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Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:02 pm

again he was making generalities about RI ...that was what I was replying to pissed at


Edit: per the notion SLAD runs some Irish terror regime that intimidates everyone into silence, well, I am skeptical on that front


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Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:33 pm

In Trump’s America, everybody else can go fuck themselves.



PUNISHMENT
Donald Trump Is Determined To Spite Every Woman
For a man who claims to be pro-life, Trump showed this week that he cares very little for the lives of women at home or abroad.
Erin Gloria Ryan

01.26.17 5:10 PM ET
“Nobody has more respect for women than I do,” said Donald Trump, defending in a presidential debate comments he made about grabbing women “by the pussy” without their permission. It’s safe to say now that if you believed him then, you’re a sucker.
After a wild few days of sweeping orders, bizarre public appearances and unhinged Twitter tirades, it’d be easy to paint President Trump as “unpredictable.” But he seems pretty simple. He is a man driven by the desire to reward those who love him appropriately and punish those who don’t. Last Saturday, women marched with “Fuck Trump” signs, this week, Trump gave the pink hats his own “fuck you.” It’s safe to say that there are many people who have more respect for women than Donald Trump.
On Tuesday, Trump showed his pro-life bona fides with his first, albeit expected, swipe at women. He signed an executive action reinstating the so-called Global Gag Rule, an order that restricts usage of U.S. aid money to public health organizations that don’t provide or even discuss abortion with patients. Initial news reports on the action passed it off as routine, something that essentially put back in place an order the George W Bush administration had enacted in 2001, something that administrations had been enacting and repealing, over and over, since Ronald Reagan first applied it in 1984. But Trump’s version is much broader in scope, affecting all foreign public-health organizations that receive U.S. aid, not just those that provide family-planning services. On a practical level, the new Trump’d up Mexico City Rule may govern up to $9.458 billion in U.S. funds and all public-health organizations the U.S. funds abroad. The Bush version encompassed $575 million and affected only family-planning health providers.
Trump signed the Global Gag rule in the Oval Office, days after the millions-strong Women’s Marches around the country made his inauguration look like a midseason Tampa Bay Rays game. He signed the order surrounded by men, which made the signing of a legal document pertaining to women’s health look a lot like a ‘fuck you’.
But the new president was just getting warmed up. Today, he took it even further, targeting the United Nations for its own gag rule. Now, the only UN agencies eligible for U.S. funds are those that never promote “abortion or sterilization as a method of family planning, or to motivate or coerce any person to undergo an abortion or sterilization.” It’s the global gag rule, but on steroids, and on a larger scale.
One of the groups singled out, the United Nations Population Fund, fights female genital mutilation, child marriage, and maternal death. The global scourge of child marriage means that in some places, girls as young as 10 or 11 face life-threatening pregnancies. Sterilization is a crucial aspect of reducing maternal death, as women in many parts of the world don’t have regular access to birth control, even if a pregnancy would be high-risk for them. Around 300,000 women die during childbirth globally every year. The world we live in is not a world that can humanely exclude abortion and sterilization from discussions of women’s health.
The Trump iteration of the pro-life agenda makes sex something that should have potentially dire consequences for women, whether she’s an American teenager, an African grandmother, or a Syrian refugee. There’s nothing pro-life about letting women die.
On the same desk he signed the global gag order, the President is expected to sign another executive order. While it stops short of a “total and complete shutdown” of Muslims entering the U.S. for any reason, it does target countries with majority populations that adhere to one particular faith, while making exceptions for persecuted “religious minorities” (Christians). The order calls for a 120-day ban on admitting nearly all refugees, and stops the issuance of visas from several majority-Muslim countries, including Syria.
In a master stroke of irony, the order states that the U.S. will not give visas to individuals who commit “acts of bigotry” such as honor killings and violence against women, or discrimination against somebody based on their sexual orientation. Maybe Team Trump should take a glance in one of those big, beautiful White House mirrors. According to reports, slashing funds to domestic violence shelters here in the US is on the table for the Trump administration. And regarding sexual orientation, you’d be hard pressed to find somebody with a richer history of gay antipathy than Mike Pence. In 2006, Pence and some congressional allies attempted to push an anti-gay marriage constitutional amendment. Gay marriage, he said, would lead to social collapse. In addition, Pence has supported Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell and opposed anti-gay discrimination laws. It sure seems like Donald Trump only pretends to care about women or the LGBTQ community inasmuch as it justifies bigotry against brown men. If either of those men applied for an American visa, they’d both be denied by their own administration’s standards.
The people fleeing bloodshed in Syria aren’t cartoonish jihadists of the dark crevices of a Breitbart writer’s holy-war fanfic. According to the United Nations Refugee Agency, 73 percent of refugees from Syria are women and children. The likely-soon-to-be-embattled United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA) estimates that 360,000 women directly impacted by the Syrian conflict were pregnant. Of those, 80,200 have fled to neighboring countries, many of which lack resources to provide maternal care to an influx that size.
A final, cruel twist of the knife seems to be the mental gymnastics routine required to understand how Trump can characterize Syria as a humanitarian disaster while praising Vladimir Putin, who, alongside Syrian president Bashar Al-Assad, is arguably responsible for much of the slaughter. Trump has allied himself with an ally of the man who has turned Syria into Hell, and then turned his back on those who wish to escape. Children. Women. Pregnant women.
Beyond that, it’s tough to fathom the mutual exclusivity of the beliefs that a fetus is a person worthy of being protected at all costs, but a pregnant refugee is something less than a person, something we can turn our backs on. How can a person who calls themselves an advocate for the unborn be so callous about the lives of the post-born? He only approves of abortion that occurs after the third trimester.
None of this makes sense unless you think of it in terms of reward and punishment. Trump distributes rewards to the people who have loved him to his satisfaction. Those who showed up to Donald Trump’s rallies dutifully doffing their MAGA hats, those who surround him in the Oval Office, bloated with smugness as he signs orders restricting women’s choices. Those who know what Trump means when he says “we” and “them.”
Those who shield the President from the truth about crowd size, to protect his ego. Those who once screamed LOCK HER UP, who now don’t mind that he didn’t lock her up, but will scream LOCK HER UP anyway, because it’s fun. Those who want to stick it to the blue states, who, like Trump, cannot fathom a country so full of stuck-up cultural snots trying to make them feel bad about their choices. Those who clean up after his irresponsible barking during humiliating Sunday show appearances, visibly aged after months of lying and deflection. Those whose eyes feign delight as they dutifully clap in the front row of his speeches in an attempt to gain favor with him. Those who tweet Pepe memes at him. Those nearby sycophants and far-flung self-identified deplorables. Those are the people he loves, those are the people he rewards. He is with them.
In Trump’s America, everybody else can go fuck themselves.
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Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*

Postby MacCruiskeen » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:55 pm

[quote="Wombaticus Rex » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:59 pm
Edit: per the notion SLAD runs some Irish terror regime that intimidates everyone into silence, well, I am skeptical on that front[/quote]

Well, you're sceptical about a fantasy you invented yourself, for SLAD is not Irish but American. (See: Plastic Paddies). Personally, I suspect she is no more Irish than Vladimir O'Putin, but who cares anyway, certainly not the Irish (or the Russians). In any case: From Bono to Samantha Power to Michael O'Leary, there's no shortage of Hibernians, plastic or real, who bring nothing but dishonour on the Oul' Sod. As Senator Chucky R. Lá so rightly said, in a recent speech to the Dáil: "Let us do everything in our power to prevent such gobshites from blackening our nation's name."


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Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:59 pm

Carl Bernstein: Republican Officials Are Openly Questioning President Trump's Stability and Maturity
Trump's "psyche is not a pretty place," Bernstein told CNN.
By Alexandra Rosenmann / AlterNet January 26, 2017

While only in office since Friday, President Donald Trump is already proving to be emotionally unstable, even to members of his own party. After boasting about his inauguration crowd size at the CIA headquarters, Trump doubled down on debunked voter fraud theories; still believing that "three million" Californians voted illegally.

According to Carl Bernstein of Watergate fame, Trump's behavior is both unprecedented and highly disconcerting.

“It is unlike anything that I have seen in 50 years of being a reporter,” Bernstein said during a CNN Tonight appearance with Don Lemon.

"I am hearing from Republicans, and other reporters are as well, that there is open discussion by members of the President of the United States’ own party about his emotional maturity, stability," Bernstein added.

The veteran journalist also warned CNN about becoming consumed with Trump's social media, rather than his actual policy.

“People are saying his psyche is driving the news cycle,” said Bernstein, who believes something very disturbing is going on.

"I talked about the tweets [on a separate CNN panel] being an MRI of his psyche. These remarks are likewise an MRI of his psyche, and it’s not a very pretty place,” Bernstein remarked.

In addition to perpetuating conspiracy theories and "alternative facts," the Trump administration faces cricism from Republicans for lack of toughness on Russia and renegotiating NAFTA (North American Free Trade Agreement). But the later has been obscured due to Trump's psychological grip on the media.

“We are in uncharted territory here and we ought to talk to some of our colleagues about what they are hearing," Bernstein noted. "I’ve never heard [people] talking about a president… the way this subtext is now a talking point.”

http://www.alternet.org/media/watergate ... -uncharted






An anti-secrecy group is suing the CIA to reveal what it actually did about the Trump “golden showers” dossier

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January 25, 2017
The world learned the term “golden showers” on Jan. 10 when a private intelligence agent’s unverified report documenting now US president Donald Trump’s sexual and financial activities in Russia during the last five years was widely publicized on Jan. 10.
On Jan. 23, a White House correspondent and a Washington, DC-based anti-secrecy non-profit group sued US intelligence agencies, demanding to see the internal two-page summary of the infamous report—the same synopsis reportedly shown to Trump—and to know what was done to investigate the allegations contained in it.
According to their filing, the plaintiffs became aware of the synopsis when CNN reported on Jan. 10 that Trump had a “sensitive debriefing” with senior intelligence community officials about Russian interference in the 2016 election. He was also reportedly provided with a two-page synopsis of the so-called “dossier.”
The complaint was filed in federal court in Washington, DC by Politico’s Josh Gerstein and the James Madison Project, which promotes openness in government and aims to educate the public about intelligence activities. It names the Department of Justice, the Central Intelligence Agency, The Office of the National Director of Intelligence, and the Department of Defense (technically, the DoD is a defendant because it controls the National Security Agency).
The plaintiffs are demanding immediate action on an expedited request filed under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). Under FOIA rules, the agencies had 10 days to respond to the expedited request, but, the complaint says, they did not. In addition to seeking the two-page summary of the unverified report prepared for Trump, the plaintiffs also want to see what agencies did to investigate the claims and ensure the new US president isn’t a threat to national security.
“President Trump’s expansive financial connections (much of the details of which remain private) already had raised significant concerns regarding potential exposure to foreign influence, and arguably are implicated by the unverified claims contained in the 35 page ‘dossier’ (and, most likely, the two page synopsis),” the complaint states.
Buzzfeed was the first to publish the full dossier, noting that it includes “unverified, and potentially unverifiable allegations of contact between Trump aides and Russian operatives, and graphic claims of sexual acts documented by the Russians.”
The lawsuit filed by Gerstein and the James Madison Project seeks verification. Their complaint states, “This lawsuit ultimately will seek to secure not only a copy of the two-page synopsis, but will also flesh out the extent to which the Intelligence Community had investigated the veracity (or lack thereof) of the claims in the 35-page dossier prior to creating the two page synopsis.” Their filing was reported by Courthouse News on Jan. 25.
The plaintiffs are asking government agencies in possession the records to release “investigative files relied upon in reaching the final determinations” that the report was not problematic for the US or its new president because “the possibility of one or more of the allegations being accurate raises significant concerns about possible exposure President Trump has to foreign exploitation or blackmail.”
https://qz.com/894593/an-anti-secrecy-g ... s-dossier/
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Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:01 pm

eeeeeewww........low blow....when you ain't got nothin' go LOW :P

personal insults that's all you got Mac...but keep it up you are so very entertaining I was so bored ..thanks for returning to insult me and bringing some humor into my life :yay


MacCruiskeen » Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:55 pm wrote:[quote="Wombaticus Rex » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:59 pm
Edit: per the notion SLAD runs some Irish terror regime that intimidates everyone into silence, well, I am skeptical on that front


Well, you're sceptical about a fantasy you invented yourself, for SLAD is not Irish but American. (See: Plastic Paddies). Personally, I suspect she is no more Irish than Vladimir O'Putin, but who cares anyway, certainly not the Irish (or the Russians). In any case: From Bono to Samantha Power to Michael O'Leary, there's no shortage of Hibernians, plastic or real, who bring nothing but dishonour on the Oul' Sod. As Senator Chucky R. Lá so rightly said, in a recent speech to the Dáil: "Let us do everything in our power to prevent such gobshites from blackening our nation's name."


Combating Irish terrierism[/quote]
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Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*

Postby Iamwhomiam » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:04 pm

Karma, sorry you lost your post. I know that pain well.

Willow, thanks for posting that video. It's something I probably wouldn't have come across and hesitated before deciding to watch it. I'll be recommending Frank's book to some of my friends who are still in shock over Trump's defeating Hillary, but some will already be aware of it, as most are prolific readers. While applauding Clinton's balancing of the federal budget, one cannot overlook the tremendous shift to the right he brought the party.

These great disappointments (the 5 listed by Frank) have little impact upon many but the poor some have wrongly thought, and they blame the right for those they feel have a more direct negative impact upon them. Many have become wise to the fact that our nation is but a ship upon the sea, with its course dead-set on treasure, regardless the captain in command. Dead ahead to treasure will bring a deadly end.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:12 pm

what's the matter trumpy?

don't believe your own alternative facts?


Trump delays signing directive on voter fraud
BY JORDAN FABIAN - 01/26/17 06:20 PM EST

Trump delays signing directive on voter fraud
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President Trump scrapped plans on Thursday to a sign directive to move forward with an investigation into his unsubstantiated claims of widespread voter fraud.

White House press secretary Sean Spicer told reporters the signing was being postponed because the president was running behind schedule.

"The president got back a little late and he got jammed up on some meetings that needed to occur, and so we're going to roll all that into Friday and Saturday,” Spicer said.


Trump arrived at the White House 25 minutes later than originally scheduled from Philadelphia, where he spoke to congressional Republicans at their annual retreat.

During the flight to the summit, Spicer said Trump would sign a document that would “follow up on the announcement yesterday to better understand voter fraud.”

Trump on Wednesday called for a probe into his claim that between 3 million and 5 million ballots were illegally cast for Hillary Clinton, preventing him from winning the popular vote.

Trump’s focus on voter fraud has provoked concern in both parties.

Republicans in Congress have echoed academics, state attorneys general and even members of the president’s own legal team, who have said there is no evidence of widespread voter fraud in the 2016 election.

Democrats and civil rights groups worry an investigation could lead to a crackdown on voting rights.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... oter-fraud
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Postby Iamwhomiam » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:14 pm

"We'll just file that right there with my tax returns"
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Postby Belligerent Savant » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:37 pm

Karmamatterz » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:10 pm wrote:
It's that Trump is obnoxious. Loud. Says stupid things and makes a mockery of what we want our president to be. We project our wishes on to that office. What we got is a product of the USA and suddenly we're surprised. Obama was smooooooth. Nice look, well educated and knew how to articulate his thoughts and ideas. Trump is like the school yard bully. So it's easy to see why people don't like him, aside from his political values.

I guess it just shows that it someone so smooth as silk and delivers the messages in the right way while they steal from you and murder people its ok. No wonder why so many people loved Slick Willy Billy even while he was having fun with cigars and Monica. It's not what they do, it's how they say it and come across. It's a big magic show. If the magician is slick and smooth people applaud. If he is garish and a buffoon they shriek.


Quite right.

It's all about presentation.


Of course, certain demographics actually prefer Trump's 'presentation' over that of Slick Willie or 'Bama.

The decision was made, however, to placate the Trumpster demos this time around. Rest assured, It'll tilt back around in due time.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:12 am

“It was a declaration of war,” said Mexican political analyst Jose Antonio Crespo. “Not a military war, but a diplomatic and economic war.”


Trump may invoke national security for Mexico wall
Nyshka Chandran
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Trump is strong-arming Mexico: Expert Trump is strong-arming Mexico: Expert

As American President Donald Trump continues his headstrong quest to build a wall along the U.S.-Mexican border, many expect him to use various tactics to strong-arm his southern neighbor into paying for the anti-immigration tool.
Invoking national security could be one of them, Reva Goujon, vice president of global analysis at intelligence firm Stratfor, told CNBC on Friday.

On Thursday, the White House suggested a 20 percent tax on Mexican imports as one means to pay for the wall, estimated to cost $12-$15 billion, adding that a tax was just one solution among a "buffet of options." An import tax is set to pose major economic consequences for Mexico's manufacturing-based economy and U.S. businesses whose bottom lines rely on Mexican imports. Mexico is the U.S.'s third-largest trading partner.

"The main barrier to an import tax like that is that it could be in violation of NAFTA [North American Free Trade Agreement] or WTO [World Trade Organization] rules. And that's where the Trump team could potentially get more creative and declare this border wall as a national security issue," explained Goujon.

If that happens, the matter would have to be referred to units within the Commerce Department to decide whether it actually constitutes a national security issue, she continued.


Trump has called on Mexico to pay for the wall, but President Enrique Pena Nieto has repeatedly emphasized that his country will not do so. The tensions resulted in the cancellation of a summit, scheduled for next week, between the two leaders.

Because the national security clause is where U.S. presidents have the most leverage, Goujon expects Trump to use the provision on a number of other issues as well.

Trump's negotiating tactics may even escalate beyond an import tax, she noted.

"There's an implicit threat that the U.S. still has more room to escalate, up to and including the potential repealing of NAFTA, which Trump technically has the executive authority to do. That comes with political, economic costs and even social costs, especially if we see people mobilize around this issue."
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/26/trump-ma ... -wall.html


Dispute over border wall plunges U.S. into crisis with Mexico, as Mexican president scraps White House visit
Enrique Peña Nieto
Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto participates in a local awards ceremony at the presidential residence in Mexico City in January 2017. (European Photopress Agency)
Kate Linthicum and Tracy WilkinsonContact Reporters

One of America’s most important strategic relationships plunged to a new low Thursday when an escalating dispute over a proposed wall on the U.S.-Mexico border prompted Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto to cancel a planned visit to the White House.

President Trump has been in office barely a week, but his increasingly bitter feud with Mexico over who would pay for the new wall has left Mexican officials furious and now threatens to ignite a trade war between the two crucial allies.

Peña Nieto had been scheduled next week to be one of the first world leaders to meet with Trump. But a day after Trump issued orders to build a new wall along the U.S. border with Mexico, Peña Nieto on Thursday abruptly canceled the Jan. 31 visit.

The Mexican president’s announcement came after Trump warned him on Twitter early Thursday morning to stay home and skip the meeting unless Mexico is willing to fund construction of the wall. Not long after, Peña Nieto announced he would do just that. Mexico, Peña Nieto said, “offers and demands respect.”

Trump had his own, unique version of events.

“The president of Mexico and myself have agreed to cancel our planned meeting scheduled for next week,” he told Republican lawmakers gathered in Philadelphia. “Unless Mexico is going to treat the United States fairly with respect, such a meeting would be fruitless and I want to go in different route. We have no choice.”

Many Mexicans, meanwhile, cheered their president for standing up to the man who regularly demonized Mexico as a source of U.S. problems during the presidential campaign. Analysts said Trump’s move could be the opening salvo in a trade war.

“You cannot trust a man who hates you, who hates all Mexicans,” said Sergio Ramírez, a 28-year-old engineer in Mexico City. “Mexico must prove that we can go on without them. It's time to shut this man up."

While a presidential candidate, Trump repeatedly said he would build a border wall — and make Mexico pay for it. Mexico has countered that it would not pay for the wall, and immigration experts question whether the kind of barrier Trump envisions would even be effective. The proposal would add to the 653 miles of fencing and barriers already along the 2,000-mile border.

On Thursday, Trump’s spokesman, Sean Spicer, said the wall could be paid for by imposing a tax on imports. This would include goods such as automobiles and produce from Mexico, where the size of the trade imbalance reached $59 billion in 2015.

Spicer said the tax on Mexico alone was an option that would produce $10 billion a year "and easily pay for the wall just through that mechanism alone."

Mexico and the United States do half a trillion dollars in trade annually, and a trade war between the two would be extremely costly for consumers on both sides of the Rio Grande.

Trump’s instructions Wednesday on building the wall came as his aides met with senior Mexican officials to prepare for the Peña Nieto visit. To Mexicans, the insult could not have been more clear.

“It was a declaration of war,” said Mexican political analyst Jose Antonio Crespo. “Not a military war, but a diplomatic and economic war.”

For years, dating to the Mexican-American War in the 1840s and even before, Mexico has viewed the United States with suspicion, even hostility. The U.S. seized large swaths of Mexican land, including what is today California, and often threw its weight around in diplomacy, trade and other spheres.

A relationship of true cooperation flourished only after the 1994 North American Free Trade Agreement, and then during the U.S.-friendly government of President Felipe Calderon, who took office in 2006.

“In the 1990s, we were the best amigos,” said Genaro Lozano, professor of political science and international relations at the Iberoamerican University in Mexico City. “We were taught that the future of Mexico belonged in North America and we should consider ourselves partners in this region. That’s all gone. Trump is telling us that Mexico is on its own and we should look somewhere else.”

By alienating Mexico, Trump risks a host of problems. Mexico is one of the United States’ top trading partners, creating a market that employs millions of Americans, and is an indispensable partner in controlling illegal immigration and drug trafficking. Trump’s actions also make it more likely that China will continue to make serious inroads in Latin America, profiting from hungry markets and reaping vast mineral wealth.

Trump blames Mexico for sending legions of undesirable people into the U.S. In fact, several studies show more Mexicans are leaving the U.S. than entering. Moreover, the influx of Central American immigrants, which crested in 2015, has been subdued in large part due to Mexico patrolling its border with Guatemala.

“The only reason we don’t have a crisis at our border is because of what Mexico is doing at its [Southern] border,” said a senior State Department official who spoke on the condition of anonymity during a time of uncertain transition.

The rest of Latin America will look warily at Trump’s treatment of Mexico. Veteran diplomats point to what they see as the progress made in recent years: almost every country in Latin America is ruled by a civilian democracy, not a military dictatorship, and most have a favorable opinion of the United States, in contrast to a past when the U.S. was seen as the hemisphere’s biggest bully.

The diplomats worry, however, that such favorable trends could be reversed under Trump. Nowhere is that more important than in Mexico.

“It has taken a generation to build the relationship,” said Eric Farnsworth, vice president of the Council of the Americas, an advocacy group in Washington. “Now it has taken a new direction. This is a new day.”

Relative prosperity and stability in Latin America has been predicated in large part on increased integration and free trade. Trump seems intent on rolling that back. He already removed the United States from the Trans-Pacific Partnership treaty, of which Mexico too is a signatory, and has announced renegotiation of NAFTA. Peña Nieto’s visit was meant to be a first step in that process.

NAFTA governs an interlocking web of commerce across Mexico, the U.S. and Canada, and nurtured a sizable middle class in Mexico, a country that was mired in poverty. But efforts to renegotiate the pact will be challenged if Trump and Peña Nieto are not on speaking terms.

Mexico could retaliate by refusing to cooperate on security and immigration issues, opening the floodgate of Central American immigrants or balking at efforts to stop the northward flow of drugs.

Ordinary Mexicans on Thursday were proud of Peña Nieto’s decision to rebuff Trump.

"Trump wants to see us in the hole,” said Eugenio Arvide, 69. “But we will fight. If you want war, we will go to war.”

"It is a shame what is happening. I grew up admiring the United States, looking to them as an example of freedom, rights, and a strong economy,” said Nidia Romero, a 38-year-old graphic designer. “Trump is the worst example of Americans. There are difficult times for Mexico, but don’t forget they also lose without us.”

Albert Sosa Medina, 47, who sells cars, said, "When there are major disasters, we are always united, always helping each other. We are a united people in the face of this misfortune called ‘Trump.’”

The performance of the Mexican peso was not so sanguine. Having already lost more than 10% of its value against the U.S. dollar since Trump’s election in November, it fell further on Thursday.

Trump, in Philadelphia, again reiterated that the American people would not pay for the wall, nor would he allow U.S. taxpayers to lose money in what he called the “defective transaction” that NAFTA represented. His solution for the wall would be tax legislation that would reduce the trade deficit and increase American exports.

That would be part of a larger legislative agenda that Trump said could make the Republican-led Congress the busiest in decades, or "maybe ever."

In Mexico City, Mario Lara, a 52-year-old merchant, said it’s time for Americans to stand up to Trump. “We’ve had enough of our countrymen being treated badly,” Lara said. “The Americans are aware of everything Mexicans do contribute to their country, and they should put a stop to their president. "

"I want to tell Trump that we are not afraid of him, we know that his country is very strong and powerful, but we Mexicans have dignity and we are not afraid,” Lara said.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-fg-us- ... story.html
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Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*

Postby 82_28 » Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:51 am

Comment at rawstory:

The next standing order from President Bubbles Frump will be to never start the rotors until he's already boarded Marine One.

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I know it's overused but damn his hands are really small. It is inexplicable how he has gotten away with his hair for so long.
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Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*

Postby Cordelia » Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:45 am

^^^
Reminds me of
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Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:55 am

trumpy the great negotiator


Mexico wall: Trump condemned over imports tax proposal

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38766662


Mexicans Launch Boycotts of U.S. Companies in Fury at Donald Trump
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http://time.com/4651464/mexico-donald-t ... -protests/


Donald Trump’s Mexico Tantrum
Leer en español
By THE EDITORIAL BOARDJAN. 26, 2017


Credit Doug Chayka
Less than a week into the job, President Trump on Thursday raised the specter of a trade war with America’s third-largest partner, Mexico, as the White House warned that the United States could impose a 20 percent tariff on Mexican imports.

This absurd threat, issued as a proposal to cover the cost of a border wall, came just hours after President Enrique Peña Nieto of Mexico canceled a visit to the United States. The visit was supposed to improve the relationship between the two countries, deeply strained by Mr. Trump’s relentless scapegoating of Mexicans during his presidential campaign. But Mr. Peña Nieto decided he’d heard enough after Mr. Trump issued executive orders on Wednesday to begin rounding up unauthorized immigrants and building his border wall.

The tariff tantrum was the latest in a head-spinning torrent of lies, dangerous policy ideas and threats from the White House since Mr. Trump was sworn in last Friday. They have underscored just how impulsive and apparently ignorant the new occupant of the Oval Office is of international economic and security relationships that serve American interests. His advisers appear unwilling to rein in his impulses or, as in the case of the tariff, hapless as they struggle to tamp them down.

It’s hard to tell whether the animus Mr. Trump has conveyed toward immigrants, particularly Mexicans, is deeply felt, or if he simply came to recognize how powerfully it would appeal to voters disaffected by an uneven economic recovery and the nation’s demographic changes.

But allowing this view to drive trade and foreign policy toward Mexico could have disastrous consequences for workers and consumers in both countries, given how tightly intertwined the two economies have become since the North American Free Trade Agreement went into effect in 1994.

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Nafta eliminated most tariffs and other trade barriers among Canada, Mexico and the United States, creating a continent-size market. The agreement led to production chains for cars, planes and other items that straddle borders and provide millions of jobs. Work that requires cheaper labor typically occurs in Mexico, where earnings are lower, while design, engineering and advanced manufacturing tends to take place in Canada and the United States.

Imposing a tariff on Mexico would mean pulling out of Nafta, a move that would severely disrupt the flow of parts and goods across North America and stall production in factories in the United States and Canada. It also could lead to shortages of fresh vegetables and fruits in American grocery stores and drive up the cost of many other consumer goods from Mexico. Mexico’s economy, which is hugely dependent on American trade, would be devastated. But American businesses and workers would stand to suffer immediate harm as well. Mexico would retaliate with tariffs of its own. And no matter how Congress tried to structure the tariff, which would require legislation, it would probably still violate World Trade Organization rules.


Mr. Trump has pointed to America’s trade deficit with Mexico as a sign that the United States is being swindled. Trade with Mexico — imports to the United States totaled $296 billion in 2015 — benefits America by lowering the cost and increasing the availability of goods, like avocados and mangoes in winter. While the trade deficit with Mexico has resulted in job losses in some industries (possibly about 700,000 jobs in the first 16 years), a 2014 study estimates that 1.9 million American jobs depend on exports to Mexico. And trade, by raising wages and the standard of living in Mexico, is a big reason that illegal immigration from Mexico has dropped steadily over the years.

Sending the Mexican economy into a tailspin is the surest way to reverse that trend, which historically has been driven by market forces, and has never been deterred much by fences or walls. Besides, a tax on Mexican imports would be paid by American consumers and businesses that buy those goods. Americans would pay for the wall, not Mexicans.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/26/opin ... ntrum.html


Donald Trump’s presidency is about to hit Mexico
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With a protectionist entering the White House, Mexico ponders its options
Jan 14th 2017, 00:00

WHEN an asteroid hit Earth 66m years ago, wiping out the dinosaurs and 75% of plant and animal species, it hurt Mexico first. Donald Trump’s inauguration is far less frightening, but Mexicans can talk of little else.

Outside a massive Volkswagen (VW) factory in Puebla, two hours’ drive from Mexico City, workers fret about Mr Trump’s threats to whack big tariffs on cars made in Mexico. One American carmaker—Ford—cancelled plans to build a $1.6bn plant in San Luis Potosí, some five hours farther north. It may have had other reasons for doing so, but workers in Puebla are not reassured.

“We’re frustrated,” says Ricardo Méndez, an equipment repairman who works for one of VW’s suppliers. He had expected his employer to send him to work at the new Ford plant. Between bites of spicy chicken taco, Santiago Nuñez, who works for another VW supplier, vows to boycott the American carmaker.

The anger and bewilderment in Puebla is felt across Mexico. Mr Trump’s promises to make Mexico pay for a border wall, deport millions of illegal immigrants and rip up the North American Free-Trade Agreement (NAFTA) were among the few consistent policies in his largely substance-free election campaign. He has not lost his taste for Mexico-bashing. In a press conference on January 11th, his first since July, Mr Trump repeated his claim that Mexico is “taking advantage” of the United States. Mexicans can only wait and wonder how he intends to act on that misguided notion.

The Trump presidency streaking toward Mexico is already causing problems. Inflation has started rising in response to the devaluation of the peso caused by his election. The central bank raised interest rates five times in 2016; it will probably have to continue tightening. After a sharp rise in public debt as a share of GDP over the past several years, the government must curb spending.

Over the past few months economists have lowered their forecasts for GDP growth in 2017, from an average of 2.3% to 1.4%. On January 1st the government cut a popular subsidy by raising petrol prices by up to 20%. Six people died in the ensuing protests.

If Mr Trump declares economic war, things could get much worse. The economy could stumble into recession, just as Mexico is preparing for a presidential election in 2018. Mr Trump’s pugilism increases the chances that Andrés Manuel López Obrador, a left-wing populist, will win. He would probably counter American protectionism with the sort of self-destructive economic nationalism to which Mexico has disastrously resorted in the past. Vital reforms of energy, telecoms and education, enacted under Mexico’s current president, Enrique Peña Nieto, might be reversed.

Mexican officials think the Trump presidency poses two main dangers. The first is that the United States will renounce NAFTA, which it can do after six months’ notice, or simply shred it by putting up trade barriers. The second is that, as a way of forcing Mexico to pay for the wall, Mr Trump will carry out his threat to block remittances from immigrants in the United States. These inject some $25bn a year into Mexico’s economy.

The president-elect’s other big anti-Mexican idea, to dump millions of illegal immigrants on Mexico’s northern border, is seen as a lesser threat. Under Barack Obama, the United States deported some 175,000 Mexicans a year; Mr Trump will find it hard to increase that number. Republican plans to tax imports as part of a reform of corporate income tax would hit Mexico hard. The government sees that as a problem to be addressed by the United States’ trading partners in concert, rather than by Mexico alone.

It’s Donald. Duck!

Mr Peña’s instinct is to act as if Mr Trump is more reasonable than he seems. He showed his conciliatory side when he invited Mr Trump to Mexico City in August during the election campaign. The ersatz summit, at which Mr Peña failed to tell Mr Trump publicly that Mexico would not pay for his wall, so enraged Mexicans that Luis Videgaray, the finance minister who had suggested the meeting, was forced to quit. Now Mr Peña has brought him back, as foreign minister. But his tone has become tougher. Mr Peña now rejects Mr Trump’s attempts to influence investment “on the basis of fear or threats”.

To some, the rehiring of Mr Videgaray looks like a smart move. He is thought to be friendly with Jared Kushner, Mr Trump’s son-in-law, who is to become an adviser in the White House (on trade, among other things). Mr Trump himself praised Mr Videgaray after his sacking as a “brilliant finance minister and wonderful man”.

But Mexicans regard him with disdain. In turning to a member of his inner circle to manage Mexico’s relationship with the United States, Mr Peña missed a chance to hire someone with fresh ideas. Mr Videgaray “can have lunch at the White House”, notes Shannon O’Neil of the Council on Foreign Relations in New York, but she worries that his focus “will just be on the Oval Office”. To press its case that the United States has more to gain from working with Mexico than from walloping it, the government must talk to congressmen, state politicians and business leaders. It should also mobilise the 35m people of Mexican origin living in the United States.

Mexico thinks it has killer arguments for building on the partnership rather than destroying it. Some 5m American jobs depend on trade with Mexico; when Mexico ships goods north, 40% of their value comes from inputs bought from the United States. Officials hope that the new administration will opt for the fluffiest versions of Trumpism. Instead of repealing NAFTA, perhaps Mr Trump will renegotiate it, incorporating new standards for protecting intellectual property and the environment. Another tactic under consideration is to boost imports from Mexico’s NAFTA partners. The thinking is that reducing Mexico’s trade surplus with the United States, about $59bn last year, would give Mr Trump a victory he could sell to his protectionist supporters.

If conciliation fails, Mexico has few attractive options. In a trade war, it would suffer horribly. Raising its own tariffs would hurt its own consumers. Yet that does not mean that Mexico is defenceless. In 2009 it imposed tariffs on nearly 100 American products, including strawberries and Christmas trees, after the United States barred Mexican lorries from its roads to protect the jobs of American drivers. That got the attention of American politicians: the pro-trade lobby prevailed.

Mexican analysts are thinking about how the country might fight the next skirmish. Maize, grown mainly in states that voted for Mr Trump, will be a tempting target. The United States sold about $2.5bn-worth to Mexico in 2016. Faced with the loss of their biggest market, American maize farmers might press the White House to relent. On January 6th 16 American farming groups warned in a letter to Mr Trump and Mike Pence, the vice-president-elect, that disrupting trade with Mexico and other countries would have “devastating consequences” for farmers, who are already suffering from low prices.

For now, Mexicans are praying that Mr Trump will prove more temperate in office than during his meteoric rise. There is little evidence that will happen.





Trump Embraces Conspiracy Theorist to Promote Illegal Vote Claim
By JONATHAN WEISMAN, EMMARIE HUETTEMAN and MICHAEL R. GORDONUPDATED 9:15 AM

■ President Trump latches on to conspiracy theorist to promote his lie that millions of illegal immigrants gave Hillary Clinton her popular vote victory.

■ A Trump lie on illegal voting has morphed into a promise to investigate the nation’s voter rolls, and Democrats are very worried.

■ Philadelphia’s mayor did not take kindly to Mr. Trump’s false assertion that his city’s murder rate is “terribly increasing.”

President Trump boarded Air Force One en route to Philadelphia on Thursday. Credit Doug Mills/The New York Times
Trump latches on to ‘VoteStand,’ which may not exist

Mr. Trump is just not going to give up his claim that 3 million to 5 million illegal immigrants voted for Hillary Clinton, and he’s grasping for evidence.

On Friday morning, he looked to VoteStand, which calls itself “America’s first online fraud reporting app” for the smartphone but does not appear to actually exist beyond the Twitter account of its founder, Gregg Phillips.


The president seemed to be responding to an interview with Mr. Phillips on CNN Friday morning that was, shall we say, inconclusive. Mr. Phillips at once said 3 million illegal immigrants voted and said he is still working to prove that.


“You can reach a conclusion and still verify it,” he maintained.

Mr. Phillips began pressing his case that 3 million illegal votes were cast shortly after Election Day in November, but pressed repeatedly, Mr. Phillips has never produced any evidence. As the debunking site Snopes.com wrote:

“We scoured at least a dozen such articles for evidence to support the claim, but found none. All of them pointed back to the same source: a pair of tweets by someone named Gregg Phillips, whose Twitter profile identifies him as the founder of VoteStand (‘America’s first online fraud reporting app’).”

Mr. Phillips has been adamant on Twitter of course.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/us/p ... .html?_r=0



JAN 26, 2017 AT 10:52 AM

Trump Could Really Mess Up Mexico’s Economy
By Lucia He

A man in Mexico City reads a newspaper the day after Donald Trump’s victory in the U.S. presidential election. HECTOR VIVAS/LATINCONTENT/GETTY IMAGES
Rigoberto Valderrama Padilla has been living in San Diego for 30 years. Originally from Acapulco, Mexico, he now works for a construction company and regularly sends remittances for food and other necessities to his family back home. “This income is crucial for them. I want to help however I can,” Valderrama says. He is not the only one.

Every month, U.S. residents like Valderrama send $2 billion across the border to their families in Mexico. More than 6 million Mexicans, or about 7 percent of the adult population, benefit from such remittances, which collectively account for nearly 3 percent of the country’s economy.1
But that steady stream of cross-border cash could soon be in jeopardy. As part of his plan to make Mexico pay for a border wall, Donald Trump has said he will demand the country “make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion” if it wants to protect the flow of remittances. Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto has said repeatedly that the country won’t pay for the wall, meaning that if Trump follows through on his threats, millions of Mexican families could soon lose out on a vital source of income. (On Wednesday, Trump issued an executive order pushing forward with the wall; on Thursday, Peña Nieto said he was canceling a planned meeting with Trump in Washington.)

“There is fear among Mexican and Central American immigrants in the U.S.,” said Jesús Alejandro Cervantes González, coordinator of the Remittances Forum of Latin America and the Caribbean.2 In the face of possible restrictions, remittances to Mexico reached a historic peak in 2016. In November alone, remittances to Mexico grew by 24.7 percent compared with the same month a year earlier.

Remittances, however, are just the beginning of the risk Trump’s presidency could pose to the Mexican economy. If he follows through on his proposed policies, Trump could change the calculus for doing business in Mexico, and thus endanger the economic prospects of the whole country.

Among his proposed policies, Trump has threatened to renegotiate or completely withdraw from the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and impose a 35 percent tax on businesses that ship goods to the U.S. after relocating out of the country. Either policy could be devastating for the Mexican economy.

“If Trump implements all the policies he’s been talking about, the next year to year and a half could be very complicated for Mexico,” said Jesús Peña Gonzalez, an economist and director of a manufacturing firm in Monterrey, Mexico.

Mexico’s economy has long depended on trade with the U.S., and those ties have only deepened since 1994, when the North American Free Trade Agreement lowered trade barriers between the two nations. Mexican exports more than quadrupled since NAFTA went into effect; they accounted for 37.5 percent of Mexico’s gross domestic product in 2015 (they make up just 12.3 percent of the U.S. economy), and more than 80 percent of those exports go to the U.S. Mexico is now the world’s fourth-largest car exporter, and the automobile industry directly employs almost 900,000 workers across the country.

Free trade — along with relatively skilled but cheap labor — has also drawn businesses and their investment dollars into the country. For the past two decades, Mexico has been Latin America’s second-largest recipient, after Brazil, of what economists call foreign direct investment — foreign companies building factories, buying businesses or investing in Mexican companies. In 2015 alone, Mexico received a total of $32 billion dollars in FDI, $17 billion of it from the United States.

What can look to Mexico like investment, however, can look to Americans like outsourcing — and Trump has painted a bright target on the backs of companies that send jobs to Mexico. During the presidential campaign, Trump repeatedly attacked Carrier, an Indiana air-conditioning manufacturer that had announced plans to shift production to Monterrey, Mexico. Shortly after the election, Trump and Carrier announced they had reached a deal, keeping close to 1,000 jobs in Indianapolis (the exact number of jobs saved has been questioned).

Weeks later, Ford announced it was canceling plans for a new $1.6 billion assembly plant in San Luis Potosí, and would instead invest $700 million in a facility in Michigan. The announcement took place the same day Trump threatened General Motors to move production of the Chevy Cruze to the U.S. or face a big border tax. Ford CEO Mark Fields has said the prospects of a “positive business environment under President-elect Trump, particularly manufacturing,” played a role in this decision.

Economists in Mexico see the move as part of a larger threat to the Mexican economy. “Beyond the supposed tariffs or any of his proposed anti-Mexico policies, Mexico is going to suffer the most from the anti-Mexico sentiment that Mr. Trump is promoting among American society and businesses,” said Manuel Molano, general adjunct director at the Mexican Institute for Competitiveness, a think tank. “I’m really concerned that with his art of persuasion, Trump will convince more individuals and companies to do less business with Mexico.”

Economists on both sides of the border see Trump’s threats as shortsighted. Two decades of free trade have left the Mexican, American and Canadian economies deeply entwined. Car parts made in Michigan and Ontario end up on assembly lines in Monterrey, where factories churn out cars destined for drivers across the continent. That interconnectedness has cost jobs for some workers in Detroit and other manufacturing hubs, but it has created jobs elsewhere, and brought down prices for consumers.

“NAFTA has improved the competitiveness of businesses, and it has benefited consumers in the three countries through access to better productivity and lower prices,” said Guillermo Rosales Zárate, general director at the Mexican Association of Automobile Distributors. “We can’t talk about a Mexican, American or Canadian car anymore — it’s a NAFTA car.”

While Trump’s proposed policies have yet to be realized, markets have already reacted to the uncertainty about Mexico’s economic future. Banamex, the Mexican unit of Citibank, has cut its projections for total foreign direct investment in Mexico for 2017 from $35.8 billion dollars to $25 billion. In turn, private sector specialists surveyed by the Bank of Mexico in December estimated GDP growth for 2017 at 1.6 percent — cutting the estimate they had made at the beginning of 2016 (3.18 percent) almost in half.

Currency traders are likewise signaling uncertainty about the future of the Mexican economy. The Mexican peso tumbled about 14.1 percent since Trump won the Republican nomination last July. The currency decreased by 7.7 percent on the day after the election, and hit a record low at $21.91 pesos to the U.S. dollar following Trump’s press conference on Jan. 11, when he again threatened retributions against companies that move to Mexico. (A falling peso generally indicates currency traders expect less investment and slower economic growth.)

The rapid depreciation of the peso could help Mexican exports by making the country’s products cheaper for foreign customers. But it carries its own economic risks, including inflation, which has already started rising. The Bank of Mexico expects an inflation rate of 4.13 percent for 2017 — the highest annual average since 2008. Some economists, among them Molano, estimate it could be more than double that.

The uncertainty of Trump’s policies not only impact foreign investors but also local ones. Caution seems to be the prevailing strategy among Mexican businesses — which could itself harm the economy, as companies and individuals pull back on spending.

“I’m worried about the potential for Mexico to go into a recession,” Peña said. “The expectations are very volatile, so I’ve stopped investing. There’s this negative sentiment among business owners to stand by and expect the worst.”
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They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
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Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*

Postby Iamwhomiam » Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:09 pm

Let's compare Trump's position on building a Mexican border wall and legal and illegal immigration with that of Reagan and GHW Bush.

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Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:46 pm

just like you can't prove anything and really don't care anyway :roll: but just had to bring it up to personally trash me..AGAIN
here is a photo of the Francician Friary were my great grandparents were married in Wexford Co. Wexford in 1846...I have the documentation of their birth and marriage but for sure am not going to share that with you!

whatever dude ...get over your obsession with me and move on

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MacCruiskeen » Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:55 pm wrote:[quote="Wombaticus Rex » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:59 pm
Edit: per the notion SLAD runs some Irish terror regime that intimidates everyone into silence, well, I am skeptical on that front


Well, you're sceptical about a fantasy you invented yourself, for SLAD is not Irish but American. (See: Plastic Paddies). Personally, I suspect she is no more Irish than Vladimir O'Putin, but who cares anyway, certainly not the Irish (or the Russians). In any case: From Bono to Samantha Power to Michael O'Leary, there's no shortage of Hibernians, plastic or real, who bring nothing but dishonour on the Oul' Sod. As Senator Chucky R. Lá so rightly said, in a recent speech to the Dáil: "Let us do everything in our power to prevent such gobshites from blackening our nation's name."


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