks of Quartz Hill, California was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.

Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway who had relocated to Maine from Huntsville, Alabama after having been accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.

Republican preacher Stephen White of West Chester, Pennsylvania, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

Republican talk show host Jon Matthews of Houston, Texas pled guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.

Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling of Anderson, Indiana was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

Republican Party leader Paul Ingram of Thurston County, Washington pled guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

Republican election board official Kevin Coan of St. Louis, Missouri was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.

Republican politician Andrew Buhr, also of St. Louis, was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.

Republican politician Keith Westmoreland of Kingsport, Tennessee was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).

Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt of Pensacola, Florida was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.

Republican County Councilman Keola Childs of Hawaii County, Hawaii pled guilty to molesting a male child.

Republican activist John Butler of Cass County, Illinois was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.

Republican candidate Richard Gardner of Clark County, Nevada admitted to molesting his two daughters.

Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner of Lancaster, Pennsylvania was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.

Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter of Boothbay, Maine pled guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.

Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. of Wrightsville Borough, Delaware pled no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.

Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.

Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall of Virginia was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.

Republican city councilman Mark Harris of West Bend, Wisconsin, who has been described as a “good military man” and “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.

Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.

Republican director of the “Young Republican Federation” Nicholas Elizondo of Bakersfield, California molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.

Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp, Russell Harding, pled guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.

Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen, Sr. of Kalispell, Montana, was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.

Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into providing information about the anti-American insurgency.

Pretty great, eh? And that's not even a complete list!

But do go on scrying the logos of every donut shop in DC. I'm sure you'll stumble across evidence of a vast Democratic Satanic pedo-underground REAL SOON.

J.

Good on top democratic donor Terry Bean to get caught fucking little boys to play a roll in this PSYOP.

[guruilla]

Jerky's function at this site is well-poisoning and time-wasting, pure & simple. Anyone who still believes he has a sincere interest in getting to the truth after all this time either isn't paying attention or has a shared agenda.

See, now this thread is finally starting to look like how I remember RI to be. Taking a 'conspiracy subject' and turning it inside-out. Making a thoughtful effort to get at what is really going on. Not chasing rabbits, but connecting the very real dots that no one wants to see. Jerky and Heaven Swan, your posts are greatly appreciated.

Seriously?

Totally irrelevant ideological swanning in defense of Hillary (huh? yeah, really) plus bile-spewing trolling from someone who is so heavily compromised by their posts (here & elsewhere) as to be bordering on complicity with the systems of abuse?

That the significance of Pizzagate is still in question at a board of this sort is mind-boggling in and of itself. Sure, a lot of the evidence is circumstantial and there isn't yet any proof of children being victimized (unless you consider sick jokes victimization, which I would); but that's irrelevant in terms of whether what evidence there is so far is worth examining with an eye to investigating further. Obviously it is, so anyone who is trying to shut down the discussion here with ridicule, silly complaints about "witch hunts," or ideological claptrap is only exposing their own panic response. If they don't like seeing people taking it seriously then hey, just don't look; go to another thread where neoliberal whining about free expression and right-wing conspiracies is the thing; God knows there are plenty of them. Jerky's comments are not "discussion" or even argumentation; they are just nasty baiting. (Why I stopped letting them through years ago.) Ask yourself why he cares so much if people want to look into this, and why he is trying so hard to derail any discussion? If he or anyone else really believes THERE IS NOTHING TO SEE HERE, then why are they still here, trying to convince other people to stop looking? Hello??

Do people like Heaven Swan honestly, truly, believe that the only reason Pizzagate is being propagated or taken seriously is because of some right-wing agenda? Maybe. If so they are deluded as only ideological convictions can delude. I have no ideological stake in this game whatsoever and I doubt the majority of the autists and channers do, either. I know there are people at RI who sincerely question the evidence around Pizzagate (I guess dada is one of them, Jerky is not), and while I'm baffled by that and don't actually understand it, and although I haven't heard any solid arguments for why they do (besides "Its a psy-op," which as a hypothesis has some merit, and at least is interesting to consider, but which requires easily as much supporting evidence as the hypothesis that Pizzagate is exactly what it seems to be), I've nothing against sincere questioning and it's helpful to know that something so starkly obvious to many of us is still a little obscure to others. To those people I can only say, go back and look at the evidence again, and again, and again. Spend some time at https://voat.co/v/pizzagate even just looking at the thread titles; ask yourself why reddit shut down the subgroup when they still allow pedochat? Ask yourself why wikipedia has already decided that Pizzagate has been debunked? Think about what it might look like if and when the so-called "pedophocracy" began to come out of the closet and/or got so cocky and contemptuous of ordinary social norms that they didn't care if their behaviors were becoming observable to the plebs. Ask yourself if those sorts of people wouldn't get a thrill out of being brazen about it? Then think about how closely Pizzagate matches those scenarios. This doesn't prove any of it; but it does give a better context for it that what's generally being applied.

[Wombaticus Rex]

And finally, I am not your dancing monkey. The next time you feel like ordering me around and telling me what to do, kindly write out your comment on a piece of paper, roll it up, and stick it up your ass, right next to where your head is so stubbornly lodged.

Less of this, please. You are literally addressing a monkey you just gave dance instructions to.

You've made your FEELINGS on THIS ISSUE quite ABUNDANTLY CLEAR in the past few pages, surely that horse stopped breathing by now?

[Jerky]

Hey Wombat. Look straight up. Guru just accused me of being a shill.

That's against the rules, is it not?

Not that I'm telling you what to do, but doesn't that merit a warning more than me re-stating my position in a thread where everybody is re-stating their position constantly, over and over again?

I mean, I know you don't much care for the cut of my jib, but at least make an effort to PRETEND to be somewhat impartial.

J.

And finally, I am not your dancing monkey. The next time you feel like ordering me around and telling me what to do, kindly write out your comment on a piece of paper, roll it up, and stick it up your ass, right next to where your head is so stubbornly lodged.

Less of this, please. You are literally addressing a monkey you just gave dance instructions to.

You've made your FEELINGS on THIS ISSUE quite ABUNDANTLY CLEAR in the past few pages, surely that horse stopped breathing by now?

[norton ash]

I'm keeping the whole affair at arm's length, and I appreciate reading the opposing arguments. I hope that extremes and ad hominems can be avoided. It's like trying to analyze the election itself-- double-binds, misinformation, theory overload, all media now further degraded and suspect ... I trust so little anymore. Every path is strewn with agenda, mischief and red herring. And I'll keep reading.

[Wombaticus Rex]

Badjacketing people and playing "HE'S THE AGENT" is definitely against the rules, but I can't read you being called a "cheerleader" as that kind of a problem, especially when you've been so polite and generous to those who disagree with you so far.

Objectivity being of course a myth, I am personally skeptical of a majority of the PizzaGate material but still watching because the nexus of volunteer research is turning over so many stones. I don't think they'd have the context to understand what they saw once they really did uncover a ring in DC.

It's also important to remember that a healthy portion of that "nexus of volunteer research" are politically motivated. I don't think denying that is remotely tenable. I've had conversations with people doing PizzaGate work who told me frankly they didn't care about the veracity of anything they're relaying and amplifying -- the point is to keep kicking the Clinton machine while it is down.

As ever, though, we're in a much bigger fishbowl than an easy binaries can encompass. Podesta is worth studying, period. Alefantis is a curious character with still more curious friends, and digging through children's charities is a time-honored path to discovering pedophile networks. That said, I've spent most of this thread with my head in my hands - standards could perhaps be higher!

Epitaph for a species, though. I don't expect to see that solved here anytime soon.

[Jerky]

You accuse me of bad faith dealing, Guru, but I think it's YOU who is compromised here. After all, weren't you one of the people pushing hardest to promote that Hampstead bullshit hysteria?

If you had even a single shred of decency, you would have retired your blog and ID as soon as it became clear that your dangerous little Fantasy League Satanic Pedophile Cannibal Club had dissolved into thin air like the psychopathic fart in the wind that it so clearly was.

And again, there is most definitely LOT more evidence and cause to believe that PizzaGate is a massive Psy-Op perpetrated by a clearly Fascistic hidden hand and perpetuated by an army of True Believer Right Wing Useful Idiots, other socio-politically motivated hacks, the Easily Confused, and the Psychologically Impaired (that last one being YOUR cohort, Guru) than there is that there is a huge network of Satanic pedophile Democrats in Washington.

But hey, just or shits and giggles, post what YOU think is the most convincing evidence that you've come across in your "investigations" so far. Could it maybe be the fact that people whom the children claimed had tattoos refuse to strip naked for you and prove -

Oops! wait... that was the best evidence for your PREVIOUS bullshit Satanic Pedophile Cannibal Augmented Reality Game. Never mind.

J.