Is Trump being backed by the US military?

[Nordic]

Today I've seen 2 instances of non-US based observers, both of whom I respect a great deal, suggest that Trump has the backing of the US Military. This would explain a great deal.

It would explain how he was able to win the election when The CIA and the neocons backed Clinton to the point where the result was supposedly never in doubt (and they made sure Bush got it in 2000 and 2004 and would have hacked it for Obama if needed) and it would explain why there is such a massive media propaganda storm against Trump (backed again by the Deep State and CIA). It's very possible the military saw us heading inexorably to war with Russia (as we most certainly were with Obama ---> Clinton) and the military might actually think a war with Russia is a terrible idea (because it is literally fucking insane!). And the military may have put their foot down and put the brakes on the CIA's plans. There is now a clear battle going on behind the scenes, visible up to most of us as an orchestrated, unanimous media assault against Trump's legitimacy combined with portraying Vladimir and those dastardly Russians as being a serious threat to the USA. The CIA/Deep State has run this country for a very very long time with no opposition. JFK and his brother may have been the last people to actively oppose them, and their fate discouraged any further opposition. But the military is another matter ENTIRELY.

I've been trying to wrap my head around this since Election Day, when in the morning I knew Hillary going to lose and she cancelled her fireworks extravaganza. Since then, because I originally felt the shift occur when Weiner's laptop was discovered and Comey came out the way he did that the FBI was the opposing party BTS. But the FBI vs the CIA/Deep State doesn't seem like it would be much of a contest. The military is a major wildcard that may have surprised even the PTB.

Thoughts?

[seemslikeadream]

well he does have 5 military officers in his cabinet I think..that's including Gen YellowCake Flynn

most Generals in the White House Since World War II

on second thought I think right now there is only 3

[seemslikeadream]

and Goldman Sachs number is 6 in his cabinet

88 former military leaders write letter backing Donald Trump for president
By David Wright, Ryan Browne and Naomi Lim, CNN
Updated 7:38 PM ET, Tue September 6, 2016
Trump touts military support with list of endorsements


The letter was signed by four 4-star generals and fourteen 3-star flag officers
The leaders were critical of the Obama administration's national security and foreign policy
Washington (CNN)Donald Trump's campaign released a letter Tuesday signed by 88 retired military leaders endorsing his presidential candidacy, including four four-star generals and 14 three-star flag officers, according to the campaign.

The group, which was organized by Maj. Gen. Sidney Shachnow and Rear Admiral Charles Williams, praised Trump and declared that "the 2016 election affords the American people an urgently needed opportunity to make a long-overdue course correction in our national security posture and policy."
Also included in the letter was Gen. Burwell Bell, a retired four-star general who commanded US forces in Korea from 2006 until his retirement in 2008, and a notable inclusion in light of Trump's rhetoric allowing for the possibility of nuclear proliferation in the Asia-Pacific region.
"As retired senior leaders of America's military, we believe that such a change can only be made by someone who has not been deeply involved with, and substantially responsible for, the hollowing out of our military and the burgeoning threats facing our country around the world. For this reason, we support Donald Trump's candidacy to be our next Commander-in-Chief," the group wrote in their letter.

The former US military leaders were sharply critical of the Obama administration's national security and foreign policy, warning that "enemies have become emboldened, sensing weakness and irresolution in Washington" and that "in our professional judgment, the combined effort is potentially extremely perilous."
"We support Donald Trump and his commitment to rebuild our military, secure our borders, to defeat our Islamic supremacist adversaries, and restore law and order domestically. We urge our fellow Americans to do the same."
One of the letter's signers told CNN his endorsement for Trump was not unqualified, citing how the Republican presidential nominee's comments about torture and his suggestion that the military should target terrorists' families were cause for concern.
"Yes, they did concern me and I'll tell you why: a lot of times people say things not really understanding the consequences of their statements," Brigadier General Remo Butler (Ret) told CNN's Carol Costello on the "Newsroom."
However Butler, who last worked as chief of staff at Special Operations Command in Tampa, Florida, said his concerns were assuaged by the team of national security advisers Trump had assembled.
"I would be a fool to give anyone my unqualified support," Butler said. "I am listening to what he says. I am listening and watching his actions, and right now today, ... I am supporting him."
RELATED: Reconciler in chief: Obama appeals to the people on foreign visits
Other Republican nominees in recent election cycles have managed to secure a larger number of generals and admirals as public backers.
Sen. John McCain, a former Naval Aviator, was endorsed by 300 generals and admirals in his 2008 contest with Barack Obama.
An even bigger number backed former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney in 2012 via a full-page ad in the Washington Times.
Clinton has yet to release a full list of senior officers backing her presidential bid, but several former generals have made their support for her public, including the former commander of US forces in Afghanistan, US Marine Gen. John Allen, as well as US Army four-star generals Bob Sennewald and David Maddox.
Some of the most high-profile generals from recent conflicts, like David Petraeus, Stanley McChrystal, James Mattis and Raymond Odierno as well as Adm. William McRaven have not publicly said who they are voting for this election.
And former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, retired Gen. Martin Dempsey, recently wrote an open letter lambasting generals for being overtly political.
The other four-stars on the list, Gen. Alfred Hansen, Adm. Jerry Johnson, US Navy, Retired and Gen. Crosbie "Butch" Saint, all retired almost a decade before 9/11.
Among the three-star generals on the list, Lt. Gen. Marvin Covault commanded the military's response to the Rodney King riots of 1992 in Los Angeles. Covault has also publicly advocated for Common Core education standards, something Trump has regularly slammed on the campaign trail.
Lt. Gen. William Boykin a former officer in the Army's elite Delta Force encountered controversy when he expressed overt religious views while serving as a commanding officer during the Global War on Terror.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/06/politics/ ... nt-letter/

[Iamwhomiam]

I would hate for that meme to grow legs, Nordic. Sure, some love the guy, of course, but if they take over, it's goodby Trump.

[seemslikeadream]

I'm not sure how the members of the military feel about a draft dogger though

you know like when my family members and friends were in Vietnam coming back with missing limbs and Agent Orange or not coming back at all......and he was chasing pussy in New York?

The military in my family can't stand him especially the ones suffering from Agent Orange

[kelley]

I've been trying to wrap my head around this since Election Day, when in the morning I knew Hillary going to lose and she cancelled her fireworks extravaganza. Since then, because I originally felt the shift occur when Weiner's laptop was discovered and Comey came out the way he did that the FBI was the opposing party BTS. But the FBI vs the CIA/Deep State doesn't seem like it would be much of a contest. The military is a major wildcard that may have surprised even the PTB.

Thoughts?

Want to cast President-Elect Trump as his nation's Mikhail Gorbachev? Not simply in terms of a one-to-one symbolic equivalent, but as the newly appointed leader of a failing state, or a binary proposition, and then take it from there? Free market rhetoric and end of history theses aside, the end of the Cold War has yet to play itself out on US soil, and there must be other options at hand pending Trump's removal from office (possible? perhaps) than theocracy or junta. The world's most powerful military would certainly want to take a hand in protecting its interests, if not those of the country.

[kelley]

On second thought, the buffoonery is more akin to Boris Yeltsin.

Still . . . The United States is all but broken up, save in name. A constitutional crisis will arise sooner rather than later, and that'll be it.

[Luther Blissett]

I'm not sure how the members of the military feel about a draft dogger though

you know like when my family members and friends were in Vietnam coming back with missing limbs and Agent Orange or not coming back at all......and he was chasing pussy in New York?

The military in my family can't stand him especially the ones suffering from Agent Orange

If I were a planner within the deep state, I'd easily use trump to carry out my needs.

[Nordic]

It wouldn't be about "liking" Trump for god's sake, it would be about keeping the military, and the country, from being DESTROYED in a war with Russia.

Ffs.

[Project Willow]

If I were a planner within the deep state, I'd easily use trump to carry out my needs.

He is functioning as their anointed scapegoat. He has become the great beast onto whom all fear and blame, conscious and unconscious, can be safely projected. He is the great mouthpiece out of which any criticism of the US empire and its corrupt institutions is immediately rendered dubious, while the Deep State marches in as savior, maneuvering itself into trusted ally status. Brilliant, actually.

[seemslikeadream]

and not to mention all those easy targets scattered around the world with the president's name on them

[PufPuf93]

If I were a planner within the deep state, I'd easily use trump to carry out my needs.

He is functioning as their anointed scapegoat. He has become the great beast onto whom all fear and blame, conscious and unconscious, can be safely projected. He is the great mouthpiece out of which any criticism of the US empire and its corrupt institutions is immediately rendered dubious, while the Deep State marches in as savior, maneuvering itself into trusted ally status. Brilliant, actually.

Yeah what Willow says.

Trump immunizes and deflects from the evil in the shadows.

[Luther Blissett]

If I were a planner within the deep state, I'd easily use trump to carry out my needs.

He is functioning as their anointed scapegoat. He has become the great beast onto whom all fear and blame, conscious and unconscious, can be safely projected. He is the great mouthpiece out of which any criticism of the US empire and its corrupt institutions is immediately rendered dubious, while the Deep State marches in as savior, maneuvering itself into trusted ally status. Brilliant, actually.

Exactly. A chaotic and despotic presidency will be perfect for them.

[seemslikeadream]

Exactly. A chaotic and despotic presidency will be perfect for them.

Trump immunizes and deflects from the evil in the shadows.

easy targets scattered around the world with the president's name on them

a perfect choice for someone

but hey I've heard we will not be going to war with Russia so there's a plus


the US likes drawn out long term wars...no profit in nuclear destruction of the planet

[MacCruiskeen]

If I were a planner within the deep state, I'd easily use trump to carry out my needs.

He is functioning as their anointed scapegoat. He has become the great beast onto whom all fear and blame, conscious and unconscious, can be safely projected. He is the great mouthpiece out of which any criticism of the US empire and its corrupt institutions is immediately rendered dubious, while the Deep State marches in as savior, maneuvering itself into trusted ally status. Brilliant, actually.

I don't see how this works, Willow. The US military conducted over 26,000 bombing-raids on six countries under Obama last year alone, and nearly everyone turned a blind eye to it, if they even noticed. There was a massive transfer of wealth to the rich, the military budget was increased still further, Guantanamo was kept open, Manning was imprisoned, Assange was forced into that embassy, Libya was wrecked, ISIS headchoppers worked for the US in Syria, etc., etc. etc., and in the last few months alone there's been a massive build-up of US/NATO troops & weaponry in seven countries all along the Russian border. Barely a voice was raised against any of this, because Obama is not a scapegoat but the smooth-talking saint of cool.

Now, suddenly, every US military or deep-state action will be under intense scrutiny by Liberals desperate for an opportunity to impeach Trump or even just to vilify him.

Here's a prediction I re-posted in the data dump. I'd bet a million dollars on it, if I had a million dollars:

Michael Tracey ‏@mtracey 8 mins ago

The (largely ignored) wars that Obama initiated are going to be portrayed as evidence of "fascism" to the extent they continue under Trump.

https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/816680463418949633

The last thing the deep state wants or needs is a scapegoat in the Oval Office. (And how would he function as a scapegoat anyway?) They want an enabler.