seemslikeadream » Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:47 pm wrote:I don't want Clinton or Bernie to run for president again ...Clinton is not president and never will be president but god almighty we have to keep talking about her as if she was president!! Cause if we do then we are not talking about the traitor in chief
I guess there are some people who think she is really the president
She will NOT be the nominee in 2020
We do generally agree.
I also hope that neither Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton run for POTUS in 2020.
I do think that Sanders has more political life and is a positive influence.
We would be better off if Hillary Clinton faded away quietly and her supporters move on to something more positive. Seeing a Russian behind every move is not productive. Thinking Trump will be jailed or impeached (or HRC for that matter) is not that productive. The best we can hope for is probably a Trump resignation but then there is Pence. Time is shortening to get an act together to oust Trump and diminish the GOP in 2020. Look at DU. It is whacked. There is not much sanity out there, folks are so polarized on useless drivel.
So a Clinton is better than GWB or Trump but had the Clintons and their cadre not been directly or indirectly involved in the Democratic leadership and the losing elections between 2000 and present, it is highly likely that neither Trump nor GWB would have occupied the office of POTUS and there would likely be less and terrorism war in the world and the USA would be better off economically, socially, and of international repute.
People like me (and Sanders and Sarandon and probably SLAD) aren't going to influence the GOP and the right wing but can influence and support the Democratic party, but to do that requires support by the Democratic party of the voters.