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Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:51 am

To you, Mr. Trump, I say this: When this next terrorist attack takes place, it is YOU who will be charged by the American people with a gross dereliction of duty. It was YOUR job to pay attention, to protect the country. But you were too busy tweeting and defending Putin and appointing cabinet members to dismantle the government. You didn't have time for the daily national security briefing. Don't think we're going to let you use a modern-day burning of the Reichstag as your excuse to eliminate our civil liberties and our democracy.





Donald Trump Is Gonna Get Us Killed
by Michael Moore
A week has gone by since Donald Trump admitted he's only been to "two or three" of his daily presidential national security briefings. There have been 36 of them since the day he secured enough electoral college votes to be appointed president next Monday when the Electoral College meets.
Most would agree the #1 job of the leader of any country is to keep its people safe. There is no more important meeting every day for the President than the one where he learns what the day's potential threats are to the country. That Trump would find it too cumbersome or too annoying to have to sit through 20 minutes of listening to his top intelligence people tell him who's trying to kill us today, simply boggles the mind.
Of course, our minds have been so boggled so many times in the past year by this foolish man no one seems that surprised or concerned. He can get up at 5 in the morning and send angry, childish tweets about how he's being portrayed on SNL ("Not funny! Unwatchable!"), or belittling the local elected union leader in Indiana, but he doesn't have time to hear about the threats to our national security.
So, my fellow Americans, when the next terrorist attack happens -- and it will happen, we all know that -- and after the tragedy is over, amidst the death and destruction that might have been prevented, you will see Donald Trump acting quickly to blame everyone but himself. He will suspend constitutional rights. He will round up anyone he deems a threat. He will declare war, and his Republican Congress will back him.
And no one will remember that he wasn't paying attention to the growing threat. Wasn't attending the daily national security briefings. Was playing golf instead or meeting with celebrities or staying up til 3am tweeting about how unfair CNN is. He said he didn't need to be briefed. "You know, I think I'm smart. I don't need to hear the same thing over and over each day for eight years." That's what he told Fox News on December 11th when asked why he wasn't attending the security briefings. Don't forget that date and his hubris as we bury the dead next year.
We had a president like him before. He, too, lost the popular vote, a majority of Americans saying they didn't want him in the Oval Office. But his governor/brother and his ex-CIA chief/dad's appointees to the Supreme Court put an end to that, and he was installed as Commander-in-Chief. On August 6, 2001, he was on a month-long vacation at his ranch in Texas. That morning, the White House Counsel handed him his daily national security briefing. He glanced at it, set it aside and then went fishing for the rest of the day. Below is the photo of that moment which I showed the world in "Fahrenheit 9/11". The headline on the security briefing reads: BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO STRIKE INSIDE U.S. On the top page it tells how bin Laden will do this: with planes. George W. Bush didn't leave the ranch to go back to work for the next four weeks. In the fifth week, bin Laden attacked the US with planes on September 11th.
It's one thing to have a president who was asleep at the wheel. But, my friends, it's a whole other thing to now have a president-elect who REFUSES TO EVEN GET BEHIND THE WHEEL! This utter neglect of duty, a daily snub at the people who work to protect us, the first Commander-in-Chief to literally be AWOL and announcing proudly he isn't going to change -- this, I assure you, is going to get a lot of innocent people killed.
To you, Mr. Trump, I say this: When this next terrorist attack takes place, it is YOU who will be charged by the American people with a gross dereliction of duty. It was YOUR job to pay attention, to protect the country. But you were too busy tweeting and defending Putin and appointing cabinet members to dismantle the government. You didn't have time for the daily national security briefing. Don't think we're going to let you use a modern-day burning of the Reichstag as your excuse to eliminate our civil liberties and our democracy.
We will remember that while the plot to kill Americans was being hatched, your time was consumed by whom you saw as the real threat to America: Alec Baldwin in a wig.


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Re: Donald Trump Is Gonna Get Us Killed

Postby Rory » Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:54 am

Life in general, (and in Moore's case, a myocardial infarction) are going to get you killed.
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Re: Donald Trump Is Gonna Get Us Killed......LIHOP

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:04 pm

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Re: Donald Trump Is Gonna Get Us Killed

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Dec 14, 2016 1:23 pm

Rory » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:54 am wrote:Life in general, (and in Moore's case, a myocardial infarction) are going to get you killed.



Rory I know that you like to be more of a commentator here than starting conversations.....correct me if am wrong 13 OPs in 8 years? So that leaves me at a deficit as to be able to disagree with every OP you post, like you do with mine. It would be lovely to return the favor and flood your OPs with disagreements. It would be nice to at least have a level playing field in that regard. But alas I am short changed. :cry: If only you would humor me with stuff that you find interesting so I could return the favor.
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Re: Donald Trump Is Gonna Get Us Killed......LIHOP

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:03 pm

I disagree. I'm going with MIHOP. The Shock Doctrine is coming home in a HUUUGE way.
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Re: Donald Trump Is Gonna Get Us Killed......LIHOP

Postby MacCruiskeen » Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:48 pm

Who wrote this? Keith Olbermann? The sheer unctuousness of it is laughable. It's made entirely out of lard.

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The forelock-tugging pomposity, the silly solemnity, the funereal black border, the oldskool flag, the form of address ("Esteemed"!), the font, the centred-text format, the general all-round up-its-own-arseness of the damn thing...

They have got to be taking the piss. (Surely?)
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Re: Donald Trump Is Gonna Get Us Killed......LIHOP

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:54 pm

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Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:00 pm

stillrobertpaulsen » Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:03 pm wrote:I disagree. I'm going with MIHOP. The Shock Doctrine is coming home in a HUUUGE way.



oh OK MIHOP is fine by me :)
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:06 pm

That "list of authors" - what an all-star line-up. Has anyone ever heard of any of them?

I don't buy it. That list is the #Fake News that Hillary warned us all against. None of those people exist. Keith wrote it. The Esteemed Keith Olbermann, probably the greatest parodist of our age.

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Postby JackRiddler » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:11 pm

MacCruiskeen » Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:48 pm wrote:The forelock-tugging pomposity, the silly solemnity, the funereal black border, the oldskool flag, the form of address ("Esteemed"!), the font, the centred-text format, the general all-round up-its-own-arseness of the damn thing...

They have got to be taking the piss. (Surely?)


Yes, but what you are showing is that there is a reason why you would never even conceive of wanting to be an elector, and it is probably related to taste, sense of humor, ability to understand irony, etc.

This is pretty much exactly the right approach to Unctuous-Americans. Not that it will swing the 37 needed out of the Trump camp to push him under 270 (which even if this highly unlikely thing happened would most likely throw it to a House vote, and yield Pence). But this thing is not bad strategically at all. As you've realized, it's not really about marketing to everyone, let alone you or me. Also, the names are real. :clown
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Postby freemason9 » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:16 pm

MacCruiskeen » Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:06 pm wrote:That "list of authors" - what an all-star line-up. Has anyone ever heard of any of them?

I don't buy it. That list is the #Fake News that Hillary warned us all against. None of those people exist. Keith wrote it. The Esteemed Keith Olbermann, probably the greatest parodist of our age.

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There's nothing wrong with Fake News, it's the modern way to spread information. We should embrace it fully and add to the traffic jam.
The real issue is that there is extremely low likelihood that the speculations of the untrained, on a topic almost pathologically riddled by dynamic considerations and feedback effects, will offer anything new.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:17 pm

wow that's a lot of people to track down but I'll do it..it's gonna take some time

Here's the first one


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Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:20 pm

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Postby JackRiddler » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:21 pm

I mean, in my 30-year experience with the left in this country, what do you think are the most common tropes? And not that this thing is from "the left," but it's indicative of the general stockholm-syndrome mentality of everyone to the left of, oh, Reagan perhaps. Hell, this goes back to, you know, nineteenth century liberals and social democrats, or enlightenment-era "deists." Everyone's gotta double down on the patriot tropes and the super-seriousness, or they're fucking traitors. (As we are seeing this year, the right-wing is much freer to just trash shit, laugh at the whole thing, take it like kayfabe.) And so:

- Quoting the declaration of independence. It's been the go-to all along. (Preamble, not "Indian savages" clause.)

- Quoting Eisenhower's last speech (m.i.c.).

- Invoking the veterans. It's almost never "Fuck Imperialism." It's always we love our troops, so bring them home. (Last time that was different was the 1960s.)

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Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:22 pm

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A prize-winning historian and Emmy Award nominee, Randall Balmer holds the John Phillips Chair in Religion at Dartmouth, the oldest endowed professorship at Dartmouth College. He earned the Ph.D. from Princeton University in 1985 and taught as Professor of American Religious History at Columbia University for twenty-seven years before becoming the Mandel Family Professor in the Arts & Sciences at Dartmouth College in 2012 and the Dartmouth Professor in the Arts & Sciences in 2014. He has been a visiting professor at Princeton, Yale, Northwestern, and Emory universities and in the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism. He was a visiting professor at Yale Divinity School from 2004 to 2008.

Dr. Balmer has published widely in both scholarly journals and in the popular press. His op-ed articles have appeared in newspapers across the country, including the Los Angeles Times, the Des Moines Register, the Philadelphia Inquirer, the Dallas Morning News, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, the Hartford Courant, the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, the Anchorage Daily News, and the New York Times. His work has also appeared in the New Republic, the New York Times Book Review, Christian Century, the Nation, the Chronicle of Higher Education, and Washington Post Book World. Dr. Balmer is regularly asked to comment on religion in American life, and he has appeared frequently on network television, on NPR, and on both the Colbert Report and the Daily Show, with Jon Stewart. He has been an expert witness in several First Amendment cases, including Snyder v. Phelps and Glassroth v. Moore, the so-called Alabama Ten Commandments case.

Dr. Balmer has published more than a dozen books, including Redeemer: The Life of Jimmy Carter, God in the White House: How Faith Shaped the Presidency from John F. Kennedy to George W. Bush, and The Making of Evangelicalism: From Revivalism to Politics and Beyond. His second book, Mine Eyes Have Seen the Glory: A Journey into the Evangelical Subculture in America, now in its fifth edition, was made into an award-winning, three-part documentary for PBS. Dr. Balmer wrote and hosted that series as well as a two-part series on creationism and a documentary on Billy Graham. He has lectured around the country in such venues as the Commonwealth Club of California and the Chautauqua Institution and, under the auspices of the State Department, in Austria and Lebanon.
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