Malloy on Kos/Salon censorship of 9/11 / election fraud

[Rigorous Intuition]

Good rant <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://lakeholm.com/tmp/mike_malloy_rips_kos_on_911_and_BBV_ban.mp3">(mp3 here)</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> of Mike Malloy Monday night on Air America, going off on left gatekeepers. <p></p><i></i>

[yesferatu]

I have always heard it said that Malloy still tries to feign "not enough knowledge" on the subject of 9/11 if anyone would bring it up, as his out for not saying anything one way or another. Kinda like bartcop does. It gets pretty disingenuous (and cowardly) if, after four years one keeps saying "I just haven't researched it enough to say one way or the other." <br>Rrrrrrrrrriiiiiight.<br>I will give the mp3 a listen, though. Maybe he is outspoken...haven't heard him lately. <p></p><i></i>

[steve vegas]

To his credit, he doesn't believe the official story, he's said that numerous times. I love his show. <p></p><i></i>

[steve vegas]

Just now listening to this Malloy show. I can't freaking believe 'Kos is censoring 9/11 posts, what a total wanker. I've never liked the guy and I've never understood his popularity. His political <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>opinions</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> are tepid, sophomoric and at best 'centrist'. How he has become such a huge force is beyond me, perhaps he's part of the Republican program. I understand that many will say that discusssing 9/11 will make democrats look <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>crazy</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> and cost them the election, just like talking about the stolen vote will cost us the election, and on and on. I think there's a good chance that NOT talking about these issues will lose the election for the democrats. This guy is just riding the backs of his posters on his way to big money, he owns a house in S.F. for chris'sake. Our favorite blogger should be so lucky. Anyway, I can't stand the guy, I wish that Sam Seder would stop giving him such a wide berth on the majority report. <br><br>I'd like to emphasize that what I'm against is the censorship and the lukewarm sellout politics, I'm not trying to open a 9/11 can of worms. I don't know what the hell happened, but I do of course believe we have the right to discuss and investigate. Censoring comments on a blog, that you don't even contribute to that frequently, that you've opened up to thousands of diarists and frequent commentors, is bullshit. I think if we really want to know what happened on 9/11 we should just follow the money. In doing so we'll find the real perpetrators and tell the real story. Any other avenue, in my opinion should be tolerated and even encouraged as a means of generating interest and discussion, but ultimately we'll only discover the truth when we follow the money trail. <p></p><i></i>

[Pissed Off Cabbie]

If the term "left gatekeepers", and all it entails,isn't a commonality real soon, then the game will be over for the left. Kos, DU, Salon, The Nation, Z Magazine, Global Exchange, Noam Chomsky, etc, are the biggest traitors since Benedict Arnold.<br><br>It's great to hear Air America come out somewhat on this, but I want to hear them say it straight up- left gatekeepers. <p></p><i></i>

[heyjt]

The other talk personality on Air America that is really in the administrations face is Randi Rhodes.<br> Rhodes is constantly eluding to the idea that 911 was an inside job, and has read some very contraversial stuff on the air about it. <br> Last week she brought up the subject of the dominatrix in Nevada that claims to have witnessed G.W. Bush having gay sex with his ambassador friend. No one else would touch that on national radio.<br> Unfortunately, Al Franken is "the gatekeeper" for that network. Very mainstream.. I wish he'd just hurry up and run for Congress so someone else could get his time slot.<br> I also really like Thom Hartman, but was terribly dissapointed when I read the review of his book on the Kennedy assassination, which is saying it was all the Mafia, Mafia, Mafia...<br> Go Randi Rhodes! <p></p><i></i>

[medicis]

I share the view (with others above) that Kos is a fraud... maybe a repub disinfo kinda guy. I like transparency, I like it when any topic can be discussed. And, yes Watson, 911 was MIHOP. In a while - how many years, months, whatever until the fascist other shoe drops? the next 911 that 'justifies' martial law, the petrodollar collapses? more and more starve, ...... whaddaya gonna do? Because it -is- coming.<br><br>thanks for letting me intrude. usually i just read.<br><br>oh, and somewhere I have the recording of Mike Malloy the night when he finally acknowledged 911. I am sure it is at white rose as well. I just can't remember the date. <p></p><i></i>

[yesferatu]

<<oh, and somewhere I have the recording of Mike Malloy the night when he finally acknowledged 911. >><br><br>How recent was this? I heard he keeps claiming not to know enough. <br><br>Bartcop kept asking for a smoking gun....for 4 fucking years he kept asking that. <br>Then he posted a pic of one of the squibs shooting out of the tower below the collapsing floors and finally says that (he qualifies here) "appears" to be the smoking gun. I guess he weighed how he was going to maintain credibility and figured which subscribers he had more of (a financial decision), decided it was the 9/11 truth types and so made a nod toward them.<br><br>Does Malloy have a financial reason as to why it took him years to acknowledge 9/11? I mean Randi had spoken up, and they didn't fire her. And it's not like Malloy is averse to "research"...so did he explain why it took - what most of us saw in 72 hours - years? <br>Just curious.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[NewKid]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Does Malloy have a financial reason as to why it took him years to acknowledge 9/11? I mean Randi had spoken up, and they didn't fire her. And it's not like Malloy is averse to "research"...so did he explain why it took - what most of us saw in 72 hours - years? <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I have no idea, but I suspect that the leaders of Air America at some point became personally open to the idea that 9-11 was an inside job (or possibly they always had, but just now feel that the situation is urgent enough to say something). <br><br>One of the top Air America execs did a Huffington Post basically saying he thought 9-11 was an inside job. So while AA were huge gatekeepers across the board during the 2004 election, I think at some point, for whatever reason, people in that organization have been at liberty to speak their mind on 9-11 publicly. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=newkid@rigorousintuition>NewKid</A> at: 6/22/06 2:44 am<br></i>

[heyjt]

About Kos: I certainly DON'T believe he is some kind of fraud. He and others like him are treading a fine line of credability. Blogs are trashed enough as it is. I watched his interview on Meet The Press (or Press The Meat) and was actually proud for what he said.<br> Sure these people are "gatekeepers". But give the grassroots some time to grow. The last two "elections" were swindled by a handfull of votes. Time for an undenyable groundswell of regular people and average non-voters to join in. <br> Blogs like RI assess the high crimes. If the Dems can take the House, there will be investigations and revelations. If not, then all is lost. <p></p><i></i>

[HamdenSRice]

Kos=Craigslist=Microsoft=Network Efficiencies<br><br>In other words, Kos is not the "best" blogger any more than Craigslist is the "best" bulletin board or Microsoft creates the best software. In each case they are lucky to be the beneficiaries of network efficiencies -- an economic theory that has been often applied to Microsoft.<br><br>The idea is that when any competing networks are being built, the one that gets the most connections and users will succeed, whether it qualitatively is the best or not, because the very value of networks is the number of users.<br><br>So once MS pulled ahead of IBM's OS2 and other alternatives, everyone basically had to use MS DOS, because users were using it and software engineers were writing for that platform. <br><br>Daily Kos draws the most readers primarily because it draws the most readers and writers. It's tautological, but it certainly has nothing whatsoever to do with any particular talent of Kos himself. In fact, like early MS, he is hopelessly incompetent, and is doing a lot (without realizing it) to destroy his position of advantage -- such as banning discussion of theories (like election fraud) that turn out later to be true. <p></p><i></i>

[stickdog99]

Don't forget the QWERTY keyboard you are typing on and the three gas stations at every interstate exit when it comes to network (in)efficiencies. <p></p><i></i>

[steve vegas]

Brilliant summation. Thank you. <p></p><i></i>

[dranek7]

I seem to remember Markos saying something about being cleared and recruited to join the Agency at around the same time he started the blog...and then there was the front-pager Armando who moonlights as a white shoe attorney representing Wal-Mart.<br><br>Sometimes things get curiouser and curiouser. <p></p><i></i>