What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

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Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:28 pm

Cordelia » Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:13 pm wrote:A reasonable question:

Was race a factor in the calm arrest at Comet Ping Pong?



Yeah, that was the first thing that struck me: He's very lucky he isn't black.

And if he's not a patsy or even a spook (he looks remarkably unworried), then he is a very convenient and welcome genuine pretext.

I am increasingly convinced that this whole thing is either a very crafty scam or a very rushed and desperate one, whether planned from scratch or merely taken advantage of after the fact. It ties in perfectly with the whole "fake news" thing, hammered through unisono in the mass media. Gleichschaltung.

The weirdest single thing about "Pizzagate" and "Fake News" is that they coincide so strikingly with the barefaced and (so far) entirely evidence-free assertion that "Putin hacked the election". It looks like a deliberate taunt, as if they're daring people to notice they're taking the piss.
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Postby Agent Orange Cooper » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:49 pm

Arrington de Dionyso chimes in:

https://medium.com/@arringtond/how-i-be ... .oamfh7bb7

How I became a target of the alt-right
What it’s like to be targeted by Neo-Nazis and supporters of Donald Trump online — and what I learned from it.

My name is Arrington de Dionyso. This month, I became the target of death threats and online harassment from alt-right members and conspiracy theorist supporters of Donald Trump, thanks to my connection to what has become known as #PizzaGate.

Not that anyone ever sets out to become the target of coordinated online attacks, but to say I was not expecting or prepared for it would be an understatement. I am an artist — a painter and a musician — and while the fight for social justice is important to me, I never thought my art would land me at the center of a situation so closely tied to politics, fake news, and violence.

But it did. In 2010, I painted a mural on the walls of Comet Ping Pong, in Washington, DC. The mural was only up for a year before it was painted over in 2011, but in late October of this year, my artwork became one of the “clues” that online conspiracy theorists cited on Twitter, 4Chan, Reddit, and across the web as “proof” that Hillary Clinton and high ranking members of her campaign were running a sex trafficking ring from the (non-existent) basement of the pizza and game shop.

I’m sure this sounds ridiculous — and hilarious — but it isn’t. It’s terrifying, and it has taken over my life and begun to affect my livelihood as an artist. It has gone beyond the far, dusty corners of the web, where only the internet’s craziest uncles live. Alex Jones has referenced the conspiracy theory to his millions of followers and a member of Donald Trump’s own transition team (and son of his new National Security Advisor) spread the fake news online.

I’m sure this sounds ridiculous — and hilarious — but it isn’t. It’s terrifying, and it has taken over my life and begun to affect my livelihood as an artist.

In the past few weeks, several videos have been created and uploaded to YouTube, with the intent of targeting me and spreading vicious lies claiming I’m a part of this fictitious satanic sex cabal. At least one of the videos was threatening enough that it was taken down completely by YouTube, but the others are still up. These faceless internet trolls have tracked down information about my family, including the livelihood of both of my parents, and have dug up old photos of my friends from nearly a decade ago, using them to back up their “theories.” Everyone in my life has become a target of their blind hatred.

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I know that the goal of the alt-right and their allies is to silence any dissenting opinions, like mine. I know they want me to respond by going into hiding, by taking down my art from the internet — and possibly by discontinuing making art altogether.

I’m not going to do that.

I’m not going to let them win.

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My work celebrates the joy of being human, the incredibly magical gift of being alive. In my music, my goal is to create safe environments where people can explore new ways of organizing expressive sound. In my visual artwork, I draw upon dreams and mythology to depict imaginary worlds populated by tigers, serpents, birds and other animals.

I believe that all humans have an obligation to take care of each other and support each other’s development and growth so that we can leave a better world for our children. I stand against hate crimes, abuse of power, racism, sexism, homophobia and transphobia. Nothing that the alt-right, Donald Trump, or his supporters say or do will stop me from believing in the rights of all people — nor will it stop me in fighting for them through my work.

Now is the time when it is more crucial than ever that people stand up and have their voices heard. We cannot allow them to intimidate us into silence.

I will not be silent.

I hope you will join me.


And a comment on the article which made me laugh:

Why do none of the males in your artwork have dicks? Seriously, the lengths you went to in order to avoid drawing THE HOLY DONG OF DUDES is ridiculous. Me and the women I’ve been sharing this with can’t help but laugh at the absurd animal heads and other silliness you inserted into your art to avoid drawing one. single. penis.

There is censorship from above and censorship from within, and you seem to be suffering both kinds.
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:47 pm

Some financial and geopolitical context to all this madness, from William Engdahl, today. It makes pretty disturbing reading, especially in the light of the news from Brazil.

It’s Beginning to Smell a Lot Like Totalitarianism, and I Don’t Mean Russia

By F. William Engdahl – New Eastern Outlook – 13.12.2016

https://alethonews.wordpress.com/2016/1 ... an-russia/
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Postby guruilla » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:27 pm

Re: the above link, I'd heard about the Pope's speech about coprophagia, obviously, but not bothered to read the whole thing till now. Seems pretty telling.

And the communications media have their temptations. They can be tempted by calumny, and therefore used to slander, to sully people, especially in the world of politics. They can be used as a means of defamation: every person has the right to a good reputation, but perhaps in their previous life, or ten years ago, they had a problem with justice, or a problem in their family life, and bringing this to light is serious and harmful; it can annul a person. In slander we tell a lie about a person; in defamation, we leak a document, as we say in Argentina, “Se hace un carpetazo” – and we uncover something that is true, but already in the past, and which has already been paid for with a jail sentence, with a fine, or whatever. There is no right to this. This is a sin and it is harmful.

Every person has a right to a good reputation, huh. Sort of nullifies all meaning of good, doesn't it. Does this papal decree extend to Judas I wonder? I guess what His Excellency means is every person in a position of authority.

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Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:04 pm

Well, you can put anything in the most sinister light possible, but I'm not really disturbed by what Pope Frankie said there. He condemned disinformation, defamation, cruel hypocritical fingerwagging, whispering campaigns, and (in short) a steady diet of crap. All of which I condemn myself, fwiw. It's the media's stock in trade. I took it that he was warning against self-righteousness and prurience and bullying. I certainly don't think he was suggesting that current high crimes should simply be ignored, or that the rich should be allowed to do whatever the hell they like. He was reminding us that we are all sinners, i.e. mortals, and that it should therefore be nobody's life's purpose either to eat the shit served up to us or to serve shit up for others to eat.

What I found much more disturbing in Engdahl's article was his summary of the increasingly noticeable moves, worldwide, to abolish cash. Cui bono? The answer's obvious. It goes hand-in-hand with increasingly noticeable moves to abolish the poor, and not by making them richer, but by making them eat shit and die. See the Brazil thread. The brutality and sheer blatancy of it is just hair-raising.

There is a war on.
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Postby guruilla » Wed Dec 14, 2016 1:51 am

There's always been a war on & it's always been a "religious" war; if money has become the dope of the masses, what's it mean to be making it less and less "material," more and more of the clouds?

Bit confused by your reframing of Pope's words. I suspect a Mac-ism. Do you really think he meant them the way you're spinning interpreting them?

You know the Pope only sells the best dope, right? His word is Law coz he has the power to loosen and bind all things on heaven & earth. He doesn't ever speak without referring to the Heavenly Plan.
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Postby divideandconquer » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:06 am

guruilla » Wed Dec 14, 2016 1:51 am wrote:There's always been a war on & it's always been a "religious" war; if money has become the dope of the masses, what's it mean to be making it less and less "material," more and more of the clouds?

Bit confused by your reframing of Pope's words. I suspect a Mac-ism. Do you really think he meant them the way you're spinning interpreting them?

You know the Pope only sells the best dope, right? His word is Law coz he has the power to loosen and bind all things on heaven & earth. He doesn't ever speak without referring to the Heavenly Plan.


As I've said before, I believe the Catholic Church will be used as the vessel of the new world religion, a counterfeit Christianity, which is needed to capture the souls of this new global order and Pope Francis, the recruiter/PR man, is setting the stage. His world-affirming view is underpinned by a docetistic cosmological attitude.

Whatever you think of the historical Catholic religion or Church, order out of chaos seems to be the blueprint here. I think the subtle breaking down, watering down of the Catholic religion has been going on for decades, but the nail in its coffin occurred when the media was given the green light to expose pedophilia in the Catholic Church (the only powerful institution exposed in the mainstream to the point where pedophilia and Catholic Church are practically synonymous), which resulted in the chaos they needed to resurrect a new religion.

I've read the John Jay report on the pedophilia scandal and when you break it down, it turns out that a little over 1% of priests are actual pedophiles, with maybe 5-10% of the priests being pederasts...that is, priests engaged in sexual relationships with male teenagers over the age of 14, some consensual, some not. I'm certainly not defending the behavior of these priests, especially the behavior of those who covered it up, but the numbers do not reflect the "reality" created by the media.

In other words, the media has made it seem as if the majority of all priests are pedophiles when that is just not true. Also, this pedophile/pederast problem exploded in the late 1960s and 1970s, after Vatican II when the bar was lowered for entrance into the priesthood. There are cases where entire rectories were transformed into brothels starting in the late 60s continuing into the 1970s. Homosexual priests are not the issue. Some of the greatest and most devout priests are/have been homosexual, however, the temptation is much higher for homosexual men just because of the all male world they live in and the escape provided from a hostile world that doesn't accept homosexuals for who they are. Also, heterosexual pederasts (think Elvis bringing home his child bride) are practically sanctioned by the public whereas homosexual pederasts are NOT. See Bella Dodd's testimony to the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee in 1952 and 1953.

So now we have counterfeit Pope Francis and prosperity "Christian"--an oxymoron if there ever was one--President-elect Trump who subscribes to prosperity theology, which is the religious basis of corporate capitalism, promoting the sacrament of consumption and unsustainable development for the material benefit of the elite, the super rich. In this deluded form of "Christianity", the wealthy and powerful become god, while the poor, who must be nonbelievers, devils, or at the very least, the worst kind of sinners, because they do not prosper, therefore aren't worthy of God's blessing must also not be worthy of any human rights at all. Right now, this dynamic is playing out before our very eyes, just waiting to be anointed, consecrated, transformed into global doctrine. What these foolish people do not realize is that they will fall into the category that is denied the prosperity, human rights, quality of life, that they so desperately believe they deserve.
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Postby guruilla » Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:58 pm

divideandconquer » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:06 am wrote:I've read the John Jay report on the pedophilia scandal and when you break it down, it turns out that a little over 1% of priests are actual pedophiles, with maybe 5-10% of the priests being pederasts...that is, priests engaged in sexual relationships with male teenagers over the age of 14, some consensual, some not. I'm certainly not defending the behavior of these priests, especially the behavior of those who covered it up, but the numbers do not reflect the "reality" created by the media.

In other words, the media has made it seem as if the majority of all priests are pedophiles when that is just not true.

You're going to have to cite a lot more sources to make a claim of this kind. A "cover-up" that entails concealing non-pedophilia in positions of power, hmmm. Sorry, not buying it.

It's certainly true that the Catholic priest-as-pedophile meme blew far & wide and spread its seeds everywhere. But if you want to argue that this was a "psyop," I'm going to need more of the how, when, who and why than you've provided here.

The notion that only 1% of parents are pedophiles (committing child incest) would be wildly understated. Do you honestly believe that priests are less guilty than parents of abusing children under their power?
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Postby FourthBase » Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:30 pm

Hello friends, did I miss anything during my involuntary stay-cation?

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Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:32 pm

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Postby guruilla » Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:39 pm

FourthBase » Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:30 pm wrote:Hello friends, did I miss anything during my involuntary stay-cation?

:jumping:

Couple of bannings, a couple of welcome old voice returns. 40 pages of this thread?

Relieved to see you back here, FB!
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Postby Harvey » Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:15 pm

Been hoping for weeks that you were okay... Good to hear that you are.
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Postby norton ash » Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:23 pm

Good to see you, 4b.
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Postby guruilla » Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:37 pm

Apparently John "Where's My Handkerchief?" Podesta started Tweeting again two days ago. Very apparently, he has been met with a Twitter-shitstorm of public response:

https://twitter.com/johnpodesta/status/ ... 7140609024

Also just saw this, McD's Christmas advertising scheme (just hope I don't get banned for posting):

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/food/ ... l-facebook

Not going to comment on this; will leave it to braver souls. :moresarcasm
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