Alt Right vs "Alt Left" Strategy of Tension in the USA?

[Iamwhomiam]

Fake news? Trump supporters circulate photo of Phoenix rally crowds ... but it's not



GOP group posts photo of Phoenix pro-Trump crowd. But it wasn’t pro-Trump or Phoenix.

http://www.centredaily.com/news/politics-government/article168857092.html

[Grizzly]

^^^
Nice, non-news...lol

[seemslikeadream]

Far-right smear campaign against Antifa exposed by Bellingcat
By BBC Trending

Two images of Anna Friel from a domestic violence campaign. The doctored image, on the left, features an anti-fascist logo and the caption "53% of white women voted for Trump. 53% of white women should look like this"Image copyrightTWITTER/WOMENS AID
Image caption
Falsified pictures circulating on social media (l) include an image of Anna Friel from a 2007 anti-domestic violence campaign (r)
Far-right activists are using fake Twitter accounts and images of battered women to smear anti-fascist groups in the US, an online investigation has revealed.
The online campaign is using fake Antifa (an umbrella term for anti-fascist protestors) Twitter accounts to claim anti-fascists promote physically abusing women who support US President Donald Trump or white supremacy.
Researcher Eliot Higgins of website Bellingcat found evidence that the campaign is being orchestrated on internet messageboard 4Chan by far-right sympathisers.
One image shows the slogan "53% of white women voted for Trump, 53% of white women should look like this", above a photograph of a woman with a bruised and cut face and an anti-fascist symbol.
The woman pictured is actually British actress Anna Friel and the photograph was taken for a Women's Aid anti-domestic violence campaign in 2007.
The images first started circulating on social media late on 23 August with hashtags #PunchNazis, #MakeRacistsAfraidAgain and #BashTheFash.
Accounts appearing to belong to anti-fascist groups tweeted the memes, calling on activists to physically attack women who voted for Trump.
A Twitter account from @Antifascist19 shows a photo of a battered woman with the text Image copyrightTWITTER/WOMENS AID

Accounts posing as Antifa groups and Trump supporters using #PunchNazis hashtag
Prominent far-right individuals such as Joseph Paul Watson also retweeted the memes.
Twitter account @RockMountAntifa, claiming to be an anti-fascist group in Utah, tweeted 29 of these images in four hours.
"She said she was right-wing, so I gave her a left hook," one read.
However, the account shows tell-tale signs of being fake: The account was only created this month and its first tweet was on 24 August, while the only tweets posted were the 29 images.
Eliot Higgins, who traced evidence of chemical weapons use in Syria, found evidence the anti-Antifa campaign was organised on 4Chan, which has a reputation for acting as a meeting place for alt-right groups, and runs a "politically incorrect" board with extreme racist and homophobic comments.
Mr Higgins posted a screenshot of a call to action on the message board, which encouraged far-right sympathisers to search online for images of domestic violence, add their own slogan such as "She deserves it for being a Nazi," then post them on social media using pre-determined hashtags.
Screenshot from a 4Chan messageboard with instructions: Get pictures - search Image copyrightELIOT HIGGINS
These images are the same as those being circulated by fake anti-fascist accounts.
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The campaign appears to aim to discredit Antifa groups at a time of heightened tension in the United States after 32-year-old Heather Heyer was killed when protesting against a far-right march in Charlottesville last week.
Following the march, US President Donald Trump accused left-wing groups of being as equally to blame as far-right protestors for the violence, drawing widespread condemnation for equating the two.
Mr Higgins told the BBC the campaign was "pretty clumsy", with obvious signs of being orchestrated.
"Many of the accounts tweeting the images were clearly made in the last ten hours and had very few followers," Mr Higgins explained.
"This was a transparent and quite pathetic attempt, but I wouldn't be surprised if white nationalist groups try to mount more sophisticated attacks in the future."

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-41036631

[Grizzly]

Guess the "left" is mad as hell, and are not gonna take it any-more...lmao!



Better Call Saul, too!... geez.

“Your scorn for mediocrity blinds you to its vast primitive power. You stand in the glare of your own brilliance, unable to see into the dim corners of the room, to dilate your eyes and see the potential dangers of the mass, the wad of humanity. Even as I tell you this, dear student, you cannot quite believe that lesser men, in whatever numbers, can really defeat you. But we are in the age of the mediocre man. He is dull, colorless, boring — but inevitably victorious. The amoeba outlives the tiger because it divides and continues in its immortal monotony. The masses are the final tyrants. See how, in the arts, Kabuki wanes and withers while popular novels of violence and mindless action swamp the mind of the mass reader. And even in that timid genre, no author dares to produce a genuinely superior man as his hero, for in his rage of shame the mass man will send his yojimbo, the critic, to defend him. The roar of the plodders is inarticulate, but deafening. They have no brain, but they have a thousand arms to grasp and clutch at you, drag you down.”
― Trevanian

[seemslikeadream]

White supremacist forum site Stormfront seized by domain hosts

http://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/2017 ... ont-seized

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtPwZj9szD0

[JackRiddler]

EYEWITNESS ACCOUNT OF BLM/ANTIFA KKK AND SO CALLED NAZIS WITH FLAGS ARRIVING TOGETHER ON SAME BUSES

It's almost 7 minutes of a guy talking to his camera in a car. Some vague and unclear details about what he supposedly saw, followed by speculation. (If I saw such a bus in New York, by the way, I'd know the undercovers of the NYPD red squad had arrived.) Too bad he didn't train this device on the supposed buses disgorging the opposing protester teams (dispatched by the globalist spooks who pay for all protests, those insidious bastards). I mean, okay, I'll admit, that it has been documented in past cases that certain buses carried people going to opposing protests, back during the infamous Operation Greyhound.

[Sounder]

Sounder » Sat Aug 19, 2017 4:38 am wrote:

People are products of their time.

Jack wrote...
This is the laziest possible dumbshit platitude on earth. It is almost exclusively used to make excuses for alpha-male assholes and their atrocities, usually by people who have little reason to maintain an emotional stake in some past conflict, and yet do for some irrational reason

I'm flattered that i still catch your attention Jack. True things are often lazy platitudes. "almost exclusively", well there you have it then, the narrative that follows 'almost certainly' applies to me. ' Yes slavery is an atrocity, and there are more slaves today than there were during pre-civil war times. Many being sold in Libya as we speak. People are being triggered by statutes of racists and yet they (in general, and taking AD as a marker) also embrace a nation destroying 'world culture' promoted by NED, neo-cons and RTP partners all promoting trans-national corporations with the fig leaf of equality and alleged 'liberal' values. World culture promoters are racists given that local culture must be subverted and destroyed for the world culture to be established.

This woman is also a product of our times, and one would hope, not someone that real liberals would make apologies for.




'Fuck your constitution', by which she means 'the right to peacefully assemble and protest'. She wants violence.

I heard a lyric by a wonderful local singer/writer that said; 'I'm not going to make you be a better person by me being worse'.

I have heard enough from the preachers of violence.

[JackRiddler]

Yes slavery is an atrocity, and there are more slaves today than there were during pre-civil war times. Many being sold in Libya as we speak. People are being triggered by statutes of racists and yet they

(Earth population is also six times bigger.) Blah blah sophistry to the max, divert from the homegrown atrocity you prefer to apologize for by talking about something else, better yet, lump together a bunch of something elses and pretend I have to defend them, or else I must concede to your apologetics for Nazis murdering people on American streets with the encouragement of the U.S. president.

I have heard enough from the preachers of violence.

So stop listening to yourself.

.

[JackRiddler]

^^^
Nice, non-news...lol

I don't know why you say so. It's absolutely the standard practice of the American right. I don't mean standard propaganda such as is practiced by many parties, I mean this kind of lazy out-and-out black-is-white lying of the most easily exposed kind, aimed at the biggest morons. I don't think these are mistakes, there is a system. I had not seen this thing, but my first thought if I had would have indeed been that they were full of shit and that I would be able to find the actual source of the crowd photo to prove it. You can rely on this. You can actually rely on this to be wrong far more than 80% of the time. I think it is interesting that Republicanism is aimed at morons. If they did research or employed better logic or bothered with accurate facts, if they were less lazy, they'd actually be missing their core demographic, they would do worse not better. It's part of the power of the scam that this guy just went and found any fucking crowd photo and then labeled it like this (maybe even specifically looked for one from a poor black Northern city, something totally opposite to Phoenix, just for the kicks).

Of course, Republicanism is not the only such product, morons is a big and important market. It overlaps totally with what Trump does, which is why he was such a natural for the post-Nixon Republican party after 40 years of marination, and blew away the established Republicans so easily. He even sold the fundamentalists on the idea that he is a believing Christian! Imagine, this guy has been selling Trump University and casino games and Trump Steaks and Wrestlemania performances and the idea that he is a "businessman" and the idea that he is a competent boss and manager and a worthy judge of other human beings (their looks, their abilities at doing jobs, etc.) and the idea that he had investigators looking for Obama's birth certificate. He's been doing this kind of schtick for 30 years. And if he was better at any of this, in the sense of being able to do a rational scientific approach, if he was in any way less stupid and less obviously a scam (to the top 70 percent in intelligence, anyway) he'd be selling less of his shit!

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[Iamwhomiam]

How convenient you began your comment in this way, Jack:

I don't know why you say so. It's absolutely the standard practice of the American right. I don't mean standard propaganda such as is practiced by many parties, I mean this kind of lazy out-and-out black-is-white lying of the most easily exposed kind, aimed at the biggest morons. I don't think these are mistakes, there is a system.

I was about to comment on Grizzly's post with the video of Beatty's speech introduced with

Guess the "left" is mad as hell, and are not gonna take it any-more...lmao!

when I scrolled down and read your response, Jack.

In effect, by taking Beatty's speech out of context he's corrupted its meaning to convey something that is not its message or meaning. Here's the complete speech. See for yourself.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuBe93FMiJc

You got an agenda, Griz?

Here's the full bit. You shouldn't miss the opening line.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9XeyBd_IuA

[Sounder]

There are very few vids from you-tube that I can endorse without reservation, from my perspective, this is a gem.

I live in probably the most diverse city in these United States. It's very liberal and I have lived quite comfortably here for many years, greatly valuing both the diversity and my liberal friends. Still it does seem that liberals are no better at seeing they are being played than were the 'foreigner fearing' Birchers before them. There is big money for these operations, so of course they happen. Along with fakes for inoculation purposes.

[liminalOyster]

Sidenote but as per Stormfront's closure, is it really such a great idea to force radicalized white nationalists underground instead of allowing them to hate-wank out in the relative wide open? I'm on the fence but it seems wiser to allow nazi-dabblers their fetid outlet than to afford them any further claim to martyrdom.

[norton ash]

Innocent Sounder the sweet summer child.

Still it does seem that liberals are no better at seeing they are being played than were the 'foreigner fearing' Birchers before them. There is big money for these operations, so of course they happen. Along with fakes for inoculation purposes.

I don't give a fuck who's funding disruptors or outside agitators or fakes, but REAL people of good will will often demonstrate against hateful fascists without being paid, or just because they're suckers to your Soros-organized fever dreams. Birchers were indeed fucking suckers, while most of the 'liberals' who demonstrate do it out of civic engagement.

But absolutely everything's fake to you assholes, isn't it?

[Burnt Hill]

Sidenote but as per Stormfront's closure, is it really such a great idea to force radicalized white nationalists underground instead of allowing them to hate-wank out in the relative wide open? I'm on the fence but it seems wiser to allow nazi-dabblers their fetid outlet than to afford them any further claim to martyrdom.

Yes except that it also provides them a medium to recruit more idiots prone to being scammed.

[minime]

Innocent Sounder the sweet summer child.

Still it does seem that liberals are no better at seeing they are being played than were the 'foreigner fearing' Birchers before them. There is big money for these operations, so of course they happen. Along with fakes for inoculation purposes.

I don't give a fuck who's funding disruptors or outside agitators or fakes, but REAL people of good will will often demonstrate against hateful fascists without being paid, or just because they're suckers to your Soros-organized fever dreams. Birchers were indeed fucking suckers, while most of the 'liberals' who demonstrate do it out of civic engagement.

But absolutely everything's fake to you assholes, isn't it?

And from the three comes the two.