Russian ambassador to Turkey shot and killed

[Plutonia]

so are you saying it is not Assange on the Hannity interview?

No, I don't believe it was. For many reasons, only one of which was that his halting, awkward cadence was wrong and he spoke twice as fast as normal. Also, content, as I said above.

Edit to add. If Fake Osama was useful to the Imperialist State, wait and see how useful Fake Assange will be.

[tapitsbo]

https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/810975610033975296

[Sounder]

Mac wrote...

For god's sake 82, please stop doing that. Harvey is not "mean, nor was he being "mean", nor was he "needling" anyone. This is a Discussion Board, and not all contributions to any discussion are equal. Post here and expect your posts to be questioned and criticised rationally.

Slad's posts and AD's have indeed been taking us precisely here, to the very edge of war with Russia - because they, like millions of others elsewhere, have been posting and re-posting torrents of dangerous warmongering propaganda they refused to even defend or explain. Just catapulting the propaganda, for months on end. Bullshit galore,without rhyme or reason. Twisted unreliable shite from the likes of the Daily Mail or the Daily Beast, unexplained, undefended, just splurged over the board because it's there. Don't pretend you haven't seen it, it's all over the board. Pointing this out and criticising it is not mean. It's necessary. Now more than ever.

82-28 wrote...

It's just information that she has come across.

Just information, geez where can the harm be in that?

And you see nothing and care about nothing, never reflect on anything, JUST a peace pony. Pathetic.

And thanks Harvey, I aspire to be as kind as you.

(That is kindness in substance, not merely the kindness in form that you 'practice' 82-28.)

[Harvey]

so are you saying it is not Assange on the Hannity interview?

No, I don't believe it was. For many reasons, only one of which was that his halting, awkward cadence was wrong and he spoke twice as fast as normal. Also, content, as I said above.

Edit to add. If Fake Osama was useful to the Imperialist State, wait and see how useful Fake Assange will be.

I don't agree. That was indeed Assange.

What SLAD appears to take away from the interview is validation of her subscription to CIA dis-info. She is evidence of a disaffected dynamic which elements of US intel community are trying to play for their own reasons. Reasons which unfortunately are not hers. The interview stresses the lack of any evidence of Russian collusion with Trump, but SLAD doesn't want to amplify the majority of the interview for her own reasons. SLAD is expressing the natural reaction of all right thinking folk to Trump and his blanket media exposure, the same exposure which is a large part of the reason Trump was elected.

CIA will play ball with Trump once SLAD and everyone else who falls for their bullshit hands them the leverage they currently require. The usual leverage doesn't seem to cut it with Trump precisely because he is so shameless. Shit, his entire strategy was confusionism, to promise everything to everybody. The one weapon he is immune to is precisely accusation. But the irony is that SLAD is hell bent on handing it to the CIA. Trump=Russia.

"SLAD" here is used a placeholder for the demographic who buy into the entirety of the Russian Election Interference meme. Until these voters compare what Hillary stood for with why they wanted Hillary, they will remain clueless.

[MacCruiskeen]

Whatever "Everipedia" is, this is what it tells us about the killer (damn quickly, too, with numerous photos and a gif of the guy ranting, plus the same text, presumably, in Turkish):

Mevlüt Mert Altıntaş

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Mevlüt Mert Altıntaş, 22, was a Turkish Muslim off-duty member of the riot unit of the Ankara police department. Turkey's interior minister Süleyman Soylu identified him as a member of the Ankara police department's riot unit who graduated from İzmir Rüştü Ünsal Police Academy in 2014. [18]
Personal Life

Mevlüt Mert Altıntaş was born in 1994 in the town of Söke in the western province of Aydın in Turkey. [19] He is a member of ISIS and has very strong ties to ISIS. [Well, membership would count as a very strong tie, yes.]

Assassination of Andrei Karlov

On December 19, 2016 he fired into the air before taking aim at Russian ambassador to Turkey, Andrei Karlov, fatally wounding him at an art gallery in Ankara. He started the attack right as the ambassador started a speech titled "Russia in the Eyes of Turkish Citizens". [1]  [3] 

After shooting Andrei Karlov nine times, he screamed "Allahu Akbar" during the attack and shouted: "You Russians destroyed Aleppo and Syria." He has been identified as a member of ISIS. After shooting the ambassador he stood triumphantly over his body shouting “revenge for Syria and Aleppo”. [1] [20] 

Mevlüt also smashed several of the photos which were part of the exhibition and reportedly wounded three other people in the attack. [1] 

He was shot dead by police. [5] 

Source: https://www.everipedia.com/mevl%C3%BCt- ... z4TKPP5Fda

[American Dream]

http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2016/12/l ... a-are.html

Look how ALL Western media are romanticizing the Turkish gunman and ignoring his Jihad message
""'Don't forget Aleppo' - Russian ambassador's killer". They almost are implying that he was noble in his deed. Can you imagine such headlines for the killers of US ambassador in Libya? CNN had the exact same headline, as did other Western sites and papers.
Posted by As'ad AbuKhalil

[Harvey]

http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2016/12/look-how-all-western-media-are.html

Look how ALL Western media are romanticizing the Turkish gunman and ignoring his Jihad message
""'Don't forget Aleppo' - Russian ambassador's killer". They almost are implying that he was noble in his deed. Can you imagine such headlines for the killers of US ambassador in Libya? CNN had the exact same headline, as did other Western sites and papers.
Posted by As'ad AbuKhalil

As ever AD, what is your point in relaying this garbled message to us?

[MacCruiskeen]

#LiberalsForWar



(Yes, it's that David Simon. Contemptible, and wholly typical.)

[American Dream]

In this case, good food for thought...

[MacCruiskeen]

In this case, good food for thought...

Spare us the significant ellipses, American Dream.... Say what you mean....

[82_28]

Man, people are totally starting starting to get personal these days. Not saying it didn't exist before. But it seems worse now than ever.

"Peace pony" -- I like that. Thanks!

[seemslikeadream]

so no security problem in Turkey?

[SonicG]

I think this was to be expected merely due to Trump being elected...Countries and "terror organizations" see a massive weakness in Trump who seems to have no other policy or strategy beyond "hire a bunch of generals and billionaires to deal with the mess while I continue to make business deals". He is a weak president-elect with slim global support and a rabid opposition (the media sector of which is perhaps giddy with the prospoects of what their continuous building-up and tearing-down of Trump will do for their ratings), ripe for exploitation...Of course Trump is trying to push everything under the terrah unbrella:

Donald Trump: Germany, Turkey, Switzerland attacks a wake-up call on terrorism

U.S. president-elect Donald Trump blamed Monday’s multiple terrorist attacks on radical Islamic terrorism, calling the deadly day a wake-up call for the world and vowing to destroy the Islamic State.
“Today there were terror attacks in Turkey, Switzerland and Germany - and it is only getting worse. The civilized world must change thinking!” he tweeted.
He also put a more-detailed statement blaming the Berlin attacks on Islamism and noting the symbolism of an attack on a Christian-holiday celebration.
“Innocent civilians were murdered in the streets as they prepared to celebrate the Christmas holiday. ISIS and other Islamic terrorists continuously slaughter Christians in their communities and places of worship as part of their global jihad,” Mr. Trump said in the statement.
He went on to say that “these terrorists and their regional and worldwide networks must be eradicated from the face of the earth, a mission we will carry out with all freedom-loving partners.”
Mr. Trump made repeated hay during the presidential campaign about the Obama administration’s reluctance to use any form of the word “Islam” in relation to terrorist attacks.
In Turkey, the Russian ambassador was shot dead by a man who yelled “Allahu Akbar.” In Germany, a truck driver, reportedly a Pakistani, killed at least nine people by driving the vehicle through a packed Christmas market. And in Zurich, three people were shot at an Islamic center by a person clad from head-to-toe in black.
However, only the Turkish attack had a known attacker and motive on Monday evening.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... ttacks-wa/

[seemslikeadream]

^^^^

Donald Trump: Germany, Turkey, Switzerland attacks a wake-up call on terrorism

U.S. president-elect Donald Trump blamed Monday’s multiple terrorist attacks on radical Islamic terrorism, calling the deadly day a wake-up call for the world and vowing to destroy the Islamic State.
“Today there were terror attacks in Turkey, Switzerland and Germany - and it is only getting worse. The civilized world must change thinking!” he tweeted.

[SonicG]

"must change thinking!" -- almost as illiterate as "unpresidented"...
As if just saying "radical Islam" is some sort of magic spell that will immediately get rid of all the "evil" in the world...