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Immigration Ban Sends Shockwaves Constitutional Crisis

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:58 pm

JFK Airport’s Namesake Would Be Sickened
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TRUMP’S ‘HEINOUS’ REFUGEE BAN CONDEMNED BY RIGHTS GROUPS
http://www.newsweek.com/refugee-ban-org ... der-549545

Trump Has Suspended Due Process for Muslims in America. This Is a Constitutional Crisis

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The United States government is certain that Haider Sameer Abdulkhaleq Alshawi does not pose a security threat to the country. That’s why it granted Alshawi, an Iraqi, a visa to come to America and join his wife and children, who had already fled and resettled in Texas. (In Iraq, the Alshawi’s family were victims of an attempted kidnapping and a car bombing because Alshawi’s wife worked for a U.S. contractor.) On Friday, Alshawi boarded a flight to New York’s JFK airport. While he was in the air, Donald Trump signed an executive order prohibiting Iraqi refugees from entering the country. When Alshawi’s plane landed, reports the New York Times, agents from Customs and Border Protection boarded it and took him into custody. They prohibited Alshawi from contacting his attorneys, who were waiting for him at the airport. The attorneys asked a CBP agent who they should speak to in order to help their client.

Mark Joseph Stern

“Mr. President,” a CPB agent responded. “Call Mr. Trump.”

As of Saturday afternoon, Alshawi is still being detained at JFK. He is one of multiple refugees—the government won’t say how many there are—with valid documents who is nevertheless being held at an airport. Trump’s expansive executive order prevents refugees, migrants, and even green-card holders from seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the U.S. (Reuters reports that green-card holders may be evaluated on a case-by-case basis.) The government’s interpretation of the order has led to the immediate and indefinite detention of people who, until yesterday, had every right to come into the country.

There are serious constitutional problems with Trump’s executive order as a whole, including its preference for one particular religion (Christianity) and its denigration of another (Islam). The courts will debate these questions over the coming months. But for Alshawi and others like him, there is a more immediate concern: a complete and total lack of due process. As a chilling ACLU lawsuit filed Saturday demonstrates, Trump’s executive order has led to the flagrantly unconstitutional detention of perfectly legal immigrants whose lone crime is their national origin and religion. It is not just morally wrong. It is illegal.

The Fifth Amendment to the Constitution provides basic procedural guarantees to individuals detained in the U.S., prohibiting the government from depriving individuals of liberty without “due process of law.” Alshawi arrived in the country lawfully, carrying the requisite documentation. Pursuant to the Immigration and Nationality Act, he now has a right to apply for asylum and have his claims processed by federal authorities. But the government did not do that. Instead, it instantly placed him in detention, without a hearing or any kind of judicial oversight, and barred him from speaking with his attorneys.

That is an unconstitutional deprivation of Alshawi’s liberty without due process of law. The federal government cannot indefinitely detain a lawful visitor without a hearing or any semblance of reasonable suspicion because the president signed an executive order. Nor, under the equal protection component of the amendment’s Due Process Clause, may the government discriminate against Alshawi because of his national origin or religion. Yet federal officers are currently ignoring these fundamental constitutional principles. And the entire illegal system is the handiwork of one man—Trump—acting far beyond the bounds of his executive authority. His is a government of men, not of laws, and it apparently has no compunction about locking up perceived enemies based solely on their identity. The very concept of due process emerged from a desire to limit the king’s ability to order unlawful arrests. It appears we are returning to the days when the head of state can detain purported threats without a whiff of evidence that they have broken a law.

One of the ACLU’s other clients, Hameed Khalid Darweesh, was freed on Saturday after Democratic representatives lobbied for his release. (Darweesh risked his life in Iraq working as an interpreter for the U.S. Army.) Alshawi is still being held, and the ACLU has requested a habeas corpus for him and “those similarly situated.” This extraordinary and uncommon relief would require the government to bring those detained before a judge and explain why they should continue to be held. When attorneys must resort to a habeas corpus petition to obtain basic due process rights for clients who have done nothing wrong other than being Iraqi Muslims, the federal government has entered dangerous territory. What is happening today is a constitutional crisis. And it may only be the start of Trump’s assault on the rights of minorities in America.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/ ... slims.html


Trump's immigration ban sends shockwaves
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics/ ... -reaction/

Trump's latest executive order: Banning people from 7 countries and more
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/27/politics/ ... index.html

Trump's immigration ban begins, permanent U.S. residents included http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/world/trump-s-immigration-ban-begins-permanent-usa-residents-included/article/484660#ixzz4X5zECu00

Legal challenges mount for Trump’s travel ban from 7 Muslim countries
https://www.yahoo.com/news/legal-challe ... 09501.html

Trump blocks Muslim refugees, America loses a part of itself
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opin ... olumn.html

Trump suspends US refugee programme and bans Syrians indefinitely
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38777437


Confusion and consternation as new 'extreme vetting' policy blocks travel from several Muslim-majority countries
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-pol ... story.html


Chaos Breaks Out in the Wake of Trump's "Muslim Ban”
Live updates.

KANYAKRIT VONGKIATKAJORN AND BECCA ANDREWSJAN. 28, 2017 1:54 PM

The impacts of President Donald Trump's sweeping order to temporarily block refugees from entering the United States and ban immigration from seven predominantly Muslim countries for 90 days were felt immediately around the world on Saturday. Multiple refugees were detained by customs officials across the country, as lawyers scrambled to file lawsuits against the Trump administration, and protesters planned demonstrations outside airports.

On Friday, Trump signed an executive order requiring immigration authorities to:

Suspend all refugee resettlement for 120 days and reduce the number of refugees resettled in the country to 50,000;
Immediately deny entry to the United States to anyone from Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Syria, Libya, Somalia, and Yemen for 90 days;
Ban Syrian refugees from resettling in the United States;
Prioritize refugee claims "on the basis of religious-based persecution, provided that the religion of the individual is a minority religion in the individual's country of nationality."
Confusion reigned as details began to emerge about just how many people might be covered by the executive order—potentially throwing hundreds of thousands of travelers into legal limbo. The State Department issued a statement on Saturday afternoon saying that citizens from the seven banned countries who hold dual nationality would also be blocked from entering the US, according to the Wall Street Journal. (The dual-citizenship restriction won’t apply to those holding US passports.) The ban could also affect some 500,000 people from those countries already in the United States on green cards or other temporary visas, according to ProPublica.


The executive order also opens the door for immigration procedures to become even more restrictive in the future. Read the full order here:

So far, 12 people have been detained at JFK airport in New York, according to CNN. The New York Times reports that passengers were turned away at airports in Dubai and Istanbul, and at least one family was ejected from a flight.

Iran issued a swift response to Trump’s ban, saying it would ban all US citizens from entering the country. "The US decision to restrict travel for Muslims to the US, even if for a temporary period of three months, is an obvious insult to the Islamic world and in particular to the great nation of Iran,” Iran's Foreign Ministry said in a statement. "Despite the claims of combating terrorism and keeping American people safe, it will be recorded in history as a big gift to extremists and their supporters." The ban would remain in place until the US lifted its restrictions on Iran, according to the statement.

Civil rights and refugee resettlement organizations are readying themselves for a fight against the order. On Friday evening, the Council for American-Islamic Relations announced it would file a lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the executive order. "There is no evidence that refugees—the most thoroughly vetted of all people entering our nation—are a threat to national security," CAIR national litigation director Lena Masri said in a press release.

The American Civil Liberties Union also filed suit Saturday morning on behalf of two Iraqi men who were already on their way to the United States and had been detained at New York's JFK airport. One, Hameed Khalid Darweesh, who had worked as an interpreter during the Iraq War, was released Saturday afternoon.

Protests broke out in New York Wednesday evening in response to leaked versions of the ban. More protests were planned across the country for Saturday afternoon.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... an-protest
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Re: Immigration Ban Sends Shockwaves Constitutional Crisis

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:26 pm

Thank you Canada..will you be accepting American refugees also?

Canada's Trudeau welcomes refugees, airline rejects U.S.-bound passenger

By David Ljunggren and Anna Mehler Paperny

OTTAWA/TORONTO (Reuters) - Prime Minister Justin Trudeau welcomed those fleeing war and persecution on Saturday even as Canadian airlines said they would turn back U.S.-bound passengers to comply with an immigration ban on people from seven Muslim-majority countries.

A day after U.S. President Donald Trump put a four-month hold on allowing refugees into the United States and temporarily barred travelers from the seven countries, Trudeau said in a tweet: "To those fleeing persecution, terror & war, Canadians will welcome you, regardless of your faith. Diversity is our strength #WelcomeToCanada."

A second pointed tweet, also timed to coincide with outrage over Trump's immigration policy, included an archive photo of Trudeau welcoming a Syrian refugee at a Canadian airport in 2015.

Confusion abounded at airports around the world on Saturday as immigration and customs officials struggled to interpret the new U.S. rules.

While Trudeau was tweeting a welcome to refugees, others on the social media platform were questioning whether Immigration Minister Ahmed Hussen - a Somali-Canadian refugee - would be able to travel to the United States under the new rules.

Hussen's office did not respond to a request for comment.

In Canada, WestJet Airlines said it turned back a passenger bound for the United States on Saturday to comply with an executive order signed by Trump on Friday. WestJet spokeswoman Lauren Stewart said the airline would give full refunds to anyone affected by the order. It did not say which country the passenger had come from.

The order would help protect Americans from terrorist attacks, the president said.

Stewart said WestJet had been informed by U.S. Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) that the ban did not apply to dual citizens who had passports from countries other than those covered by the ban: Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen.

"U.S. CBP has confirmed it is the citizenship document they present to enter the country, not the country of where they were born," Stewart wrote in an email.

In Vancouver, an employee at the American Airlines counter said one person traveling on an Iranian passport had been turned away Saturday morning.

Air Canada, the country's other major airline, said it was complying with the order but did not comment on whether it had yet denied travel to any passengers.

"We are required to ensure passengers have the required documents for entry into, or transit the countries they are traveling to," said spokeswoman Isabelle Arthur. "In the case of these nationalities, they are not permitted to enter the U.S."

A spokesman for Porter Airlines said the Toronto-based carrier will be restricting passengers from traveling to the United States from the listed countries until further notice. Porter will waive fees for changing destinations and offer refunds for canceled trips related to the advisory.
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Re: Immigration Ban Sends Shockwaves Constitutional Crisis

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:07 pm

LMFAO. Oh, Canada. That Trudeau kid will never miss a photo op no matter how incongruous
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department ... aq-new.asp

A cap of 1000 is certainly more generous than a flat freeze, of course. I expect to see Canada expand that program considerably for the PR benefits.
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Re: Immigration Ban Sends Shockwaves Constitutional Crisis

Postby Iamwhomiam » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:16 pm

It seems the Syrian refugees headed to settle in Rutland have encountered Trump's Invisible Wall.

Rutland reels after halt to refugee program
http://normangeestar.net/2017/01/27/rutland-reels-after-halt-to-refugee-program/

Rutland rallies for refugees after Trump's order
http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/local/vermont/2017/01/28/rutland-rallies-syrian-refugees-donald-trump/97140410/

In Vermont, A Town Is Divided Over Syrian Refugees
http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2017/01/26/511804932/in-vermont-a-town-is-divided-over-syrian-refugees
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Re: Immigration Ban Sends Shockwaves Constitutional Crisis

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:25 pm

Despair, confusion reign as Trump’s travel ban hits

Protesters assemble at John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York, Saturday, Jan. 28, 2017 after two Iraqi refugees were detained while trying to enter the country. On Friday, Jan. 27, President Donald Trump signed an executive order suspending all immigration from countries with terrorism concerns for 90 days. Countries included in the ban are Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia and Yemen, which are all Muslim-majority nations. (Craig Ruttle/Associated Press)
By Ellen Knickmeyer and Rachel Zoll | AP January 28 at 9:06 PM
An Iraqi pleaded for his life to President Donald Trump. A longtime New Yorker, born in Syria, wondered how he would get home from a trip abroad. Church groups, geared up to welcome refugee families, looked in dismay at homes prepared for families that may never arrive.

Despair and confusion set in Saturday among citizens of seven predominantly Muslim countries who found themselves abruptly unable to enter the United States a day after Trump signed an executive order that he billed as a necessary step to stop “radical Islamic terrorists” from coming to the U.S.

Included is a 90-day ban on travel to the U.S. by citizens of Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia or Yemen and a 120-day suspension of the U.S. refugee program.

An unknown number of travelers from those nations were detained at U.S. airports after their flights landed, including tourists, foreign students and people trying to visit friends and family.

“What’s next? What’s going to happen next?” asked Mohammed al Rawi, an Iraqi-born American citizen in the Los Angeles area, after his 69-year-old father, coming to visit his grandchildren in California, was abruptly detained and sent back to Iraq after 12 hours in custody. “Are they going to create camps for Muslims and put us in it?”

Refugee-rights groups and others immediately challenged the orders in court, and said the bans scapegoated Muslims and Arabs without making the United States safer.

Protests broke out at several U.S. airports where travelers were being detained, including a gathering of several hundred people outside San Francisco’s main airport and a raucous demonstration of at least 2,000 people at New York’s Kennedy International Airport.

A big crowd of demonstrators also gathered outside a U.S. courthouse in Brooklyn where lawyers for the American Civil Liberties Union were trying to get a judge to issue an order blocking detentions.

Trump’s order came down as Hameed Khalid Darweesh, a translator and assistant for the U.S. military in Iraq for 10 years now fleeing death threats, was just minutes away from landing at Kennedy. He was among at least a dozen people detained after their arrivals Friday and Saturday.

After lawyers for refugee-rights organizations filed emergency petitions in federal court for their release, Darweesh walked free, to the applause of sign-waving demonstrators.

“This is the soul of America,” Darweesh told the crowd and reporters, adding that the U.S. was home to “the greatest people in the world.”

Others were less lucky. Parisa Fasihianifard, 24, arrived after a long trip from Tehran, Iran, only to be detained and told she had to go home.

“She was crying and she told me she was banned to come inside and go through the gates,” said her husband Mohamad Zandian , 26, an Iranian doctoral student at Ohio State University. He was hoping to get her out of the country on a late night flight to avoid her being jailed until Monday.

Staff at U.S. agencies that resettle refugees were scrambling to analyze the order and girded for the wrenching phone calls that would have to be made to the thousands of refugees just days away from traveling to the U.S. Several staff who spoke to the AP burst into tears as they contemplated the future for people who had waited years to come into the country.

“It’s complete chaos,” said Melanie Nezer, policy director for HIAS, one of nine refugee resettlement agencies that work with the U.S. State Department.

The International Refugee Assistance Project, which aids foreign nationals targeted for their work for the U.S. government as well as other refugees, was sending the same message to asylum-seekers, most of them who had been waiting for years.

Meathaq Alaunaibi, also a refugee from Iraq, was hoping to soon be reunited with her twin 18-year-old daughters who are in Baghdad. Alaunaibi, her husband, a son and another daughter were settled last August in Tennessee, as the twins completed their government review to enter the U.S. After Trump signed the order, she spoke by phone with her daughters.

“They are so worried and afraid because they’re stuck there in Baghdad,” Alaunaibi said Saturday. “They are young and they are strong, but I am crying all the time. I miss them.”

An Iraqi in Mosul, an Iraqi city where the Islamic State group had seized control, despaired at word that what he had thought was an imminent flight to safety in America was now canceled, indefinitely.

“If you can write to Mr. Trump or find any other way to help me reunite with my family, please, I am dying in Iraq, please,” the man, whose identity was withheld because he is still in danger in Iraq, wrote back to his U.S. lawyer by email.

The order also hit longtime, legal U.S. residents traveling abroad.

Kinan Azmeh, a clarinetist born in Syria who has lived in the U.S. for 16 years, left his home in New York City three weeks ago for a series of concerts that included a date with cellist Yo-Yo Ma. Now, he doesn’t know if he will be able to return home.

“I don’t know what’s going on,” Azmeh told The Associated Press by phone Saturday from Lebanon. “It is home as much as Damascus,” he said of New York City. “I really don’t know how to react.”

Before Trump signed the order, more than 67,000 refugees had been approved by the federal government to enter the U.S., said Jen Smyers, refugee policy director for Church World Service. More than 6,400 had already been booked on flights, including 15 families that had been expected over the next few weeks in the Chicago area from Ethiopia, Eritrea, Iran, Syria and Uganda.

The bulk of refugees entering the U.S. are settled by religious groups, who organize churches, synagogues and mosques to collect furniture, clothes and toys for the refugees and set up volunteer schedules for hosting duties. All that work ground to a halt after Trump signed the order.

In Massachusetts, Jewish Family Service of MetroWest had been coordinating a group of doctors, community leaders, a local mosque and other volunteers to resettle 15 Syrian families, including a 1-year-old and 5-year-old who arrived Tuesday.

Now, two fully outfitted apartments remain empty and it’s unclear when, if ever, the other refugees will be allowed to enter, said Marc Jacobs, chief executive of the Jewish service group.

Nour Ulayyet of Valparaiso, Indiana said her sister, a Syrian living in Saudi Arabia, was sent back after arriving from Riyadh at Chicago’s O’Hare International Airport on Saturday and told she couldn’t enter the U.S. to help care for their sick mother. Ulayyet said some officials at the airport were apologizing to her sister, who had a valid visa.

“My mom was already having pain enough to go through this on top of the pain that she’s having,” Ulayyet said.

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Re: Immigration Ban Sends Shockwaves Constitutional Crisis

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:47 pm

Federal court halts Trump’s immigration ban
Step one in a long fight to come

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Clarification:Stay covers the airport detainees and those currently in transit. Doesn't change ban going forward. Prev unclear tweet deleted
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Re: Immigration Ban Sends Shockwaves Constitutional Crisis

Postby Morty » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:04 am


What's the real deal on this 'Muslim ban'?

By Timothy P. Carney (@TPCarney) • 1/28/17 10:12 PM

What does this executive order do?


The Executive Order has four main policies

1) Places a 90 day moratorium on entry to the U.S. from the seven countries named in a 2015 law aimed at requiring stricter vetting for people entering from Iran or countries overrun by jihadist violence.

2) Suspends admission of refugees from any country for 120 days in order to conduct a review of the program.

3) Suspends admissions of refugees from Syria indefinitely.

4) Caps the number of refugees this year at 50,000

How does President Trump have the authority to do this?


Federal law, specifically the Immigration and Nationalization Act, gives the President pretty broad authority to block classes of immigrants from specific countries.

Here's the wording:

(f)Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President


Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.

Why those seven countries?

The Trump administration didn't come up with these seven countries. Iraq, Iran, Sudan, and Syria were listed in a 2015 and 2016 law (The "Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015" and its 2016 update adding Libya, Somalia, and Yemen). That Obama-era law (passed with overwhelming Democratic support) added extra scrutiny to anyone travelling into the U.S. from those countries.

These countries are either in near anarchy or have radical Islamic government. The argument is that we cannot trust these governments to provide the information needed to vet potential entrants.

Is it really a "Muslim Ban"?


That's a matter of taste.

The motivation for the ruling was clearly Islamic terrorism, and the first generation of this idea was Trump's idea to ban Muslims from entering the country. Every country listed in that 2015/2016 law is a Muslim-majority country.

But the order will stop immigrants from every religion. Anybody of any religion coming from these seven countries is barred for 90 days. Any refugee coming from anywhere — so this could be Buddhists, Jews, Atheists — are barred. Syrian refugees of any religion are barred indefinitely. The largest Muslim countries — such as Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, Nigeria — are not covered in the 90-day ban.

Did a judge just strike down the order?


No, a judge in Brooklyn on Saturday night put a halt to one aspect of the enforcement of the EO: Federal officials stopping people who were getting off of planes today, and in at least one case, reportedly being sent back to Syria. Deporting these people has been stayed, but going forward, no judge has blocked the enforcement of the EO in terms of denying Visas to people who want to come here.

Has anything like this ever happened before?


Yes, President Obama barred Iraqi refugees for six months in 2011.

Timothy P. Carney, The Washington Examiner's senior political columnist, can be contacted at tcarney@washingtonexaminer.com. His column appears Tuesday and Thursday nights on washingtonexaminer.com.
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Re: Immigration Ban Sends Shockwaves Constitutional Crisis

Postby Morty » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:11 am

swole alinsky ‏@boxofmillipedes 58m58 minutes ago

@Trillburne Claire McCaskill is bravely resisting by tweeting how upset this all makes her. also by voting for every Trump nominee
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Re: Immigration Ban Sends Shockwaves Constitutional Crisis

Postby Morty » Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:20 am

That sassy young woman is wearing a very used tarpaulin as a dress, in silent solidarity with the refugees! It could not be more obvious! I can see some conflict in the pipeline with her and her father. Clashing ideals. A new generation with different values and a timetable for change more urgent than even her father's!

And how could it be otherwise, with that man who stands silently, confidently, smilingly beside her, with his hand on her arse: for he is a Jewish man, and knows all too well the plight of the dispossessed. It is inconceivable that he would let the current situation go unaddressed, but allows his wife to make their statement to the people, silently, sartorially.

Pure class.
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Re: Immigration Ban Sends Shockwaves Constitutional Crisis

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:46 am

fucking grifters


trump officials are denying judges orders

I did'nt read about any protests at airports all over the world about a travel ban when Obama was president ...just sayin' WE

we know WE we know already Trump = GOOD Obama = BAD

btw Obama's daughter is at the pipeline protest....I'll take that photo op and I didn't read that in the Washington Examiner
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Re: Immigration Ban Sends Shockwaves Constitutional Crisis

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Jan 29, 2017 10:08 am

fucking trump supporters .....YOU make me puke

learn your family's history you fucking bastards

SHAME!

SHAME
Trump’s Border Patrol Defies Judge, U.S. Senator at Dulles Airport as His First Constitutional Crisis Unfolds


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... folds.html



'Complete chaos,' 1,000 calls after Trump immigrant ban hits
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017 ... /97184560/


THIS WAS NO COINCIDENCE
State Department’s mass departures confirm everything you believe about Trump — no matter what it is
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TRUMP’S MUSLIM BAN TRIGGERS CHAOS, HEARTBREAK, AND RESISTANCE
Ryan Devereaux, Murtaza Hussain, Alice Speri
January 29 2017, 2:03 a.m.
Following an executive order signed late Friday, President Donald Trump on Saturday launched a sweeping attack on the travel rights of individuals from more than a half dozen Muslim majority countries, turning away travelers at multiple U.S. airports and leaving others stranded without answers — and without hope — across the world.


Trump’s Immigration Ban Ruptures Truce with Business, as Tech Leaders Speak Out
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What the U.S. learned from turning away refugees who fled the Nazis
By Kristine Guerra January 29 at 8:00 AM
Trump's executive order on refugees, explained Play Video1:47
President Trump signed an executive order halting all refugees from entering the U.S. for 120 days, among other provisions. Here's what the order says. (Peter Stevenson/The Washington Post)
The State Department’s website boasts of the country’s “proud” history of welcoming refugees and immigrants. And for good reason.

Since 1975, the country has resettled more than 3 million men, women and children at risk of being persecuted in their home countries. That’s an average of about 73,000 a year in the last 41 years.

The United States was one of more than two dozen countries that helped draft the 1951 U.N. Refugee Convention, an international treaty designed to protect refugees in the aftermath of World War II. Its key provision: Refugees should not be returned to the country where they fear persecution. The treaty was amended in 1967 to also help those who were displaced by other crises around the world.

A little more than a week into his presidency, President Trump appears to be deviating from history, signing an executive order that bars refugees and immigrants from predominantly Muslim countries from entering the United States. The order suspends admissions of all refugees from Iraq, Iran, Syria, Yemen, Sudan, Libya and Somalia for 120 days. It also bars entry of any citizens from those seven countries for 90 days and promises priority to Christian refugees.

The order, signed Friday, resulted in a wave of panic, outrage and confusion among immigrant advocates and reports of detention at U.S. airports of people flying into the country.

One expert, James Hathaway, a law professor from the University of Michigan and an expert on international refugee law, believes Trump’s executive order is not only a departure from the Refugee Convention, but also a policy that parallels with some of the darkest areas of history.

In an interview with The Washington Post, Hathaway, author of “The Law of Refugee Status,” provided some context on where we were before and where we’re headed now.

[Trump order barring refugees, migrants from Muslim countries triggers chaos, outrage]

How big a role did the U.S. play in drafting and enforcing the provision of the Refugee Convention?

Perhaps the most important duty of the Refugee Convention is the part that says a refugee shall never be returned to a place of risk in any manner whatsoever. Before the Second World War, that duty did not apply unless we already gave refugees permission to come to the U.S. The U.S. led the effort to not turn refugees away … refugees fleeing for their lives who cannot wait for permission. The U.S. led the effort to ensure that the Refugee Convention had an unambiguous, absolutely unamendable commitment to never turn refugees away in any manner whatsoever.

The U.S. has traditionally condemned countries that refused to protect refugees based on religion and other protective grounds, and now we’re doing the same thing … That’s a complete and easy breach of the U.N. Refugee Convention.

Is Trump’s executive order unprecedented? If so, how?

I think what’s extraordinary about it is its arbitrariness. It wouldn’t be unprecedented for a country to find security risks and take measures in response to that. But the countries in the list make no sense. If you actually believe — at least candidate Trump seemed to believe — that Muslims were the problem, then this order did not bar most Muslims. Why would you leave out Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Turkey off the list?

(Some context: Sixty-two percent of Muslims in the world live in the Asia-Pacific region, according to the Pew Research Center. Indonesia and India have the largest and second-largest number of Muslims in their population, respectively. The White House has defended its action, saying the executive order is to strengthen national security and denying it targeted Muslims. Trump has said the goal is to screen out “radical Islamic terrorists.” Stephanie Grisham, a White House spokeswoman, told The Post’s Rosalind Herlderman that the list of “high-risk territories are based on Congressional statute and nothing else.”)

It appears to be a list based on speculative assessment without any regional foundation to it. That’s the first thing. The second thing is even if you have reason to believe that a threat exists somewhere, you may not paint all people from one country with the same brush. Other countries could easily say there are some Americans who are security risks to them. Would it be fair to say, therefore, that every single American is now barred? That is irrational on both grounds.

I think what’s different is it is explicitly and patently arbitrary. This one explicitly designates entire citizens of countries as unworthy of protection in the United States without any rational basis. And that’s what’s maybe new in the bluntness of the Trump presidency policy.


Demonstrators gather at JFK International Airport to demonstrate against President Trump’s executive order on Saturday in New York. (AFP/Getty Images)
[Trump signs order temporarily halting admission of refugees, promises priority for Christians]

You said there are parallels in the past. Can you talk about them?

The St. Louis Voyage … when a boat-load of Jewish refugees were turned away by Canada, the U.S. and Cuba, one port after another, as they sailed up and down the cost of North America. Ultimately, they went back (to Europe) because they were starving.

(Some context: St. Louis sailed from Hamburg, Germany to Havana, Cuba in 1939. Aboard were 937 passengers, almost all of whom were Jews fleeing from the Third Reich. The State Department and President Franklin Roosevelt’s White House decided to not let the refugees in, and that they must wait to qualify for and obtain immigration visas. Most of the passengers eventually were taken in by other European countries; researchers for the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum estimate 254 died during the Holocaust)

We know what happened when people slam doors shut to refugees. It means that innocent people whose lives are on the line ultimately perished. … That we would not read the tea leaves of history and understand that the people fleeing are the enemies of our enemy is beyond comprehension to me.

[A ship full of refugees fleeing the Nazis once begged the U.S. for entry. They were turned back.]

We’re saying that someone that we agree would be persecuted because of who she is will not get in simply because the U.S. has put her country on a list. We’ve dehumanized that person. History teaches us that whenever we treat an entire group as less than human, disaster tends to follow. We know that we don’t dehumanize people without a risk of them dying. It sets a very, very bad example.

When the U.S. began interdicting Haitians in the 1980s, sending them to international waters back to where they would be persecuted, countries in Western Africa began to follow our example and they began to interdict refugees.

(Some context: President Ronald Reagan, through an executive order, authorized the U.S. Coast Guard to intercept and turn around ships suspected of carrying illegal Haitian immigrants. A White House official said then that no refugees fleeing political persecution will be sent back, and the Coast Guard was ordered to ask Haitians whether they are political refugees. But a legal challenge brought by the Haitian Refugee Center pointed out that refugees were sent to Haiti because of flaws in screening procedures.)

[Annotated: The Trump administration’s executive order on refugees and immigrants]

How do you think other countries would respond to Trump’s executive order?

When the U.S. or when Europe acts, people watch and they learn. If the U.S. can bar refugees, then what is to stop other countries from barring Christian and Jewish refugees? Nothing. I think you could easily imagine some countries in the Middle East saying, “If you would not respect our religion, we would not respect your religion.”

I think it actually takes away U.S. moral authority to act on the international stage. … It’s tragically a repeat of an unwillingness to understand who refugee protection works.

Was there a point in history when the U.S. was more welcoming?

After the Second World War, when this Refugee Convention was drafted, the U.S. was perhaps the leading nation in the world in terms of embracing refugees as the source of strength. The U.S., to its credit, admitted a massive number of refugees and it led to our economic recovery. Every year, for decades, we have never not resettled massive numbers of refugees. That has been part of the American culture.

With the Vietnamese refugees, we did a great job helping to lead the world and to show that we’d stand in solidarity. On Syrians, we have totally failed. It’s beyond comprehension how badly we acted under President Obama. To suggest that under President Trump, that we’d do even less, is stunningly tragic
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200,000 people sign petition to cancel Trump’s State Visit to the UK, to avoid embarrassing The Queen
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Over 200,000 Britons have signed a petition demanding that the government cancels a planned State Visit to the UK by President Donald Trump.

The petition, which is one of the most signed petitions on the government’s website, says that the State Visit should be cancelled to prevent any embarrassment to The Queen.

As the petition has gained over 100,000 signatures, the matter will now be debated in Parliament.

With around 1,000 people signing the petition every minute, it is highly likely this will become one of the most signed petitions in the history of the British government.

This is not the first time Donald Trump has been the subject of debate in the British Parliament. Last year, almost 600,000 people signed a separate petition calling for the 70-year-old to be banned from travelling to the UK. It was the most signed petition on the government’s website.

Donald Trump accepted an invitation from The Queen to visit the UK later this year for a State Visit.

British Prime Minister, Theresa May, confirmed at a press conference that President Trump and the First Lady, Melania Trump, will be travelling to the country later this year.

It is likely that the President will stay at Windsor Castle, partly due to major refurbishment works that will be taking place at Buckingham Palace.

However, the plans for the visit have already submerged into chaos after a number of prominent MPs are calling for the visit to be cancelled.

The Leader of the Opposition, Jeremy Corbyn, has said that he is not happy for President Trump’s State Visit to go ahead while the controversial bans preventing people from entering the USA based on their country of origin are in place.

Speaking to Robert Peston, Mr Corbyn said: “I’m not happy with him coming here until that ban is lifted, quite honestly.”

He added: “It’s slightly odd he should be invited so quickly, particularly in view of the statements he’s made, and I suspect this visit is something that might find its way into the long grass.”

He also said that Buckingham Palace should “absolutely not rush” in making arrangements for the visit, which is expected to take place later this year.

The President is also said to be extremely reluctant to meet Prince Charles because of the pair’s differing views on climate change.

The President, who has previously said that climate change is a myth invented by the Chinese, does not want to take a lecture from The Prince of Wales who is a climate change campaigner, according to The Sunday Times.

Members of Trump’s administrative team instead want The Duke of Cambridge and Prince Harry to meet the President when he visits the UK later this year.

Speaking to The Times, a source has said: “Trump’s people are worried about an awkward moment, with Prince Charles saying ‘Why don’t you believe in climate change?’

“They do not want the President put in an awkward position where he’s being lectured. They want horses down the Mall, tea with William & Kate.

They want all that pomp and for it to go seamlessly, and one of the risk factors is Charles.”

Number 10 Downing Street have released a statement confirming that plans for the State Visit by Donald Trump remain in place.

Royal Central will be bringing you ongoing coverage on President Trump’s State Visit to the UK in the months to come.
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Re: Immigration Ban Sends Shockwaves Constitutional Crisis

Postby Luther Blissett » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:15 am

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
“Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!” cries she
With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”
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petition now has

313,313 signatures




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