*president trump is seriously dangerous*

Moderators: Elvis, DrVolin, Jeff

Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:09 pm

Judge who was assigned Trump child rape case will oversee the emoluments lawsuit
In Politics by Drew Salisbury / January 24, 2017


The federal judge who ordered a hearing on the Jane Doe child rape case against then-candidate Donald Trump and billionaire Jeffrey Epstein will be presiding over the new emoluments lawsuit accusing the president of violating the Constitution.

The New York Times reported that Judge Ronnie Abrams, an appointee of President Obama, was assigned the ethics case Monday. In October of 2016, Abrams ordered a pretrial hearing to go over the details of a legal complaint against Trump that accused him of raping a 13-year-old girl in Epstein’s apartment and threatening to kill her if she ever went public. While the plaintiff ended up dropping the suit before the hearing took place, Abrams’ order was seen by many as legitimizing the case, and conservative news outlets characterized it as a “desperate” attempt to end Trump’s candidacy.

The new suit alleges that President Trump’s many business operations run counter to the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution, which bars the commander-in-chief from accepting any payments or gifts from foreign powers. Visiting dignitaries who stay at Trump hotels, or foreign governments that approve Trump real estate developments, for example, could be seen as currying favor from the administration. Ethics groups say the president’s resignation from his businesses doesn’t come close to satisfying Constitutional law. For one thing, save a resignation letter, the president has not produced any legal documents showing how he has actually removed himself from his company’s operations.

More to the point, he’s retaining all of his ownership shares; so for all intents and purposes, he’s still in charge.

President Trump has said that it’s impossible for him to have a conflict of interest, which is another way of saying “when the president does something illegal, it’s not illegal.”

The Justice Department, which is funded by U.S. taxpayers, will defend the president, who does not pay taxes, against the lawsuit. The DOJ did not comment on the case, except to say “the department is reviewing the complaint and will respond as appropriate.” A spokesperson for the president said the case was “without merit.”
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/316186/ ... e-lawsuit/
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
User avatar
seemslikeadream
 
Posts: 32090
Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:28 pm
Location: into the black
Blog: View Blog (83)

Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*

Postby JackRiddler » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:10 pm

All seems plausible to me. The sprawl is why properly we should speak of deep politics and parapolitics alongside deep state. "Octopus with a thousand tentacles and 50 heads," as I like to say. And heads constantly growing, splitting, merging, being eaten by other heads, etc.

Yeah, Ledeen (and after all he's just a Flynn friend) is more flag-waving than substance (like Poindexter's appointment was in the Bush years). And yeah on Prince. But I've thought we're agreeing, right? I said almost a rhetorical question because I meant of course very little of it is legible. They can't possibly have much overview at all, certainly not as full an overview as the departing group, and the latter had pretty much lost or abandoned control of the milieu.

Now it will be anything goes and the piratical elements celebrate that, as you're describing, but for the most part opportunistically, rather than out of loyalty to this regime. The private side deregulation policy is going to make it even more opaque.
We meet at the borders of our being, we dream something of each others reality. - Harvey of R.I.

To Justice my maker from on high did incline:
I am by virtue of its might divine,
The highest Wisdom and the first Love.

TopSecret WallSt. Iraq & more
User avatar
JackRiddler
 
Posts: 16007
Joined: Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:59 pm
Location: New York City
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*

Postby 82_28 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:21 pm

Jesus Christ. I heard about it here (Seattle) first and then read about it in Denver as well. He's expanding his hotel "empire".

Trump Hotels, Amid Calls to Divest, Instead Plans U.S. Expansion
Only days after Donald Trump took the oath of office, the head of his hotel-management company outlined hopes for an ambitious expansion across the U.S., raising new questions about potential conflicts between his business and the presidency.

Trump Hotels Chief Executive Officer Eric Danziger suggested the company’s broad U.S. ambitions while saying it shelved plans for expansion in China, where the president’s comments have already led to rocky diplomatic relations.

“There are 26 major metropolitan areas in the U.S., and we’re in five,” Danziger said after a panel discussion Tuesday at the Americas Lodging Investment Summit in Los Angeles. “I don’t see any reason that we couldn’t be in all of them eventually.”


Continues. . .

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... n-ceo-says
There is no me. There is no you. There is all. There is no you. There is no me. And that is all. A profound acceptance of an enormous pageantry. A haunting certainty that the unifying principle of this universe is love. -- Propagandhi
User avatar
82_28
 
Posts: 11194
Joined: Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:34 am
Location: North of Queen Anne
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:23 pm

New Conservative Group Jabs Trump With 'Russian Ties' Ad

(AP)
Wednesday, 25 Jan 2017 10:03 AM

A former CIA operative who ran for president is spearheading a new conservative group to take on President Donald Trump and launching the effort with an accusatory ad linking the billionaire businessman with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

The Washington Examiner reports that Evan McMullin, along with his onetime running mate Republican consultant Mindy Finn, have created a political nonprofit called "Stand Up Republic."

The group's TV ad states: "The President has a secret. What is it? It's the reason Donald Trump always puts Vladimir Putin first. Why Trump insults and abandons our allies, but basks in Putin's praise. Why he compares American intelligence officers who protect us to Nazis ... and covers for Putin's attacks on our democracy. He hides connections to Russians ... and troubling stories keep coming. Is Donald Trump compromised? How can we trust him if he won't he come clean?"

McMullin, a Republican who ran as an independent against Trump and Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election, told the newspaper the group's goals are to "grow a grassroots movement that will be able to exert influence over both the president and members of Congress."

The ad will air on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" program.
http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Conserv ... id/770327/
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
User avatar
seemslikeadream
 
Posts: 32090
Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:28 pm
Location: into the black
Blog: View Blog (83)

Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*

Postby Karmamatterz » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:40 pm

My oh my.....lotsa laughs at the thought of Voice of America becoming politicized. Holy crap that is funny. 100% agree with Wombat and Iam. VOA is total propaganda. The VOA reach is no longer just radio, there is the Internetz and whatever other means they spew forth their "messages."

Why should we be too concerned about a few people leaving the State Department? Just what have they done for us that we can mark off as serving our nation in a just and ethical manner? Everybody is replaceable. There is no special snowflake in about 95% of all jobs. Let them go, whatever.

There seems to be a grasping at anything related to Trump to be critical of. Some stuff is just fluff, with little to no significance. Why should we care if his approval rating in high, low or in the shitter? Is this HuffPo or RI?
User avatar
Karmamatterz
 
Posts: 828
Joined: Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:58 pm
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:46 pm

oh so says the once in awhile poster...if you would like to see some different stuff here it might be advisable to POST SOMETHING DIFFERENT!!

other wise I don't really see a need to criticize what someone :roll: else feels like posting

start an OP post more stuff whatever.....be the change ..don't complain

I'll tell you a secret I don't post for you so you can just put me on ignore cause you know by now what your gonna get
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
User avatar
seemslikeadream
 
Posts: 32090
Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:28 pm
Location: into the black
Blog: View Blog (83)

Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*

Postby Karmamatterz » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:51 pm

SLAD,

About a year ago you and I tussled over Flint. The situation is a little better for some and still very bad for many. Wouldn't it be grand if just half the people who are either marching or angry as all hell took their energy and volunteered to help out the citizens of Flint with the drinking water situation?

Flint Michigan doesn't have CLEAN DRINKING WATER but we are paying for a Wall. #FuckingWall


We're also paying for hundreds or thousands of drones, smart bombs crazy ass weaponry we don't even know about and absolutely creepy robotic creatures that DARPA is developing. Where is all the outrage for that? I'm more concerned about future police robots than I am a potential wall. But thats just me.

Where is all the outrage when Obama signed the the legislation to repeal the Smith-Mundt Act of 1948? Now the State Dept. is allowed to spend hundreds of millions of our tax dollars to spew propaganda on Americans. WTF! Come on! Where is the outrage over that?

I've been sprinkling in comments on friend's Facebook pages when I see their "outrage" over Trump asking them why they weren't outraged with all the national security letters, spying on US and the evil Patriot Act. Where was everybody for the last 15 years? That is not meant for RI peeps (well most of you), it's meant for the general populace. Suddenly it's fashionable to be outraged at the president but the previous two did a fantastic job at stripping away our rights and privacy.
User avatar
Karmamatterz
 
Posts: 828
Joined: Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:58 pm
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*

Postby Karmamatterz » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:54 pm

Really? We're back to volume being important? Quantity is a measure of your stature at RI? Is this an ego battle or one of reason and discourse?
User avatar
Karmamatterz
 
Posts: 828
Joined: Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:58 pm
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:56 pm

well now you are kinda changing the subject of your previous post....you remember that one?

Is this HuffPo or RI?


When I read that I thought you were talking about RI ...call me a alternative facts kinda person :P

please stop changing the subject or putting words in my posts

it is not about volume it is the fact that you criticize and do nothing to improve what you want to see here..I'd say you are being lazy in that regard
Last edited by seemslikeadream on Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
User avatar
seemslikeadream
 
Posts: 32090
Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:28 pm
Location: into the black
Blog: View Blog (83)

Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*

Postby Iamwhomiam » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:59 pm

If you can't tell Karma, well... that's your problem. Even here some gasp yet. And we expect many more to come before this rude clown is tossed out of office and into jail. You surely must understand the impact of those resigning as it relates to messaging; the international view of our nation's stability, no? They all are aware how unstable Trump is, but still keep faith the system will overcome his foibles.

Right now it seems Trump has frozen the normal functioning of government, interfering with their legislative mandates. Yes, many more gasps will be coming your way from more than a few of RI's members. Bear up; it's life. Sometimes it sucks and sometimes it sucks worse. We are presently locked into one of those worse times. Hopefully, it won't be the worst of times.

(I type far to slowly!)
User avatar
Iamwhomiam
 
Posts: 6572
Joined: Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:47 am
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:07 pm

Karmamatterz » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:54 pm wrote:Really? We're back to volume being important? Quantity is a measure of your stature at RI? Is this an ego battle or one of reason and discourse?



it has NOTHING to do with volume ...it has to do with you come here and complain about what you do not like about how someone posts and yet can't find the time to do much posting at all...why should anyone here cater to your desires?

yea I post a whole lot of volume but it has nothing to do with you and you are free to post whatever you want and I would never take you to task for what you post or are interested in..the only grievance I have about you is your need to shape this place without doing anything ...just complain
Last edited by seemslikeadream on Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:10 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
User avatar
seemslikeadream
 
Posts: 32090
Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:28 pm
Location: into the black
Blog: View Blog (83)

Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*

Postby Morty » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:09 pm

Re. state department resignations:

Matt lee @APDiplowriter
They are presidential appointees who submit resignations during every transition. Their resignations were accepted. We wrote about it y'day.
User avatar
Morty
 
Posts: 422
Joined: Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:53 pm
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*

Postby Karmamatterz » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:10 pm

Iam,

Oh I "get it" but am not quite willing to concede there is no hypocrisy. I try not to let buffoons in the White House offend me too much until they are off killing people or spying on us for no good reason. Drumpf is without a doubt a rude clown, jackass etc...His style is just cheesy as hell too. Aside from his grotesque style.....

People have every right to be upset by the prez, but I'm curious if they have a clue what has been going on for the past several years and for the love of God why they never gave a crap before? Can someone explain that? I can guess, but I would really like to know what some folks think about this. We've been spied upon, our lives private communication sucked into a gigantic creepy system that can be used against us easily and few care.

The last president authorized the government to use propaganda against it's own people? Nobody finds that offensive? What is RI if it can't see the absolute irony of that?

On edit:

It's that Trump is obnoxious. Loud. Says stupid things and makes a mockery of what we want our president to be. We project our wishes on to that office. What we got is a product of the USA and suddenly we're surprised. Obama was smooooooth. Nice look, well educated and knew how to articulate his thoughts and ideas. Trump is like the school yard bully. So it's easy to see why people don't like him, aside from his political values.

I guess it just shows that it someone so smooth as silk and delivers the messages in the right way while they steal from you and murder people its ok. No wonder why so many people loved Slick Willy Billy even while he was having fun with cigars and Monica. It's not what they do, it's how they say it and come across. It's a big magic show. If the magician is slick and smooth people applaud. If he is garish and a buffoon they shriek.
Last edited by Karmamatterz on Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:19 pm, edited 2 times in total.
User avatar
Karmamatterz
 
Posts: 828
Joined: Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:58 pm
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:12 pm

excuse me RI has been going on for 12 years now ...we have been paying attention to plenty of stuff ...look through the archives sometime...trump is not our first rodeo



upset.... no paying attention to what is happening ....yes

oh and RI is not "RI" the 30 something regular posters here are all quite different and unusual :P

please don't group us all together
Last edited by seemslikeadream on Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:18 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
User avatar
seemslikeadream
 
Posts: 32090
Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:28 pm
Location: into the black
Blog: View Blog (83)

Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*

Postby Iamwhomiam » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:16 pm

Where is all the outrage when Obama signed the the legislation to repeal the Smith-Mundt Act of 1948? Now the State Dept. is allowed to spend hundreds of millions of our tax dollars to spew propaganda on Americans. WTF! Come on! Where is the outrage over that?


Karma, would you please point out the thread you started that describes your outrage that Obama signed the legislation repealing the Smit-Mundt act. It would have been enlightening to read more about why you then as now found it objectionable, but I can't find it.

I suppose my main objection, Karma, is that you bring us this after the fact and show us your outrage - your great gasp! But why not before, when the legislation seeking the repeal was first introduced into committee, which then could have given us time to organize opposition to its passage? So now you want to complain about RI members not being engaged or for not sharing your gasp?

How about you sharing with us some footage or snaps of preventive political actions you've been engaged in, you know, something bad you actually tried preventing before it became realized, like war or drones or for that matter, trying to prevent the passage of the repeal of the Smith-Mundt Act.
User avatar
Iamwhomiam
 
Posts: 6572
Joined: Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:47 am
Blog: View Blog (0)

PreviousNext

Return to General Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 167 guests