Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:23 pm

MacCruiskeen » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:43 am wrote:Over the last 24 hours, contributions to his GoFundMe have suddenly dried up. Precisely one donation in that time. An appearance on Hannity would surely have boosted donations enormously and instantly.


And suddenly, as of today: the GoFundMe campaign for Jesus Campos is "closed and no longer active":

https://www.gofundme.com/because-we-all ... e-together

Jesus Campos, suddenly averse to fame, suddenly indifferent to money.

Who is paying for his private armed guard?
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Oct 14, 2017 3:17 pm

Las Vegas Sheriff Joe Lombardo graduated from the FBI National Academy in 2006:

In Clark County sheriff race, Joe Lombardo, Larry Burns will pit police brass against police union

By Joe Schoenmann
Friday, June 27, 2014 | 2 a.m.

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Clark County sheriff candidates Larry Burns and Joe Lombardo.

[...]

Joe Lombardo

Lombardo, 52, is the son of an Air Force veteran. He was born in Japan, then moved to Las Vegas in 1976 and graduated from Rancho High School.

He earned two degrees from UNLV, one in civil engineering and a master’s degree in crisis management. He graduated from the FBI National Academy and joined the Army, serving in the National Guard and the Army Reserve. He’s been with Metro for 25 years.

In forums and at press conferences, Lombardo seems less comfortable than Burns as a speaker. Those who know him say Lombardo is more interested in results than niceties. They also say he’s a research and policy wonk.

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2014/jun/2 ... rry-burns/


(Note also: "In forums and at press conferences, Lombardo seems less comfortable than Burns as a speaker.")

In 2006, he completed his Masters of Science from the University of Nevada, Las Vegas, NV, as well as completing the 227th Session of the FBI National Academy.

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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby 82_28 » Sat Oct 14, 2017 3:23 pm

Compliments of our old buddy Nordic who I still interact with on FB. Just in case he's still lurking -- credit where credit's due:

Las Vegas Shooting Survivor Kymberley Suchomel, Who Claimed Multiple Shooters Involved, Dies Unexpectedly

Just over a week after living through the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history in Las Vegas on October 1, shooting survivor and witness Kymberley Suchomel passed away at the age of 28. Suchomel was uninjured in the shooting at the Route 91 Harvest Festival, and after the terrifying event she used her Facebook presence to contradict the official story of a lone gunman. According to Kymberley Suchomel’s posts, there were multiple shooters involved in the horrific mass shooting that left 58 people dead and 546 injured. In fact, Suchomel, who was the co-founder of the High Desert Phoenix Foundation (a charity that financially assists victims of tragedies), claimed that she and those in her party were “chased” by more than one active shooter.

“Bullets were coming from every direction. Behind us, in front of us, to the side of us. But I know, I just know, that there was someone chasing us. The entire time I felt this way. The farther we got from the venue, the closer the gunfire got. I kept looking back expecting to see the gunmen- and I say MEN because there was more than one person. There was more than one gun firing. 100% more than one.
As we were running, we kept changing direction, because it felt like no matter what direction we took, we were being followed.”

As Seacoast Online reports, Las Vegas shooting survivor Kymberley Suchomel was found dead early Monday in her home by her grandmother and High Desert Phoenix Foundation co-founder, Julie Norton. According to Norton, she found her granddaughter deceased in her bed at around 8:30 a.m. on October 9. Norton had reportedly come to the home to babysit Suchomel’s 3-year-old daughter.

According to Norton, she believes that her granddaughter must have died in her sleep sometime between when her husband left for work at 4:30 a.m. and when she arrived to tend to her granddaughter. Julie Norton added that Kymberley Suchomel was epileptic, and that she believes the stress of the Las Vegas shooting may have directly contributed to the 28-year-old’s death.

“Kymberley had epilepsy and she’s always been prone to seizures — she told her friend that she recently had three focal seizures. I believe the stress from the shooting took her life.”

Suchomel was also reportedly taking medication to treat a pituitary tumor at the time of her death.

Since the Las Vegas shooting, Kymberley Suchomel has spoken out publicly on social media about the horror of witnessing the the attack that targeted more than 20,000 concert attendees on October 1. In her own words, she found herself in a “state of shock” following the attack. In an interview with the VV Daily Press, Suchomel cited lingering insomnia and memories of the sound of gunfire.

“I’m most definitely in a state of shock and it will take some time for me to get over this. I haven’t been able to sleep and I still keep hearing the sound of loud pops in my head.”

Suchomel also publicly recalled her frantic escape from the concert area, claiming that terrified attendees were forced to tear down a fence at the venue when they couldn’t find another means of escape. Kymberley said that she and her group were “literally inches” away from people being shot as they fled, and that she called both her husband and grandmother to tell them “goodbye” during the traumatic ordeal.

Roughly 72 hours after the Las Vegas shooting, Kymberley Suchomel recounted her recollection of the events of October 1 in a public Facebook post. Near the end of the lengthy description of how she and her group of friends escaped the barrage of bullets, Suchomel claimed that media and official accounts of the Las Vegas shooting didn’t match what she and other eyewitnesses saw. She even wrote that some of the evidence touted by authorities “seems fake.”

What’s more, Suchomel claimed that “every single other survivor” of the Vegas shooting that she’d spoken to believed that there was more than one shooter that night, and that at least one of the shooters involved was on the ground.

“I have bene watching the news non-stop since I arrived back home to my family. And it just doesn’t make sense. The story that are feeding everyone doesn’t add up to our eyewitness accounts. There is something wrong with what they are saying & the evidence seems fake if you ask me. There are multiple people stating that there was a lady towards the beginning of the evening who had made her way up to the stage warning people that we were all gunna die- her and her boyfriend were escorted off the premises. Why has she not been mentioned by authorities? Every single survivor I have talked to also remembers multiple shooters, and at least one from the ground- why aren’t we being taken more seriously? Tons of things don’t add up. [sic]”

Since news of her death broke earlier this week, many have taken to social media to express their shock and disbelief.

Vegas sheriff seems to be very sensitive to any kind of conspiracy going on….

— Bob Dailey (@skinslapper1) October 13, 2017

Kymberley Suchomel. Look up this poor woman. What happened to her?

— ❌ JB ❌ (@JawNeyBee) October 13, 2017

but the question is DID Kymberley Suchomel DESCRIBE ANYTHING ABOUT MULTIPLE SHOOTERS? #highincidentproject

— THE REAL DARK JUDGE (@ROYALMRBADNEWS) October 13, 2017

Las Vegas shooting survivor Kymberley Suchomel was found deceased just days before victim and security guard Jesus Campos was scheduled to break his silence about what happened that night. On Thursday evening, Campos had lined up five TV interviews with various news outlets. As Fox News reports, moments before he was expected to appear before the cameras, Jesus Campos simply vanished. As of Friday morning, his whereabouts were still unknown.

Kymberley Suchomel’s sudden and unexpected death also came just days before the Las Vegas Police Department made a significant change to their official timeline of events on the night of the mass shooting. As CNN reports, Sheriff Joe Lombardo detailed the updated information in a Friday press conference, and the changes to the timeline were directly connected to the injuries suffered by Jesus Campos. Initially, investigators believed that Campos was shot through a 32nd floor hotel room door by presumed “lone wolf” shooter Stephen Paddock at 9:59 p.m. on October 1, six full minutes before the gunman opened fire on the crowd of concertgoers below.

Now, investigators say that Campos was unable to access Paddock’s hotel room at 9:59 p.m., and was forced to find an alternate route that didn’t allow him to reach the door until roughly 10:05 p.m. Authorities now claim that Paddock shot Campos through his hotel room door at that time, then immediately (or within 40 seconds) opened fire on the crowd that included Kymberley Suchomel and roughly 20,000 additional country music fans.

In his Friday press conference, Sheriff Lombardo admitted that as the investigation into the Las Vegas shooting advances, it’s possible that the timeline will continue to be refined, and that it’s possible that “new facts” may be reported.

“This is a very dynamic event.”

Memorial services are currently being planned for Kymberley Suchomel. Her cause of death is being reported as “natural causes,” and it is unknown if an autopsy is planned.


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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby Burnt Hill » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:24 pm

Hey 82_28 elfismiles posted the Kymberley Suchomel story last page also.

I have to wonder what type of pituitary tumor it was and her prognosis.

Also she gives a pretty good description of how it would be if someone were shooting from above and away - bullet would be flying all around giving the impression they were coming from different sources.
She never does describe an actual shooter though, does she? Just changing directions based on where she thought the bullets were coming from.

Also, she probably isn't the only person the had the impression of multiple shooters.
And we already know what she had to say. She posted it.
Why would she be a target? Killing her brings more attention to her story.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby Brentos » Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:07 pm

Interesting that Kymberley's account matches Gio's, especially the mention of the initial fireworks. So the fireworks may have been set off before the intial few pops of gunfire. But were not loud enough to be caught on the fb & youtube audio clearly, posted earlier.

Their accounts of there being more going on at ground level, also lines up with this cnn witness of multiple shooters posted far back in the thread. Where she felt they were literally herded. Also mention of initial fireworks, and of course the lights being flipped on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rArn0pk1H7Q

As far as Laura Loomer not being legit, because she has different politic views, I don't understand that. Why throw the baby out with the bathwater? She is doing the job that a real reporter should be doing, doesnt mean I have to agree with her assumptions or political views.

fwiw:
FBI WIPES PHONES & LAPTOPS OF LAS VEGAS MASSACRE EYEWITNESSES
Route 91 workers get devices back with videos, messages deleted

https://www.infowars.com/report-fbi-wip ... witnesses/
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:17 pm

Political views? Loving The Festering Darkness That is Steve Bannon.....is NOT about political views, it is about a persons view of decency that is in question

and what's up with the Mr. Pizzagate Hannity interview ..how did that rumor get started?


JACK POSOBIEC.... LAURA LOOMER.....Mike Cernovich....ALEX JONES... :roll:

this is a great thread but it is not necessary to go down the path of Alex Jones

if Laura is pushing stuff one might think it has become a Trolls for trump/bannon distraction


sorry stickdog99 we are parting ways on Loomer


The protester onstage appears to be pro-Trump activist Laura Loomer, who posted what appeared to be a first-person video of the incident to her Periscope account. She and Posobiec have contributed to The Rebel Media, a right-wing website.
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/NY ... 15263.html
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby minime » Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:49 pm

Not worth it. Like killing a mockingbird.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby Brentos » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:04 pm

My point is, for instance, I dont agree with all of Hopsickers views, but I dont necessarily throw out all his research, far from it. Same with other people, who may or may not be disinfo, which mixes fact with fiction. Its up to the mature and discerning person to way up whats valuable, and whats not. Without actually experiencing something, the rest is just hearsay (in terms of potential for tampering or chinese whispers), no matter what the source. Laura Loomer appears to have actually gone to Campos' house, and reported what she saw. Im aware that she may have an agenda.
(As an aside, I see both alt-left and alt-right being generated and now self generated memes that are focused on, so they can create more chaos/polarization when they attack each other. Rather than the majority of disenfranchised on either side who are reasonable and actually seeing what they have in common, with mature dialogue, vs the (sometimes literally) black & white thinking, that is promoted by BS artists on either side. Interesting how the increasing WTO protests got nixed quickly back in the late 90s, with the new enemy of terrorism, that the status quo imo, used to keep people distracted. )

AJ is very destructive hot mess and panders to a particular audience, and I do not agree with much of his outlook. He has an agenda, I also suspect his initial Bohemian Grove video may have been a cover for him to become a constructed vanguard/pied piper for a certain group. So yeah, I'm fully aware of Bannon and AJ etc.. also fully aware of biases of others on the "left", who I traditionally identify/identified with.

I posted the AJ/Paul Watson article, because it linked to alleged real FB accounts. I dont know if they are real or not, but posted in case other perhaps more reliable sources are found.

*So yeah, I will not discuss anymore on the veracity of sources like AJ or Loomer, make up your own mind.*

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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:09 pm

she's in it for the money ...as usual

this is NOT personal towards you Brentos

this is just my view and it is the last I will say about it....I am glad you are posting here Brentos please don't let my disagreement with Loomer affect that

“Julius Caesar” stage crasher nets financial windfall
Freelaura.com, which solicits donations for Laura Loomer’s defense, was set up prior to her protest

On June 16, the night she rushed the stage in the name of patriotism, Levant registered the domain freelaura.com, used to solicit donations for her legal defense fees, at 18:07:43 UTC or 2:07 p.m. EST — hours before Loomer would have even been inside the theater. The timing of freelaura.com's launch was first mentioned in a series of tweets by Josh Jordan, but has since been independently verified by Salon.
Loomer also promoted a WeSearchr page that has, at the time of writing this article, raised $12,385 from 241 contributors. It's pinned at the top of her Twitter page. Originally, the site's goal was set to raise $25,000. That goal has since been removed. The funds currently raised are substantially more than Loomer would need to pay given the normal penalties levied for the charges she is facing.
Since her stage crash, Loomer has been featured on Fox Business, interviewed by Sean Hannity (who praised her) and interviewed by Alex Jones on Infowars. The result has meant a boost to her personal brand and, it seems, a cash inflow to freelaura.com.
https://www.salon.com/2017/06/21/laura- ... freelaura/


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so amusing that I have had to endure for over a year MacCruiskeen's personal attacks and trashing every single source I have used but when it comes to Alex Jones.... Loomer....Hannity...Fox News...World Net Daily his silence is defining.

questioning a source is NOT an unusual thing here...I've had to live with it and so should everyone else here
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby Elvis » Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:52 pm

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:shrug:


Holly‏ @Somebody6588 18h18 hours ago
Replying to @pearseshaun @LauraLoomer

I went back to make a video showing the properties and i was in disbelief the photo had been updated to strip the info.
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Shaun Pearse‏ @pearseshaun 17h17 hours ago

Yep they've re-uploaded it with all the properties cleared. Too late though. I'm saddened that it must be us vs them. Should be cooperation.
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Holly‏ @Somebody6588 17h17 hours ago

I agree completely
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End of conversation

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Holly‏ @Somebody6588 20h20 hours ago

Replying to @pearseshaun @LauraLoomer

I verified this myself, it does show it was taken on 9/10/17 @ 9:08pm & Adobe CS6, gps coordinates also appear in properties check yourself
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Mafe Castillo‏ @Mafe23castillo 15h15 hours ago

I’m in denial trying not to speculate but your saying this picture was taken September 10 and the media is saying it was taken oct 10? So that means this was completely preplanned with this being the most disgusting evidence???????
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby SonicG » Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:30 pm

Ohhh, Loomer was the JC stage crasher? What an idiot...I really cannot get behind, "well, they might be on the other side of the political spectrum but..." It is not that. It is the fact that those alt-right "journos" are scam artists who have shown zero sense of intelligence. Loomer went out to harass Campos. Great. That is why is has a security guard - to keep shrill idiots from harassing him and his family. I am not saying it is all 100% kosher, but really, does she think she will corner him in an interview, getting Campos to reveal that it was all a massive hoax and point fingers at the his illuminati handlers? I am happy to see these alt-right idiots get their panties in a wad and start beseeching Trump to reveal the "truth" - really sock it to the "Deep State"! Sure, right after he finishes bombing Iran at the behest of the real power-brokers Kissinger and Adelson...
Honestly. I see the doubts regarding what and how this went down, but following pizzagate idiots...well, good luck with that...


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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby Brentos » Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:14 pm

seemslikeadream » Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:09 pm wrote:
this is NOT personal towards you Brentos

this is just my view and it is the last I will say about it....I am glad you are posting here Brentos please don't let my disagreement with Loomer affect that


No worries seemslikeadream. Not taken personally. :) She does sound like a right piece of work.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby elfismiles » Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:47 am

I went to school with the Vegas shooter
Friday, October 13, 2017
By Greg Palast
http://www.gregpalast.com/went-school-vegas-shooter/

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Mobile home on tracks, Sun Valley CA, birthplace of the Vegas shooter. From the film The Best Democracy Money Can Buy.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:10 pm

MacCruiskeen » Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:17 am wrote:
NEWS LAS VEGAS SHOOTING OCT 4 2017, 4:11 AM ET
Las Vegas Gunman Meticulously Planned Shooting, Sheriff Says
by ALEX JOHNSON

[...]

The photos show crime scene tape crisscrossing the room's bullet-pocked door, as well as a gun with a scope and what appears to be a room service table. No other weapons are visible in the photos. Clark County Undersheriff Kevin McMahill confirmed Tuesday night that the photos were authentic.

Lombardo made it clear that he was deeply distressed by their publication.

"I can tell you I'm very troubled by it," he said. "We have an internal investigation going as we speak as to how those photographs were obtained."


...

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-v ... ys-n807296
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LOL. Good luck with that "internal investigation", Sheriff Joe Lombardo. Keep us posted on the results. The chain of custody on those crime-scene photos will surely turn out to be an impenetrable mystery. Why, at least 1 police photographer + 1 spook must have had access to them. That makes 2, and there's simply no way a lowly sheriff can hope to unravel such a Gordian knot, at least not if he knows what his job's worth.


So how's that internal investigation coming along, Sheriff? Been 11 days since that leak, and you told us you were "very troubled" by it.

Surely the FBI's doing everything in its power to help?
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:26 pm

The fact that it was (boo! hiss!) Laura Loomer who found it all out means that:

- Jesus Campos does NOT, after all, have a private armed guard.

- There is, after all, NO unmarked car parked in front of his house.

- Stephen Paddock did NOT, after all, check into the Mandalay a full three days before the cops originally said he had.

We just dreamt it.

(It's vitally important to establish the principle that anything reported by a Bad Person must be denied, even if it turns out to be demonstrably and undeniably true.)
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