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Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:35 am

Michael Moore tells Donald Trump: 'Vacate you Russian traitor'
'You are still squatting in our oval office. I gave you until this morning to leave,' says Moore

Documentary filmmaker Michael Moore has branded Donald Trump a “Russian traitor” and called for his impeachment as the scandal surrounding contact between the President's advisers and Moscow deepened.

In the wake of National Security Adviser Michael Flynn's resignation over his inappropriate contact with Moscow in recent weeks, now phone

records and intercepted calls allegedly show members of the Trump campaign had repeated contact with senior Russian intelligence agents in the year running up to the election, four US officials told the New York Times.

The claims, which have been reported by the New York Times and come from four unnamed US officials, have prompted the outspoken filmmaker to call on Mr Trump to step down. He tweeted: "Um, @realDonaldTrump -- It's now noontime in DC & it appears you are still squatting in our Oval Office. I gave u til this morning to leave."

"What part of 'vacate you Russian traitor' don't you understand? We can do this the easy way (you resign), or the hard way (impeachment)," he later added

Michael Moore ✔@MMFlint
Um, @realDonaldTrump -- It's now noontime in DC & it appears you are still squatting in our Oval Office. I gave u til this morning to leave.
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What part of "vacate you Russian traitor" don't you understand? We can do this the easy way (you resign), or the hard way (impeachment).
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Mr Moore has been an outspoken critic of the Republican President, releasing a documentary shortly before the 2016 election about the then-Presidential candidate, and he has repeatedly questioned his ties to Russia.

Reports of the Trump campaign's phone calls with Russia come the day after Mr Trump’s national security adviser, Michael Flynn, was forced for resign over conversations with the Russian ambassador to Washington and subsequent misrepresentations he gave of those discussions.

In a resignation letter, Mr Flynn said he gave Vice President Mike Pence and others "incomplete information" about his calls with Russia's ambassador to the US.

Apparently relying on this information, Mr Pence initially said the national security adviser had not discussed sanctions with the Russian envoy, although Mr Flynn later conceded the issue may have come up.

The former lieutenant general's resignation letter said that he held numerous calls with "foreign counterparts, ministers, and ambassadors [...] to facilitate a smooth transition".

It has emerged Mr Trump was told several weeks ago that Mr Flynn had not told the truth about a phone call with a Russian diplomat.

White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said firing Mr Flynn was an issue of "trust" and not whether it was a legal problem.

"The irony is President Trump has been very tough on Russia," he told reporters on Tuesday.

Sources for The New York Times did not say which individuals Mr Trump's circles spoke with Russian officials, including government members. The only name mentioned was Paul Manafort's, Mr Trump's former campaign manager who resigned after a few months over revelations that he had worked as a political consultant in Russia and Ukraine.

Mr Spicer said on Monday said "there is nothing that would conclude me that anything has changed during that time period", answering a question about whether any Trump campaign members had talked to Russian operatives during the campaign.

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer has said the firing of Mr Flynn was "only the beginning" and that the American people "deserved the truth".
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Postby Iamwhomiam » Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:14 pm

Watch Trump single handedly blow the Middle East apart when he endorses a one state 'solution' for Israel with Jerusalem as its capitol, a reversal from our long-standing position of a two-state solution, with Jerusalem a city divided but shared equally with Palestine, although I would prefer it an international city not under the control of either state.

(I really do wish the UN could come down on Israel for its expansionist policies and illegal taking of lands of Palestinians in clear violation of UN dictates.)
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Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Feb 15, 2017 2:38 pm

Trump: Flynn treated badly by 'fake media'
BY JORDAN FABIAN AND LISA HAGEN - 02/15/17 12:30 PM EST 1,434

President Trump said Wednesday his ousted national security adviser Michael Flynn was treated "unfairly" by the "fake media."

At a joint press conference with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Trump blamed Democrats and leaks by the intelligence community for Flynn's resignation over his conversations with Russia.

Wednesday’s comments are Trump's first in-person reaction to Flynn's resignation.

“I think he’s been treated very, very unfairly by the media — as I call it, the fake media, in many cases,” Trump said at Wednesday’s press conference. “I think it’s really a sad thing he was treated so badly.”

Trump doubled down on his condemnation of the leaks from the intelligence community following reports that Flynn misled senior officials in the White House about his conversations with Russia.

“It’s criminal action, a criminal act and its been going a long time, before me,” Trump said about the leaks. “But now it’s really going on.”

“People are trying to cover up for a terrible loss the Democrats had under Hillary Clinton.”

In the wake of Flynn’s resignation, the New York Times reported Tuesday night that intercepted phone calls and phone records showed several aides and allies to Trump’s campaign were frequently in communication with senior Russian intelligence officials.

The report noted that it doesn’t show collaboration between the two in regards to the email hacking of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Clinton campaign officials.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:09 pm

THE RIGHT WING
Trump Has Surrounded Himself With a Phalanx of White Nationalists

There is a gallery of Steve Bannon, Stephen Miller, Michael “Decius” Anton. Who is next?
By Chauncey DeVega / Salon February 14, 2017

Donald Trump’s administration is built around a brain trust of white nationalists. To deny that fact is to ignore a crucial element of this national crisis: America’s “greatest generation” defeated Nazism during World War II, and 70 or so years later one of the country’s two leading political parties has injected a more polite version of that poison into its veins and rode to power in Washington on a wave of bigotry and racism.

Among the men who have President Trump’s ear, we find White House strategist Steve Bannon, senior adviser Stephen Miller, deputy assistant to the president Sebastian Gorka and newly installed Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

Until recently Bannon ran the right-wing website Breitbart News, which has a well-known white nationalist tilt and loves to publish stories about “black crime” and “Muslim hordes” beating down the gates of “Western civilization.” As Bannon has said, Breitbart functions as a mouthpiece for the “alt-right,” which largely serves as a rebranding label for various white nationalists and white supremacists.

Miller, who made headlines over the weekend defending Trump’s false claims of “voter fraud,” is a fierce advocate of “ethno-nationalism,” meaning the racist belief that Europe and America must protect their culture and civilization (which are white by default) from outsiders who do not share their “Judeo-Christian values.” Miller echoed those talking points on Sunday talk shows, claiming that “millions” of “illegal aliens” voted against Donald Trump in the 2016 presidential election.

As a college student, Miller worked on political projects, according to news reports, alongside his classmate Richard Spencer, one of America’s most prominent white supremacists.

Sessions has been viewed as a racist in his home state of Alabama for decades. He has said that the NAACP is an “un-American” organization, is said to have insulted a black attorney calling him “boy,” has backed laws that make it more difficult for African-Americans to vote, and once joked that he thought the Ku Klux Klan was “all right” until he learned that some of its members smoked pot. Sessions’ racial views are so extreme that he was earlier denied a federal judgeship by his fellow Republicans in 1986.

In his role as the attorney general and leading law enforcement official of the United States, Sessions will now be tasked with defending the civil rights of racial minorities and other vulnerable populations. History is not always a story of progress. The office of the attorney general was instrumental in fighting the Ku Klux Klan and its threat to African-Americans during Reconstruction, under President Ulysses S. Grant. Under Trump, the attorney general is a man who apparently does not view protecting civil rights as a priority.

When the Trump administration recently refused to acknowledge how Jews were the primary and specific targets of the Holocaust, it was White House deputy assistant Gorka who called the controversy over that decision as “asinine.” Perhaps it is no coincidence then that Gorka — who was born in London to Hungarian émigré parents — has repeatedly been photographed wearing a medal associated with the Order of Vitéz, an overtly anti-Semitic chivalric organization that collaborated with the Nazi regime during World War II.

Writing for Policy Mic, Tom McKay offered some additional context on the order’s founder, Miklós Horthy:

Horthy, the Hungarian regent that [the order] supported, held a profound animus for the Jews of Hungary. “Concerning the Jewish question, for all my life, I have been an anti-Semite,” Horthy once wrote. His government allied with Adolf Hitler’s Nazi Germany, enacted anti-Semitic laws, brutally cleansed Hungarian Jews, enslaved others in work details and collaborated with German authorities to deport them to death camps.

“Many supporters of the Horthy regime were enamored by the Nazis and Hitler, and the ‘knights’ were especially so,” Balogh told LobeLog. “After 1948, one wouldn’t have bragged about his father being a ‘vitéz.’ Lately, however, especially since 2010, it has become fashionable again to boast about such ‘illustrious’ ancestors.”

In keeping with his white nationalist affinities, Gorka is also hostile to Muslims and served in a senior role at the website Breitbart.

Michael Anton, a former George W. Bush speechwriter, is the newest addition to Trump’s white nationalist brain trust. Now a policy aide at the National Security Council, Anton is best known under his nom de plume, Publius Decius Mus, for writing the pro-Trump manifesto “The Flight 93 Election.”


Before that article went viral, Anton published an earlier essay called “Toward a Sensible, Coherent Trumpism.” In it, he defended the anti-Semitic America First movement of the pre-World War II years, with an obvious eye toward Trump’s repurposing of the phrase. Anton elaborated further on that theme:

[One] source of Trump’s appeal is his willingness — eagerness — gleefulness! — to mock the ridiculous lies we’ve been incessantly force-fed for the past 15 years (at least) and tell the truth. “Diversity” is not “our strength”; it’s a source of weakness, tension and disunion. America is not a “nation of immigrants”; we are originally a nation of settlers, who later chose to admit immigrants, and later still not to, and who may justly open or close our doors solely at our own discretion, without deference to forced pieties. Immigration today is not “good for the economy”; it undercuts American wages, costs Americans jobs, and reduces Americans’ standard of living. Islam is not a “religion of peace”; it’s a militant faith that exalts conversion by the sword and inspires thousands to acts of terror — and millions more to support and sympathize with terror.

This is a crystallization of the political worldview that drives Donald Trump’s fascist and authoritarian movement as well as conservatives more generally.

Of course, Anton’s analysis is factually challenged. There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. An extremely small percentage of them have committed acts of terrorism. By contrast, at the Ku Klux Klan’s height of power during the 1920s, about 15 percent of the eligible white male adult population were members. As reported by the Pew Research Center, that figure is higher than the level of support given ISIS by respondents in 11 countries with significant Muslim populations.

Islam is not a “foreign” religion. African slaves brought Islam to the Americas almost 400 years ago. Christian “dominionists,” Christian nationalists and other right-wing evangelicals have a good deal in common with Muslim extremists: They also believe in an “end times” eschatological battle between good and evil and believe that public policy should be directed toward serving that goal. Christian and Muslim extremists also do not believe in a barrier between church and state. Both groups consider homosexuality as sinful, are overtly hostile to LGBT rights and view women’s equality as a threat.

Social scientists have demonstrated that diversity is a net gain for productivity, problem-solving and overall economic growth. Moreover, economists have shown that racial and gender discrimination in the labor market costs the U.S. economy hundreds of billions of dollars.

Immigration has also been a net gain for the U.S. economy and allowed the country to grow and remain globally dominant while more homogeneous societies like Japan have stagnated. Labor performed by immigrants (both documented and otherwise) subsidizes the American standard of living by lowering food and other costs.

Anton’s observation about the United States being a “settler society,” however, is accurate and worth a closer look. As pointed out by political scientist Samuel Huntington and others, contrary to popular myth, America is not a nation of immigrants. Rather, the United States is a society where new arrivals (largely meaning white Northern Europeans) exterminated the existing population and then forced their culture on the survivors. These settlers then constructed a hierarchy whereby they were dominant and others — enslaved Africans, Native Americans and successive waves of immigrants, especially those of color — were oppressed. This arrangement is known as “racial settler colonialism.” The United States fits this model, as do other nations like Australia, Brazil and Israel. For Anton, such a history is not problematic but rather ideal.

Anton, Bannon, Gorka, Miller and Sessions find themselves in the upper stratum of decision-makers, shaping public policy for a racially diverse and multicultural society. They view such attributes as weaknesses instead of strengths. This does not bode well for the American people as a whole — especially those of us on the other side of the color line.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:44 pm

Donald Trump has only taken questions from the conservative media in the last 2 weeks

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The 3 Trump-Russia scandals, explained
Updated by Zack Beauchamp@zackbeauchampzack@vox.com Feb 15, 2017, 2:40pm EST

It’s starting to look like President Trump has a Russia problem.

Late on Tuesday night, the New York Times reported that members of Trump’s campaign team and other “Trump associates” had “repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials” prior to the November vote. The calls were intercepted by US officials monitoring Russian intelligence, who then leaked their existence to the Times.

The report cautions that there’s no evidence the Trump staff discussed Russian interference in the election — or that they even discussed Trump at all — and it doesn’t disclose whether any current administration officials were among the staffers who had been in contact with Russia.

But still. A campaign team having regular contact with a hostile foreign power is highly unusual, to put it mildly. Yet since the Times report doesn’t explain what they actually talked about, it ends up raising more questions than it answers.

So what do we know, exactly, about the scandals surrounding Trump and Russia? A fair amount — a disturbing amount, actually.

That’s because there isn’t just one scandal involving Trump and Russia: There are, roughly, three different allegations, which are connected but are each more or less distinct. One centers on Russia’s interference in the election, another centers on just-resigned National Security Adviser Michael Flynn’s improper contact with the Russian ambassador after the election, and a third involves potential blackmail material Russian intelligence may or may not have on the president.

The US government is currently investigating each of these scandals, but none are proven. There are varying degrees of public evidence for each of them.

Individually, the mere hint of any one of these scandals would be bad. Put together, though, they point to one inescapable conclusion: Trump’s unprecedented friendliness with Russia’s dictator and willingness to tolerate staff with close Russia ties has already thrown his young administration into chaos. None of this would be happening if Trump hadn’t decided to buddy up with Vladimir Putin.

Trump made his bed. And now his entire administration is lying in it.

Scandal 1: Did the Trump campaign collude with Russia against Hillary Clinton?
Donald Trump Gives Speech On Presidential Election In New York
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This first scandal really got going after we found out about the hack of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) in June 2016. Suspicion fell on Russia almost immediately, given Trump’s pro-Russian approach to foreign policy and Russia’s long history of interfering in Western elections. As emails hacked from Clinton allies continued to leak to the press in a way that seemed designed to damage her campaign, these suspicions grew stronger.

At this point, the evidence that Russia is responsible is pretty conclusive. Private cybersecurity firms and researchers have linked some of the code in the hack to known Russian operations; there’s consensus in the US intelligence community that Russia’s operation was designed in part to help Trump.

So here’s the million-dollar question: Did Trump, or anyone on his team, know about the hack targeting Clinton while it was going on? And did they plan their campaign strategy, which centered on “Crooked Hillary” and her emails, around Russian interference?

There’s long been circumstantial evidence to support this. In August, longtime conservative political operative and close Trump confidant Roger Stone said that he was in touch with WikiLeaks, the source through which Russia released the hacked emails to the public. On October 2, Stone sent a tweet hinting he had inside knowledge that WikiLeaks was about to torpedo Clinton’s campaign:


Five days later, on October 7, WikiLeaks released the first tranche of emails hacked from top Clinton aide John Podesta.

Paul Manafort, who was Trump’s campaign manager at the time the first emails went public, also has longstanding ties to the Russian state. He resigned in late August — right in the middle of the campaign — after a secret ledger was discovered with his name in it, suggesting he had quietly received $12.7 million between 2007 and 2012 from Ukraine’s pro-Russian former president, Viktor Yanukovych.

Manafort was the only Trump official identified by name in Tuesday’s New York Times report, though he denied the allegations.

“I have never knowingly spoken to Russian intelligence officers,” Manafort told the Times reporters. “It’s not like these people wear badges that say, ‘I’m a Russian intelligence officer.’”

Trump himself seemed to encourage Russian involvement in the election. In a July 2016 press conference, his final presser of the campaign, Trump publicly called on Russia to hack Clinton and publish emails from her private server.

"Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing," Trump said. "I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press."

Finally, after the campaign was over, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov publicly admitted that members of Trump’s “entourage” were in touch with Russia. “I cannot say that all of them, but quite a few have been staying in touch with Russian representatives,” he told the Russian news service Interfax.

Put this all together and two things become clear. First, an unknown number of Trump campaign operatives and Trump-adjacent people were in touch with agents of the Russian government. Second, the Trump camp had no problem with Russian interference in the election, and at times seemed to welcome it.

What we don’t know is whether there’s a connection between those two things — that is, whether the Trump camp knew about the Russian hack while it was ongoing. There’s no confirmation, in the Times report or elsewhere, to support this.

“The officials interviewed in recent weeks said that, so far, they had seen no evidence of such cooperation,” the Times reports.

There is a smidgen of evidence outside of the calls to support cooperation allegations. A dubious dossier put together by a former British intelligence operative, Christopher Steele, claims there was an “extensive conspiracy” between Trump and the Russians to weaken the Clinton campaign. The evidence comes entirely from testimony from anonymous sources, with little identifiable corroboration, and thus is very far from conclusive.

“Source E, an ethnic Russian close associate of Republican US presidential candidate Donald TRUMP, admitted that there was a well-developed conspiracy between them and the Russian leadership,” Steele writes in the dossier. “This was managed of the TRUMP side by the Republican candidate’s campaign manager, Paul MANAFORT.”

US intelligence and law enforcement agencies are still investigating the dossier, parts of which have apparently been deemed credible, as well as the contacts between Trump associates and Russian intelligence that were identified by the New York Times. So the question of whether the American president assisted in a Russian effort to interfere with the democratic process is still very much open.

Scandal 2: Flynn lied about his overtures to Russia. Did Trump?
GOP Presidential Candidate Donald Trump Campaigns In Philadelphia
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The second Trump scandal begins after the election was over, around Christmas. That’s when Michael Flynn, Trump’s pick for national security adviser, made a series of phone calls to Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak. Flynn’s deception over what was and was not discussed during those calls has gotten Flynn fired — but the outstanding question is who else knew about Flynn’s calls and when they knew it.

On December 29, the Obama administration announced a series of new sanctions on Russia as punishment for its interference in the US presidential election. That same day, Flynn called Kislyak multiple times.

That Flynn would call Kislyak was not, itself, surprising: Like Manafort, he had longstanding ties to Russia. Flynn has spoken very positively about the prospect of partnering with Putin’s regime to fight terrorism, and repeatedly appeared on Russia’s English-language propaganda outlet, RT. Flynn was so in with RT that he had been paid to give a speech at its 10th anniversary dinner in Moscow — where he sat at the head table with Putin himself.

The timing of the call, though, was an issue. If Flynn was calling Kislyak to tell him that the Trump administration would roll back Obama’s new sanctions, then it would look like the Trump administration was attempting to immunize Russia from punishment for its interference in the US election and undermine the Obama administration, which was still in power at the time.

Arguably, doing so would have been illegal — an obscure 18th-century law, the Logan Act, prohibits people outside the executive branch from making foreign policy on behalf of the United States (though no one has ever been prosecuted under this act).

When news of the call first went public, on January 12, the Trump administration admitted that the two men spoke but denied that they spoke about sanctions. Trump press secretary Sean Spicer and Vice President Mike Pence both separately told reporters that the calls were a friendly exchange that grew out of Christmas greetings — a questionable story given that Russian Orthodox Christmas was actually on January 9, 2017.

On February 9, this narrative fell apart. The Washington Post published a story confirming that Flynn had spoken to Kislyak about sanctions on December 29, and that FBI counterintelligence agents were investigating Flynn’s contact with Russia. Two sources told the Post that Flynn had strongly implied that the Trump administration would be taking care of the sanctions.

The report also suggested that Flynn had lied to Pence personally, telling Pence he hadn’t discussed sanctions with Kislyak, thus leading Pence to give false statements to reporters.

The Post’s piece was the backbreaker for Flynn, who tendered his resignation on February 13. But it wasn’t the end of the trouble for the Trump administration.

For starters, we still don’t know whether Flynn was acting alone. It’s theoretically possible that Flynn reached out to Kislyak on his own, without consulting any other Trump administration officials, and told him not to stress about sanctions. It’s also possible that Flynn was acting with Trump’s blessing — that the Trump team knew about the call’s contents the whole time and then lied to the American people (and maybe even Mike Pence) about it.

This would be a much, much bigger scandal than the call itself — it would mean that the president or key members of his team deliberately hid the truth about the actions and policies toward Russia. Right now, there’s no public evidence either in favor or against that — but some members of Congress have called for an investigation into the issue.

“I also want to know if Flynn’s conversation with the Russian ambassador about sanctions was something that the president asked him to do ... or whether the national-security adviser was acting as a free agent, which seems implausible and unlikely,” Rep. Adam Schiff, the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, told the Atlantic on Tuesday. However, Schiff can’t really make that happen without Republican support, which House Intelligence Chair Devin Nunes seems unlikely to give.

It’s also possible that Flynn was acting alone but the Trump administration found out about his sanctions conversation before it went public — and then covered up the truth about it to save face.

In late January, acting Attorney General Sally Yates informed White House counsel Don McGahn that she believed Flynn was deceiving the Trump administration about the contents of his call to Kislyak. At this point, we don’t know who else in the administration McGahn told about Yates’s warning, or what they chose to do with that information. Trump officials are insisting that McGahn passed on the information to them quickly, but their story is confusing.

Finally, we don’t really know why Flynn ultimately resigned from his post, as the line out of the White House varies from official to official.

Spicer insisted, in a Tuesday press conference, that McGahn informed senior members of the administration back in January, and that their trust in Flynn had been deteriorating for weeks, culminating in a dismissal from Trump.

But in a TV appearance the same day, White House adviser Kellyanne Conway told reporters that the president had been “loyal” to Flynn for the whole controversy, and that Flynn himself chose to resign on Monday night to put an end to the controversy.

The most logical explanation, as my colleague Matt Yglesias explains, is that Trump did indeed fire Flynn, but did so only after the Post story exposed his lie about the sanctions call publicly. This would suggest that Trump was basically fine with Flynn reaching out to Russia and discussing sanctions — that is, McGahn’s warning didn’t really matter to him — and that it was only the negative press that forced him to get rid of Flynn.

Trump’s own comments during a Wednesday press conference suggest this is the case. He called Flynn a “wonderful man” and said that "it's really a sad thing" that Flynn was treated “very, very unfairly” in press accounts of his actions.

If that’s right, it means that Trump didn’t see Flynn’s call itself as a fireable offense, which in turn suggests that Trump at least tacitly approved of him reaching out to the Russians back in December. Which, if true, would suggest that the administration has been lying to the public for weeks.

All roads here lead back to the same thing: allegations of a cover-up. FBI counterintelligence is still investigating Flynn, to see if Russia had any improper influence over him during his time in the administration. It’s likely that this investigation, together with whatever Congress decides to do, will give us more clarity on the real nature of Flynn’s call.

Scandal 3: Does Russia have dirt on Trump?
Putin and Trump
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This third scandal is, by far, the least supported of the three. It stems almost entirely from anonymous allegations in the Steele dossier, and involves some deeply bizarre and hard-to-believe stuff.

We know that Trump has had business dealings in Russia for years, going back to efforts to open a Trump hotel in Moscow during the Soviet era. Donald Trump Jr. said in 2008 that "Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets."

In 2013, Trump traveled to Russia to host the Miss Universe pageant. Before he went, he tweeted this:


The point is that Trump, as a result of his business interests, has spent time in the country. This where the Steele dossier starts.

According to Steele’s sources, Trump did some very naughty things during his visits to Russia — like hiring prostitutes to pee on a hotel bed that President Obama once slept in. Russian agents filmed these acts, according to Steele’s sources, and are wielding them to blackmail Trump into taking pro-Russian policy positions.

"Russian regime has been cultivating, supporting and assisting TRUMP for at least 5 years. Aim, endorsed by PUTIN, has been to encourage splits and divisions in western alliance,” Steele writes. “TRUMP’s unorthodox behavior in Russia over the years had provided the authorities there with enough embarrassing material on the Republican presidential candidate to be able to blackmail him if they so wished.”

Most of this stuff is completely uncorroborated. When my colleague Sean Illing asked an ex-CIA analyst, Aki Peritz, about the memo, Peritz was deeply skeptical.

“We've no idea if any of this is true,” Peritz said. “We don't know who these sources are. It's entirely likely that they're feeding the author of this report garbage, as often happens.”

For this reason, mainstream media outlets had generally shied away from reporting on the Steele dossier — until January, when CNN reported that US intelligence services had determined that Steele and his sources were “credible.” Top intelligence officials presented a summary of the dossier to Trump in an intelligence briefing.

Sine then, investigations into the dossier’s allegations have remained ongoing.

So far, they have only been able to corroborate insignificant parts of it, like whether one Russian official talked to another on the date listed in the memo. And there’s very little hard evidence to support the allegations — especially the more salacious ones — in the Steele dossier.

What we know for sure: Trump’s weird fondness for Russia has created fodder for years of investigation
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So what we’ve got are three distinct, but connected, scandals — each unproven but credible enough that investigations from both the press and elements of the US government are ongoing. Even if no damning information is uncovered, continued press coverage will distract from Trump’s substantive agenda — and continued intelligence investigations will fuel his counterproductive, damaging feud with the intelligence community.

Basically, the Russian connection will be a problem for Trump for the foreseeable future. And it’s all his own fault.

Trump didn’t have to hire staff, like Manafort and Flynn, who had extensive and well-documented ties to the Russian state. He didn’t have to propose policies, like weakening America’s commitment to NATO, that help Russia. He didn’t have to repeatedly praise Putin in public over the course of the past several years, or call on Russia to hack Hillary Clinton’s emails.

If Trump hadn’t done these things, most of these scandals wouldn’t exist. The scandals aren’t “fake news” or an intelligence community conspiracy; they stem directly from behavior by Trump or his staff.

This is detrimental to Trump’s ability to pursue his agenda. Presidents only have so many resources and people at their disposal. Getting bills through Congress, or crafting executive orders that can survive court scrutiny, is hard work. When huge elements of the administration are busy fighting fires, dealing with damning press leaks and congressional investigations, then they don’t have time to make major policy pushes.

And these Russia allegations are, make no mistake, huge. Veteran journalist Dan Rather wrote in a Facebook post that the various controversies have the potential to become bigger than Watergate:

On a 10 scale of armageddon for our form of government, I would put Watergate at a 9. This Russia scandal is currently somewhere around a 5 or 6, in my opinion, but it is cascading in intensity seemingly by the hour. And we may look back and see, in the end, that it is at least as big as Watergate. It may become the measure by which all future scandals are judged. It has all the necessary ingredients, and that is chilling.
Handling one scandal with that kind of potential is tiring enough for an administration. Handling three separate ones at the same time — that’s exhausting, especially for a White House as famously disorganized as Trump’s.

Even if Trump survives these scandals, it’s possible his policy agenda won’t.
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Postby Grizzly » Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:56 pm

Secret Service Director Joseph P. Clancy steps down


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The director of the Secret Service, who was given the assignment of shoring up that agency in a period of crisis, is leaving one of Washington’s toughest jobs after a little more than two years.

In late 2014, President Barack Obama summoned Joseph P. Clancy, his former detail leader, back from the private sector amid a string of security breaches and employee misconduct in the agency. On Tuesday, Clancy said it’s time to retire for good. He leaves March 4, giving President Trump the chance to select a new director.
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Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*

Postby Karmamatterz » Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:59 pm

Bashing Trump Doesn’t Make You A Rebel, It Makes You An Establishment Tool

http://www.newslogue.com/debate/341/CaitlinJohnstone

It’s not a coincidence that it was the Washington Post who originally broke the story of Flynn’s phone call to Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak in one of its notorious reports from “anonymous sources” in the intelligence community, for example. WaPo is owned by Jeff Bezos, who as the fifth-wealthiest person on the planet makes Donald Trump look like a high school janitor, and who has personally received hundreds of millions of dollars directly from the CIA. WaPo has consistently been a devout mouthpiece for the political establishment, running sixteen smear pieces in sixteen hours against Bernie Sanders at the most heated and contentious period in the Democratic primaries, and running fake story after fake story fanning the flames of public hostility toward Russia. This is the Deep State at work, my liberal brothers and sisters, and it’s working against Trump, not your buddies in the Democratic party.

This is not a defense of Trump; I see Trump as largely irrelevant and very low on the list of priorities America’s political left should be focusing on. This is simply a reminder to liberal Americans that you cannot attack Trump without propping up the Democratic establishment, and you cannot prop up the Democratic establishment without supporting the oligarchs who own it. When you celebrate the Deep State’s counteroffensives against the Trump administration, you are not cool, you are not anti-establishment, and you are not a rebel. You are a tool.



It's not even fun to bash Trump any longer. It's just sadly depressing he is such a buffoon who can't keep stay off of Twitter or keep his mouth shut. I'm glad Caitlin Johnstone again mentions the Washington Post's horrible reporting which could essentially be construed as fake news. Wapo is now and have been for years a tool of the fascist state.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:04 pm

got to sign up to read that site? I think not


Caitlin Johnstone
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Dear CIA: No One Believes You - Time to Put Up or Shut Up About Russia
"No American with two braincells to rub together will ever believe anything the CIA says for any reason, because they’ve got such an extensive and well-documented record of lying to us at every turn."

"Believing something the CIA says is like trusting a meth addict with your car, and trusting the CIA when they’re working with the Washington Post is like trusting a meth addict with your car and leaving your kid in the back seat with the house keys and money for Taco Bell."

Caitlin Johnstone


why don't you take it to your CIA thread
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Postby Karmamatterz » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:16 pm

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By all means let's go to war with Russia!

The Russians must be our enemies because the Donald likes Putin! Vile Russkies!

Saw this recently when traveling.
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Sort of ironic thinking about peace. Who needs peace? We need war! Right? Isn't that the binary switch that is being flipped ON/OFF ON/OFF ON/OFF ON/OFFON/OFF

If Trump had not been elected would anybody really care about Russia right now? Except for a small handful of people that really have never liked the Soviets or Russians because of their communist slavery or the new style of Putin swagger fascism its doubtful there would anywhere near the hysteria in the media.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:30 pm

good to know that YOU know what you are doing

could't get away with personally accusing me of being an agent so you take the high road
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Postby Karmamatterz » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:30 pm

Oh, do you get to set policy now for who gets to post into which threads?

It's okay if you don't like the image of tailgunner Joe, it is sorta offensive to some folks. I remember stories my father told me of him being accused of being a communist and treated poorly because he was a conscientious objector back in the 1950's. So much right now REEKS of McCarthyism it's smelling up the place.

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It's such an attractive cover for the magazine and certainly worthy of posting again.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:31 pm

good to know that YOU know what you are doing

couldn't get away with outright personally accusing me of being an agent so you take the high road


keep it up buddy..we will see who wins this one


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Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:39 pm

The Trump White House Is Screwed, Big League
Michael Flynn's resignation is just the beginning of this major national security scandal involving Russia.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
February 14, 2017
President Donald Trump’s first national security adviser, Michael Flynn, resigned Monday night, driven out of the job after just 24 days by a torrent of leaks suggesting he lied to colleagues, who in turn lied to the public, about his pre-inauguration conversations with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak.

The leaks themselves, and Flynn’s departure, were rightly interpreted as major stories, but the theory of what motivated the leaks, and then the departure, remains unclear. Flynn has a famously hostile relationship with much of the intelligence community. Did his professional enemies simply sense an opening and take revenge? Does the Trump White House, which routinely lies to the public, really believe that lying to colleagues is a fireable offense (if and when the press gets wind of it)? Relatedly, what did Trump know and when did he know it? Does this story have anything to do with the Moscow-directed subversion campaign aimed at helping him defeat Hillary Clinton?

These are all good questions, but they point to a fairly widespread lack of clarity about what makes the reported facts of the story so damning (beyond how embarrassing it is for Trump, who only hires “the best people,” to lose one of his closest advisers in such an embarrassing way). To see why Flynn had to go, and why the story is likely to engulf more people, it’s useful to look at the Flynn-specific leaks in isolation, as if the larger story about Trump, his aides, Russia, the infamous opposition-research dossier, and so much else doesn’t exist.

In that confined universe, the story begins with an incoming administration that wants to normalize relations with Russia, and an outgoing one that has just imposed sanctions on Russia. The president-elect’s national security adviser thus conducts a little unofficial diplomacy, in a series of phone calls with Russia’s ambassador on the day the sanctions are announced, to prevent things from escalating before the transition is complete. This would perhaps technically qualify as a violation of the Logan Act, prohibiting private citizens from meddling in U.S. foreign policy. But that law seems almost entirely unenforceable, and—let’s face it—if an incoming administration thinks the outgoing one has shit the diplomatic bed, how much restraint should we expect them to show? Flynn perhaps should’ve held off, but Trump himself flouted the one-president-at-a-time convention constantly, and in much more galling ways.

The story turned into a big problem when Vice President Mike Pence and press secretary Sean Spicer told the public that Flynn and Kislyak hadn’t discussed sanctions at all. The problem, though, wasn’t—as wishfully-thinking Republicans have it today—that Flynn had lied to his colleagues, per se. It was that the discrepancy between what actually happened on the calls (which were presumably recorded by Russian surveillance) and what Pence and Spicer were telling the public left Flynn potentially vulnerable to Russian blackmail: Give us what we want, or rat you out; give us what we want, or we’ll prove the Trump administration has been dishonest with the American people.

That is reportedly what motivated the Justice Department to inform White House counsel Doug McGahn that Flynn had lied, and may thus be compromised. Per the Washington Post, “Officials [say] there was no evidence that Russia had attempted to exploit the discrepancy between public statements by Trump officials and what Flynn had discussed.” But still, the best-case, though highly implausible, scenario was that Flynn had gone rogue, acted without instructions, lied to everyone, and Trump was only made aware of that fact this past weekend; the White House had suffered a temporary breach at, but confined to, the level of the national security adviser, who has access to the country’s most highly classified intelligence.

That’s bad enough as it is. But if that version of events were somehow true, it would raise the question of why McGahn didn’t let the president know about Flynn’s vulnerability immediately, as soon as he learned of it—or, if he did, why Trump sat on his hands. If McGahn had relayed to Trump that Flynn had lied to him, putting national security at risk and exposing the administration to humiliation, you’d expect Trump to have fired Flynn in January. In the immediate term, that is why the controversy is now likely to accrete to McGahn.

But the likelier story—though Spicer denied it during Tuesday’s press briefing—is that Flynn was doing what Trump told him to do. Trump even reveled in the fact that the backchannel diplomacy had been successful.


But that would also mean he knew the version of events Pence and Spicer had relayed to the press was false.

So let’s assume Flynn just jumped on a grenade for his boss. Trump may have believed Moscow would never rat Flynn out, and may still believe Flynn will never claim—or prove—that he was just following orders. But the truth is, Trump can’t be sure his own involvement won’t be exposed. And that compromises him as well. It’s not just that Pence, Flynn, and Spicer should feel as if Trump hung them out to dry—it’s that he did so in a way that gives powerful people, perhaps even Russian intelligence officials, leverage over his administration.

The story is explosive, in other words, even when it’s walled off from other things we know: that Flynn and Kislyak were reportedly in contact not just during the transition, but before the election. That other members of the Trump team and their Russian contacts are reportedly under federal investigation, stemming from a broader investigation into Russian subversion. That those investigations are apparently significant enough that FBI director James Comey was initially reluctant to alert the White House to Flynn’s susceptibility to blackmail out of fear it would undermine the bureau’s work. That the intelligence community has corroborated certain non-sexual claims in the Trump-opposition dossier.

Flynn’s out now, and if he has information that’s pertinent to Comey’s investigation, that’s a major loose end—especially if he has his own legal trouble. But Republicans on Capitol Hill and the White House are pretending Flynn’s resignation brings the story to an end.


It’s hard to focus on regressive tax cuts if the president of your party is at the center of a major national security scandal. Republicans might be able to slow down the story with this kind of willful blindness to the significance of what just happened. But they probably can’t stop more shoes from dropping. They will be lucky if this ends with senior members of Trump’s White House and doesn’t ultimately ensnare Trump himself.
https://newrepublic.com/article/140631/ ... big-league
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Re: *president trump is seriously dangerous*

Postby Karmamatterz » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:44 pm

keep it up buddy..we will see who wins this one


LOL! Now that is funny!

You seem to think this is a competition. Yeah whatever.

You know who really wins?

THE ESTABLISHMENT.

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The Democrats, Republicans, the MilTel complex and all the their oligarch crony friends. That is who wins SLAD. Keep thinking your fellow posters here on RI are the enemy if it makes you feel good.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:46 pm

what I meant by winning is you will not destroy my reputation here as hard as you try ..it ain't gonna happen

I see very well what makes you feel good ...keep it up

oh please my fellow posters here are not my enemy and I KNOW that for a fact ...I have a lot of really good long time friends here ...10 - 13 years ...you will not change that with your little campaigning .....I do not consider you a fellow poster here and I do not take personal attacks lightly

I will continue to post whatever I want...I will link to whatever I want according to board rules..I will not accept personal attacks...and I will not let you censor me by proxy

I have known you for what you post here for a very long time

you can stop the smear campaign any time now ..it's been going on long enough

I haven't seen you link to FreeRepublic lately?

You did figure out this was an anti-fascist board finally :roll:

You really do need to lighten up on your contempt for me ....it ain't gonna get you anywhere and it is so very juvenile or maybe something else I just don't know at this point what is driving you to keep up this crappolla

To get to the truth I read EVERYTHING....and will not take your suggestion of reading less/censorship

Karmamatterz » Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:14 am wrote:Anybody grow up in Michigan or spend time in Flint? I did, it's an armpit. Am not surprised by what happened at all. If one can set aside the alleged deaths there is a bright side to this. Flint and the county may get a new water system or at least new pipes. Let's be honest, without the disaster nothing substantial would have ever been done to fix the problem.

A lot of people in Michigan look at Flint as a place to stay away from as it's depressing and run down. Bad water has brought light on an area that most could care less about around there. Sometimes things have to UTTERLY fail before they get attention.

Hey SLAD, your sig about domestic terrorism plays nicely into using the psyops lingo perpetuated by the Feds. Nice work there buddy keeping the words domestic terrorists ever present, shows the op was successful. Whoever the clever fucker was that came up with the campaign ought to be pleased.


nobody here liked it when you accused them of sucking up to the Feds....and I didn't like it either


82_28 » Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:23 pm wrote:Alright, karmawhatever. I started this thread myself because I was alarmed of the potential treatment of Mexicans. There you have it.
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