TRUMP is seriously dangerous

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You could start an Obama is dangerous thread

Are you declaring passive aggressive war on me? Because I'll win, you know. I read Sun Tzu.

I'm Irish

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American Gothic... Too bad this is a Trump thread. We could have an interesting conversation. No place for anything interesting in a Trump thread.

This post will self-destruct in 20 minutes.

My beliefs do that. They're made of plastique.

It is my belief that a sudden, jarring juxtaposition of contexts can provide fresh perspective from unexpected angles of thought, adding to the topic in discussion.

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[seemslikeadream]

whats not interesting about torture and war criminals

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I'm Irish

Now you're just trying to throw me off my game. A devious strategy, yet effective. Alright, I see how it's going to be. en garde!

whats not interesting about torture and war criminals

I don't know, nothing's coming to me.

I didn't get to read your last post before it self-destructed, minime. I was off reading about Irish physicists, and how the clocks in Ireland never agree with each other.

[82_28]

Shall we keep this to the clear and very present danger of TRUMP and not focus on snide personal cheesy repartees?

Did anyone see dump "inspect" his wall prototypes like an idiot dictator yesterday? Good! That's the topic.

[seemslikeadream]

your wish is my command

don't have to ask me twice

how trump is seriously dangerous....let me count the ways

7 trump officials resigned yesterday


The Druid priests visit Douchehenge





Gowdy breaks from GOP committee, says Russia worked to undermine Clinton



The bank was the Russian state bank, Sberbank. They are sanctioned by the US. It was related to Trump Tower Moscow. Sberbank gave the Moscow developer a 10.6 billion ruble line of credit 20 days after Trump signed the letter of intent.

Exclusive: Developer Of Trump Tower Moscow Received Loan From Sanctioned Sberbank Three Weeks After Signing Letter Of Intent

IC Expert Investment Company Owners Include Three Mystery LLCs Located In Cyprus And The Marshall Islands; Chairman Was Charged With Negligent Homicide In 2011.

Scott StedmanDec 1, 2017

The developer of Trump Tower Moscow received a non-revolving line of credit from the U.S. sanctioned Sberbank three weeks after signing a Letter of Intent (LOI) with Trump Acquisitions LLC. A letter of intent describes the details of a real estate transaction before it is finalized. The agreement was signed by Donald Trump on October 28th, 2015, four months into his presidential run.

A non-revolving credit line is typically in the form of an installment loan, which is given in a lump sum and then paid back over regular installments with interest assessed. This means that money was being borrowed by IC Expert from the state-owned Sberbank. Previously, Trump Organization Lawyer Michael Cohen claimed that the deal fell through in January 2016, after he lost confidence that the firm could secure financing.

An analysis of banking, financial, and tax records shows that IC Expert received a non-revolving line of credit from Sberbank on November 18th, 2015. Exact terms of the line of credit are unknown; However, the company pledged 100% of its equity to secure the credit line, indicating a level of significance.

The records have also uncovered the shadowy owners behind IC Expert — a complex web of both Russian and offshore shell companies whose frequent changes of ownership, directors, company names and addresses effectively obfuscates their financial dealings. The company’s current ownership is registered to three LLCs, with 85% of the ownership shared between two offshore companies located in Cyprus and Marshall Islands.

The shareholders in the company as of 2015 included Kolinsen Trading Limited, a Cyprus-based LLC with 60% share in IC Expert, Trianguli Limited, a Marshall Islands LLC with 25% share, and “EKOPRESTIZH”, a Russian LLC with 15% share.





In a written statement released in September by Trump’s lawyer Michael Cohen he claimed that, “In late January 2016, I abandoned the Moscow proposal because I lost confidence that the prospective licensee would be able to obtain the real estate, financing and government approvals necessary to bring the proposal to fruition.”
With these new revelations, Mr. Cohen’s statement appears misleading. Sberbank is Russia’s largest state-owned bank. A pledge of 100% of the company equity for the line of credit suggests that not only was IC Expert well on its way to obtaining the financing needed for site selection, regulatory work, etc., but it also had a degree of confidence from Putin’s government.
In 2014, after the annexation of Crimea, the US and EU imposed sanctions on many Russian institutions including Sberbank. These sanctions barred companies from dealing in any debt Sberbank issued of longer than 30 days maturity.
Andrey Rozov, the IC Expert Chairman and Trump LOI signatory, founded the company in 2005. The company’s first project was awarded in 2011 for a residential development project called Novokosino-2 in the city of Reutov, a suburb of Moscow. Sberbank appears to have provided the initial financing for the project, as well.
That same year, Rozov was involved in a fatal boating accident in the harbor of Crocus City. Rozov was charged with negligent homicide, yet the case stalled and it is unclear what became of the charges.
By the end of 2014, IC Expert had become mired in scandal over its failure to construct thousands of apartment units paid for by home buyers. The Novokosino project has required ongoing intervention by local and regional government officials to address the growing protests of co-investors. Even under this supposed government supervision, many of the buildings — first promised in July 2015 and then December 2015 — still remain under construction.

Yet in 2015, Rozov’s scandal-plagued IC Expert was looking to expand into the luxury skyscrapers sector in Moscow City. The licensing deal with Trump was predicated on the firm’s ability to secure financing, land, and government permission. It included an initial $4 million dollar ‘upfront’ payment to ‘Trump Acquisition LLC and/or one or more of its affiliates’. It is unclear whether such a payment was ever made.
The project was deemed so “important” to Cohen that in January 2016, he reached out to Putin’s spokesperson Peskov for help. In that email, Cohen wrote, “without getting into lengthy specifics, the communication between our two sides has stalled.”
Trump’s lawyer, Marc Kasowitz, is the lead defense counsel for Sberbank in a Manhattan case. During Trump’s trip to Moscow in 2013, he met with the Sberbank CEO Herman Gref. “There was a good feeling from the meeting,” Gref said in an interview. “He’s a sensible person, very lively in his responses, with a positive energy and a good attitude toward Russia.”
The deal signed by Trump and his lawyer Michael Cohen offers no signs that they properly vetted IC Experts. Neither mystery offshore owners nor a homicide appears to have deterred them from signing the Letter of Intent. Doing business deals with shady characters in foreign countries open political candidates up to potentially being compromised. This material can be held against the political figure in order to ensure loyalty.
Kasowitz and Cohen did not return requests for comment.
https://medium.com/@ScottMStedman/exclu ... 582c22eb72

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Shall we keep this to the clear and very present danger of TRUMP and not focus on snide personal cheesy repartees?

Did anyone see dump "inspect" his wall prototypes like an idiot dictator yesterday? Good! That's the topic.

I see. 'Snide personal cheesy repartees' is what the time I spent posting here last night amounts to. How nice.

I mean, it isn't the insult that bugs me. I'm a big boy, I can take insults. Sometimes I even wear them as badges. And I know my posts aren't all words of supergenius and bestselling poetry.

But I'm not a robot, nor do I desire to be one, sorry.

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it's called derailing .....that's the sin...bless me father for I have sinned .......now back to the SUBJECT of the thread

TRUMP is seriously dangerous

.....we do try and stay on subject here most of the time ...hence naming threads..it helps to keep in focus


"the Committee has learned... candidate Trump’s private business was actively negotiating a business deal in Moscow with a sanctioned Russian bank during the election period"

Document: House Intelligence Committee Minority Russia Investigation Status Report

By Matthew Kahn Tuesday, March 13, 2018, 6:28 PM

The minority staff of the House intelligence committee released the following report on Tuesday evening. On Monday, the committee's majority announced that it had concluded its inquiry into possible Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S. election.

https://lawfareblog.com/document-house- ... tus-report

CONWAY: I violated the Hatch Act!
TRUMP: That’s cool!
CARSON: I ordered a $30,000 table.
TRUMP: Nice!
SHULKIN: I got a free vacay to Wimbledon!
TRUMP: Sounds fun!
ZINKE: I paid $139K for a door.
TRUMP: Lol, you rascal!
TILLERSON: I think Russia killed-
TRUMP: YOU’RE FIRED!

BREAKING: U.S. Attorney: 3 men arrested on gun charges suspected in bombing of Minnesota mosque.
An Illinois contractor bidding to build President Donald Trump’s wall on the Mexican border was among three men arrested Tuesday in connection with the bombing of a mosque in Minnesota and the attempted bombing of a women’s health clinic in Illinois.

OLITICS 03/13/2018 07:25 pm ET

Mosque Terror Attack Suspect Put In Detailed Bid To Build Trump A ‘Great’ Border Wall
The former sheriff’s deputy submitted an extensive proposal that would make the border wall a recreational attraction.
By Christopher Mathias and Ryan J. Reilly

MICHAEL HARI MUGSHOT VIA THE NEWS GAZETTE
Michael Hari in a 2017 police mugshot.
An Illinois contractor bidding to build President Donald Trump’s wall on the Mexican border was among three men arrested Tuesday in connection with the bombing of a mosque in Minnesota and the attempted bombing of a women’s health clinic in Illinois.

Michael B. Hari, 47, was arrested and charged Tuesday in federal court in lllinois with arson and possession of machine guns.

According to the complaint, Hari and two accomplices — 29-year-old Michael McWhorter and 22-year-old Joe Morris — were responsible for the bombing of a mosque in Bloomington, Minnesota, on Aug. 5, 2017, and the attempted bombing of the Women’s Health Practice in Champaign, Illinois, on Nov. 7. All three are now facing federal arson charges.

Confidential informants told the FBI that Hari said he would pay McWhorter and Morris $18,000 for their participation in the mosque bombing, according to the FBI affidavit. All three men allegedly drove up to Minnesota in a rented truck for the attack.

Five parishioners were inside the mosque when it was bombed. No one was hurt. The attack, occurring at a time of rising anti-Muslim hate, garnered national headlines, especially after Trump’s apparent refusal to denounce it. (Trump’s then-adviser Sebastian Gorka defended the silence on the explosion, stating it might’ve been “faked by the left.”)

The affidavit states that McWhorter later confessed to the FBI that he, Hari and Morris bombed the mosque to “scare [Muslims] out of the country” because they think they push their beliefs on non-Muslims. McWhorter said the bombing was mostly to say, “Hey, you’re not welcome here, get the fuck out.”

The bomb thrown into the women’s health clinic in Illinois did not detonate. The criminal complaint notes that the clinic provided abortions.

Hari is a former sheriff’s deputy who lives in Charence, Illinois, where he ran Crisis Resolution Security Services Inc., which had put in a bid for Trump’s border wall.

In a YouTube video promoting the proposal, a narrator says the wall would be “culturally significant, a powerful architectural statement of the determination of the American people to defend their nation and its Anglo-Saxon heritage, western culture, and English language” and would defend “our way of life from other people who have different value systems.”

“Build that wall. Make America great again,” the narrator states.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozsG3A04z_U
His border wall proposal called for placing a pedestrian roadway on top of the wall in an effort to make it a tourist attraction, like the Great Wall of China. They called it the Great Western International Border Wall.


“People can go up there, walk it or bicycle it,” Hari told the Chicago Tribune last year. “We’re probably the only ones who have submitted a proposal making it recreational.”

The website of Hari’s company warned of the threat of Muslims in America. “Since the 9/11 attacks, 1.6 million Muslims have been admitted to the United States, 26% of Muslims in the US are homegrown converts, and 80% of Muslim prison inmates converted in prison,” the website claimed. “While many Muslims are peaceful people, only a small percentage of troublemakers will result in many incidents with a growing population of about 2.5 million Muslims total.” It linked to the conspiracy website formerly known as World Net Daily.


MICHAEL HARI
Michael Hari’s company submitted a proposal to build Trump’s border wall.
The company, which claims to sell evacuation services at a cost of $3,995 for a 10-year period, also names riots and protests on its page about threats, including unrest in Berkeley, California, when right-wing activist Milo Yiannopoulos was due to speak and the anti-Trump protests leading up to his inauguration.

Madihha Ahussain, special counsel for anti-Muslim bigotry at Muslim Advocates, said the group could not ignore the context surrounding the attack.

“Anti-Muslim rhetoric from the administration and public officials has led to an unprecedented spike in hate violence against Muslims and mosque attacks, just like this one,” he said. “When the administration fails to swiftly condemn the bombing of a house of worship and instead makes excuses for the perpetrators, it sends a clear and unmistakable statement to the nation that these bombers ― whoever they are ― have a friend in the White House.”

Hari has an extensive criminal record. He was found guilty of child abduction in 2006 after he took his daughters to Central America because he worried he’d lose custody. He was tracked down by an investigator for the “Dr. Phil” show and was later sentenced to 30 months of probation.

On Tuesday, a federal judge assigned Hari a federal public defender and ordered him detained.

This article has been updated with comment from Madihha Ahussain.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tr ... a689cd3f8b

MICHAEL HARI MUGSHOT VIA THE NEWS GAZETTE
Michael Hari in a 2017 police mugshot.

We need to find out which Trump rally they were radicalized at.


Mueller witness Papadopoulos claims Jeff Sessions was a Trump co-conspirator on Russia beginning in March 2016 at the latest. He knew Trump sought to meet Putin secretly.

Trump enters a manic phase, discovers presidential power: That’s not good

Trump ramps up the ugliness with the promotion of zealot Mike Pompeo and torturer Gina Haspel. What’s next?

President Trump had quite a day on Tuesday. He fired Secretary of State Rex Tillerson in crude and cowardly fashion, announced that he is moving the unqualified CIA director, Mike Pompeo, over to the ghostly halls of the nearly empty State Department to do a job for which he also has no experience. Then he nominated Gina Haspel, one of the most notorious CIA officers in American history, a woman best known for enthusiastically torturing terrorist suspects and then destroying all the evidence of doing so, to run the agency.

That was just the morning's work. By noon it was reported that his closest personal assistant, the "body man" John McEntee, had been fired and escorted off the White House grounds for what were later described as serious financial misdeeds discovered by the Department of Homeland Security. Then the president took off for the California-Mexico border, where he uttered some gibberish about "the wall" needing to be transparent, after which he addressed some service members and announced his latest great idea:

"My new national strategy for space recognizes that space is a war fighting domain just like the land, air and sea," Trump said. He also entertains the idea of adding a new military branch, calling it the "Space Force." https://t.co/IECzRamgz4 pic.twitter.com/bUlC1zaOFS

— CBS News (@CBSNews) March 13, 2018

Trump: "Very soon we're going to Mars. You wouldn't be going to Mars if my opponent won."

— Ken Thomas (@KThomasDC) March 13, 2018
https://www.salon.com/2018/03/14/trump- ... -not-good/

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"now back to the SUBJECT of the thread: TRUMP is seriously dangerous"

It's about time. How can we come to an informed opinion about Donald Trump if we don't have enough information? And more importantly, how can we know what it is we're going to do about it? After all, if we don't actually do something about it, we're just wasting our time. Wasting everyone's time.

If I thought I could find anything of import, I would investigate the Tesla connection. SLAD, if you run across anything valuable or interesting in that area, let me know.

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but here you are admittedly wasting your time? That's a personal decision min...can't help you with that

Police: White Nationalist’s Battery Arrest Follows Affair With Spox’s Wife

Allegra Kirkland
on March 5, 2018 in East Lansing, Michigan.
Scott Olson/Getty Images North America

The wife of Matthew Heimbach, who leads the neo-Nazi Traditionalist Worker Party, told police that during a domestic altercation, her husband kicked a wall, grabbed her face, and threw her violently on a bed, according to a police report obtained by TPM. The incident occurred in the presence of the couple’s two young sons.

As TPM reported, Heimbach, 26, was arrested early Tuesday morning and charged with one felony count of domestic battery in the presence of a child under 16, and one misdemeanor count of battery.

The arrest followed a bizarre sequence of events stemming from an extramarital affair Heimbach was conducting with his wife’s step-mother-in-law, according to the police report.

The white nationalist leader is married to the step-daughter of Matt Parrott, the Traditionalist Worker Party’s chief spokesman. Per the police report, Heimbach attacked both Parrott and his own wife, Brooke Heimbach, after the pair confronted Matthew Heimbach about an affair he was carrying out with Matt Parrott’s wife, Jessica.

The group all live in the same trailer park compound in rural Paoli, Indiana, where the Traditionalist Worker Party is based. In statements to the police, all four listed their professions as “white nationalists.”

Per the report, Brooke Heimbach and Matt Parrott tried to set Matthew Heimbach up to see if he would continue the affair after agreeing to call it quits. On Tuesday, they spied on him and Jessica Parrott through the window of the Parrotts’ trailer.

Matt Parrott and Matthew Heimbach got into a physical confrontation, and Matt Parrott later told the police that Matthew Heimbach grabbed him and “choked him out,” leaving him briefly unconscious.

Shortly after police arrived on the scene, the officer heard Matthew Heimbach arguing with his wife and “scuffling.” Brooke Heimbach told the police that her husband kicked the wall, grabbed her face, and “threw me with the hand on my face onto the bed” — a violent exchange she said she recorded on her cell phone. The couple’s two young sons were present for the altercation.

Matthew Heimbach was released from Orange County jail Tuesday on $1,000 bond, according to court records.

This complicated situation leaves the future of the Traditionalist Worker Party, one of the most outspoken groups in the modern white nationalist movement, uncertain. Matt Parrott announced last week that he is resigning his post and leaving the group.

Matthew Heimbach is already on probation for a previous violent incident. Last year he pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct for shoving a young black protester at a Trump campaign rally in Louisville, Kentucky, agreeing to pay a $145 fine, take anger management classes, and stay out of trouble with the law for two years.

Read the full police report below.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker ... ery-affair

WaPo: Pruitt Soundproof Phone Booth Cost Closer To $43,000 To Install

Caitlin MacNeal
on November 17, 2017 in Washington, DC.
Alex Wong/Getty Images North America

The $25,000 private phone booth Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Scott Pruitt had built in his office actually cost $43,000 including costs to install the structure, the Washington Post reported Wednesday morning.

The booth itself cost $24,570, but the EPA paid more than $18,000 for the booth’s installation, which included removing closed-circuit television equipment, pouring concrete, adjusting a ceiling, and painting.

EPA spokesman Jahan Wilcox defended the phone booth to the Washington Post on Tuesday when asked about the new estimate of costs.

“In September of 2017 we thoroughly discussed why this secure communications line was needed for the Administrator of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency,” Wilcox said.

The Post first reported on the booth back in September. A spokesperson said at the time that the booth would be a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF), which is used to access classified materials.

Read the Washington Post’s full report here.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ ... ooth-43000

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but here you are admittedly wasting your time? That's a personal decision min...can't help you with that

I'm not wasting my time if I'm actually doing something about it.

Anyway, the Tesla connection...

[seemslikeadream]

anyway stop derailing this thread please?

82_28 asked nicely

Shall we keep this to the clear and very present danger of TRUMP and not focus on snide personal cheesy repartees?

Did anyone see dump "inspect" his wall prototypes like an idiot dictator yesterday? Good! That's the topic.

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anyway stop derailing this thread please?

Referring to the Trump/Tesla connection is derailing the thread?

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No, I get it. I don't agree, is all.

I was not aware that Donald visited the wall. This is the only social circle I run in at the moment where I would see something about that. It reminds me of a documentary I saw recently, called "Borders" with Robert Anton Wilson, Margaret Randell the poet, Brian Freemantle the journalist, and Michio Kaku before his flowing mane turned silver. Steve Buscemi is in it, too. There's a bunch of footage of Texas Rangers down at the border. But I won't post a link to it here. I probably shouldn't even be mentioning it.

And that reminds me of another video I saw recently, a discussion with Robert Anton Wilson and Karl Hess at the Libertarian Party's Nominating Convention in 1987. They smoke joints and take random topics from the audience. Just incredible, incredible. But I definitely won't post that here. This kind of cockney slang-like thinking is unappreciated and discouraged on RI. Maybe if I made my leaps of thought rhyme.