Congratulations, Stupid.

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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby KUAN » Tue May 09, 2017 9:13 pm

If we don’t bring consciousness to the shadow forces within the psyche, we will then most assuredly dream up our inner unconscious situation to play out—destructively—on the world stage as our fate.
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What Would C.G. Jung Say about Donald Trump?
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The great doctor of the soul and modern day alchemist C. G. Jung was so far ahead of his time that, more than half a century after his death,[1] he is still barely appreciated. Jung was a genius who had incredibly deep insight into the nature of the psyche, particularly how it informs and gives shape to what plays out in our world. I find myself wondering, what would Jung say about the madness currently playing out in our world if he were alive today? I can only imagine.

Jung was of the opinion that “Active Imagination,” a process in which we actively dialogue and have it out with the figures of our unconscious, was the most powerful practice he had ever come across for working with—and integrating—the unconscious. I find myself wondering, what if I were to do active imagination with Jung himself?

Upon imagining this, I immediately sense the presence of Jung. As if in possession of a priceless gift, he seems delighted at the opportunity to share his insights with someone who is open to receiving them. Rather than ghostly, his presence seems substantial, actually quite huge, and very warm. He seems professorial in demeanor, which immediately makes feel like I am in the role of student, a role I am very happy to assume when I meet someone who I consider to be my teacher, orders of magnitude wiser than myself.

Deeply wanting to take advantage of my good fortune, I try to connect by asking him if he can believe the insanity that is happening in the United States today. As if he recognizes what is playing out, Jung says, with the utmost assurance, that what is taking place is “brought about by an upheaval of forces lying dormant in the unconscious.”[2] It is as if darker subterranean powers that have been brewing in the cauldron of the collective unconscious for centuries have been unleashed into our world.

I remember that in Jung’s view what distinguishes our age from all others is that we are being forced to recognize and come to terms with the active world-shaping powers of the psyche.[3] As if hearing my thoughts, Jung comments that the psyche is “the World Power that vastly exceeds all other powers on earth.”[4] Jung adds, “We can no longer deny that the dark stirrings of the unconscious are active powers.”[5] This immediately makes me think of Jung’s well-known insight that if we don’t bring consciousness to the shadow forces within the psyche, we will then most assuredly dream up our inner unconscious situation to play out—destructively—on the world stage as our fate.

I am familiar with Jung’s idea that when the darkness of the unconscious begins to stir, if these forces are not understood, they will magnetically draw people together who will become unwitting instruments for what Jung calls “the powers of darkness” to act themselves out in the world. A leader, such as Donald Trump, will invariably appear—in my language, get “dreamed up”—who will express, reflect and, like a lightning rod, amplify these darker forces. This leader is typically someone who, in Jung’s words, has “the least resistance, the least sense of responsibility and … the greatest will to power.”[6] Jung comments that this leader “will let loose everything that is ready to burst forth.”[7] As if offering a prophetic warning, Jung says with complete certainty, “a mass always produces a ‘Leader,’ who infallibly becomes the victim of his own inflated ego-consciousness, as numerous examples in history show.”[8] I think many of us intuit that Trump’s reign is not going to end well – the question becomes: how can we mitigate the damage?

It is as if Jung is describing exactly what is being acted out in the United States after the 2016 election. I can’t help but to ask Jung’s opinion about the fact that someone as clearly pathological as Donald Trump has become president. As if anticipating my question, Jung says, “As soon as people get together in masses and submerge the individual, the shadow is mobilized, and as history shows, may even be personified and incarnated.”[9] I remember that Jung defines the shadow as “the inferior part of everybody’s personality,”[10] the darker half of the human totality, what he refers to as humanity’s “own worst danger.”[11] I remember that the word mirror, etymologically speaking, means the “holder of the shadow.” It is as if we have collectively dreamed up Trump to embody—and reflect back to us—our unconscious shadow. Jung then matter-of-factly states, as if what he is saying is beyond debate, “It is everybody’s allotted fate to become conscious of and learn to deal with this shadow.”[12] It does feel as if we live in a time where it is no longer possible to avoid or postpone dealing with our darker half.

Jung adds that Trump “symbolized something in every individual.”[13] Commenting on Trump’s supporters, Jung points out that “people would never have been taken in and carried away so completely if this figure had not been a reflected image … ”[14] before Jung completes his thought, I finish it for him by blurting out loud “ … of their own unconscious shadow.” Satisfied that he has gotten across his point, Jung nods in agreement.

In describing Trump, Jung uses phrases such as a man acting out “the power fantasies of an adolescent” who behaves in public “like a man living in his own biography.”[15] I am beginning to understand that Jung is able to so precisely describe Trump because our president, as if sent by central casting, is simply the latest embodiment, in an exaggerated form, of a deeper archetypal pathology—existing in the collective unconscious itself—that has played itself out throughout history.

I express my concern to Jung that Trump is severely inflated, by which I mean he is unconsciously identified with, instead of being in conscious relationship to, what Jung refers to as the Self (which can be equated to the higher Self, i.e., God). To suffer from inflation is to have one’s ego blown up beyond its proper human limits, to be filled with hubris, to become full of oneself, a legend in one’s own mind. In his writings Jung refers to this state of inflation as being a conceit that borders on madness. With the utmost authority Jung replies to my concern, “’God-Almightiness’ does not make man divine, it merely fills him with arrogance and arouses everything evil in him. It produces a diabolical caricature of man, and this inhuman mask is so unendurable, such a torture to wear, that he tortures others.”[16] I can’t believe how accurately Jung is describing Trump—who is the embodiment of arrogance and who, in his own words, “likes torture ‘a lot’”—to a T. Speaking to the inflated, larger-than-life, gold-plated universe of our current president, Jung points out, “Everything that exceeds a certain human size evokes equally inhuman powers in man’s unconscious. Totalitarian demons[17] are called forth.”[18]

I start thinking how inflation is a form of blindness, as it disables our ability to see clearly and take in reflection from the outside world. As if validating my thought, Jung says, “Inflation magnifies the blind spot of the eye.”[19] His comment makes me think of how our species certainly seems to be suffering from a form of psychic blindness, as if we are wearing blinders and have become myopic in our viewpoint, lacking clear vision. Is Trump the outer reflection of this blindness? Jung then amplifies his thoughts on inflation by saying, “A clear symptom of this is our growing disinclination to take note of the reactions of the environment and pay heed to them.”[20] His statement makes me reflect upon how our current president not only doesn’t take in reflection from other people, but is ignoring the reactions from the environment—the biosphere—itself. Deeply recognizing the peril of our current situation, Jung becomes somber and in a barely audible tone, mutters under his breath, “our blindness is extremely dangerous.”

The next moment, as if a light-bulb has gone off inside of his head, Jung snaps out of his momentary state of melancholy and exclaims, “Greater than all physical dangers are the tremendous effects of delusional ideas.”[21] Ideas, what Plato calls “the eyes of the soul,” are ways of regarding things, the means by which we see, the perspectives through which we view the world and create our life. “Delusional ideas,” I find myself thinking, are the one thing that our current administration is not lacking.

As if wanting to complete his thoughts on an inflated consciousness, Jung says, with complete certainty, that it “is incapable of learning from the past, incapable of understanding contemporary events, and incapable of drawing right conclusions about the future. It is hypnotized by itself and therefore cannot be argued with. It inevitably dooms itself to calamities that must strike it dead.”[22] His words send a chill down my spine, as once again it feels as if he is describing our current president. Jung is pointing out that inflation—which we should remind ourselves is a characteristic of an unbalanced mind—invariably leads to catastrophe. The scary thing is that we—all of us—are potentially under the sphere of influence of a commander-in-chief who is not in his “right mind.”

I start thinking about all of the over-the-top campaign promises that Trump made and continues to make. As if once again reading my thoughts, Jung points out, “The man who promises everything is sure to fulfill nothing, and everyone who promises too much is in danger of using evil means in order to carry out his promises, and is already on the road to perdition.”[23] I immediately think about our president’s proclivity to not just “promise everything,” but to lie at seemingly every chance he gets. I ask Jung about this, to which he responds, “things only become dangerous when the pathological liar is taken seriously by a wider public. Like Faust, he is bound to make a pact with the devil and thus slips off the straight path.”[24] I think how Trump’s lies are believed as truth and taken seriously by his supporters, as if their faculty of discernment has been disabled. Jung continues, “But I should like to emphasize above all else that it is part and parcel of the pathological liar’s make-up to be plausible.”[25]

Trump, I imagine Jung pointing out, is suffering from what is known as pseudologia phantastica, a “form of hysteria which is characterized by a peculiar talent for believing one’s own lies.”[26] Upon reflection, it does seem that Trump has hypnotized himself such that he really seems to believe his own lies, as if he himself isn’t able to discern between truth and falsehood. As if adding a commentary to my own thoughts, Jung says, “Nothing has such a convincing effect as a lie one invents and believes oneself.”[27] This certainly explains why Trump’s followers seem to be so taken in by his lies.

I notice that I am a bit taken aback by Jung’s continual telepathic powers—how does he know my mind so well?—until I remember that he is an imaginal figure not separate from my mind. He seems to represent a perspective that is other than my own, as if I am dialoguing with a living, autonomous part of myself that knows more than I do.

As if completing his psychological analysis on our president’s genius for deceiving himself, Jung explains, “Believing one’s own lies when the wish is father to the lie is a well-known hysterical symptom and a distinct sign of inferiority.”[28] This makes sense to me, as Trump’s braggadocio certainly seems, from the psychological point of view, as if it is a compensation for deep feelings of inferiority. Jung elaborates, “Inferiority feelings are usually a sign of inferior feeling—which is not just a play on words.”[29] Jung’s point rings true – from all appearances, Donald Trump’s feeling function and sense of empathy seem highly underdeveloped and stunted.

From his statements, I realize that Jung is of the opinion that Trump is suffering from hysteria, which is something I hadn’t considered, yet it makes perfect sense upon reflection. People like Trump who suffer from hysteria invariably fall prey to what Jung refers to as “prestige psychology,” evidenced by his typical need “to flaunt his merits and insist on them, of his insatiable thirst for recognition, admiration, adulation.”[30] I remember how in his writings Jung points out that people who suffer from hysteria, due to their unwillingness to own their own failings, compulsively wind up hurting other people. Jung refers to Trump as a “theatrical hysteric” (when he says this, I immediately wonder if Jung even knows about the concept of “reality TV”), who is “not strutting about on a small stage,” but, frighteningly, is in charge of the greatest war-making machine that this planet has ever seen.

As if starting to dream, Jung, with a twinkle in his eye, conjectures, “Perhaps in a more enlightened era a candidate for governmental office will have to have it certified by a psychiatric commission that he is not a bearer of psychic bacilli.”[31] I appreciate Jung’s idea of having our would-be-leaders vetted for mental stability; from all appearances our current president would fail the test. I immediately think how I would be quite happy to be on the board of examiners. It certainly seems as if Trump is infected with a psychic bacilli/mind-virus[32] of sorts, as his mind seems truly deranged, i.e., not oriented in the right direction.

In any case, it certainly seems like an incredibly dangerous time we are living through – images of a mentally unbalanced person such as Trump with his finger on the button come to mind. Jung comments, “The situation is about the same as if a small boy of six had been given a bag of dynamite for a birthday present.”[33] Yeah, I find myself thinking, but the bag of dynamite in our case is nuclear.

Feeling my fear rising, I imploringly ask Jung what we can possibly do. Without even having to think about it for a second, he responds, “a complete spiritual renewal is needed. And this cannot be given gratis, each man must strive to achieve it for himself. Neither can old formulas which once had a value be brought into force again. The eternal truths cannot be transmitted mechanically; in every epoch they must be born anew from the human psyche.”[34] I immediately think of Jung’s consistent message that it is only through change in an individual’s consciousness—the individual being, in Jung’s words, “the carrier of life”—that real transformation happens in the world at large.

Sounding quite pleased at my understanding, Jung comments, “Therefore it is always single individuals who are moved by the collective problem and who are called upon to respond and contribute to its solution by tackling it in their own lives and not running away from it.”[35] As I’ve previously written, it is the artists—those among us who are actively engaged with the creative spirit—who will help to heal our world.

Jung continues, “If ever there was a time when self-reflection was the absolutely necessary and only right thing, it is now, in our present catastrophic epoch.”[36] Self-reflection, a privilege born of and intrinsic to human freedom, is a genuinely spiritual act – essentially the act of becoming conscious. He continues, “The true leaders of mankind are always those who are capable of self-reflection.”[37] In self-reflection we recognize ourselves in the mirror of the world. As if amplifying my thoughts, Jung exclaims, “Yet, whoever reflects upon himself is bound to strike upon the frontiers of the unconscious, which contains what above all else he needs to know.”[38] I love Jung’s idea that the unconscious, instead of simply being a repository of what we repress, contains what we need to know. My unconscious apparently contains the living figure of Jung.

As if reflecting upon my own self-reflection, Jung says, “Individual self-reflection, return of the individual to the ground of human nature, to his own deepest being with its individual and social destiny—here is the beginning of a cure for that blindness which reigns at the present hour.”[39] Connecting with the innermost foundations of our being is like finding a safe refuge during these crazy times we are living through. “If things go wrong in the world,” Jung says, and then waits to make sure I am listening, “I shall put myself right first.”[40] I certainly can’t argue with that.

I am deeply affected by Jung’s wisdom. I have the thought that I am in the presence of a living genius. I remember that the word genius is related to the word genie (as in “I dream of…”), which is etymologically related to the word daemon, which means the inner voice and guiding spirit. I wonder – is Jung just a personification of my own guiding spirit, my inner guru? I then remember that the deeper meaning of the word “guru” is one who inspires; in this sense, I am happy to call Jung my guru – he is a source of continual inspiration in my life. Jung seems greatly bemused by my contemplations, and starts smiling, only to break out into a big laugh. I see why so many people have said that he has an unforgettable laugh. For the moment, all seems right with the world.

Jung seems deeply satisfied by our meeting. I am more than satisfied; I’m in a practically ecstatic state, literally overflowing with gratitude. As if our time together is coming to a close, Jung’s image, like a rainbow dissolving into the emptiness of its nature, starts to fade. As if receiving a mystic revelation, I continually hear Jung’s voice echoing in my head, “I shall put myself right first.” His words are profoundly inspiring, as if they are speaking directly to me. It is as if he is giving me a transmission, pointing me in the right direction. As these words resound in my mind, I begin to wonder, “Are these Jung’s words, or my own?”

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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby JackRiddler » Tue May 09, 2017 10:20 pm

Thank you KUAN. That's the kind of woo me like.
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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby dada » Tue May 09, 2017 11:44 pm

Yes, thanks for that, KUAN.

I immediately think of Jung’s consistent message that it is only through change in an individual’s consciousness—the individual being, in Jung’s words, “the carrier of life”—that real transformation happens in the world at large.


hm. What a novel idea.

Now I critiques it. As I do.

Sounding quite pleased at my understanding, Jung comments, “Therefore it is always single individuals who are moved by the collective problem and who are called upon to respond and contribute to its solution by tackling it in their own lives and not running away from it.”[35] As I’ve previously written, it is the artists—those among us who are actively engaged with the creative spirit—who will help to heal our world.


Artists are the ones who need the most work, though.

What we're looking for is coming to terms with death. This means physical death, and ego death. Self-reflection only goes as far as one's definition of the self. Actively imagining, dialogue-ing with the unconscious forces, "integration," will only get us so far. Got to "die" first, to dialogue with the superconscious forces.

Some related quotes from a book that jumped off the shelf into my lap yesterday. The book is titled, "Dimensions of Death and Rebirth," the quotes are from a transcript of a lecture given by Stan Grof, MD. The book is published by the A.R.E. press, which you may or may not know is the Edgar Cayce Foundation. Being a lucid dreaming surrealist, I naturally gravitate towards the Edgar Casey readings. Beautiful work, from both a spiritual growth/healing and an aesthetic-artistic perspective.

I'm not suggesting these quotes be considered in terms of other people, other people's development or lack of it, or to explain or solve the world's problems. Self-reflection means self-reflection.

"...At the time of this intense encounter with their own mortality, people who have identified themselves with their bodies and with their individual lifetimes have to go through a very profound crisis. Confronting death brings a recognition of the limitations of all worldly achievements and an emotional detachment from the pursuit of materialistic goals, such as possessions, status and fame. The only way of getting out of the crisis - which, by the way, is strongly emphasized by the existentialist philosophy and the theater of the absurd - seems to be transcendence. It is necessary to transform our values, to begin relating to something more than this one body and this one lifetime. This transcendence takes the form of an inner awakening to intrinsic mystical and spiritual feelings that are independent of childhood experiences, church affiliation, and particualr cultural or religious background."

"During the process of the ego death, the ego is so overwhelmed and flooded with material that its boundaries are destroyed. All the reference points are lost, and the old personality structures are literally washed off. Once a person reaches that point, he or she no longer has to worry about integrating various experiences and piecing them together. After the ego death, the individual finds a much broader, coherent, fully completed system that is waiting for him or her. If one is able to abandon totally the old structures, the new ones come into effect instantly."

(That last quote might also go well in the "Surviving Death" thread. Past lives, eternal recurrence, karma, all that, are kind of a level people get 'stuck' at. Like going to psychotherapy for years, trying to work out your issues, except it's lifetimes instead of years. You can be free of all that instantly. Need to be, in fact, if you want to do anything meaningful. But people have trouble letting go. Deep down they know this, though, I'd bet. Here's some more: )

"Abraham a Sancta Clara, an Austrian Augustinian monk, expressed this concept in a beautiful saying that Philip Kapleau mentions in his 'Wheel of Death:' "The man who dies before he dies, does not die when he dies." In other words, there is a certain way of facing and encountering death that has to be done only once. If a person goes through it when he is fifteen, he doesn't have to go through it when he is seventy. This is how I understand the basic function of all the ancient temple mysteries and the primitive rites of passage that focus on the death/rebirth experience. They create a framework in which people can go through the experience of psychological annihilation and transcendence, so that from then on they will live in a psychologically different world, where life and death are sort of dialectically interrelated. Death will then have a very different meaning than it has for a person who is totally immersed in the materialistic way of looking at things."

"...I feel we have to change our view of human nature and include into a new model at least two additional realms beyond the psychodynamic, biographical level. The first of these is the very fundamental level which, when activated [...] can generate a very profound encounter with both death and birth. This is the realm from which extremely powerful experiences of dying and being born emerge.

The second area that lies beyond the biographical one encompasses the whole range of transpersonal experiences, which can involve transcendence of time and space limitations, as well as contact with some realms that we do not generally acknowledge as being part of what we call objective reality. Examples of this type of experience include encounters with Jungian archetypes - such as the Great Mother, Cosmic Man, and Wise Man archetypes - and with various deities, either blissful or threatening.

Extreme examples of transpersonal experiences are unitive states of consciousness, which are perceived by the individual as oneness with the ultimate creative principle of the universe - god, brahma, tao or whatever other name we choose for it.

Finally, there is the experience that people who have had it consider it to be the ultimate, beyond which one cannot go; it is the experience of the void. People describe this awareness as the ultimate primordial nothingness, emptiness, yet emptiness conscious of itself and, paradoxically, emptiness that is pregnant with form. There's nothing there, yet nothing that the subject can possibly conceive of is missing."

I would add that it's helpful to remember that these are models of the unconscious. Because for one, they're only models, and two, they don't take into account the conscious, which if you observe it, you may find contains more than one level of perspective. I'd say there are three, at least. In my model of consciousness, I work with three.

After the void, the "beyond which one cannot go," is where the superconscious forces wait for you to get up to speed. Beyond the archetypes and states of universal oneness, Above the transpersonal spectacle. They also can be found hanging out in dreams sometimes.

In case anyone forgot why I've posted this stuff in the "Congratulations, Stupid" thread, the quote from the above article again as a reminder: " it is only through change in an individual’s consciousness—the individual being, in Jung’s words, “the carrier of life”—that real transformation happens in the world at large."
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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby JackRiddler » Wed May 10, 2017 2:21 pm

Very interesting. I find your rendering more interesting than Imaginary Jung's. What are the practices with which one reaches this early and enlightening form of confrontation with death? Have you done so, if so how, and what was it - is it - like?
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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby JackRiddler » Wed May 10, 2017 5:54 pm

Meanwhile, given the original subject of this thread, it would be amiss not to post the following contribution. Entirely in the spirit of the thread title, but actually further than I ever meant to go:


http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/05/10/ ... eally-won/

Why Trump Really Won
By George Payne
May 10, 2017

As our nation closes in on one half of the first year in Trump’s presidency, the debate over why he won last November is still being waged by millions of Americans on all points of the political spectrum. Hillary Clinton recently told a CNN reporter, in a widely publicized interview, that the ultimate reason that she lost the election is because FBI James Comey spooked the American people with his cautionary letter to Congress.

I want to offer a less vindictive and conspiratorial assessment. I think the real reason that Clinton lost the election is because most Americans have a shorter attention span than a goldfish.

According to the Television Bureau of Advertising, the average American family has 2.5 TVs per household. 75% of Americans have at least one television set in their living room, and 31% have 4 sets or more. Kids 2-11, spend 26 hrs a week watching TV. That amounts to 1,248 hours a year. The average American adult watches 4 hours of TV each day. Every 4 hours a viewer witnesses 80 minutes of commercials.

In total, Americans spend a little more than 20 days a year just watching television commercials. From the age of 3-80, an average American will spend 1,540 days watching commercials. Divide this number by 365 days and you get 4.2 years.

Microsoft funded researchers in Canada surveyed 2,000 participants and studied the brain activity of 112 others using electroencephalograms (EEGs). They found that since the year 2000 (or about when the mobile revolution began) the average attention span dropped from 12 seconds to 8 seconds. The goldfish has an attention span of 9 seconds.

Could it be that the ultimate reason a cameo actor on The Nanny, Sex and the City, Home Alone 2, The Little Rascals, and Zoolander- and an executive producer of the Miss Universe pageant and The Apprentice- was able to become POTUS, is because the name Trump is a commercial brand that screen addicted Americans knew and trusted?

Trump won for the same reason that consumers buy Sprite instead of the store brand lemon up. Trump won for the same reason people buy a bottle of Advil instead of the generic Rite Aid brand. Trump won because most Americans will spend 4 years watching commercials. Trump won because most Americans have a shorter attention span than a goldfish. Trump won because he shouted loudest and most often on television.

George Cassidy Payne is a SUNY adjunct professor of philosophy and peace and justice activist based in Rochester, NY.



Except that I, and you, and most of us here may feel compelled to think several times a day: not that white people in Wisconsin and wherever in California Nordic lives were duped by a mentally ill conman from New York City, but just flat-out that most Americans of any category are dumb as shit.

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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby dada » Wed May 10, 2017 11:00 pm

JackRiddler » Wed May 10, 2017 2:21 pm wrote:Very interesting. I find your rendering more interesting than Imaginary Jung's. What are the practices with which one reaches this early and enlightening form of confrontation with death? Have you done so, if so how, and what was it - is it - like?


Thanks, Jack. Just doing my job.

According to my secret society and their ancient manuscripts of other worldly origin, there are as many practices as there are people. Death is a personal experience, a solo affair. For some it may be self-induced, for another, triggered environmentally or situationally. It may be a choice, or a spontaneous surprise. For one it may feel like a pleasant dissolution, for another, it might be a terrible ordeal, like facing the no-win scenario to become a starship captain. The common factor between them all, is that for a successful, sudden complete enlightenment to take effect, preparation and juxtaposition are key.

Free will is the catch, and also the catalyst. When their practice is successful, or the opportunity presents itself, or both, the person must have the courage to allow it to happen, not run away and hide from it.

To give you an example of how varied the methods can be, I'll tell you how it went for me. It didn't happen at all how I'd expected it to. I had tried out different techniques, searching to find my method. It ended up being thinking and writing that brought it on. I thought my way there. Then while I was writing a scene, it hit me. I saw my opportunity, I went for it. Nothing had changed, and everything had changed. That's what it was like. Death didn't look at all as I'd expected him to look like.

My thinking is extra-sharp because I'm totally sober. I think that had something to do with it, though of course it may be different for others.The above paragraph was longer, but my ninja editor cut it. My ninja editor is cold, dispassionate. That's why he's my editor.

The thing about the full acceptance of ones own mortality is that it can't be faked. There are obvious tells, built-in. If things like material possessions, status and fame are important to a person, they haven't faced it, for example. So it's easy to see who has done it right, and who is in effect 'loitering on the threshold.' One can say they really want it, but they keep putting it off, looking for a way to capitalize on it. What they really want is power, ego gratification. So their method eludes them.

We could look at other things through this lens, it could prove to be insightful. For example the idea, flat-out. that most Americans of any category are dumb as shit. It could be they aren't as dumb as all that, they're just afraid of death. So they look for all kinds of distractions. They are then taken advantage of, by other people who are afraid of their own deaths, doing whatever it is they do for distractions, like going into the advertising business or whatever. These are just things people who are afraid to face up to death do.

Perhaps even on some level, the first group even want to be taken advantage of. You know, people watch an advertisement that makes a product look really cool, and they say, "Just take my money already!" They want distractions. Some may be somewhat intelligent even, by the cultural standards of measurement, at least. They're just afraid. I mean, look at this board.

You know, "Is truth dead?" on the cover of Time. We're all going to die. This is a solid truth. There are other truths, but that's a jumping off point. People would rather play the 'is truth dead' game. Another distraction from doing the work of transformation.

Even if we upload our consciousness into the cloud, it will be like death. Trust me on this. It's in the other-worldly manuscripts.

Think globally, act locally. Another distraction. As we say in my secret society, think locally, act globally.
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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby Blue » Thu May 11, 2017 8:44 am

Thanks for your thoughts in this thread, dada. You remind me of something I read a long time ago: "The Lazy Man's Guide to Enlightenment" by Thaddeus Golas.

The ego, the mental structure, "feels better" when it has to contend with the tension of threats to itself.
We feel "high" and energetic when tested by negative possibilities: hard work, discipline, sky-diving,
racing, wars (until Vietnam—the North Vietnamese got high off that one—the U.S. didn't because it
wasn't threatened), illness, fasting, asceticism, gambling, drugs, careless driving, arguing, paranoia
(invented threats), contending with the devil and black magic, and so on.


Of course, if the negative definition goes too far, the structure will collapse, but somehow that doesn't
bother us. We love to worry about dangers to human survival. (Unless it is a real one, like the atomic
bomb or germ war-fare. Then the risk is "unreal," we are reluctant to think about it.)
As a normal process, we define ourselves, we find out who we are, by what we disagree with. And we
identify others by what is wrong with them: we keep looking until we find some difference between
"us" and "them." Virtues in others are invisible, not really interesting .


We human beings, almost alone among species, have solved the problem of maintaining negative
tension by being our own worst enemies. We can never completely overcome "human nature" in
ourselves or others, so the game goes on. It is plain that we are getting a reward from all the ghastly
facts of life we complain of: that's what sells newspapers.


God is dead. Truth is dead. Oh, whatever shall we do?

Understanding that we have all been here before and all the other universal truisms helps us on our journey. But damn, is it ever hard to not deride the stupid.

There are many paths to enlightenment.

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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby JackRiddler » Thu May 18, 2017 9:25 pm

Hate to disappoint anyone hoping for an imminent impeachment, but the appointment of Bob "Anthrax" Mueller as special counsel may spell the end of the affair surrounding alleged Russian connections for a good long while. Prosecutorial investigations at this level usually are kept at a slow boil for a year or more before any reports or indictments come. You saw this not just with Sex Inquisitor Ken Starr, if you remember, but also with Surveillance Scaremonger Comey and his long delays before carrying out the two hits on Clinton. It will be a good long time before Muelller has even staffed his office and set up expense accounts.

In the meantime, Congressional committees can claim they are restricted from interfering. They can choose not to call witnesses who might be questioned by the special counsel. This probably means Comey will not be testifying in public any time soon, as the Democrats have anticipated. It is up to Republican whim if they want to cut down Trump for this matter, even more so than before. They have a leash on Trump now, and will only make the move against him if they judge it expedient for their team. Meanwhile the smaller mobster crew in the White House have their latest reboot opportunity. (I'm pretty sure the Syrian crematorium story was a floater for a new strike to make the apparatus unite behind him again, but it didn't seem to catch.) The wild card is whether this obviously sick (since always) and possibly senile show runner can keep his fucking yap shut and his thumbs off his phone keypad.

I remembered the other day that in 1987, when I was 21 and a graduate, my parents took me to Atlantic City. After a while I left them to their games, took to the boardwalk, won some money at blackjack in one casino, then walked out intending to find them again at the one they were in. But I saw the Trump sign, on top of his first casino. Flush with confidence, I ran in, played two hands, won a hundred bucks, and walked right out, happy that I'd taken something from this asshole I already hated intensely, for all the right reasons. At that point he'd been pushed so hard by the tabloids and gossip sheets and local TV for a decade or more, as the vulgar avatar of American success. (At this time, I of course had no idea who the governor of Arkansas might have been.)

Not counting the securely middle-class racists and Christofanatic brainwashing victims of the Republican base, which is to say the vast majority of the 62 million voters for Trump, this is the scam artist who managed to get a certain number of rust-belt patsies to buy into him as the man who would drain the swamp, bring them jobs, make them feel good. Even end interventionist policy! (Which you really had to not be listening to believe at all, ever.) Doesn't matter how much the others were also lying. No excuses. Stupid.

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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby Elihu » Thu May 18, 2017 9:59 pm

Doesn't matter how much the others were also lying.


yeah it does.

No excuses.


the broken clock will be "right" errr left, again.

Stupid.
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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby coffin_dodger » Fri May 19, 2017 4:24 am

On Leaving the SJW Cult and Finding Myself Keri Smith medium.com May 13 2017

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"I see increasing numbers of so-called liberals cheering censorship and defending violence as a response to speech. I see seemingly reasonable people wishing death on others and laughing at escalating suicide and addiction rates of the white working class. I see liberal think pieces written in opposition to expressing empathy or civility in interactions with those with whom we disagree. I see 63 million Trump voters written off as “nazis” who are okay to target with physical violence. I see concepts like equality and justice being used as a mask for resentful, murderous rage..."


cont - https://medium.com/indian-thoughts/on-l ... 6769b2f1ff
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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby JackRiddler » Fri May 19, 2017 7:45 am

Hmm, columnist who projects her enemy image on to unnamed caricatures of "SJWs" in an opinion piece fashioned for reposting by faithful Nazilite apologists who think Trump is a nationalist draining the swamp, or actual fascist police chief who promises to crush protest with violent force? It's all the same!

David Clarke, nominated for assistant secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.

Words like fascist and authoritarian get thrown around too promiscuously. But there is no other way to describe David Clarke, who today announced that he was named assistant secretary of the Department of Homeland Security. (The Department has not confirmed Clarke’s appointment.) Clarke occupies the extremist, anti-democratic fringe of far-right officials, even by the standards of the Trump administration.

Clarke, a Milwaukee sheriff, rocketed into national prominence as a conservative provocateur by virtue of his rabid opposition to Black Lives Matter. Clarke is African-American, which has given him broader license to attack protesters in unbridled terms that thrill Republicans. He calls the group “Black Lies Matter,” or “black slime,” railing against its members as dangerous thugs. Clarke argues that not only does BLM go too far in its advocacy of criminal-justice reform, but that the cause itself is categorically illegitimate. He has lectured protesters to “stop trying to fix the police, fix the ghetto.”

Clarke’s ironfisted beliefs about criminal justice can be explained in part by his own career. He oversees a prison that is notoriously brutal. Four people have died of mistreatment and torture in his custody. One newborn baby died while its mother was shackled during childbirth; another prisoner died of dehydration, after the water in his cell was shut off for seven days. In 2013, one of his deputies ran a traffic light and T-boned the car of a civilian driver, who was badly injured. Clarke’s department charged the driver, who was actually sober, with drunk driving in order to cover up its own culpability.

It is not surprising that Clarke rejects out of hand any criticism of police misconduct. But his disdain for criminal-justice reform is not merely avocational. Clarke’s mind is organized around a worship of the virtues of physical force, combined with a seething intolerance for democratic dissent. In his book, Clarke proposes that the Department of Homeland Security — the department that he has been nominated to serve — assume police-state powers to round up internal enemies. “I suggest that our commander in chief ought to utilize Article I, Section 9 and take all of these individuals that are suspected, these ones on the internet spewing jihadi rhetoric … to scoop them up, charge them with treason and, under habeas corpus, detain them indefinitely at Gitmo,” he writes. Clarke estimates that the number of people to be rounded up in such fashion runs into “hundreds of thousands,” or “maybe a million.” Clarke is clear in his belief that the legal principles that have served as a bedrock against state abuse for centuries should be discarded. He would “hold them indefinitely under a suspension of habeas corpus” because “[b]old and aggressive action is needed.”

It is important to understand that these policies, even as extreme as they are, cannot be understood even merely as a radical extension of anti-terror policies, or misplaced fear of the terrorist threat. Clarke’s understanding of domestic terrorism runs far beyond radical jihadists. He has predicted that Black Lives Matter will “join forces with ISIS,” and on multiple occasions described the group as a terror organization. The protesters do not “care about black lives. They care about their own radical ideology of terrorism: anarchy.” Clarke insists Black Lives Matter “needs to be crushed.”

And while Black Lives Matter occupies a special place in his paranoid ideology, Clarke has increasingly applied his fervor for crushing dissent to any of Donald Trump’s critics. Attacking protesters who appeared at Trump rallies during the campaign, he told Tucker Carlson:

They only understand one thing, Tucker. And that is force. And I am talking about reasonable force by law enforcement. But I’m also talking about law-abiding citizens standing up for their constitutional right and not have their constitutional right trampled on at these rallies. I’m not encouraging them to start the fight, but I’m one of those that comes from the school, if the fight is inevitable, hit first, and hit hard.

After the initial, throat-clearing about “reasonable” force, Clarke explains that he believes that one must “hit first” if the a confrontation is “inevitable,” which — in his mind — is the natural state of political life. When protests broke out in New York and other cities after Trump’s election, Clarke raged that “temper tantrums from these radical anarchists must be quelled.”

In early October, when Trump appeared to be bound for defeat, he denounced the political system as rigged, while either literally or symbolically calling for insurrection. “It’s incredible that our institutions of gov, WH, Congress, DOJ, and big media are corrupt & all we do is bitch. Pitchforks and torches time.” The seeming contradiction between his extreme intolerance of political dissent and attribution of insurrectionary motives to his political opponents, along with his own use of revolutionary discourse, is well-explained by Clarke’s own thinking. Fascists view politics as an inevitably violent struggle in which normal bargaining and compromise are impossible.

That one of our major political parties allows a figure like Clarke to exist comfortably within it at all is deeply disturbing. That he would even be considered for a position at a security agency, where he would presumably work to implement his fascistic beliefs, is one of the most disturbing signs yet of the Trump administration’s increasingly evident disregard for democratic norms.
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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby Heaven Swan » Fri May 19, 2017 8:59 am

Agree Jack. And the nomination of Clarke is a chilling development.

But I'm also struggling to understand what's going on with (a part of) the left, wrt the authoritarian closed mindedness that is destroying it from within. I read Keri Smith's piece and watched the Jordan Peterson video she links:



Quote from the Keri Smith article:
I don’t yet know what to call this part of the left. Maajid Nawaz calls them the “Regressive Left.” Others call them SJWs (Social Justice Warriors) or the Alt-Left. The ideology is post-modernist cultural marxism, and it operates as a secular religion. Most are indoctrinated in liberal elite colleges, though many are being indoctrinated online these days. It has its own dogma and jargon, meant to make you feel like a good person, and used to lecture others on their ‘sin.’ “Check your privilege”- much like “mansplaining” and “gaslighting”- all at one time useful terms- have over time lost a lot of their meaning. These days I see them most frequently being abused as weaponized ad hominem attacks on a person’s immutable identity markers….a way to avoid making an argument, while simultaneously claiming an unearned moral highground in a discussion.


Why is this shallow dogma so appealing to so many?

Although I can spot glaring underlying flaws in Jorden Peterson's reasoning, I agree with most of what he says. And since he's a Canadian professor I look to him for insight into how these 'regressive leftists' are being nurtured and spawned by the liberal elite colleges, IOW how are they being conditioned and created?

When Peterson says that patriarchy doesn't need be overthrown, that we just need to look into our souls and become better people, what he doesn't address or understand is that patriarchy is enforced on a daily basis through abuse by men like him. If feminism is dismissed and the deep soul-searching (by men) doesn't include understanding the position of women and undoing one's sense of entitlement to exploit women (often in the context of 'love') and enforce their position of dominance through overt and covert abuse---well, it won't do women much, if any good.

Peterson focuses only on the sins of communist states and the genocide and war generated by capitalism goes unmentioned. Very one-sided, but how can the left ignore the practical failures in the places where communism has been instituted?

Is the knee-jerk defense of Russia by so many leftist leaders, and the dismissal of the investigation into Russian meddling and Russian ties with Trump based on a shallow, unconsidered support of Russia due to its' Communist past? I admit that this one still has me stumped...would appreciate insight on what's behind this attitude.

Thanks for posting the article Coffin Dodger and thanks Jack R for the news about Clarke. So much is happeneing so fast and I have a hard time keeping up.
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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby The Consul » Fri May 19, 2017 10:10 am

People only understand force. Especially black people. Bullwhips work really well. Black people and women. Liberals need to join NRA to protect themselves from the NRA and increasing insanity of alt right. Everyone should be armed at all times and have at least 2,000 rounds of ammo just like Trump Jr. Remember Police only kill people on accident or on purpose, depending on film footage. Cops profile everybody, they just profile blacks a lot more. A lot. Esp if they wear nice clothes, drive a nice car and boy howdy if they have a white girlfriend. Sometimes people get away because offal seers can't figure out if the person is black or not, male or female, American or alien. Iron fist democracy is here, though the hands seem to be too small to fit the gloves and they keep slipping off. Shiny lies pop up like dandelions every day. A horde of hopeless morons clambers over the pig gates to eat them. Yummy. America goes From Obama to Clarke. They see their own hatred as a high form of brutal, patriotic logic. They too think we are running out of time. Just a matter of hours before the commie fascist jew libturds and mud people kill us all. Before it was largely unconscious and occasionally whispered in some back holler shit hole. Now it's a vibrant political movement.

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Re: Congratulations, Stupid.

Postby Elvis » Fri May 19, 2017 5:55 pm


Army Vet Goes All the Way In on Sheriff David Clarke's 'Toy Uniform' with Its 'Novelty Pins'

What's the deal with all those decorations?

By Walter Einenkel / DailyKos
May 19, 2017

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It’s hard to say whether or not Milwaukee’s failed Sheriff David Clarke is or is not the next assistant deputy secretary of Homeland Security, as reports are mixed—Clarke says he accepts the job while the White House says nothing is official. The one thing we know about Sheriff Clarke is that a man died of dehydration in one of his jails after being denied water for seven days while awaiting a psych evaluation. We also know that Clarke is probably a sham of a fraud of a charlatan of a person, as is virtually everyone connected to unpopular President Trump. If you’ve ever seen Clarke you know he likes to keep a very pristine and authoritative style. Shiny cowboy hats and uniforms. When he speaks at big conservative rallies he also loves to put on a ton of important looking “medals.” Charles Clymer is an Army veteran and yesterday he voiced a rant on something that many of us have been annoyed by but in no position to really know—what’s the deal with all those “decorations?”

Charles Clymer

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1/ Okay, regarding Sheriff David Clarke, can I be petty for a second about something that's always irritated me? (thread)
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2/ Look at this fucking guy's uniform. You see all that shit pinned all over his dress uniform jacket? That's not supposed to be there. pic.twitter.com/0QZlBxQjI8
2:21 PM - 17 May 2017 · Washington, DC


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@cmclymer

3/ I can't be the only military veteran who has seen Clarke's uniform and been like: that's fucking ridiculous.
2:22 PM - 17 May 2017 · Washington, DC


Charles Clymer

@cmclymer

4/ Let me explain why this is irritating for me. Military (and police) decorations are earned. They take hard work and sacrifice.
2:23 PM - 17 May 2017 · Washington, DC


Charles Clymer

@cmclymer

5/ Colin Powell once described a dress uniform as a solider's resume. You can tell what they've done by their ribbons and badges.
2:24 PM - 17 May 2017 · Washington, DC


Charles Clymer

@cmclymer

6/ Implied here, of course, is that the more shit you have on your uniform, the more impressed civilians will be. It projects authority.
2:24 PM - 17 May 2017 · Washington, DC


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7/ If you've earned decorations, wear them! But Sheriff David Clarke is trying to pull a fast one on average Americans.
2:25 PM - 17 May 2017 · Washington, DC


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8/ I mean look at this fucking shit. It's literally a sloppy assortment of badge replicas arranged neatly, but it looks imposing. pic.twitter.com/RjCTje6a3T
2:27 PM - 17 May 2017 · Washington, DC


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9/ On the left side, you have what appears to be more badge replicas/pins and several ribbons, one of which looks unauthorized pic.twitter.com/np7GBFbfEI
2:28 PM - 17 May 2017 · Washington, DC


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10/ And then up top, you have the flag pin arranged on the lapel as though it's part of the uniform code. Pretty sure it's not. pic.twitter.com/KlMz971qYc
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According to reporting from the Daily Beast, Clarke, along with a delegation from the National Rifle Association visited Dmitry Rogozin, a Russian Deputy Prime Minister, who was currently under sanctions from the United States government.
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FILE - In this July 18, 2016 file photo, David Clarke, Sheriff of Milwaukee County, Wis., speaks during the opening day of the Republican National Convention in Cleveland. A woman who was pregnant while detained at the Milwaukee County jail is alleging in a lawsuit against the sheriff that she was shackled while she was in labor in 2013. The federal lawsuit filed Tuesday, March 14, 2017, seeks class-action status, claiming there are about 40 other women who had a similar experience since 2011. (AP
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