Is Trump being backed by the US military?

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Re: Is Trump being backed by the US military?

Postby Nordic » Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:32 am

The speech to the CIA was really interesting on several levels.

And so was the reaction from Brennsn the very next day.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.busine ... rks-2017-1

Ex-CIA director John Brennan: 'Trump should be ashamed of himself' over CIA remarks

Michelle Mark Jan 21, 2017, 10:07 PM ET

Former CIA Director John Brennan said President Donald Trump "should be ashamed" for using a speech at the agency's headquarters to boast about himself, his former deputy chief of staff said Saturday.

"Former CIA Director Brennan is deeply saddened and angered at Donald Trump's despicable display of self-aggrandizement in front of CIA's Memorial Wall of Agency heroes," Nick Shapiro said in a statement.

Trump had spoken to CIA employees earlier Saturday while standing in front of a wall honoring operatives who were killed in the line of duty.




Things could get very interesting very soon. I'm starting to suspect Prince has Trump's back. Who else would be an effective bodyguard against the likes of the CIA? Not just factions in the military but Blackwater itself. This is what I'm starting to suspect. I think a lot of people are not happy with the Spooks forcing them to support Muslim terrorists. I think that is rubbing a lot of military men the wrong way. To them, it's treason. (And it sure as fuck is treason)

What else is interesting: Tulsi Gabbard, who has been trying to get people to wake up to the fact that our government has been using Muslim/terrorist proxy armies just went to Syria, by herself, on a fact-finding mission without informing, or the approval of, the party or congressional leadership. She is also a veteran.
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Re: Is Trump being backed by the US military?

Postby Agent Orange Cooper » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:30 am

Tomorrow is Day One. My feeling is it will be eventful.
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Re: Is Trump being backed by the US military?

Postby kelley » Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:45 am

it might have been a purely 'political' gesture, but obama could have nominated a judge of his choice for the court using the option of a recess appointment for the vacant supreme seat. he chose not to fight that battle. antonin scalia himself was adamantly opposed to this clause and argued for its excision. does obama's 'action' in this instance mesh with the cut-and-dried arrogant assumption of a foregone clinton administration? that the court is basically neutered at this particular moment with trump taking office raises possibilities of situations unfolding that may be magnitudes worse than the horrendous bush vs gore decision. this could prove to be the most significant blunder that undoes obama's questionable 'legacy'.
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Re: Is Trump being backed by the US military?

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:48 am

day one started on Friday

apparently someone missed a couple of days that were extremely important


and this is WAR


thank you trump supporters


this has already happened

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Anti-Trump protesters charged with ‘felony rioting’ face 10-year jail sentences

Trump Appears To Blow A Kiss At FBI Director James Comey
“He’s become more famous than me.”


on edit

2.9 MILLION people showed up Saturday
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Re: Is Trump being backed by the US military?

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:26 am

The Most Alarming Thing Trump Said at CIA Event Regards Iraq

Posted on Jan 23, 2017

By Juan Cole / Informed Comment


Donald Trump has had a contentious relationship with the US intelligence community, in part over their conviction that the Russian Federation attempted to use cyber tradecraft to interfere in the US election on behalf of Trump.

His visit to the Central Intelligence Agency headquarters at Langley, Va., was probably intended by his handlers to begin the work of repairing that relationship. From all accounts it did not. The most alarming thing Trump said, however, regarded Iraq:

THE OLD EXPRESSION TO THE VICTOR BELONG THE SPOILS. YOU REMEMBER, YOU ALWAYS SAY KEEP THE OIL. I WASN’T A FAN OF IRAQ, I DIDN’T WANT TO GO INTO IRAQ. BUT I WILL TELL YOU, WHEN WE WERE IN, WE GOT OUT WRONG. I ALWAYS SAID, IN ADDITION TO THAT, I SAID IT FOR ECONOMIC REASONS, BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, MIKE, IF WE KEPT THE OIL YOU PROBABLY WOULDN’T HAVE ISIS BECAUSE THAT’S WHERE THEY MADE THEIR MONEY IN THE FIRST PLACE SO WE HAVE KEPT THE OIL. BUT, OKAY. MAYBE WE’LL HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE. BUT THE FACT IS, WE SHOULD HAVE KEPT THE OIL. I BELIEVE THAT THIS GROUP IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT GROUPS IN THIS COUNTRY TOWARD MAKING US SAFE, TOWARD MAKING US WINNERS AGAIN. TOWARD ENDING ALL OF THE PROBLEMS. WE HAVE SO MANY PROBLEMS THAT ARE INTERRELATED, THAT WE DON’T EVEN THINK OF, BUT INTERRELATED, TO THE KIND OF HAVOC AND FEAR THAT THIS SICK GROUP OF PEOPLE HAS CAUSED. SO I CAN ONLY SAY THAT I AM WITH YOU A THOUSAND PERCENT. . .

The United Nations Charter and other treaty instruments that are part of US law actually abolished the principle of ‘to the victors go the spoils.’ Conquering states in a war are not allowed to annex territory from the vanquished as of 1945. That’s what is wrong with the Israeli creeping annexation of Palestine since 1967.

Trump is also wrong that Iraqi petroleum fueled Daesh (ISIS, ISIL), or that the US could have “taken” Iraqi petroleum. This is because he does not know Iraqi geography or political geography. Most oil in Iraq is either down in Shiite territory at Basra (the vast majority of what is pumped) or up in Kurdish-held territory at Kirkuk. Daesh in Iraq had relatively little access to petroleum revenues, and the experts on it believe that contributions from Gulf supporters and taxes and plunder from local people (including on agriculture) were much more important. The situation is perhaps a little different in Syria, but we’re talking about Iraq.

Trump uses the phrase “take the oil,” apparently, to mean do a deal to handle the export of petroleum from a country. He said that Rex Tillerson, the CEO of ExxonMobil, goes to a country and “takes their oil.” I’m not sure whether he understands that this is typically a business deal negotiated by both sides rather than an act of coercion.

Any attempt by the United States to occupy Iraqi petroleum fields militarily and unilaterally would have resulted in massive bombings of them by Shiite militias in Basra, including Muqtada al-Sadr’s Mahdi Army (‘peace brigades’). You can’t export a flammable material like petroleum from a country nowadays against its people’s will. They have too many bombs. Any small garrison of US troops at Basra would have been constantly under attack.

Moreover, the Iraqi government would never have permitted it, so you’d have to overthrow that government and re-occupy Iraq. Likewise, if the US ‘took’ Iraqi petroleum in any way that reduced profits for Iraqis, it would de-fund the Iraqi state and military, which are already woefully weak, and actually help Daesh attack an enfeebled Baghdad! Trump is arguing for a policy that enthrones Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi as Caliph of Iraq!

In any case, ExxonMobil passed on Iraqi oil bids because the Iraqi ministry of petroleum put too many conditions on them and made them relatively expensive. China’s oil companies did some contracts, in contrast. If Dick Cheney really did overthrow Saddam Hussein to allow US petroleum companies to get at Iraqi oil, he may as well not have bothered. China’s economy has slowed so much that world thirst for oil stopped growing so fast, which put enormous downward pressure on prices. Also, US petroleum companies pioneered hydraulic fracturing to get oil out of fields like Bakken. The fields are probably shallow but for the moment the US isn’t importing as much petroleum as it used to.

So the fact is, the US petroleum companies probably don’t want to “take” Iraqi petroleum, don’t need it, and wouldn’t want all the massive security problems that would cause.

There is another calculation here. Oil is only used for transportation in the US, not for electricity generation (except in Hawaii). There are already 500,000 electric vehicles on US roads, and the number is about to spike exponentially. These vehicles can be fueled by solar and wind power. US demand for petroleum is about to fall off of a cliff, over the next decade, even setting aside the fracking issue.

Still, Trump’s team is talking about swinging into military action against Daesh in Iraq and Syria, and so are planning to add yet another war to all the overt and covert ones being fought by the United States (Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan’s tribal belt, Somalia, Libya, Yemen, etc. etc.) This will be Trump’s war for Oil and against Daesh. Such a war is quixotic. The Iraqi forces are near to finishing Daesh off in Mosul, its last major Iraqi stronghold, anyway. And the US doesn’t need or want Iraqi petroleum.

The problem with thinking about Daesh as primarily a military problem with a direct US military solution is that that strategy ignores the dual character of Daesh as also a terrorist organization, to which it will revert as it loses on the battlefield. How it is rolled up is important.

Trump meandered all over the place at Langley, talking about how young he is at heart (his narcissism would not let him get past the phrase ‘When I was younger’ and so he had to spend a lot of time dancing around being elderly). He talked at length about how he campaigned, how many rallies he held, all of this inappropriate in a room full of analysts and field officers.

He unwisely stood in front of the wall at Langley HQ that lists the over 100 CIA field agents killed in the line of duty. He only acknowledged them in a sentence.

Trump at one point said, “BUT THE MILITARY GAVE US TREMENDOUS PERCENTAGES. WE WERE UNBELIEVABLY SUCCESSFUL IN THE ELECTION WITH GETTING THE VOTE OF THE MILITARY. PROBABLY ALMOST EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM VOTED FOR ME, BUT I’LL NOT ASK YOU TO RAISE YOUR HANDS.”

CIA personnel have standing instructions, like many US government employees, not to speak at the level of policy, only of analysis. Policy, they feel, is above their pay grade. Trump bringing up whether they voted for him, in this teasing way, apparently set off loud alarm bells inside the agency, according to ex-CIA chief John Brennan. The last time intelligence was highly politicized, the pressure came from Bush-Cheney and produced a faulty National Intelligence Estimate on Iraqi ‘weapons of mass destruction’ that the Agency has never lived down.
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Re: Is Trump being backed by the US military?

Postby SonicG » Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:02 am

And how does Trump feel about the FBI??

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I don't think he is blowing him a kiss but he did give him a big pat on the back...

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Re: Is Trump being backed by the US military?

Postby semper occultus » Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:42 am

no idea what the relevant thread for this is.....if any...

GCHQ chief Robert Hannigan quits

The director of GCHQ, Robert Hannigan, has decided to step down early for what he described as personal reasons, the intelligence agency has announced.

After a good deal of thought I have decided that this is the right time to move on and to allow someone else to lead GCHQ through its next phase.


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jan/23/gchq-chief-robert-hannigan-quits

..after only 2 years in the job...

UK intelligence gave US key tipoff about Russian hacking, report says
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Re: Is Trump being backed by the US military?

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:16 pm

trump freezes hiring except for military
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Re: Is Trump being backed by the US military?

Postby RocketMan » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:17 pm

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/01 ... i-j23.html

Appearance of military officers during Trump’s inaugural address still unexplained

A strange and disturbing sequence took place behind President Donald Trump as he delivered his inaugural address Friday, which has gone virtually without comment in the news media.

Early in his address, ten military officers walked up and stood behind the president so they would prominently appear with Trump in the camera shots beamed across the US and the world. After 45 seconds, a Marine officer prompts the sailors and soldiers to leave, and they walk away.

The unusual incident prompted two comments during the New York Times live blog of the address. Jon Meacham, a presidential historian and the current executive editor at publisher Random House wrote, “The military guard behind him seems unusual; am I right?”

Maggie Haberman, the New York Times White House correspondent, responded, “Yes, and they have dispersed, but was it because it was raining?”

Meacham is presumably a well-informed commentator on inaugural protocol, having written a Pulitzer Prize-winning biography of Andrew Jackson in 2009 and a 2012 biography of Thomas Jefferson. However, the Times, the Washington Post and other major dailies and news networks never commented on the event further. The only mention of it was in the celebrity gossip web site TMZ and in the Daily Mail in the United Kingdom.

The innocent explanation about protecting the president and his guests from the light drizzle does not seem credible. While the first Air Force officer comes down with an umbrella in hand at one minute into the speech, the other officers who appear 16 seconds later have nothing in their hands. What happened during that 16 seconds was not seen by most viewers because most networks cut away from Trump to view former President Obama nod approvingly as Trump praises Barack and Michelle Obama for “their gracious aid during this transition.”

However, a more distant camera shot available on the web site of USA Today provides more detail. At one minute and 16 seconds into the speech, Trump turns around, at which point two marine sentries behind him open the doors of the west side of the capitol building to allow the group of 10 officers to walk down the steps to stand directly behind Trump.
The group, consisting of mostly junior officers along with captains and higher-ranking officers from the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marine Corps, appeared just as Trump was saying, “Today’s ceremony, however, has very special meaning. Because today we are not merely transferring power from one Administration to another, or from one party to another—but we are transferring power from Washington, DC, and giving it back to you, the American People.”

“For too long, a small group in our nation’s capital has reaped the rewards of government while the people have borne the cost.”

At that point, the Marine officer tells the officers to disperse.

In its report, TMZ wrote, “Donald Trump’s inaugural speech did not go off without a hitch—there was a clear fumble by the military—but everyone’s clammed up.” It notes that the officers “stand motionless for 40 seconds when another man in uniform appears, clearly whispers something to the effect of, ‘We gotta get outta here STAT [as soon as possible],’ and they quickly leave.

“We’ve made a ton of calls to the military and no one’s giving us an answer. Several of the people we spoke with say it was clearly a misstep for the guys to come out, but they won’t say how it happened.

“One of the last people we spoke with simply said, “No one’s saying anything.”

The Daily Mail wrote, “The unprecedented move saw military soldiers suddenly walk up unannounced behind the recently-pronounced US President Donald Trump.

“The President had just begun his address when several members of the armed forces in uniform walked up behind him and stood there stoically. Viewers could have gotten the impression that all was going as planned, if not for the appearance of an extra man in uniform. That man seemed to tell the soldiers something, prompting them to leave before the end of the speech.

“Trump didn’t seem to notice anything out of the ordinary and carried on with his address.”

One explanation is that the prominent presence of the military was meant as a signal to Trump’s political enemies—both within the state and more broadly among the masses of people in the US and around the world opposing him—that he has the Pentagon and US military machine at his disposal.

According to the Huffington Post, a member of Trump’s transition team wanted to have tanks and missile launchers in the inaugural parade. “They were legit thinking Red Square/North Korea-style parade,” a source involved in inaugural planning told the Huffington Post, referring to massive military parades in Moscow and Pyongyang, typically seen as an aggressive display of muscle-flexing.

The military turned down the request, the Huffington Post said, because “Some were concerned about the optics of having tanks and missile launchers rolling down Pennsylvania Avenue. But they also worried that the tanks, which often weigh over 100,000 pounds, would destroy the roads. ‘I could absolutely see structural support being a reason [not to use tanks],” a Department of Defense official said. ‘D.C. is built on a swamp to begin with.’”

The ultranationalist and militarist speech—now broadly acknowledged to have been written by Trump’s fascistic chief strategist Steve Bannon and senior advisor Stephen Miller—included threats against “radical Islam” and virtually the entire world. He denounced those who had “depleted our military” and issued a chilling threat against political dissent, saying, “At the bedrock of our politics will be a total allegiance to the United States of America, and through our loyalty to our country, we will rediscover our loyalty to each other.” He added, “There should be no fear... We will be protected by the great men and women of our military and law enforcement and, most importantly, we are protected by God.”

Trump has sought to build up support in the military ranks, bringing ex-generals into his cabinet and calling for a sharp expansion of military spending—to be paid for through slashing social spending—an expansion of troop levels and increase of the Navy fleet from its current 274 ships to 350.

Minutes after being sworn in at the Capitol, Trump went to the President’s Room to sign a series of papers, including legislation cleared by Congress last week that provides a waiver for General James N. Mattis from a legal requirement that military officers wait seven years before serving as defense secretary.
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Re: Is Trump being backed by the US military?

Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:18 pm

Thanks for that, Rocket Man. The appearance of those soldiers looks distinctly pre-arranged. Trump raises his finger (as if to give a signal), pauses, says "...magnificent", immediately turns round, nods toward the closed door, murmurs "thank you", and then the door opens and the soldiers appear. If he and the Secret Service hadn't been expecting it to happen, you'd certainly expect to see some baffled or worried reaction from him and from them.

Presidential inaugurations are not improvised like jam sessions.

Also, that film shows clearly that the crowd in the Mall was much bigger than the BBC, Reuters and the rest of the media pretended.
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Re: Is Trump being backed by the US military?

Postby Cordelia » Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:28 pm

"Is Trump being backed by the US military?"

Literally, evidently.

Presidential inaugurations are not improvised like jam sessions.


Exactly, Mac. My understanding is that the ceremony is highly orchestrated according to a traditional protocol: entrances, seating arrangements, etc., all worked out weeks/months in advance by The Joint Congressional Committee on Inaugural Ceremonies.

Note at 3 min. mark; entrance doors to inaugural platform open for military member to enter; camera pans out to show more military members filing in, as they're filing out, footage appears edited. Very bizarre.


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Re: Is Trump being backed by the US military?

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:18 pm

Flynn Is Leading The Military’s Takeover Of The National Security Council

JONAH BENNETT
National Security/Politics Reporter
11:16 AM 01/23/2017

Defense Intelligence Agency director U.S. Army Lt. General Michael Flynn testifies before the House Intelligence Committee on "Worldwide Threats" in Washington February 4, 2014. REUTERS/Gary Cameron. Defense Intelligence Agency director U.S. Army Lt. General Michael Flynn testifies before the House Intelligence Committee on "Worldwide Threats" in Washington February 4, 2014. REUTERS/Gary Cameron.
National security adviser and retired Army Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn is leading the crusade to stack the National Security Council full of former military figures, an approach completely opposite to former President Barack Obama’s strategy.

Flynn is following in the footsteps of President Donald Trump, who not only appointed Flynn to the NSC, but also tapped retired Marine Corps Gen. James Mattis for head of the Pentagon and retired Marine Corps Gen. John F. Kelly for secretary of Homeland Security.

Both Trump and Flynn are very intent on bringing veterans into the administration, and now that effort is playing out with NSC hiring decisions, The Washington Post reports.

For Flynn, there are two main reasons for preferring staffers with military experience, said transition officials who spoke to The Washington Post.

The first is that Flynn is looking for people he can trust — and also people who he knows personally. And second, Flynn thinks the Obama administration’s NSC was stacked with people who lacked real-world fighting experience, which led to crucial mistakes and failure to execute.

“We’re going to have people who have looked down a rifle scope,” one transition official recalled Flynn as saying.

There are a number of prominent picks coming, which will soon be officially announced. Many of them are former Army or Marine Corps.

But some observers think that Flynn’s reaction to Obama’s staffing strategies may pose a different sort of problem.

“The president needs a White House staff that is ambidextrous, able to work both realms,” said Kori Schake, research fellow at the Hoover Institution. “Obama was poorly served by having staff that didn’t understand the military demands. Trump’s, if it is predominantly military, will struggle to swim effectively in political currents.”

Obama’s NSC was viewed as so ideologically driven that even his own former secretaries of defense blasted him for hiring junior policy staffers with no military experience, who would then second guess commanders out in the field.

“It was the operation micromanagement that drove me nuts, of White House and NSC staffers calling senior commanders out in the field and asking them questions second-guessing those commanders,” former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates said last year.

Former Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel also complained that Obama’s NSC lacked staffers with real-world experience.

“I don’t think there’s one veteran on Obama’s staff at the White House,” Hagel said. “I don’t think there is one businessperson, and I don’t believe there is one person who has ever run anything, and other than Vice President Biden, none of them have been elected to anything. You have to leaven the loaf with experience, and this has not happened.”

http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/23/flynn ... z4WdaQZoTa


Donald Trump’s national security advisor Mike Flynn ‘investigated over Russia ties’
The FBI, CIA, and the NSA are reportedly investigating communications between Flynn and Russian offcials

Loulla-Mae Eleftheriou-Smith 15 hours ago

Gen Flynn had previously led Trump supporter in chants to "lock up" Hillary Clinton Drew Angerer/Getty
Communications between President Donald Trump’s national security advisor Michael Flynn and Russian officials are being investigated by counterintelligence agencies, according to the Wall Street Journal.

The news came just hours after the retired Lieutenant General had been sworn in as Mr Trump’s national security advisor on Sunday.

The newspaper reported it is not clear when the inquiry began, whether it has produced any incriminating evidence, whether it is still underway or closing

The intelligence bodies reportedly investigating Mr Flynn’s ties with Russia are the Treasury Department, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), and the National Security Agency (NSA).

People claiming to be close to the matter told the newspaper the inquiry is intended to understand the nature of the contact between Mr Flynn and Russian officials, and whether the contact may have broken the law.

A key point is understood to be the examination of phone calls made by Mr Flynn to the Russian ambassador to America, Sergey Kislyak, on 29 December, the same day Barack Obama expelled 35 Russian diplomats from the country. The former President took the action, which included imposing sanctions on Russia, in response to the country’s alleged hacking of the Democratic National Committee’s (DNC) computers and interfering with the US presidential election.

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Last week Mr Trump’s team denied Mr Flynn had been in contact with Mr Kislyak, but later admitted calls had been made between the two. The day before the inauguration, a senior US official told the Associated Press that the pair had been in “very frequent" contact, while Reuters reported five calls had been made on 29 December.

A White House spokeswoman, Sarah Sanders, said: “We have absolutely no knowledge of any investigation or even a basis for such an investigation.”




Will Flynn bring back Yellowcake to WH Menu after 1-21-17?
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Re: Is Trump being backed by the US military?

Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:37 pm

Cordelia » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:28 pm wrote:"Is Trump being backed by the US military?"

Literally, evidently.

Presidential inaugurations are not improvised like jam sessions.


Exactly, Mac. My understanding is that the ceremony is highly orchestrated according to a traditional protocol: entrances, seating arrangements, etc., all worked out weeks/months in advance by The Joint Congressional Committee on Inaugural Ceremonies.

Note at 3 min. mark; entrance doors to inaugural platform open for military member to enter; camera pans out to show more military members filing in, as they're filing out, footage appears edited. Very bizarre.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcfrbB9hpoI


Yes, weird. First they're there, then they're gone, as if by magic. Is there any film of those soldiers actually leaving?
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Re: Is Trump being backed by the US military?

Postby Agent Orange Cooper » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:47 am

I am pretty sure they are there. You can see them in the wide shot at 4:11 standing in the aisle way a little further back than it looked in the main shot. Then it cuts back as Trump says

"for too long a small group in our nation's capitol has reaped the rewards of government while the people have born the cost,"

at which point at 4:23, you can see the guard behind him nod, and they all turn around and leave.
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Re: Is Trump being backed by the US military?

Postby Iamwhomiam » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:47 pm

What struck me was the timing of their entrance coinciding with the timing of Trumps words. It seemed as though they were assuming control of our government.
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