Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

[chump]

I haven't gone back over the thread to see if this has already been posted. I was very curious to know if a drill was scheduled during the same time frame, but I don't know the date of this article or the drill.

http://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/nevada- ... l/80837552
Homeland security officials were already scheduled to meet in Las Vegas to go over safety concerns in the Las Vegas Valley. The Nevada Homeland Security Commission is very concerned about the attacks in London.

For the members, it serves as a reminder that we cannot let down our guard. For that very reason on Monday the Las Vegas Convention Center will become one mass causality triage center for a mock terrorist drill. Clark County Emergency Management Manager Jim O'Brien says about the drill, "We are testing our local emergency operations plan. The state's emergency operations plan and the national response plan."

O'Brien adds the three-day test starting Monday takes on new meaning because of the London attacks. The exercise planning began last November after a Channel 8 Eyewitness News investigation revealing a break down in the trauma system...

Briefly exploring the possibilities of official exercises preceding the massacre.

Screenshot, via VT:

Seeing as how there is no time and date on this story, this video supposedly explains how to determine when a story was originally presented:

https://youtu.be/WyFqz_aEHtE
Nevada Homeland Security Planned a KLAS 8 Mock Terrorist Drill before stephen paddock vegas shooting
Go to google.com and copy-paste the full URL of any web page in the search box BUT with the inurl: operator in front & Hit enter. go to that browsers address bar and copy-paste this at the end of the Google search URL. &as_qdr=y15 Press enter again. Google will load the search results again but this time, you’ll see the actual MISSING publication date of the web page next to the title in Google search results to archive this select all info in address bar & feed it to archive.is...

The video concludes that the story above was published June 8th, 2016! But, I don't know... Were the London attacks before November 2015?

Also this:

http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.c ... -mass.html
Las Vegas Shooting: "Coincidentally" Mass Casualty Exercise 2 Days Prior

I hadn't covered the recent Las Vegas Shooting, until now!
When you read the information linked and quoted you'll understand what compelled me to finally address the incident in Las Vegas.

Task and Purpose - Airforce Surgeon Describes Aftermath of Las Vegas Shooting

"Just after 11:30 pm on Oct. 1, Air Force Maj. Charles Chesnut awoke to an alarming cryptic alert from Air Combat Command’s AtHoc Emergency Mass Notification System: Avoid downtown Las Vegas. An hour and a half earlier, at 10:08 pm 64-year-old Stephen Paddock had opened fire from his room on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay casino and resort on a crowd of 22,000 revelers gathered below for a music festival.

“I was asleep in my bed, just like every Sunday before that,” Chesnut, a general surgeon with the 99th Medical Group out of Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada, said in an Oct. 3 interview. But that didn’t stop him from springing into action. “I saw the catastrophic events that were unfolding, and I said, ‘This is what we train for … they’re going to need some help.’”

Task and Purpose is presenting this as if Chesnut and others volunteered to go to University Medical Center- I have very real doubts about this being voluntary.

Chesnut was one of several Air Force surgeons who rushed to the level-one trauma center University Medical Center of Southern Nevada in the aftermath of the Las Vegas shooting, where civilian doctors and medical personnel were struggling with the sudden deluge of gunshot victims — many of whom suffered wounds rarely seen outside of far-flung war zones.

“This was not a normal pattern of injuries,” UMC trauma surgery chief Dr. Douglas Fraser told the Washington Post on Oct. 3. The decision to call in military personnel was only logical, he added: “They are used to seeing those things.”

The shooter killed 58 people and injured 489 before ending his own life with a self-inflicted gunshot wound, making the Las Vegas massacre the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history. Law enforcement officials say he used bump stock devices to simulate full-auto fire from his arsenal of AR-15-style, semi-automatic rifles for the attack, an event he reportedly planned for years. His motive is still known.

Chesnut arrived at the hospital’s overflowing trauma resuscitation unit, working feverishly to help save lives. Ironically, Nellis AFB had conducted a mass-casualty response training exercise just two days prior to the Vegas shooting in preparation for the upcoming Aviation Nation Air Show.

"Ironically"? A mass casualty response training exercise took place just two days prior to the Vegas Shooting, ostensibly, in preparation for an upcoming Aviation Nation Air Show.

No date mentioned for when that show was set to occur? Additionally it is a claim that cannot be verified.

What we do know is TWO days before the shooting in Las Vegas, a mass casualty military exercise involving nearly identical numbers of patients took place.

“That event was simulated: 100 patients, mass casualty, coming in to the 99th Medical Group, which eerily was almost the exact same number of patients we saw downtown at the only free-standing level-one trauma center in Nevada,” he said. “That training we had … helped us immensely that Sunday night.”

The event that had been simulated was "eerily" almost the exact same number of patients we saw downtown at THE ONLY free-standing level- one trauma center in Nevada.

What are the odds?

[Grizzly]

Fuck, this is hard to watch...

Women Hit: 0:07 Listen Audio Bullet impact: 1:50

From comments:

0:25 0:26 Mandalay Bay no open window or Flash ?

[Burnt Hill]

The airshow is scheduled for Nov. 10th and 11th.

No date mentioned for when that show was set to occur? Additionally it is a claim that cannot be verified.

Remember all Hospitals, Law enforcement and Military Branches do frequent disaster drills as routine,
and as needed for known mass attendance events.

That this preparation was done close to the time of the shooting could be considered reassuring.
Many facilities get homeland security funding to do just that type of prep - it is mandatory.

[MacCruiskeen]

MacC wrote:

By the way, stickdog99 is by no means an army of one. I share his concerns 100%, as do many other honest and rational people, both on this board and elsewhere.

Exactly! Being a long time lurker and rare poster, having read all 80 pages of this thread, I very much appreciate stickdog's prolific contribution to this board. Here is my personal opinion on this case. Knowing everything we have learned so far I feel that the probability that SP acted alone like we are told is about 1%. Most likely it was a false flag / strategy of tension type event.

Cui bono? Remains to be seen. In the meantime, keep up the good work everyone and party on.

much appreciation

Thanks, Lola. Same back. Much appreciated, not least (but certainly not only) because you're a woman.

[barracuda]

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[MacCruiskeen]

Vegas Shooting Updates: Lombardo - The Casino Industry's Sheriff from Day One

AmericanEveryman
05.11.2017

As I watched Sheriff Lombardo transform the official story of the Las Vegas shooting over and over again, I wondered why it was he seemed so eager to appease MGM Resorts International. Now I know. The casino industry made him sheriff. Now he owes them.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... 8yntb-y_mM

Lombardo wins Clark County sheriff’s race

By MIKE BLASKY and FRANCIS McCABE LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL
November 5, 2014
... With Gillespie and former Sheriff Bill Young supporting him, Lombardo benefited from an almost 2-to-1 fundraising advantage. A large portion of his financial support came from the casino industry, which has historically given money to the outgoing sheriff’s hand-picked candidate. And that candidate almost always wins. ...

https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/lomb ... iffs-race/

[Burnt Hill]

That's what Ray Davies said.

Thanks, Lola. Same back. Much appreciated, not least (but certainly not only) because you're a woman.

[Project Willow]

2) Befriend or interview some cult or MK Ultra survivors. They don’t often talk about the gory details of the horrifically violent and mindbogglingly sadistic abuses they suffered, but if you come from a place of compassion and speak one on one they may open up. Be sure and ask them about the socioeconomics of the perpetrators of the torturous °programming° they were subjected to. How could comfortable, highly successful doctors, professors, business and military men commit such atrocities on a regular basis? Try asking what they’ve observed about these pillars of society.

Well, although you have not interviewed me, I am one of those people, and here's what I have to say about Paddock with the information available to me at this point. He appears to be a patsy, and I fully support Stickdog's questioning and contributions to this thread.

I've already posted upthread about the yawning chasm in the motive. "It's possible", or even "it's likely" generalized from assumptions about powerful men, or even just men, is a mighty long distance from "that's why he did it".

Here's what I know about powerful, sociopathic men who can pretty much get anything they want already. They wouldn't lower themselves to go postal like some desperate, working class useless eater, it's too boring and simple. If it's mass death they want, they use proxies, that way they get to kill souls on both sides of the weapons, plus use both the terror of the experience and a constructed narrative to serve multiple agendas. If these men feel the urge to act out their ultimate need to control and destroy in some physical manner, they do that hands on, one on one. They take life by immediate flesh touching flesh, so they can revel in it, indulge in deep, quenching looks into horrified, fading eyes. This is not done at a distance with strangers or on a whim, that's not personal enough. If one of them did lower himself to go postal, his arrogance would lead him to walk out of that hotel room claiming innocence and then he'd buy the best lawyers on the planet to get him off. I never encountered a sociopath on that level who was empathic enough to be suicidal.

Motive in this case remains a big yawning chasm, and presumptions and observations from any one life experience, including mine, signify nothing except we still don't know what the hell happened or who the hell this person Paddock really was. I don't think anyone has any business arguing for motive in the midst of this vacuum of information, and certainly there is no reason whatsoever to render viewpoints into character assessments. Please be kind to each other, and by all means, stop worrying what the neighbors may think. There is nothing shameful about trying to make sense out of something that has delivered very little sense so far.

[stickdog99]

Thanks, folks.

We can all get through this somehow, or at least I hope so.

One thing I do know for sure, and that is that there are more of us than there are of them.

[SonicG]

Thanks, folks.

We can all get through this somehow, or at least I hope so.

One thing I do know for sure, and that is that there are more of us than there are of them.

Namaste...although it isn't so much the numbers as the great desire to shine a light on whatever is really going on...that we, and you of course, certainly posess...Godspeed.

[Belligerent Savant]

2) Befriend or interview some cult or MK Ultra survivors. They don’t often talk about the gory details of the horrifically violent and mindbogglingly sadistic abuses they suffered, but if you come from a place of compassion and speak one on one they may open up. Be sure and ask them about the socioeconomics of the perpetrators of the torturous °programming° they were subjected to. How could comfortable, highly successful doctors, professors, business and military men commit such atrocities on a regular basis? Try asking what they’ve observed about these pillars of society.

Well, although you have not interviewed me, I am one of those people, and here's what I have to say about Paddock with the information available to me at this point. He appears to be a patsy, and I fully support Stickdog's questioning and contributions to this thread.

I've already posted upthread about the yawning chasm in the motive. "It's possible", or even "it's likely" generalized from assumptions about powerful men, or even just men, is a mighty long distance from "that's why he did it".

Here's what I know about powerful, sociopathic men who can pretty much get anything they want already. They wouldn't lower themselves to go postal like some desperate, working class useless eater, it's too boring and simple. If it's mass death they want, they use proxies, that way they get to kill souls on both sides of the weapons, plus use both the terror of the experience and a constructed narrative to serve multiple agendas. If these men feel the urge to act out their ultimate need to control and destroy in some physical manner, they do that hands on, one on one. They take life by immediate flesh touching flesh, so they can revel in it, indulge in deep, quenching looks into horrified, fading eyes. This is not done at a distance with strangers or on a whim, that's not personal enough. If one of them did lower himself to go postal, his arrogance would lead him to walk out of that hotel room claiming innocence and then he'd buy the best lawyers on the planet to get him off. I never encountered a sociopath on that level who was empathic enough to be suicidal.

Motive in this case remains a big yawning chasm, and presumptions and observations from any one life experience, including mine, signify nothing except we still don't know what the hell happened or who the hell this person Paddock really was. I don't think anyone has any business arguing for motive in the midst of this vacuum of information, and certainly there is no reason whatsoever to render viewpoints into character assessments. Please be kind to each other, and by all means, stop worrying what the neighbors may think. There is nothing shameful about trying to make sense out of something that has delivered very little sense so far.

Excellent reading of the psychosis/pathology - thank you for sharing this perspective.

[Heaven Swan]

2) Befriend or interview some cult or MK Ultra survivors. They don’t often talk about the gory details of the horrifically violent and mindbogglingly sadistic abuses they suffered, but if you come from a place of compassion and speak one on one they may open up. Be sure and ask them about the socioeconomics of the perpetrators of the torturous °programming° they were subjected to. How could comfortable, highly successful doctors, professors, business and military men commit such atrocities on a regular basis? Try asking what they’ve observed about these pillars of society.

Well, although you have not interviewed me, I am one of those people, and here's what I have to say about Paddock with the information available to me at this point. He appears to be a patsy, and I fully support Stickdog's questioning and contributions to this thread.

I've already posted upthread about the yawning chasm in the motive. "It's possible", or even "it's likely" generalized from assumptions about powerful men, or even just men, is a mighty long distance from "that's why he did it".

Here's what I know about powerful, sociopathic men who can pretty much get anything they want already. They wouldn't lower themselves to go postal like some desperate, working class useless eater, it's too boring and simple. If it's mass death they want, they use proxies, that way they get to kill souls on both sides of the weapons, plus use both the terror of the experience and a constructed narrative to serve multiple agendas. If these men feel the urge to act out their ultimate need to control and destroy in some physical manner, they do that hands on, one on one. They take life by immediate flesh touching flesh, so they can revel in it, indulge in deep, quenching looks into horrified, fading eyes. This is not done at a distance with strangers or on a whim, that's not personal enough. If one of them did lower himself to go postal, his arrogance would lead him to walk out of that hotel room claiming innocence and then he'd buy the best lawyers on the planet to get him off. I never encountered a sociopath on that level who was empathic enough to be suicidal.

Motive in this case remains a big yawning chasm, and presumptions and observations from any one life experience, including mine, signify nothing except we still don't know what the hell happened or who the hell this person Paddock really was. I don't think anyone has any business arguing for motive in the midst of this vacuum of information, and certainly there is no reason whatsoever to render viewpoints into character assessments. Please be kind to each other, and by all means, stop worrying what the neighbors may think. There is nothing shameful about trying to make sense out of something that has delivered very little sense so far.

You misunderstood me. The bolded part of your post is what I was talking about. The horrific ‘programming’ these ‘cult’ perps regularly perform behind closed doors, torture done generally by upstanding citizens not lacking in monetary resources.

The reason I brought this up is because of Stickdog99’s defense of Paddock and his bewilderment at the idea that any man with significant money in the bank could engage in sick, violent behavior.

[82_28]

fwiw, I just happened upon this reading slashdot, RE missing hard drive:

MINIX: ​Intel's hidden in-chip operating system

Buried deep inside your computer's Intel chip is the MINIX operating system and a software stack, which includes networking and a web server. It's slow, hard to get at, and insecure as insecure can be.

. . .So, what's it doing in Intel chips? A lot. These processors are running a closed-source variation of the open-source MINIX 3. We don't know exactly what version or how it's been modified since we don't have the source code. We do know that with it there:

Neither Linux nor any other operating system have final control of the x86 platform
Between the operating system and the hardware are at least 2 ½ OS kernels (MINIX and UEFI)
These are proprietary and (perhaps not surprisingly) exploit-friendly
And the exploits can persist, i.e. be written to FLASH, and you can't fix that

In addition, thanks to Minnich and his fellow researchers' work, MINIX is running on three separate x86 cores on modern chips. There, it's running:

TCP/IP networking stacks (4 and 6)
File systems
Drivers (disk, net, USB, mouse)
Web servers

MINIX also has access to your passwords. It can also reimage your computer's firmware even if it's powered off. Let me repeat that. If your computer is "off" but still plugged in, MINIX can still potentially change your computer's fundamental settings.

And, for even more fun, it "can implement self-modifying code that can persist across power cycles". So, if an exploit happens here, even if you unplug your server in one last desperate attempt to save it, the attack will still be there waiting for you when you plug it back in.

How? MINIX can do all this because it runs at a fundamentally lower level.

. . .

http://www.zdnet.com/article/minix-inte ... ng-system/

Here is a comment on this thread at slashdot:

Let's call this what it is: A variation of the "clipper chip" like the government tried to do years ago, except this is more powerful and way worse. It's a backdoor that can potentially operate at a level few not in certain government departments or Intel top level developers can access. Perhaps it's time to give Intel the cold shoulder. Need to confirm if AMD has this backdoor OS in it's processors or not. Wonder how China and Russia respond to this sort of thing? Will we ever see an end of this screwing the end user for corporate and/or government interests?

https://tech.slashdot.org/story/17/11/0 ... m#comments

Sooooo. There's that I suppose, to take into consideration.

[Belligerent Savant]

^^^^^
What's the relevance to a missing hard drive?
The above is a reference to a memory/flash vulnerability, which is separate and apart from a hard drive and the contents/artifacts that can be recovered from a hard drive.

In any event, as already referenced from an earlier article, reportedly there were numerous electronic storage devices associated with Paddock that were captured and have been analyzed by the Feds.
There's no way to know how relevant this "missing" hard drive (if still missing) would be, assuming the 'missing hard drive' story is genuine in the first place.

[82_28]

Dude. It was "relevant" several pages ago and was being discussed for a time. I was browsing through slashdot this morning and I thought it may be of some interest (or might have been) due to speculation.

The above is a reference to a memory/flash vulnerability, which is separate and apart from a hard drive and the contents/artifacts that can be recovered from a hard drive.

Actually no, no it's not a vulnerability. Read the article buddy, not just what I lifted. It's a feature that can be vulnerable but is built in.