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Re: Assange Amazing Adventures of Captain Neo in Blonde Land

Postby Harvey » Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:14 pm

JackRiddler » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:57 am wrote:
Jerky » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:37 pm wrote:I know quite a few people who've done significant time in prison. None of them turned into twisted, nihilistic traitors with delusions of grandeur.

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Call him a villain if you like (I don't) but it takes a special U.S.-American delusion of grandeur to see a "traitor" in this Australian guy. Traitor to what? America? "The West?"


Yes. He is and remains an exemplary journalist by any reasonable standard. And if one can't deny the accuracy and authenticity of the work, one should at least make it impossible for consumers to reconcile their imprinting or their aversion therapy with a respect for first hand evidence. At least, not without blowing a fuse.
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Re: Assange Amazing Adventures of Captain Neo in Blonde Land

Postby JackRiddler » Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:27 pm

So many members of U.S. "intelligence community" and intelligentsia were calling for his death from 2010 forward, sometimes also calling out "treason." (Sarah Palin) After nine yers of this stuff it has begun to stick.
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Re: Assange Amazing Adventures of Captain Neo in Blonde Land

Postby Jerky » Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:15 pm

I suppose you're correct, technically speaking.

However, the milieu in which he has chosen to operate is pretty clearly "the West", and specifically the USA.

If Assange were "disrupting" Australian politics (which could use it, to be honest), I, as a one time US citizen and current Canadian observer to the ongoing circus south of the border, would have nothing to say. But as it stands, he's currently all about this crazed, bull in the China shop crusade against... what, exactly? The government daring to use technologies that have been in the hands of private businesses for years already?

If y'all want to turn back the clocks and calendars a couple decades so we can stop and think through the pros and cons of this whole "mass connectivity / mass surveillance" thing before jumping in, I'm with you! But like it or not, this is the world we're in now, folks. Pretending like there's any way to prevent the Powers That Be from using the most advanced technologies available in their law enforcement efforts is pure intellectual masturbation at this point. Hell, I'm not even prepared to accept, as many here seem to, that them doing so is always and necessarily "a bad thing" quote/unquote.

But hey, that's me.

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Re: Assange Amazing Adventures of Captain Neo in Blonde Land

Postby Jerky » Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:16 pm

An exemplary journalist? How do you figure that, Harvey?

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Harvey » 31 Jan 2018 01:14 wrote:
JackRiddler » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:57 am wrote:
Jerky » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:37 pm wrote:I know quite a few people who've done significant time in prison. None of them turned into twisted, nihilistic traitors with delusions of grandeur.

J.


Call him a villain if you like (I don't) but it takes a special U.S.-American delusion of grandeur to see a "traitor" in this Australian guy. Traitor to what? America? "The West?"


Yes. He is and remains an exemplary journalist by any reasonable standard. And if one can't deny the accuracy and authenticity of the work, one should at least make it impossible for consumers to reconcile their imprinting or their aversion therapy with a respect for first hand evidence. At least, not without blowing a fuse.
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Re: Assange Amazing Adventures of Captain Neo in Blonde Land

Postby Elvis » Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:18 pm

mentalgongfu2 wrote: Not a fan of Twitter fraudsters, but Hannity doesn't have the ability to elicit any form of sympathy from me.


Let me state, I have no sympathy for Sean Hannity.



Jerky wrote:screaming into a black hole


Knock yourself out, if screaming is your way. I'm not here to fight or scream. I'm here to learn, discuss, and share my opinions and interpretations of events. I will call out disingenuousness, dishonesty and disinformation as I see it.


Harvey wrote: He is and remains an exemplary journalist by any reasonable standard. And if one can't deny the accuracy and authenticity of the work, one should at least make it impossible for consumers to reconcile their imprinting or their aversion therapy with a respect for first hand evidence. At least, not without blowing a fuse.


Thanks, Harvey. I agree.


JackRiddler wrote:After nine yers of this stuff it has begun to stick.


Thank you, Jack, quite right.


I can't wait to see the reaction when Assange dumps a lode of Trump docs.
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Re: Assange Amazing Adventures of Captain Neo in Blonde Land

Postby Sounder » Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:25 pm

Jerky wrote...
How about you, Sounder?

Aw Jerky, you are just sore about being outed as a supporter of takfiri headchoppers.
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Re: Assange Amazing Adventures of Captain Neo in Blonde Land

Postby Jerky » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:23 pm

Wait, what now?

When is THAT alleged to have happened, Sounder?

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Re: Assange Amazing Adventures of Captain Neo in Blonde Land

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:55 pm

it's a go to phrase ....don't worry I think he just likes the way it sounds :D

I've only heard one person ever use it so I remembered it

AD appears to be a spree-killing supporter.


see he likes calling people spree-killing supporters..that's just the way he rolls

I don't think AD likes spree-killing and I don't think you do either

I let the accusation that I promoted the torturing of cats (not by Sounder) go.....top that :evilgrin

Sounder » Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:02 am wrote:From your endless supply of overwrought emotional trigger material, yet you have no ability to address the question at hand, which is: How do people find such easy justification for the mass killing of fellow human beings? Puritans come in several flavors. Takfiri head choppers are one flavor, but really, anybody that lives their lives under the influence of an absolute imperative becomes a potential head-chopper.

Interesting, that you do that de rigor I hate America bit yet are quite happy to support American aims in taking out 'bad' men like Qaddafi, Hussein and Assad. Truth is, you do not like any country and are quite happy to see untold levels of suffering if it will satisfy your no-borders imperative.

Syria times one thousand if you get your way.

AD appears to be a spree-killing supporter.

People that cannot answer to criticism have no credibility.



sponsored by the west


I live in the west so I guess I am a sponsor also..........NOT

Sounder » Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:19 am wrote:Apologize?, more like congratulate for efficiently killing takfiri head choppers sponsored by the west.

50,000 thousand dollars of ad buys that may have come from Russia? The blame shifting has gotten embarrassing and pathetic, reinforcing the opinion that the drunk still has further to go before he hits rock bottom.



Julian Assange mistakenly offers dirt on Dem senator to Sean Hannity parody account....now that sounds a bit familiar ...

offers dirt on Dem :roll:

is it really unusual that someone is not who they appear to be on Twitter? :P
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Re: Assange Amazing Adventures of Captain Neo in Blonde Land

Postby Sounder » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:15 am

SLAD, thanks for the quotes, if you could provide the link that would be great.

Sounder » Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:02 am wrote:
From your endless supply of overwrought emotional trigger material, yet you have no ability to address the question at hand, which is: How do people find such easy justification for the mass killing of fellow human beings? Puritans come in several flavors. Takfiri head choppers are one flavor, but really, anybody that lives their lives under the influence of an absolute imperative becomes a potential head-chopper.

Interesting, that you do that de rigor I hate America bit yet are quite happy to support American aims in taking out 'bad' men like Qaddafi, Hussein and Assad. Truth is, you do not like any country and are quite happy to see untold levels of suffering if it will satisfy your no-borders imperative.

Syria times one thousand if you get your way.

AD appears to be a spree-killing supporter.

People that cannot answer to criticism have no credibility



Both AD and Jerky are promoting the establishment idea that the White Helmets are a humanitarian organization over on the Global Research thread. Even though its members post on facebook about their takfiri loyalties and with their main guy as an Acadimi employee.

And again AD responds with a non relevant cut and paste rather than to answer the criticism of his apparent position in support of foreign mercenaries being used to destroy a country.

Oh, small quibble but being 'from' the west is not what makes you a supporter, it's being a consumer of western mainstream newsfeed that makes one a supporter.

If you believe the White Helmets are a force for 'good' you are probably letting establishment produced cognitive dissonance mess you up.
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Re: Assange Amazing Adventures of Captain Neo in Blonde Land

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:38 am

of course......I should have included them

we all have different opinions...... no one here loves spree killings and that's all I have to say about that

I am glad you are posting here and I have said so just the other day...now that the children have left the building let's leave the baby blather behind ...shall we?

the only reason I engaged in this discussion in the first place was to express my opinion that Sounder should and would stay and nothing more..I'll take the time for a long time friend here
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=33480&p=649317&hilit=sounder#p649317


btw I am not now or have I ever been or will I ever be a spree-killing lover.....please stop the over the top silliness

Takfiri head choppers....quite a unforgettable phrase I must say


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Re: Assange Amazing Adventures of Captain Neo in Blonde Land

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:40 pm

speaking of fake twitter accounts and someone fooling Assange...you are not alone Julian...such a shame that you admitted to be best buds with Hannity ...really tells a whole lot about you ...feeding the trump propaganda network

Twitter Followers Vanish Amid
Inquiries Into Fake Accounts


Federal and state authorities are investigating the sellers of
artificial followers and other fraudulent social media engagement.


By NICHOLAS CONFESSORE, GABRIEL J.X. DANCE and RICH HARRIS JAN.

31, 2018

More than a million followers have disappeared from the accounts of dozens of prominent Twitter users in recent days as the company faces growing criticism over the proliferation of fake accounts and scrutiny from federal and state inquiries into the shadowy firms that sell fake followers.

The people losing followers include an array of entertainers, entrepreneurs, athletes and media figures, many of whom bought Twitter followers or artificial engagement from a company called Devumi. Its business practices were detailed in a New York Times article on Saturday describing a vast trade in fake followers and fraudulent engagement on Twitter and other social media sites, often using personal information taken from real users. Twitter said on Saturday that it would take action against Devumi’s practices. A Twitter spokeswoman on Tuesday declined to comment about whether the company was purging fake accounts.

The singer Clay Aiken, the actor John Leguizamo and the reality TV star Lisa Rinna have each lost a substantial number of followers, according to a review of their accounts. So has Martha Lane Fox, a British businesswoman and Twitter board member. Other well-known users have taken to Twitter in recent days to complain of lost followers, suggesting that a broad swath of people may be affected, not just Devumi customers.

A Close Look at Martha Lane Fox’s Followers

The company’s heightened campaign against bots comes as federal lawmakers and law enforcement officials in two states are scrutinizing Devumi and its competitors online, where numerous websites sell fake followers or engagement on Twitter, LinkedIn, YouTube, Instagram and other social media platforms.

On Tuesday, Senators Jerry Moran of Kansas and Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut — the chairman and the ranking member, respectively, of the Senate subcommittee on consumer protection and data security — asked the Federal Trade Commission to begin an investigation into the “deceptive and unfair marketing practices” of Devumi and similar companies. While Devumi promises customers “100 Percent Active, English Followers,” virtually all of the followers and retweets the company provides are fake, The Times found. Twitter prohibits buying followers of any kind.

The Florida attorney general, Pam Bondi, a Republican, has also begun an investigation into Devumi, joining Eric T. Schneiderman, the New York attorney general and a Democrat, who announced on Saturday that he would begin reviewing whether the company had violated state laws against impersonation and commercial deception.

The Times found evidence that the information of Twitter users in every state — including thousands of people in Florida and New York — had been copied onto bots sold by Devumi or rival companies.

The Distribution of Deception

At least 55,000 fake accounts use the names, profile pictures, hometowns and other personal details of real Twitter users, including minors, according to a Times data analysis. The original accounts list locations in all 50 U.S. states.

Wyo.
S.D.
N.D.
N.M.
Vt.
Alaska
N.H.
Mont.
Del.
Hawaii
Idaho
W.Va.
Nev.
Me.
Utah
Neb.
Miss.
Iowa
Conn.
Ark.
S.C.
Okla.
Ore.
Mo.
Md.
Wis.
Ky.
Minn.
Ala.
Mass.
Ariz.
La.
Kan.
Colo.
N.J.
Tenn.
Va.
Ill.
Wash.
Pa.
Mich.
N.C.
Ohio
Ga.
Ind.
Fla.
N.Y.
Tex.
Calif.
500
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By The New York Times
Devumi was based in Florida until recently but lists a New York City address on its website. The company’s owner, German Calas, also lives in Florida.


“Based on the New York Times article, we have opened an investigation into these very serious allegations,” Ms. Bondi said in an interview Tuesday. “We would encourage any citizens who believe they have been a victim of this scam to please contact the Florida attorney general’s office immediately.”

Mr. Calas did not respond to an email seeking comment. But on Monday, Devumi’s parent company, Bytion, filed paperwork in Florida indicating that it had moved its principal place of business to Colorado. Jared Stark, a lawyer for Mr. Calas’s business, said in an email that both companies had relocated to Denver earlier in January, a move he described as “in the works for some time.” He declined to comment on the investigations into Devumi.

A reporter visiting Bytion’s Denver office on Tuesday found it largely empty, save for a few boxes against one wall and patio furniture on a balcony. Gerald Sexton, Bytion’s director of people and culture, declined to comment and said that Mr. Calas was not available.

A few minutes later, a process server arrived at the office to deliver a subpoena from Mr. Schneiderman’s office. A spokeswoman for Mr. Schneiderman declined to comment.


The Denver building that now houses offices for Devumi and its parent company, Bytion. Nick Cote for The New York Times
The disclosure of dozens of Devumi’s customers in entertainment, politics and business has sparked a renewed debate — often carried out on Twitter itself — about the prevalence of fraud and fakery on social media, where tens of millions of fake users still roam.

The Chicago Sun-Times announced on Monday that it would suspend publishing reviews by the newspaper’s film critic, Richard Roeper, while conducting a review of his social media following. Mr. Roeper bought at least 25,000 followers from Devumi, according to records reviewed by The Times, and an analysis of his account indicates that many of his nearly quarter-million Twitter followers are fake accounts.

Both Twitter and Facebook verify the identity of some celebrities, politicians and other high-profile users and include blue check marks on their account pages, in part to prevent scam artists from impersonating them. But a vast majority of accounts are not vetted in the same way.

Moreover, Twitter does not require that accounts be associated with a real person. Mark Cuban, a prominent technology investor, tweeted on Monday that it was time for Twitter to change that policy, and for Facebook to tighten its requirements. Mr. Cuban elaborated over email, saying that automated accounts, or bots, and impersonation on Twitter had made him less enthusiastic about using the platform.


“I don’t think your user handle or profile has to reflect your actual name or picture,” Mr. Cuban said. “I do think Twitter would benefit from requiring every account(s) being tied back to an individual. If someone wants to run a bot account, great, but identify a person behind it.”

Some federal and state lawmakers have called for more stringent laws regulating social media companies, in part to combat the epidemic of fake accounts. Many fake accounts are deployed by Russia and other countries seeking to influence American politics, but others are used by marketing companies to influence consumers and even policymakers.

Marc Levine, a California state assemblyman from outside San Francisco, introduced legislation on Monday that would require social media companies doing business in California to link every account to a human being. The legislation would also require that social media companies allow only human account holders to place advertisements on their platforms.

“There are any number of interest groups looking to shape public opinion,” Mr. Levine said in an interview. “We’ve seen all of this exploited and millions of people manipulated.”
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Re: Assange Amazing Adventures of Captain Neo in Blonde Land

Postby Elvis » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:28 pm

I think Assange is playing Hannity for advantage. I think "best buds" is a stretch. I think Assange was playing Trump Jr..."I can trust *you*...send me your dad's tax return!"

And, I agree—are anyone's opinions here on these matters worth the anger, heel-digging, bashing and personal insults? In my opinion it's wasted energy.
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Re: Assange Amazing Adventures of Captain Neo in Blonde Land

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:52 pm

Elvis » Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:18 pm wrote:I can't wait to see the reaction when Assange dumps a lode of Trump docs.


That'll be the day. I'm surprised there hasn't been any leaks from the FBI. Or any of the plethora of other government organizations Trump has disparaged over the course of the past two years encompassing his campaign and residency in the White House.
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Re: Assange Amazing Adventures of Captain Neo in Blonde Land

Postby Jerky » Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:57 am

Show me where I'm "promoting the establishment idea that the White Helmets are a humanitarian organization", exactly. I certainly question the obvious Kremlin-produced, Assad-supported propaganda being spewed against them, but I've never PROMOTED them.

YOU are the one who has fallen hook, line and sinker for a line of tailor-cut bullshit, Sounder, NOT me.

Also, I sincerely feel that accusing someone of being an enthusiastic supporter of terror merits you being given at LEAST a week of cooling off time. I've certainly been given that for far, far less.

So what's the deal, Wombat? Are you going to be fair about this kind of thing or not?

Jerky

Sounder » 31 Jan 2018 11:15 wrote:SLAD, thanks for the quotes, if you could provide the link that would be great.

Sounder » Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:02 am wrote:
From your endless supply of overwrought emotional trigger material, yet you have no ability to address the question at hand, which is: How do people find such easy justification for the mass killing of fellow human beings? Puritans come in several flavors. Takfiri head choppers are one flavor, but really, anybody that lives their lives under the influence of an absolute imperative becomes a potential head-chopper.

Interesting, that you do that de rigor I hate America bit yet are quite happy to support American aims in taking out 'bad' men like Qaddafi, Hussein and Assad. Truth is, you do not like any country and are quite happy to see untold levels of suffering if it will satisfy your no-borders imperative.

Syria times one thousand if you get your way.

AD appears to be a spree-killing supporter.

People that cannot answer to criticism have no credibility



Both AD and Jerky are promoting the establishment idea that the White Helmets are a humanitarian organization over on the Global Research thread. Even though its members post on facebook about their takfiri loyalties and with their main guy as an Acadimi employee.

And again AD responds with a non relevant cut and paste rather than to answer the criticism of his apparent position in support of foreign mercenaries being used to destroy a country.

Oh, small quibble but being 'from' the west is not what makes you a supporter, it's being a consumer of western mainstream newsfeed that makes one a supporter.

If you believe the White Helmets are a force for 'good' you are probably letting establishment produced cognitive dissonance mess you up.
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Re: Assange Amazing Adventures of Captain Neo in Blonde Land

Postby Rory » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:14 am

Jerky » Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:57 am wrote:
YOU are the one who has fallen hook, line and sinker for a line of tailor-cut bullshit, Sounder, NOT me.

Also, I sincerely feel that accusing someone of being an enthusiastic supporter of terror merits you being given at LEAST a week of cooling off time. I've certainly been given that for far, far less.

So what's the deal, Wombat? Are you going to be fair about this kind of thing or not?

Jerky



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