Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby minime » Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:55 am

stickdog99 » Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:27 am wrote:When else in human history has a single comfortable, old individual ever killed himself (or herself) right after murdering a bunch random strangers (and only total strangers) in a completely premeditated fashion?

Since "it's not as if it never happens", you can easily cite many historical precedents. Right?

When?

Seriously, why is something that has never, ever happened before (and for good fucking reason because it is the very definition of completely and utterly pointless evil) so incredibly believable to just about everyone, including all of you? What makes all of you want to believe this is so believable?


What does that even mean?
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby Rory » Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:09 pm

minime » Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:55 am wrote:
stickdog99 » Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:27 am wrote:When else in human history has a single comfortable, old individual ever killed himself (or herself) right after murdering a bunch random strangers (and only total strangers) in a completely premeditated fashion?

Since "it's not as if it never happens", you can easily cite many historical precedents. Right?

When?

Seriously, why is something that has never, ever happened before (and for good fucking reason because it is the very definition of completely and utterly pointless evil) so incredibly believable to just about everyone, including all of you? What makes all of you want to believe this is so believable?


What does that even mean?


That's rich coming from you, you obtuse gobshite
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby minime » Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:52 pm

Rory » Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:09 pm wrote:
minime » Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:55 am wrote:
stickdog99 » Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:27 am wrote:When else in human history has a single comfortable, old individual ever killed himself (or herself) right after murdering a bunch random strangers (and only total strangers) in a completely premeditated fashion?

Since "it's not as if it never happens", you can easily cite many historical precedents. Right?

When?

Seriously, why is something that has never, ever happened before (and for good fucking reason because it is the very definition of completely and utterly pointless evil) so incredibly believable to just about everyone, including all of you? What makes all of you want to believe this is so believable?


What does that even mean?


That's rich coming from you, you obtuse gobshite


If ever you want to know what I mean, you could ask, like I just did.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:40 pm

What I mean is that nobody in the world seems at all surprised that an old, comfortable person would make elaborate plans to murder dozens of strangers and then himself without any motive, despite not being able to name a single similar event in all the history of the world. So how have all of us, including me, been conditioned to look at Paddock's face and then shrug, "Sure, I could see that guy shooting hundreds and then himself for no reason. That's obviously the most likely explanation for this."

How has a single comfortable, old individual committing completely motiveless mass murder of total strangers and then suicide turned into something completely expected, despite it never having happened before?

Or to put it another way, if such behavior is so credible, so much more likely than yet another psyop, why hasn't it ever happened before?
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby minime » Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:22 pm

stickdog99 » Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:40 pm wrote:What I mean is that nobody in the world seems at all surprised that an old, comfortable person would make elaborate plans to murder dozens of strangers and then himself without any motive, despite not being able to name a single similar event in all the history of the world. So how have all of us, including me, been conditioned to look at Paddock's face and then shrug, "Sure, I could see that guy shooting hundreds and then himself for no reason. That's obviously the most likely explanation for this."

How has a single comfortable, old individual committing completely motiveless mass murder of total strangers and then suicide turned into something completely expected, despite it never having happened before?

Or to put it another way, if such behavior is so credible, so much more likely than yet another psyop, why hasn't it ever happened before?


Again, sad to say, I believe I have read the thread in toto, and in my opinion the only person who has come out and said they believe Paddock dunnit is Lucky, just recently, and he/she might even contest that such an assertion was made.

Heaven Swan? I think she's going for the 'Original Sin' angle, meaning we're all guilty (genderly speaking, of course). She might want to weigh in and clarify.

Whom exactly do you have in mind?

Most everyone here at RI is in wait-and-see mode, in my opinion. Well, maybe not Mac.

And of course, we'll never know for sure... even if there is video of the event showing multiple points of view.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:17 pm

https://www.yahoo.com/news/one-month-la ... 00347.html

The shattered windows were boarded up weeks ago, and the crime scene across the street largely cleared of the shoes, bags and other personal effects left behind when thousands of concertgoers ran for their lives.

But one month after Stephen Paddock unleashed a hail of bullets onto the crowd at the Route 91 Harvest music festival from the windows of his 32nd-floor suite at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino in Las Vegas — killing 58 people and injuring more than 540 in the worst mass shooting in the nation’s modern history — the investigation of the crime seems frozen in time.

After weeks of interviewing the lone gunman’s family and associates, and combing through his two homes and belongings for clues, police appear to be no closer to understanding why Paddock, a 64-year-old real estate investor and avid gambler with no record of mental illness, or political or religious extremism, became a mass killer. Or if they are, they aren’t saying.

The lack of understanding is in stark contrast to Tuesday’s deadly truck attack in New York City — and numerous other mass killings in recent years — where there were clear ideological or religious motives.

It’s been more than two weeks since officials with the Las Vegas police and the FBI briefed the public, bringing an abrupt stop to the flow of information about the case. Until then, investigators had been unusually forthcoming, holding frequent news conferences in the days after the shooting. They released video from police body cameras and put forward police officers who told harrowing accounts of responding to the scene and closing in on the hotel room from which Paddock had unleashed his horror.

But then there were a series of missteps, including the release of a timeline of the shooting that turned out to be wrong. The last time Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo, who has been the face of the investigation, spoke publicly about the case was Oct. 13, when he went before reporters to correct a comprehensive timeline of the shooting he had released previously.

But in doing so, Lombardo only raised more questions about his department’s handling of the investigation. A month later, it’s still unclear why it took officers 12 minutes after the shooting began to reach the hotel’s 32nd floor, where the gunman’s suite was located, and why it took more than an hour after the shooting stopped for cops to enter the room.

And one of the biggest mysteries continues to be what communication there was, if any, between police and Mandalay Bay. Paddock had shot a security guard who approached his room on an unrelated call just before he began shooting out the window. Jesus Campos, the wounded security guard, told talk show host Ellen DeGeneres — in his only public interview — that he immediately radioed hotel security to tell them he had been shot. But it’s still unclear how or if casino officials communicated that information to the police.

According to the latest timeline released in the case, Campos first discovered something was amiss on the 32nd floor around 9:59 that night, when he found a stairwell door near Paddock’s room barricaded with a metal bar. At the time, Campos later told authorities, he heard the sounds of what he thought was a power drill, which he found unusual. He went down to the 31st floor and took another route up to the 32nd floor.

As Campos approached room 135, where Paddock was staying, the gunman — who had been watching the hallway outside his room through a baby monitor he set up on a room service cart — suddenly shot through the door, spraying bullets and wounding the guard in the leg. It was 10:05 p.m., roughly around the time police believe Paddock began shooting across the street toward the site of the Route 91 Harvest festival.

{stickdog's note: This is the reporter's own personal "correction" of official FBI timeline, perhaps influenced by the NY Time's video editor's similar correction?}

Though Campos and a hotel maintenance worker who had also arrived on the floor both radioed word of the shooting, police apparently didn’t identify where the shots were coming from for several minutes. According to the timeline, police reached the 31st floor at 10:12 p.m., where officers reported that shots were coming from the floor above them. They finally reached the 32nd floor at 10:17 p.m. —two minutes after Paddock stopped shooting. Police did not breach Paddock’s room until 11:20 p.m. —more than an hour later — where they found him dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

Police originally said Campos interrupted the shooting, bringing the deadly rampage to a stop. But now they say Paddock stopped firing on his own. Why? It’s one of the many enduring mysteries of the case — and one that Lombardo has said may never be answered.

But in recent days, there have been more mysteries. This week, Lombardo confirmed to the Las Vegas Review Journal that police are investigating how an officer “accidentally” fired his gun inside Paddock’s suite after it was breached — though he said it was not in the room where the gunman’s body was found.

At the same time, unnamed law enforcement officials told the New York Times and the Associated Press that a hard drive was missing from at least one of the laptops recovered from Paddock’s hotel room, further complicating their efforts to uncover a motive in the case. It’s unclear whether the hard drive was simply missing or was destroyed — a move that would mimic the actions of other mass killers, like Adam Lanza, who removed and smashed his computer hard drives before he massacred 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary school in Newtown, Conn., on Dec. 14, 2012.

Another mystery surrounds Marilou Danley, the gunman’s longtime girlfriend, who was visiting family in the Philippines when Paddock carried out his rampage. Officials quickly described her as a “person of interest” in the case, in part because Paddock reportedly wired her $100,000 days before the shooting. In a statement released by her attorney, Danley, who returned to the U.S. on Oct. 3, insisted she knew nothing of Paddock’s plans and said she believed the money he sent her was “a way of breaking up” with her.

Danley was questioned by the FBI on Oct. 4 in Los Angeles, where her daughter lives. But it’s unclear whether she is still cooperating with the investigation or what she has told authorities. Her attorney did not respond to a request for comment. Las Vegas police officials have referred questions about her to the FBI, which has also repeatedly declined to comment. But Lombardo has expressed skepticism that Paddock could have assembled his arsenal of guns and thousands of rounds of ammunition without drawing attention. The sheriff has also said he believes Paddock, who had explosive material and more ammunition in his car, intended to survive the massacre and escape —though he has not explained how Paddock might have pulled that off.

The Clark County coroner has completed an autopsy on Paddock; the agency and police have declined to elaborate on what, if anything, was found except to say there was no obvious abnormalities of his brain. Paddock’s brain was scheduled to be sent this week to a laboratory at Stanford University, where doctors will perform further forensic analysis, including tissue testing, to look for neurological problems — though medical experts have said it’s unlikely that will provide an explanation for the rampage.

While Las Vegas officials say they will again brief the public on the case when there is something new to report, some revelations could come through civil lawsuits against Paddock’s estate and the casino’s parent company, MGM Resorts. At least two suits have been filed so far, including one class action case representing 10 victims.

Among other things, the investigators have sought to uncover information from Mandalay Bay, which has repeatedly declined to comment, citing the ongoing investigation. The victims want access to hotel records, including video, which might offer clues about Paddock’s actions. He checked into the casino on Sept. 25 — nearly a week before the attack — and witnesses have told police they saw him playing video poker in the casino. Police have said they believe he left the casino and returned to his home in Mesquite, Nev., about 90 minutes west of Las Vegas, at least once that week, and may have visited other casinos on the Las Vegas Strip.

One question is how Paddock got his arsenal up to his room, and whether hotel staff, including housekeepers, sensed anything was amiss. In an interview with “60 Minutes,” responding officers said Paddock’s room was filled with weapons and gear. “It just looked almost like a gun store,” Dave Newton, one of the officers, told CBS. There were “all kinds of monitors and electrical equipment … a few phones … a couple of laptops. A lot of drills, drill bits — all kinds of tools.”

Lombardo has already said there were no cameras near Paddock’s room, only in near the elevator banks down the hall. But officers have said they found evidence that the gunman had been drilling holes in the wall — including one near the front door of his suite — raising questions about his intents and whether staff or other guests reported hearing power tools noise in Paddock’s room or in the hallway where he barricaded the door.

On Tuesday, attorneys and legal experts for the victims gained access to the Route 91 site for the first time, walking the grounds from which personal belongings have been removed, but the concert stage and other fixtures have been left untouched. The legal experts and attorneys are expected to gain access to Paddock’s suite at the Mandalay Bay hotel in coming days.

Among the lawyers walking the grounds was Craig Eiland, an attorney representing Rachel Shepard, a 26-year-old California women who was shot three times, including in the chest, on that Sunday night. It was a “miracle,” her attorney said, that she lived. And now she wants to know how this could have happened.

“This is about answers first,” Eiland told reporters on Tuesday at the scene. “How did it happen? And what can be done to prevent it from happening again?”
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby Burnt Hill » Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:22 pm

But we already know some people will murder other people.
So forget all the other descriptors of Paddock,
As a human being he was perfectly capable of murdering other human beings,
we do it all the time.
Ultimately that is what matters, especially since we don't have a motive.
I mean, have we considered whether he is left handed or not?
No, because it doesn't really matter.
Was he born in Las Vegas?.. Doesn't really matter.
Was he a millionaire?... Doesn't really matter.
This murderous behavior is well within the realm of human behaviors.
This is not about being insensitive to human suffering.
But why be surprised a human being murdered other human beings?
Being old and possessing of lots of money does not rule out murderous behavior - ever.

stickdog99 wrote:What I mean is that nobody in the world seems at all surprised that an old, comfortable person would make elaborate plans to murder dozens of strangers and then himself without any motive, despite not being able to name a single similar event in all the history of the world.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:58 pm

minime » 02 Nov 2017 20:22 wrote:
stickdog99 » Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:40 pm wrote:What I mean is that nobody in the world seems at all surprised that an old, comfortable person would make elaborate plans to murder dozens of strangers and then himself without any motive, despite not being able to name a single similar event in all the history of the world. So how have all of us, including me, been conditioned to look at Paddock's face and then shrug, "Sure, I could see that guy shooting hundreds and then himself for no reason. That's obviously the most likely explanation for this."

How has a single comfortable, old individual committing completely motiveless mass murder of total strangers and then suicide turned into something completely expected, despite it never having happened before?

Or to put it another way, if such behavior is so credible, so much more likely than yet another psyop, why hasn't it ever happened before?


Again, sad to say, I believe I have read the thread in toto, and in my opinion the only person who has come out and said they believe Paddock dunnit is Lucky, just recently, and he/she might even contest that such an assertion was made.

Heaven Swan? I think she's going for the 'Original Sin' angle, meaning we're all guilty (genderly speaking, of course). She might want to weigh in and clarify.

Whom exactly do you have in mind?

Most everyone here at RI is in wait-and-see mode, in my opinion. Well, maybe not Mac.

And of course, we'll never know for sure... even if there is video of the event showing multiple points of view.


Well, basically everyone I have discussed this with here and in real life has absolutely no problem accepting the idea that an old, comfortable individual would somehow decide to put senseless premeditated mass murder and suicide on his bucket list. Nobody from JackRiddler to you to my significant other to every talking head on television or conspira-tainment seems to have any questions whatsoever concerning this aspect of the event.

In fact, even among all the people questioning this event from every possible angle, I have been an exclusive army of one in my questioning the likelihood of the Paddock's profile. And in every statement I make to this effect, I seem to rub everyone I discuss this with the wrong way. Even among those who are strongly disinclined to believe the LVPD/FBI's narrative on this event, I am the lone voice who has advanced the strangely unpopular argument that the very idea of a single comfortable, old individual committing (at least seemingly completely) motiveless mass murder of total strangers and then suicide is an extraordinary claim that should require extraordinary evidence.

No one even seem willing to entertain the idea that such historically unique behavior should defy belief. It's as if we have all come to accept that many humans are either innately or culturally wired with self-destruct mechanisms that include pre-planned mass murders of dozens of random strangers. We can all easily imagine a comfortable old millionaire like Paddock amassing an arsenal over a period of many months, booking multiple hotel rooms overlooking music festivals. filling his Valium prescription, and jotting down Newtonian ballistics calculations all with the purposeless slaughter of scores of complete strangers and then himself in mind. The utter banality and unprecedented scale of such completely purposeless evil does not faze us in the least.

"I've got no problem for the moment with idea it was him."

"The only thing so far that to me seems awfully suspicious is the business of the missing hard drive."

"why not good ol ocram? man goes nuts and shoots the fuck out of anyone in his line of vision from his hotel room."

I mean, if the reason you are saying this is that you require extraordinary evidence to ever question official narratives, then I get it. But if not, what makes all of us deem something so vile, meaningless, and historically unprecedented likely? Why do we all feel more inclined to fill the motive vacuum with "daddy issues" and "Valium rage" and the like rather than demand proof that any sane and otherwise seemingly perfectly functional senior citizen would actually act in such a manner? Yes, "shit happens" and there is a first time for everything. But shouldn't a decent criminologist demand at least a whiff of a true motive (you know, the sort of motives that have driven similar behavior in the past such as male inadequacy, revenge, political extremism, or a triggering accidental or rage murder) before unquestioningly accepting such individual behavior?

I realize that not everything is a pattern. But in terms of means, motive and opportunity, wouldn't a planned operation by people hired by those MGM executives who sold millions of MGM stock and then bought twice as many shares back after the shares plummeted be a more likely explanation than the pre-planned suicidal mass murder of dozens of random strangers by a single comfortable old individual? Why do we consider the pre-planned suicidal mass murder of dozens of random strangers by a single comfortable old individual horses and a coordinated group effort to manipulate the stock market to make hundreds of millions zebras? Is large scale mass violence more typically motiveless and individual or motivated and organizational?
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby SonicG » Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:59 pm

Well, whatever happened...I am never going to visit Las Vegas ever again...

Bump stock maker restarts sales a month after Las Vegas shooting
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/ ... art-244421

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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby Burnt Hill » Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:31 pm

I don't get the impression Paddock was a "comfortable" man, and "old" is relative,
this part of your argument falls flat, more stuff that doesn't really matter.
And it is a "vile, meaningless, and historically unprecedented" act.
I hope no one is arguing against any of that.
I am just not surprised that there does in fact exist a person that would commit
such a crime.
I am definitely cynical that way.
People will do outrageously sick things.
They are doing them right now.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby minime » Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:36 pm

Well, basically everyone I have discussed this with here and in real life has absolutely no problem accepting the idea that an old, comfortable individual would somehow decide to put senseless premeditated mass murder and suicide on his bucket list. Nobody from JackRiddler to you to my significant other to every talking head on television or conspira-tainment seems to have any questions whatsoever concerning this aspect of the event.


Oh, Jack has questions. He has questions, all right... Almost everyone here is more open-minded about the possibility of archconspiracy than you are giving them credit for.

From the outset, my working hypothesis has been that this was drug/gun deal or sting operation gone bad. You could look it up--but don't bother. And I won't elaborate.

:)

Nothing has been presented or divulged to make me change my narrative such as it is--so far anyway.

Your characterization of Stephen Paddock as an old, rich millionaire, and comfortable as a pair of slippers, is heartwarming. That he was putting up an arsenal of automatic weapons for sale or his own personal use doesn't necessarily conflict with that characterization. I can see it.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:13 am

Burnt Hill » 03 Nov 2017 01:31 wrote:I don't get the impression Paddock was a "comfortable" man, and "old" is relative,
this part of your argument falls flat, more stuff that doesn't really matter.
And it is a "vile, meaningless, and historically unprecedented" act.
I hope no one is arguing against any of that.
I am just not surprised that there does in fact exist a person that would commit
such a crime.
I am definitely cynical that way.
People will do outrageously sick things.
They are doing them right now.


Again, why does this roll off your tongue so easily even though you fully admit that you cannot cite any historical precedent for this?

Sure, humans murder humans continually. That is not remotely an explanation for a single human executing a complex premeditated plan in order to shoot down dozens of total strangers and only total strangers for no reason and then shoot himself as well an hour before the police so much as even try to do anything whatsoever to stop him. Give us a single historical precedent for this behavior by anyone who even remotely fits Paddock's profile.

It doesn't fit. The plot is simply not believable. What is the character's motivation? If he really and truly wanted to kill random strangers and only random strangers so damn much for some completely unknown reason that he went to all that trouble just to do so, why did he stop shooting for no reason and then kill himself for no reason? If he wanted to outdo his father or strike a blow for Muslims or whatever, why did he leave nary a clue about his motive?

This is what I am trying to understand that I cannot understand. Nobody can think of any remotely similar crime ever having happened before, but not a soul is willing admit that this fact makes such behavior even so much as a tad unlikely.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby 8bitagent » Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:02 am

Im still inclined to believe "the worst mass shooting in American history" was the sick bucket list final wish of a newly retiree who had a lot of money saved up. Even when I was awoken by news of this horror show a month ago, I never felt it was going to be pointing toward "Muslims" or "Antifa/Communists" or "Nazis/Militia" far right types.

However, boy there sure does seem to be a lot of...odd things with this case that I dont recall in other mass high profile lone nut cases. Missing hard drives, continually changing timeline, mysterious bullet holes not fired by Paddock, the odd mystery of Jesus Campos, several of the survivors randomly dying(including two who were emphatic there were multiple shooters), and now from what Im hearing reports of false FAA masked tail number blips ala 9/11 in the area.

If it was a 'deep state' event or anything related, perhaps it was to prep the public for a new horror show. As I mentioned a month ago on here, I see not just an increase in "jihadi" terror events in America and from alt right/neo nazi/far right militia nuts, but also "left wing commies" and other militants to ratchet up the boiling point...but something like Vegas may have been used to groom and prep America to accept all sorts of random and increasingly horrifying shit from all angles. To really cross the rubicon.

The terror attack near ground zero in New York yesterday was in a way almost laughably crude, yet effective. But coordinated Bataclan, Breivik or Beslan events could be coming, in rapid succession to create trauma on all fronts.
The left wing, centrists and far right/conspiracy gun right would be primed and ready to lose their minds depending on whom the culprit is deemed to be. (Anyone remember the Vegas mass shooting by far right wingers a couple years ago?) I cant explain the Paddock thing....bucket list sick jollies? a secret oceans 11 heist by people unknown? regardless, its further pushed the overton window over the cliff as we prepare for next weeks mass horror tragedy(and then soon, daily)
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:06 am

minime » 03 Nov 2017 01:36 wrote:
Well, basically everyone I have discussed this with here and in real life has absolutely no problem accepting the idea that an old, comfortable individual would somehow decide to put senseless premeditated mass murder and suicide on his bucket list. Nobody from JackRiddler to you to my significant other to every talking head on television or conspira-tainment seems to have any questions whatsoever concerning this aspect of the event.


Oh, Jack has questions. He has questions, all right... Almost everyone here is more open-minded about the possibility of archconspiracy than you are giving them credit for.

From the outset, my working hypothesis has been that this was drug/gun deal or sting operation gone bad. You could look it up--but don't bother. And I won't elaborate.

:)

Nothing has been presented or divulged to make me change my narrative such as it is--so far anyway.

Your characterization of Stephen Paddock as an old, rich millionaire, and comfortable as a pair of slippers, is heartwarming. That he was putting up an arsenal of automatic weapons for sale or his own personal use doesn't necessarily conflict with that characterization. I can see it.


If he actually bought up a huge arsenal of guns over the past year, why did he do that? According to the ATF, "Stephen Paddock augmented 12 firearms with bump-fire stocks to allow for semi-automatic weapons to mimic automatic gunfire."

Why would one guy need more than "12 firearms with bump-fire stocks to allow for semi-automatic weapons to mimic automatic gunfire." Why would one guy who nobody ever once noticed practicing his shooting go to the trouble of smuggling up another 11 firearms beyond these "12 firearms with bump-fire stocks to allow for semi-automatic weapons to mimic automatic gunfire." If your big purpose in life were to kill as many total strangers as you could in a crowd from your luxury suite, why would you buy up and bring up so many extraneous unnecessary weapons (and tanneriite)? I mean, the guy supposedly had another 24 weapons beyond the 23 the authorities found in his suite. He supposedly bought 33 guns of some sort just in the past year. What was the purpose of all this overkill? Why risk discovery of his dastardly plan, if even only by his loved ones, by purchasing so many unnecessary weapons? I mean, how many of the 23 weapon he smuggled into his hotel room did he even fire before killing himself? Which weapons? How many times did he reload? Why not release some basic information abut this? Why hasn't anyone so much as asked any of these basic questions?

The guy supposedly had "12 firearms with bump-fire stocks to allow for semi-automatic weapons to mimic automatic gunfire." At least some of these guns could fire at a rate of 10 rounds per second. So if he was intent on killing the most random people possible for some unknown reason, he had the firepower to unload roughly 1200 shots from his 12 modified rifles in roughly 2 minutes of consecutive firing without ever once reloading a single clip. So why all the long gaps in firing? Why was he not able to shoot even 1000 audible rounds over a full 10 minute period? Why, with the police never threatening him one iota, did he then kill himself rather than keep shooting the random total strangers he for some unknown reason so desperately wished to mow down?
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