What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

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Postby barracuda » Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:34 pm

tapitsbo » Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:22 pm wrote:I was talking about a different logo, barracuda, as I assume you know, of course.

Included in the pictures I included in my previous post.

Odd that you keep returning attention to the business logo - which of course wasn't the one to be have been scrubbed.


You are having a difficult time following our conversation. To recap:

- I know all about the "scrubbed" logo.
- I knew about it weeks ago. (I visit reddit, voat, and 4chan!)
- You showed it several times in the post I originally replied to.
- Did you think I didn't see the three pictures you posted?
- It's not a match with the FBI logo.
- The hearts and hands logo seems appropriate to a family-owned cafe/gallery.

I find this interaction with you strange as all of the Pizzagate stuff is strange, to be honest.


Regroup. It's you, not me. try and follow along, really.
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby tapitsbo » Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:37 pm

What you're saying doesn't "follow" what I was saying.

I'm not sure I'm too interested in "following along" with you though - seems like deflection over debunking, again.

I don't visit reddit, voat, or 4chan, funnily enough.

Has anything been debunked in those places? Or just deleted?
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby FourthBase » Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:48 pm

The Besta logo is definitely a fucking match.

Is anyone here actually disputing that???
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby tapitsbo » Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:51 pm

Yes that was disputed here many times, here. As was the ambiguity around Kline and really every single data point.

Nothing wrong with disputing per se, but there are patterns in what is disputed and what isn't disputed here, apparently.

Even if it wasn't disputed, what of the "scrubbing"?

What does the closing of ranks around these people mean, exactly?
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby Nordic » Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:19 pm

You might be confusing the Besta logo with the other one of the hearts.

The Besta logo is clearly the male pedophilia symbol.

One could argue it's some sort of graphic coincidence but what are the odds? Pretty fucking small.

"Gosh sorry but that logo I made for your pizza restaurant? I don't know how I could have accidentally done this but somehow I made it a dead ringer for a NAMBLA level pedophilia symbol. My bad!"
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby barracuda » Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:27 pm

tapitsbo » Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:37 pm wrote:What you're saying doesn't "follow" what I was saying.

I'm not sure I'm too interested in "following along" with you though - seems like deflection over debunking, again.


It's no wonder you got sucked into this shit-maze. Sorry, feel free to just ignore my commentary.
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby tapitsbo » Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:35 pm

The deflection around Pizzagate does feel like a shit-maze.

The original material is less puzzling than the reactions are frankly...

For all we know the FBI "pedo symbols" could be some kind of hoax themselves.

But the "scrubbing" from Besta and Terasol speaks to SOMETHING... these businesses could easily have been transparent about all this.
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby liminalOyster » Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:39 pm

FourthBase » Sun Dec 18, 2016 1:48 am wrote:The Besta logo is definitely a fucking match.

Is anyone here actually disputing that???


Yes.

On edit: that is to say this symbol is so common that any similarity is moot, I think. Same for the hand in heart. Google Images offers hundreds of examples of "matches" that are conceptually identical to that one.
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Postby OP ED » Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:28 pm

That is true. There are too many suspect logos. Perhaps because the root CP organizations weren't particularly imaginative in their olde coding system. This is why I basically ignore it.
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby tapitsbo » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:38 pm

It's insane that some in this thread are so concerned about the probable false flag "gunman" actor who didn't hurt anyone

so much more concerned than about everyone the clintons appear to personally have had murdered (like seth rich)

and let's remember since some took the (joke?) about "profiling" based on art seriously - just think of the art that generates ACTUAL controversy and the "art world" itself (boycotts, furious reams of outrage, etc.)

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i don't understand the energy this board is putting into covering for these scumbags given how merciless you all have been with many other powerful people
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby Burnt Hill » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:49 pm

Burnt Hill » Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:12 pm wrote:
tapitsbo » Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:57 pm wrote:Pizzagate and Islamic State - two topics that bring out some odd and vaguely threatening responses on this site.

(funny how Pizzagate and Epstein are connected via that girl in Alefantis' Instagram photos as well as through the Clintons)

Be well, thanks for the conversation.


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my own hypnagogic state?
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby Sweet Tooth » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:52 pm

I haven't agreed with much of what you've had to say about PizzaGate in this topic, but I have to say, this is an impressive contribution and a very intriguing take on the current state of Catholicism. Kudos!

XO

[quote="[url=http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?p=623416#p623416]divideandconquer » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:06 am[/url]"][quote="[url=http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?p=623406#p623406]guruilla » Wed Dec 14, 2016 1:51 am[/url]"]There's always been a war on & it's always been a "religious" war; if money has become the dope of the masses, what's it mean to be making it less and less "material," more and more of the clouds?

Bit confused by your reframing of Pope's words. I suspect a Mac-ism. Do you really think he meant them the way you're [s]spinning[/s] interpreting them?

You know the Pope only sells the best dope, right? His word is Law coz he has [url=http://biblehub.com/commentaries/matthew/16-19.htm]the power to loosen and bind all things on heaven & earth[/url]. He doesn't ever speak without referring to the Heavenly Plan.[/quote]

As I've said before, I believe the Catholic Church will be used as the vessel of the new world religion, a counterfeit Christianity, which is needed to capture the souls of this new global order and Pope Francis, the recruiter/PR man, is setting the stage. His world-affirming view is underpinned by a docetistic cosmological attitude.

Whatever you think of the historical Catholic religion or Church, order out of chaos seems to be the blueprint here. I think the subtle breaking down, watering down of the Catholic religion has been going on for decades, but the nail in its coffin occurred when the media was given the green light to expose pedophilia in the Catholic Church ([b]the only powerful institution exposed in the mainstream to the point where pedophilia and Catholic Church are practically synonymous[/b]), which resulted in the chaos they needed to [b]resurrect a new religion.[/b]

I've read the John Jay report on the pedophilia scandal and when you break it down, it turns out that a little over 1% of priests are actual pedophiles, with maybe 5-10% of the priests being pederasts...that is, priests engaged in sexual relationships with male teenagers over the age of 14, some consensual, some not. I'm certainly [b]not [/b]defending the behavior of these priests, especially the behavior of those who covered it up, but the numbers do not reflect the "reality" created by the media.

In other words, the media has made it seem as if the majority of all priests are pedophiles when that is just not true. Also, this pedophile/pederast problem exploded in the late 1960s and 1970s, after Vatican II when the bar was lowered for entrance into the priesthood. There are cases where entire rectories were transformed into brothels starting in the late 60s continuing into the 1970s. Homosexual priests are not the issue. Some of the greatest and most devout priests are/have been homosexual, however, the temptation is much higher for homosexual men just because of the all male world they live in and the escape provided from a hostile world that doesn't accept homosexuals for who they are. Also, heterosexual pederasts (think Elvis bringing home his child bride) are practically sanctioned by the public whereas homosexual pederasts are NOT. [url=http://www.archive.org/stream/investigationofc1953unit/investigationofc1953unit_djvu.txt][b][u][color=#0000BF]See Bella Dodd's testimony to the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee in 1952 and 1953[/color][/u][/b].[/url]

So now we have counterfeit Pope Francis and [b][i]prosperity "Christian"[/i][/b]--an oxymoron if there ever was one--President-elect Trump who subscribes to prosperity theology, which is the religious basis of corporate capitalism, promoting the sacrament of consumption and unsustainable development for the material benefit of the elite, the super rich. In this deluded form of "Christianity", the wealthy and powerful become god, while the poor, who must be nonbelievers, devils, or at the very least, the worst kind of sinners, because they do not prosper, therefore aren't worthy of God's blessing must also not be worthy of any human rights at all. Right now, this dynamic is playing out before our very eyes, just waiting to be anointed, consecrated, transformed into global doctrine. What these foolish people do not realize is that they will fall into the category that is denied the prosperity, human rights, quality of life, that they so desperately believe they deserve.[/quote]
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby Burnt Hill » Sun Dec 18, 2016 1:03 pm

tapitsbo » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:38 pm wrote:It's insane that some in this thread are so concerned about the probable false flag "gunman" actor who didn't hurt anyone

so much more concerned than about everyone the clintons appear to personally have had murdered (like seth rich)

and let's remember since some took the (joke?) about "profiling" based on art seriously - just think of the art that generates ACTUAL controversy and the "art world" itself (boycotts, furious reams of outrage, etc.)

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i don't understand the energy this board is putting into covering for these scumbags given how merciless you all have been with many other powerful people


I disagree with how you have framed things.
The concern is that innocent people will be hurt due to the atmosphere created by unsubstantiated accusations.
No one is defending actual evildoers.
And it is not really a Clinton thread, you will find plenty of concern for that topic elsewhere.
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby Sweet Tooth » Sun Dec 18, 2016 1:06 pm

Remember when the UN covered up Picasso's Guernica - his masterpiece of outrage over the first mass aerial bombardment in the history of warfare - from the conference room where Colin Powell lied the USA into its invasion of Iraq? Do you think they did that because art isn't important?

Art is important.

Hell, creating and experiencing art is probably the only reason for us to exist as a species on this failure of a planet.

IMO anyway.

XO

[quote="[url=http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?p=623605#p623605]Iamwhomiam » Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:03 pm[/url]"][img]http://www.losblogueros.net/hello/1980589/640/ashcroft1-2005.06.28-04.32.21.jpg[/img]

[img]http://atelier-rc.com/Atelier.RC/CaramelAshcroft.jpg[/img]

I'll be damned, I cannot locate an image of the curtained Statue of Justice. anyone? This will have to do, though truly out of context:

[img]http://www.uncoveror.com/burqa.jpg[/img]

[b][size=150]Washington statue cover-up has left little to imagination[/size]
Naked truth about our nation's capital[/b]

By Calvin Woodward
The Associated Press
Monday, March 04, 2002

WASHINGTON — Some were mortified, others tickled, when a bare-chested statue of George Washington sat on Capitol Hill long ago, one arm outstretched, the other raised.

People joked that he was lunging for his clothes, on display at the Patent Office several blocks away.

Like that man of stone, some people at the Justice Department think no nudes is good nudes.

So they drew blue drapes over two scantily clad statues in the department's Great Hall. Now, Attorney General John Ashcroft can speak there without risk of a breast showing behind him on TV or in photos.

That cover-up has not done much to change the flesh tone in Washington, however. This is a city of many exposed rear ends, bare breasts, what's-the-point fig leaves and even no fig leaves at all.

From barely wrapped bronze ladies by the Memorial Bridge to the revealing discus thrower outside the State Department in Foggy Bottom, north to writhing nudes on the National Cathedral and east to the starkly immodest fountain figures outside the Library of Congress, the capital is quite the tease.

Susan Lineberry of Hampton, Va., remembers strolling past a nude Washington statue with her son, then 5, some years ago.

“My son looked at it and looked at me and said, "I see his butt.'”

“I said, "Well, Kevin, that's art. Often the human body is used as art because the lines and curves are pretty.'”

“And he said, "I still see his butt.'”

There's more. Outside the White House Cabinet Room, paces from the Oval Office, there is full frontal male nudity in the painting “A Flathead Chief and His Family.”

In the august chamber of the Supreme Court, reflective justices look upon the figure of a topless woman holding a mirror in one hand and a rose in the other. A robe is wrapped around her waist.

She represents Truth.

Even the U.S. Capitol, where art tends toward the tame, has an eye-popper or two.

A woman in nothing but a gown dropped to her waist looks out languidly from a wall of the committee room where House members carve up the budget.

This painting is called Good Government.

At the Library of Congress, the sizzling scene did not escape Billy Collins, America's poet laureate, who has an office there.

He wrote praying that Father Time, on the great clock inside, would set down his scythe and hourglass and check out the “two bare-breasted female figures who have always been there, waiting adoringly right by his side.”

Mr. Collins took poetic license; one lady is merely provocatively clothed, the other is spilling out of her dress.

But the library is lined with the unveiled and thinly veiled.

“They almost look like showgirls,” observed Capitol curator Barbara Wolanin. She said a committee in the late 1800s debated whether to allow nudity in the library's art and decided to go for it.

“They wanted it to be very classical and of course the nude figure is an important part of classical art.”

The George Washington statue was moved to the Smithsonian in 1908 and can be seen now in its American history museum.

The museum says people objected to the partial nudity when the statue resided at Congress.

There was no such outcry over the 12-foot, 6-inch aluminum Great Hall statues at the Justice Department — public art the public rarely got to see.

Still, drapes that had been occasionally rented for $2,000 per use were bought outright for $8,000 and have been left hanging.

Now, at the Justice Department, the female Spirit of Justice and male Majesty of Law are under indefinite wraps, her arms still raised in exultation, his left hand raised in tribute to the authority of God, all in prim privacy.

“That a government official would do something like that, it seems partly comical and partly tragic,” Arthur C. Danto, art critic of The Nation magazine, said in an interview. “I think it means we've reached a new stage in prudery,” said Arthur C. Danto, art critic of The Nation magazine.

Justice officials are so sensitive about the matter they stopped talking about it. They also denied permission for The Associated Press to film or photograph the public art in the building.

Earlier, a spokesman said the curtains make a nice TV backdrop and were hung “for aesthetics.”

In high-traffic places like Congress, Wolanin said, officials realize that citizens are not visiting an art gallery and don't expect to come across graphic material.

“When you look at it as pure art, it shouldn't be covered up,” she said. “But you have to look at it in the context of how people are using it.”

To be sure, nudes elsewhere in the Justice building are still in your face. Majesty's one exposed breast is screened off, but at least 32 others are not.

Many figures in Washington art represent social virtues and vices.

Above an entrance, there are three men wearing barely a stitch and a woman whose gown leaves her chest half exposed. Ms. Prosperity is gazing over and down at an underdressed Mr. Opportunity.

The nudity in that panel raised eyebrows in 1933, so sculptor C. Paul Jennewein added fig leaves to the men in his design.

The Commission of Fine Arts said that was nice, but “the fig leaves are not quite large enough.”

[url]http://enquirer.com/editions/2002/03/04/loc_washington_statue.html[/url]

Oddly enough, Obama continued, even expanded the practice.[/quote]
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby tapitsbo » Sun Dec 18, 2016 1:11 pm

Nordic's posts raise the spectre of just how massive human trafficked/organized child abuse are.

What really makes people angry about Pizzagate is the way it makes certain players like the Clintons and their friends appear untouchable (recall Epstein's case.)

"Untouchable" because discussion about what these people appear to be involved with is extremely risky and barely tolerated. This holds true regardless of the FACTS of what is going on, which we don't know for the most part (although we do know about an awful lot of suspicious deaths.)

People are especially interested in Pizzagate for this reason, to say it's "not really" about these players is not really true.

These people are flamboyantly, openly involved in some "very spooky shit" as kool maudit put it earlier in the thread.

All sorts of people are no doubt involved in these sorts of crimes but very few are giving a public wink and nod to them.

What is the media blitz about Pizzagate (fake news and all the rest of that crap) other than a wink and a nod?

No doubt many here don't like my framing of course... :eeyaa

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Sweet Tooth, literally nobody here is calling for censorship of art. Are you even serious with that angle?

Although strident demands for censorship of art are taking place at a growing rate in our civilization, for decidedly political reasons of a different stripe.
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