Spook Infiltration of Discussion Boards as RI Subject

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Re: Spook Infiltration of Discussion Boards as RI Subject

Postby Luther Blissett » Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:02 pm

Oh it’s that again? Neat.

Well, anyway, I still use this place as a resource and rely somewhat on past posters’ penchants for posting materials in full. It’s happened more than once where searching niche subjects externally points me back to this place anyway because the original contents have been scrubbed and this is literally the sole repository online of the original text.

Even if you really need primary sources — this place as a searchable repository is super valuable as a jumping off point.
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Re: Spook Infiltration of Discussion Boards as RI Subject

Postby dada » Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:25 pm

Yes, AD, I have noticed you are doing this. I apologize for flying off the handle this morning. Woke up on the wrong side of the bed, I guess.

slad, I understand you feel like a victim. I'm sorry I don't know what I can say to change that.

Luther Blissett wrote:I still use this place as a resource and rely somewhat on past posters’ penchants for posting materials in full. It’s happened more than once where searching niche subjects externally points me back to this place anyway because the original contents have been scrubbed and this is literally the sole repository online of the original text.


Yes but the data dump...
Both his words and manner of speech seemed at first totally unfamiliar to me, and yet somehow they stirred memories - as an actor might be stirred by the forgotten lines of some role he had played far away and long ago.
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Re: Spook Infiltration of Discussion Boards as RI Subject

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:33 pm

@ dada

Understand this......I do not feel like a victim at all...I just posted reality.....it was your post that made you look like a victim by misrepresenting what happened :fingerwag:

sorry for you that you can not take a one time multi-member critique of your postings in the Image thread without feeling so put upon


all I ever did was treat you with respect and all I got in return was the accusation of enjoying animal torture by you :roll:


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what a couple of anti c/p members here do not understand

their point of view is not shared by everyone here .....there are just as many if not more members here who do not mind c/p at all......that c/p does not bother them...or they find it helpful

i.e. Luther Blissett, Asta, peartreed, American Dream, SLaD ...I won't speak for other members that I know of but do not feel I have their permission to do so

off the top of my head....right there are more members that either don't mind or find it useful

just because the anti crowd loudly continually relentlessly complain about about it does not make their view prevalent...just looks that way because they keep repeating their pov over and over and over again about something that is NOT against the rules that Jeff decided to incorporate here

the anti crew keep breaking the rules to complain about members that are following the rules

anyway mob rule was never a thing here .....just the rules set by Jeff 14 years ago

Jeff never told me to not copy and paste here or take it to the Data Dump

Jeff never called my posts vulgar thuggery


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because the original contents have been scrubbed and this is literally the sole repository online of the original text.


and thanks to Joan a great deal of RI content is now at Internet Archive....that is what is important to me.......preservation
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Re: Spook Infiltration of Discussion Boards as RI Subject

Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Mar 26, 2018 2:31 pm

(Jack`s post here: viewtopic.php?p=654196#p654196)

JackRiddler wrote:As for your obvious idea, (3) a big maybe, because that's a lot of fucking effort for what you're thinking, especially at this late stage of RI traffic history. (Small and stable.)


It`s not a lot of effort at all, Jack. It`s ten minutes` work a day, maximum. What is the total official US spook budget (excluding the gigantic black budget)? Last time I checked, it was exactly 863 gazillion dollars yearly. That`s enough money to pay many thousands of employees a sizable salary to perform simple mechanical repetitive tasks on the internet for around ten minutes a day.

The effort ain't bot action, someone's curating it.


No contradiction. Could very easily be bot action, at least 90% of it. Just program that bot to suck up and spit out selected screeds each day from approved pseudleft sources such as, say, Proyect, Denham, "Oakland Socialist", "kerspledebed", the Antideutschen, The Guardian and the brainWashington Post. Just program in the keywords and let the bot loose. Occasionally the curator(s) would need to step in and speak in (or rather, simulate) the voice of an actual, sincere, honest human being. This voice would then tend to sound weirdly empty and vacuous -- wooden, mechanical, inarticulate, evasive, dishonest and deeply unpersuasive --, for the simple reason that it would be the voice of a spook curator. It would tend to speak only very briefly. It would repeat hackneyed phrases. It would sound resentful at being forced to speak in a human voice at all. It would complain of being bullied.

These are all testable hypotheses, and anyone can test them very easily..

Also, shows little adaptive behavior about the unpopularity.


Indeed. It doesn`t need to care about its unpopularity. On the contrary: the more unpopular the better. If it`s managed to establish itself on a Discussion Board as The Voice of The Left™, then its growing unpopularity constitutes a double whammy for the spook operators. The (pseudleft, cryptofascist. warmongering) spook propaganda gets catapulted incessantly, AND, simultaneously, The Voice of The Left™ gets discredited as boring, stupid, cowardly, dishonest, evasive, unattractive, and deeply annoying. Win-win.

Seems to me like the obvious major copypasta campaigns here are prodigious products of personal commitment to Being Right on the Internet.


And spooks arent committed to that? Of course they are. Its their job, after all. Again: no contradiction, on the contrary.

Which is still to say: I don't and can't know, it wouldn't be less annoying either way,


It`s deeply annoying either way, I agree. Cui bono?

it wouldn't be less ineffective anyway.


It`s very far from ineffective, and you`ve just admitted that it isn`t. To annoy people is to have a very significant effect on them. If the spook infiltrator carries on being annoying enough for long enough, he can succeed in driving people away from the board and make that board completely unusable. Board dead, Job done. Then the spook operator can collect his hard-earned bonus and move on to the next task.

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On a completely unrelated note: I glanced in here, out of nostalgia, one evening about five weeks ago, and there were only two poster-names visible on the first seventeen topics on the front page of this former Discussion Board. Yes, I counted. (First post by/last post by). I don`t need to tell you what those two names were. Only one of them is, in my opinion, the label of a spook. Anway, there he was, completely unworried by any question of popularity or effectiveness, churning away incessantly in the dark, in the icy vacuum, like one of those.incomprehensible alien machines in one of those tales by Stanislaw Lem. Still posting away, still completely unconcerned with persuading anyone of anything at all. It was eerie, I tell you.

a nihgt of terer. fare done gime a turn it did.

I had entered a haunted house. The alleged janitor -- "The Last Moderator", as he called himself elsewhere -- had long since departed, silently. That`s how Discussion Boards get killed, or at least zombified.
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Re: Spook Infiltration of Discussion Boards as RI Subject

Postby dada » Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:21 pm

Stop being an asshole, slad. Many people liked my terrible comics. It was a small but vocal minority that got so upset. I decided to be the bigger person, to do my part in maintaining whatever harmony there is on the board. But you didn't appreciate it, and now you're off in lala land about it.

So you know what,, I think I'll now start posting them again, just because of your bad attitude.

Funny thing, this post was going to say: "In hindsight, I think saying 'you feel victimized' was a poor choice of words. Victim is too negative a term. I should have said 'sorry for attacking you, or putting you on the defensive, or making you feel treated unfairly. Again, I apologize - to both of you - for that post. There's no excuse for it, I know better than to post before coffee and a cigarette."

But then I thought better of it after reading your response.
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Re: Spook Infiltration of Discussion Boards as RI Subject

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:44 pm

:roll:

does this sound like SLaD is being an asshole... bad attitude?

what is wrong with you ..do you not like the truth of what happened?

god it happened 1 1/2 years ago ...let it go

nobody has ganged up on you since then

why don't you just start a thread about your drawings?

you could do that...you know? nobody's stopping you

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Sent: Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:26 am

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To: dada

I was wondering if you would consider the spirit of the image thread that has been going on for 10 years now...it is really a place were people come together forget their differences and conflicts and just post really interesting images with no words or captions ...I messed up one time in all these years and brought a personal grudge into the thread and I have regretted it ever since and I wish I could edit it out but it is too late....I hope you will receive this suggestion in the spirit it is given ...we just need a safe place here to come together... enjoy ...have a break.....that is what that thread is about ...could you consider helping me out with this? I would appreciate it if you could help continue the safe place as it was intended.

:hug1:
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Re: Spook Infiltration of Discussion Boards as RI Subject

Postby dada » Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:52 pm

Whatever, slad. Hope you enjoyed your "bad photoshop comic-free" image thread, while it lasted.

I have nothing else to say to you at this point in time. Trust that I'll be lobbying 82 and srp by private message to implement some sort of limitation to the copying and pasting in general discussion.
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Re: Spook Infiltration of Discussion Boards as RI Subject

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:53 pm

go ahead.....be my guest

you are the only person I know that could turn a friendly pm into some kind of hit piece and then use that as an excuse to change the rules of this board just because you don't like them.
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Re: Spook Infiltration of Discussion Boards as RI Subject

Postby peartreed » Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:57 pm

From my perspective the so-called “copy/pasta” posts and posters are not the problem. Nor are they “spooks” by any stretch of the imagination. They are researchers dedicated to sharing ongoing news about their serious concerns. Their input is valued as a positive contribution to following an important issue of shared interest. For newshounds like myself, they make the board a current and vital resource of information.

Using 82_28’s analogy of RI as a bar, the spook is more like a loud drunk in the corner imbibing courage to complain to the world.

My projected vision of the kind of spook that haunts this board is the lonely and frustrated contrarian, likely living in a parent’s basement as a fortress against establishment expectations, peer pressure, and the more enlightened, civil, social customs. Most particularly, this cellar dweller has adopted unpopular politics just to go against the mainstream.

This social misfit probably has a corresponding personal identification with non-achievement, nonconformity and a self-styled rebellion against any society-accepted standard of success. The political preferences would also be oppositional and anti-establishment. Identifying with outsiders also often involves aligning with rejected fringe beliefs. But, most often, the spook is haunted by empty hope for personal fulfillment.

The accumulated anger of underperforming manifests as a raised middle finger against mostly imagined enemies, fantasized foils and the many much brighter minds. It takes the form of intentional denial, deconstruction and destruction.

As a substitute for success in the real world, the subterranean troll finds surcease as a snake in the grass, sniping, snarking and dissing with derisive denigration any position, post or person that is more popular, more positive or more appealing to productive explorations of controversial issues. The nihilist feeds and needs negativity. Taking perverse pleasure in unpleasantness is a personal pathology.

This board seems to have its share of such angry spooks, poised to pounce on any position or person with more popular support.

Can you spell, “antidisestablishmentarianism”? Is that what this is? No. I checked. That means the doctrine opposed to removing The Church of England’s official religion status. So, “disestablishmentarianism” is more likely the anti-status quo.
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Re: Spook Infiltration of Discussion Boards as RI Subject

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:59 pm

:)
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Re: Spook Infiltration of Discussion Boards as RI Subject

Postby DrEvil » Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:04 pm

For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure someone here (can't remember who, was a long time ago) knew AD in real life and vouched for him being an actual, non-spook human.
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Re: Spook Infiltration of Discussion Boards as RI Subject

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:06 pm

Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:46 pm

Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:05 pm


it took 19 minutes for this OP to be posted because the other one was locked and someone wanted to continue the discussion slurs after he was told to stop it

there is no denying who this thread is about and it should be locked
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Re: Spook Infiltration of Discussion Boards as RI Subject

Postby DrEvil » Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:12 pm

For some reason I just thought of this video. No idea why.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im7Ts17CPjA
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Re: Spook Infiltration of Discussion Boards as RI Subject

Postby Iamwhomiam » Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:26 pm

As Luther has pointed out, the main purpose for copying and pasting full article rather than excerpts is "because the original contents have been scrubbed and this is literally the sole repository online of the original text."

I ask only for all posting entire cut and paste articles to please provide a prelude, an introduction to the article, perhaps explaining why it interests them enough to share it with you, or better yet, why you should be interested in reading it.

Sure, scrolling through long articles you may not be interested in reading or already had read, can be a pain, and as long as it's not a problem to our bandwidth provider, it's not my problem.

Frankly, these are extraordinary times filled with extraordinary events and weird ass personalities. Someone will someday be deeply appreciative these articles had been archived here.

As to the thread topic: Hahaha! Surely, you think too highly of yourself!
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Re: Spook Infiltration of Discussion Boards as RI Subject

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:35 pm

I probably/surely have c/p in other members threads and if I had I'm sorry and won't do it again....as far as my own threads the purpose is obvious and I will continue.....there is no reason why someone that doesn't want to read c/p has to click on one of my threads they know what they are getting ...no one is forcing them to click...scroll or read anything

is this a c/p complaint thread ...I thought the OP was about something completely different
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