Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby brekin » Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:30 pm

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Nope, not buying the official narrative on mass shootings.


Jeezus, there threads deserve their own cat meme.
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Postby IanEye » Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:42 pm

stickdog99 » Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:28 am wrote:The rescue workers seem conspicuously absent here:

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WARNING! You may consider the blown up picture too gory:

https://i.redd.it/b5x46pelshrz.jpg



The place is completely cleared out (30,000 PEOPLE) for who knows how long, yet there is no EMT response.
It does not get any more obvious than this that it was a government op, with massive complicity at many levels.
Throughout the night, regardless of what the complicit MSM says, to get a high fatality count people were simply left to die.



The above quote is odd on many levels.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnn-GvRPh-w

The photo attached to that quote could have been taken about 10 minutes after the above video i have linked to.
It is still very much an active situation, as the people in the lower right hand portion of the photo clearly indicate.

But hey, let's have "fun" with that quote:



It does not get any more obvious than this that it was a government op, with massive complicity at many levels.





Throughout the month, regardless of what the complicit MSM says, to get a high fatality count people were simply left to die.




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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby SonicG » Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:58 pm

"I love it when a plan comes together!"

I blame the incursion of A Jones-style "conspiracy theory" taking precedence over, say, Naomi Klein's more broad-based approach. The thinking of the PTB: "Catastrophes are happening more and more, so may as well take advantage of them as best as possible, and if it makes a bunch of people think the government is faking all of it, so be it...they can chase their tails all they want while the war/death/terror/capital accumulation machine moves forward, undaunted..."

That said, there is still a lot of fishiness in this incident, especially with the room next door. It is going to be very interesting how far people like Coulter and Hannity pursue this. My guess is not too far. Ellen and Adelson love Las Vegas. Red-blooded Americans love Las Vegas. Asians with liquid funds to burn love LV...I am sure even Russians love LV. So let's all come together, overcome, kneel down...be good patriots...
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Postby IanEye » Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:36 pm

SonicG » Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:58 pm wrote:"I love it when a plan comes together!"

So let's all come together.


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yablonsky » Thu Nov 24, 2005 1:27 am wrote:thanks everyone for the suggestions: i have a pet ambition to build a personal library on deep politics and the like but sometimes it's hard to conceptualize how to prioritize purchases.

Denton/Morris: The Power & The Money (Vegas from JFK to Lansky to Harry Reid - fwiw my handle is taken from this book)

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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:04 pm

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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby Spook » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:05 pm

So, if I’m reading this right:
1/ Paddock was married to a lady who lived in Australia for a period of time.
2/ She is probably an Australian citizen given how easy it is to secure citizenship there, and the fact that she has family there.
3/ Coincidentally an Australian was occupying the room next to Paddock’s.
4/ This room possibly had an adjoining door to Paddock’s suite
5/ This room also had a broken window
6/ Paddock has a room service receipt for two people.

Maybe there is a connection between the two Australians?
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Postby IanEye » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:06 pm

Denton and Morris contend that Las Vegas, with its roots in the mob, became the "greatest business success story of the 20th century" with the help of a nation that worships money and corruption.

Part of that story is told in a chapter that sanitizes the exploits of Joseph Yablonsky, who headed the Las Vegas FBI office from 1980 to 1983 when the Justice Department was conducting a nationwide crackdown on organized crime and its influence on the Strip.

The book credits Yablonsky, once the FBI's self-described "King of Sting," with helping turn the tide in the war on the mob in Las Vegas.

"Despite the powers arrayed against him in Washington and Las Vegas," the authors write, "despite the fact that millions skimmed from Nevada casinos during the period continued to provide organized crime and its growing number of legitimate outlets more cash than from any other criminal source, including the vast drug traffic, Yablonsky's record would be impressive."

But in an interview with the Sun, Gerald Swanson, who served alongside Yablonsky as director of the Internal Revenue Service in Nevada, offered a more critical opinion of the controversial FBI chief's tenure here.

Breaking a 19-year-silence, Swanson described Yablonsky as a rogue agent who ruined Swanson's promising IRS career because he stood in the way of Yablonsky's overzealous efforts to nail a federal judge who had been critical of the government.

"I've dealt with federal agencies for more than 20 years, and Yablonsky was the most unethical federal agent I've ever seen," Swanson said. "He was a headhunter. To him, the end justified the means."

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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby SonicG » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:14 pm

She is a citizen but she never married Paddock, just gf...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... d465c1d4f5

https://www.metro.us/news/the-big-stori ... en-paddock

She has dropped off the radar because she "had no idea of what he was planning..."
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:16 pm

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Come on, IE. This was not a third would country. This was the Vegas Strip, for Jesus' sake!

You do not find it strange in the least that there is no sign of any police, event security, event medical practitioners, paramedics, or anybody else doing anything at all to attend to (and potentially save the very lives of) any of the casualties in the above photo?

Instead, you wish to "have some fun with" anyone with temerity to question this strange aspect of the scene?

Ha, Ha, Ha!

bigger picture: https://i.redd.it/03vee8upuipz.jpg

I see at least one civilian attending to one of the victims and at least one walking around on the field. I see no sign of any professional security guard, policeman, medical practitioners, paramedic or emergency responder of any kind. While this is not totally inexplicable if the photo were taken within seconds of the shooting ending, I do find it somewhat strange. How about you? Note that the entire scene looks pretty deserted and desolate, and the living people remaining do appear to be actively taking cover, so what reasons so we have to believe that it was not taken long after the shooting ended?
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby SonicG » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:22 pm

Lots of tidbits in those stories:
The aversion to human interaction even extended into Paddock’s flying, said the broker, who, like Paddock, enjoyed piloting personal planes.

At the time of their acquaintance, Paddock had a sleek new aircraft — a Cirrus SR20. On the handful of flights they made together, Paddock would map out his path — steering away from controlled areas — just to avoid having to talk to the air traffic controllers, the broker said.

Paddock’s dislike for human contact, the real estate broker said, was in part why he preferred playing video poker, a type of gambling that does not require interaction with other players.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby Spook » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:22 pm

Hopefully this is not a rabbit hole.

Brian Hodge who was in the adjoining room does share a small common connection to Paddock’s wife.

Brian worked on the Gold Coast, which put him in the same town as her.
Where he worked was a 10 minute drive from where she lived.

He worked at Jupiters Casino.
Would Paddock have ever gambled there I wonder?

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/las-vegas-shooting-queensland-eyewitness-to-mandalay-attack/news-story/17c907f4046f30ccfedf831e27e93cc8
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Postby IanEye » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:30 pm

stickdog99 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:16 pm wrote:
Instead, you wish to "have some fun with" anyone with temerity to question this strange aspect of the scene?



to be clear, you are saying that you (stickdog99), wrote the text on that image?

again, for your viewing pleasure:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnn-GvRPh-w

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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby SonicG » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:35 pm

I haven't seen any reporting of Paddock in Oz. She has sisters there and there is this:
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/nati ... 49f312e319

Paddock had only been with her a few years but this connection with Hodge needs to be pushed harder. I never relaized the photo of the room service cart was in front of the adjoining room...Also look for Hodge's room number to change or for him to disappear from the news...
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby Burnt Hill » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:45 pm

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It appears that the one woman is still ducking.
She may be compressing a wound.
Exactly what time was the photo taken?

First responders are trained to not become victims.

There is also a video showing someone walking through the victims looking for signs of life.

No human being with appropriate training would?/ should hesitate to provide lifesaving assistance in this situation - when it was safe to intervene.

This is probably a dead end that feels disrespectful to the victims of this crime.

Seconds feel like minutes, minutes like hours in these situations.
No doubt those that suffered believe that help should have come sooner, and it should have.
The suggestion that help was delayed intentionally I find improbable.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby IanEye » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:56 pm

Burnt Hill » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:45 pm wrote:


This is probably a dead end that feels disrespectful to the victims of this crime.


Indeed.
Especially since the most eloquent quote states:

IanEye » Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:42 pm wrote:



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